YTSEJAM Digest 5302

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Wolverine; Birch HELL show] Opeth, pls read ;)
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
      2) Bass and Dt
     by Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>
      3) Re: names
     by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5300
     by "Nick Mansperger" <nmansper@wam.umd.edu>
      5) Re: JPM
     by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      6) Jordan Rudess/Keyboards
     by matt guillory <dali@best.com>
      7) Re: Back in NYC
     by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      8) mpls dt show
     by "segue mike" <jp62693@hotmail.com>
      9) SFAM Lyrics
     by Joe Latuscha <Joseph.Latuscha@maine.edu>
     10) TEXAS LOVES DREAM THEATER FOREVER
     by Compadre32@aol.com
     11) Cleveland show info
     by NShh641@aol.com
     12) food for thought...
     by "Sarah Spangler" <sarpen@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
     13) Elvin Jones
     by "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu>
     14) dregs album
     by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
     15) Re: names
     by "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
     16) YTSEJAM digest 5300
     by BChochola@aol.com
     17) Re: names
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
     18) Re: names
     by "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
     19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5300
     by dav w <dav_metropolis@yahoo.com>
     20) The Hostess Conspiracy. ***SLC show highlights***
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     21) some more stuff on eBay
     by Drew Schinzel <schi2299@fredonia.edu>
     22) Oh, yah.
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     23) New Band on the Prog Scene: Greyhaven
     by "Jon Dery" <shoefoot@hotmail.com>
     24) Derek and Yngwie do Ozzy
     by Fett2002@aol.com
     25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5301
     by "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
     26) MP at Sam Ash
     by WoodyTJ34@aol.com
     27) Styx
     by "Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
     28) Re: Styx
     by "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>

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    Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:49:08 -0500
    From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Wolverine; Birch HELL show] Opeth, pls read ;)
    Message-ID: <38A1FCF3.DEE6A778@yunque.net>

    Janne Jokitalo wrote:

    >
    > Okay so you're going to get one new opinion on them soon, I'm a member of
    > Finnish Music Club and in their latest magazine there was a small review of
    > them, saying with their latest album they have moved more into the proggier
    > sound, still maintaining that wonderful melodicality (can you actually say that
    > ??)

     Yeah thats correct.. Still life is "proggier" if theres such a term. And yes there
    is more and more of their wonderful melodicness? heh

    > I guess that growling vocals are mainly the reason for me to stay clear of some
    > bands, but I'm going to try hard with this one, since so many people now have
    > recommended them. I'll let you know how I managed.
    >
    > - Jaska
    >

     Remember if at first you dont succeed, listen many many times..trying to ignore
    the vocals if needed...but in the end they will haunt you and you will not be able
    to live without them :)

    --
    

    Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back. Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind. Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org

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    Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:54:31 -0600 From: Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bass and Dt Message-ID: <B4C74C47.6AE7%srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>

    >> What would be the best way to get the members of Dt to sign my bass? > > Disguise it as a pair of breasts.

    Well, that might work, but it would make it damn difficult to play anything and my girldfriend might try to "smack the bitch up" ;-)

    Anyway, it's good to see it's the same old crotchedy 'jam 8-)

    Seriously though, any ideas? I don't think my gf likes DT enough to bare her breasts for them just to get them to raise the value of my wiggle-stick with a felt pen (read into that what you will)

    Seth

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:53:58 -0500 From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: names Message-ID: <C51DA021F2FD3D11DACD000A9C4B95C0@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    >>Yeah ive noticed most good musicians have cool names :) >>off the top of my head : >>Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, of course the DT members, John Patitucci (sp?) >>Chick Corea (hows that for a pimpin' name!) , Mark Zonder, theres tons of >>cool europeans too... Mikael Akerfeldt (or god) , Dan Swano..Hell ..all the >>guy's names in Meshuggah .. HEH

    Lets not forget the Scandinavian musicians that happen to have PARTICULARLY cool names. Yngwie Malmsteen, Timo Tolkki, Jens Johansson...and yes the guys in Meshuggah too :-)

    Matt ============================= Now you've got your voice Your own speech Don't wait 'till Someone else agrees -Rafael Bittencourt, Angra ============================= Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:03:09 -0500 From: "Nick Mansperger" <nmansper@wam.umd.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5300 Message-ID: <001701bf7351$d5e0fbe0$ffcc0281@umd.edu>

    please delete my address from this e-mail list: nmansper@wam.umd.edu

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:02:58 -0500 From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: JPM Message-ID: <591DA021F2FD3D11DACD000A9C4B95C0@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    I just played a jpm ibanez with the matte camo finish, and it sounded great! But the fucking neck is like a classical and the damn frets are soo big! Are John Petrucci's hands huge? I loved the sound soo much, i considered purchasing it because of Petruccis playing style, and they way he has influenced me, but damn... that neck has a fat width......

    Actually, the neck on the JPM has a thinner width (42MM) than most Ibanez necks, such as the Wizard or Jem necks (which have a 43MM width). Also big frets make it easier to get a better control of the string and, together with low action, make it easier to play legato type passages.

    Matt ============================= Now you've got your voice Your own speech Don't wait 'till Someone else agrees -Rafael Bittencourt, Angra ============================= Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com

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    Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:08:22 -0800 From: matt guillory <dali@best.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jordan Rudess/Keyboards Message-ID: <38A1F366.3B588DB5@best.com>

    Yo,

    I don't know if this has been discussed or not, so I thought I'd mention it. If you dig Jordan Rudess and neoclassical instrumental music, you might want to check out Vinnie Moore's Time Odyssey. Time Odyssey was recorded about 10 years ago, but Jordan does some great stuff on this CD. The CD also includes (the highlight for me) some cool trade-off solo's between Jordan and Vinnie.

    For those that enjoy keyboard-dominated music, I'd recommend Jordan's solo CD "Listen." I remember picking it up a few years ago, long before he joined DT. I couldn't take it out of my player for a while. Jordan shows not only how strong his chops are, but also.. and more importantly, that he a great writer.

    Later,

    -Matt

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:06:14 -0500 From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Back in NYC Message-ID: <6A1DA021F2FD3D11DACD000A9C4B95C0@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    Hey Digital Man -

    I'll be attending the NYC show, along with 4 recent DT converts from my school. We're planning on getting there 2 hours early, so we can get REALLY close to the stage :). E-mail me if you're interested on meeting up there.

    Matt ============================= Now you've got your voice Your own speech Don't wait 'till Someone else agrees -Rafael Bittencourt, Angra ============================= Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com

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    Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:14:26 GMT From: "segue mike" <jp62693@hotmail.com> To: listserv@home.ease.lsoft.com Cc: themirror@egroups.com, ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: mpls dt show Message-ID: <20000209231426.74252.qmail@hotmail.com>

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    Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:35:45 -0500 From: Joe Latuscha <Joseph.Latuscha@maine.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFAM Lyrics Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000209183545.0079a4b0@maine.edu>

    Hey fellow YTSEJAMers... I seem to have lost the sleve to my Scenes from a Memory cd. I was wondering if anyone could be as so kind to send the lyrics in the body of an e-mail?? If anyone can, it would be much apreciated. Thanks Joe Latuscha

    Joseph.Latuscha@maine.edu

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:47:52 EST From: Compadre32@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: TEXAS LOVES DREAM THEATER FOREVER Message-ID: <8e.10fb1ab.25d356a8@aol.com>

    TEXAS. DREAM THEATER. I AM SAD. SENTENCES>I CANT MAKE...BECAUSE I AM SAD. I NEED TO SEE DREAM THEATER.

    down in tejas.

    john c. wells

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:58:03 EST From: NShh641@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Cleveland show info Message-ID: <e4.1581f1f.25d3590b@aol.com>

    I am driving up from Blacksburg, VA to see the Cleveland show. I was wondering if anyone knows if this is an over 21 club, because I would hate to drive all that way for nothing.

    Nik

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:50:52 -0500 From: "Sarah Spangler" <sarpen@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: food for thought... Message-ID: <296A408D7CED3D11DA4C0005B8E831CD@sarpen.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    In defense of non-musicians (hopefully an eye opener of sorts for musicians):

    I am a new subscriber and a minority on two levels in the DT fan population: 1) I am female, 2) I am not a musician. I have, however, considered myself a DT fan for a couple of years now. For me it started with my ex-boyfriend, who was into progrock and metal and is a musician (mainly guitar, but bass and drums as well). In the past couple of years through increased exposure to bands like DT, Fates Warning, Spocks Beard, Queensryche, Drain STH, Opeth, and the likes, my understanding of music has grown immensely! Granted, I admit to not hearing as much when I listen as musicians do; but when I first heard DT, I didn't like them at all. To me it was just noise, and as I started listening more and more I started being able to separate the different instrumental parts and I began to like them. As I started hearing more in the music, I became a fan. Now it's to the point where I truely understand what the difference between metal and progrock is and can appreciate odd time signatures and such when I listen. I can no longer stand to listen to popular music and jump at the chance to go to a DT concert or buy a new prog cd. This music has done a lot for my music appreciation and I've grown from it.

    So, here's my question: Are my musical tastes any less valid than anyone elses? Granted, I may not look for the same things, but the appreciation is there all the same... Am I any less of a DT fan for that? I ask because this list, be it great for musicians, seems to slaughter anyone with a slightly uninformed opinion. Progrock, while it speaks mostly to musicians, has a select audience of people like me and in theory, we should be welcome members of the crowd. Because we are not musicians, shouldn't mean we are lesser people... our interests perhaps lay elsewhere (such as for me with art, graphic design, and web design). I'm not implying that it does to any of you, but I ask that all opinions be welcome... welcome to critique as well, but not rage. This message is not meant to have you all draw your swords, but rather to present the feelings of a non-musician in this crowd of musicians and perhaps make you think a little.

    Aside from that: I'm a Philly fan! Any ytsejam meetings happening at the concert here?

    Sarah :)

    P.S.- I have nothing against musicians, in fact, I love them! Keep playing and I'll keep listening!

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    Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:23:44 +0100 From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Elvin Jones Message-ID: <200002100121.CAA25267@altair.ceu.hu>

    > . (Another way to conceptualize this threesome is body, mind and > spirit.) " > > I just wanted to share that, I'm done now. > -Fran/Banjoman

    Thank you, man! That's a good piece of wisdom. Tibor a.k.a. Avalanche

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    Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:24:57 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: dregs album Message-ID: <20000210012457.2775.qmail@hotmail.com>

    to whoever asked, the Dregs ARE touring in support of their new live album, the title of which eludes me. I haven't seen it in any stores so far, hopefully they'll have it at the concert. -fran/banjoman

    p.s. HEY MIKE! GET JERRY GOODMAN TO SIT IN ON 'PERUVIAN SKIES' WHEN YOU PLAY NEW HAVEN!!! PLEASE?!? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- We blew a fuse with a BALLAD?!? - Scott Henderson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:27:04 -0500 From: "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: names Message-ID: <001101bf7365$f11a7f80$636a0d18@abdn1.md.home.com>

    that would John Petrucci if you were wondering how to spell it. Just thought I would bring it up. No insult intended. Peace, love, and DT.

    ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Matt Molite <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:12 PM Subject: Re: names

    > > >>Yeah ive noticed most good musicians have cool names :) > >>off the top of my head : > >>Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, of course the DT members, John Patitucci > (sp?) > >>Chick Corea (hows that for a pimpin' name!) , Mark Zonder, theres > tons of > >>cool europeans too... Mikael Akerfeldt (or god) , Dan > Swano..Hell ..all the > >>guy's names in Meshuggah .. HEH > > Lets not forget the Scandinavian musicians that happen to have > PARTICULARLY cool names. Yngwie Malmsteen, Timo Tolkki, Jens > Johansson...and yes the guys in Meshuggah too :-) > > > > Matt > ============================= > Now you've got your voice > Your own speech > Don't wait 'till > Someone else agrees > -Rafael Bittencourt, Angra > ============================= > Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ > ___________________________________________________________ > Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:31:41 EST From: BChochola@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 5300 Message-ID: <69.ee2728.25d36efd@aol.com>

    RE: Texas LOVES Dream Theater (hint, hint)

    Okay boys, I know it's too hot most of the time, too cold some of the time, in the middle of a drought ALL of the time (except when under a flash flood warning), AND we suffer hail storms, dust storms, F5 twisters, hurricanes, lightning that can peel the paint off your tour bus, swarms of killer bees, giant mounds of fire ants, invasions of grass hoppers, invasions of crickets, invasions of illegal aliens, roaches that fly, roaches that crawl... Oh heck, we may have all of the worst parts of the Bible down here, but we do love our Dream Theater. We're all not rootin' tootin' boot-scootin' buckaroos -- some of us would like to even see Hank Williams Jr. wedged in between the Monday Night Football crashing helmets. So, PLEASE come to Ft. Worth. PLEASE!!! I saw DT at The Caravan of Dreams (the best freakin' concert venue this rock soldier has ever seen) one week before they recorded OIALT and it was like having them in my own living room. You must return. I promise, NO COW TIPPIN'.

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    Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:53:23 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: names Message-ID: <38A22823.C12648EF@yunque.net>

    Matt J Lough wrote:

    > that would John Petrucci if you were wondering how to spell it. Just > thought I would bring it up. No insult intended. Peace, love, and DT. >

    No it wouldnt be because im not talking about John Petrucci im talking about John Patitucci the bass player..

    Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back. Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind. Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:07:28 -0500 From: "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: names Message-ID: <006301bf736b$95930b40$636a0d18@abdn1.md.home.com>

    sorry, I thought you were talking about Petucci from DT. Why is everyone so touchy lately?

    ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Carlos A. Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: Re: names

    > > > > Matt J Lough wrote: > > > that would John Petrucci if you were wondering how to spell it. Just > > thought I would bring it up. No insult intended. Peace, love, and DT. > > > > No it wouldnt be because im not talking about John Petrucci > im talking about John Patitucci the bass player.. > > > Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back. > Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind. > Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. > mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org > > >

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) From: dav w <dav_metropolis@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5300 Message-ID: <20000210013509.6480.qmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com>

    >> Back to the subject- Theory counts for nothing to >> musicians like Cal Collins for example. Cal is a jazz >> guitarist that learned COMEPLETLY by ear, and plays That's complete bullshit. I'm sorry, what did I miss? So he's self taught - so what? I know theory perfectly well, and I'm 100% self-taught. That's no excuse.~Simon

    Jeepers! Sorry for any confusion... I was basically using the example of Cal collins being completly self taught as being an example of a musician not knowing what he is doing theoretically, yet still sounding good. I am certainly not saying by any means that THEARY IS BAD! I rather like music theory and find that anaylizing what I play (and what others do also) liberating in a way. Some musicians manage to bypass the theoretical points and manage to make wonderful music is all! latuh

    dav

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:07:03 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The Hostess Conspiracy. ***SLC show highlights*** Message-ID: <012e01bf7374$2488aa00$190d84d0@default>

    To top things off. The Twinkies didn't go over well gang. Every band member rejected them much to my disappointment. :( Although several of the people hanging around the "rope" found them to be quite enjoyable... Could it be that Hostess products are sanctified in the name of Dream Theater? Perhaps there is a shrine to Twinkie the Kid in the bus we don't know about? To eat a Twinkie is to sin in the eyes of the almighty Hostess? I dunno. Mike just told me to bring him a bottle of Tequila next time. hehehehe. So you all know that now. :) He's burnt on Jaggrmeister.

    Anyway. To start things off. Those of you think you're going to score something by coming early. Save yourselves. A half hour before showtime some gooftroop appeared on stage named The Star People. Evidentally the unannounced opening act. To quote one of the band guys (whose name will be withheld for his protection) "man, my thoughts exactly. They're like fucking vaudeville." While they appeared to have talent, they were pretty much a novelty act. Everyone was making fun of them after the show. hehehehe.

    Next... The Dixie Dregs. I haven't listened to the Dregs much, but their performance last night blew me away. Steve Morse is fucking king. They played for a full hour and although I don't know any of their songs, the one he did announce was "The Mash" and he did that nifty fiddle on the guitar thing and I was shitting my bricks. I've never heard anyone use a volume knob and solo so damn fast. EVH doesn't hold a candle to Morse. F'n A!

    Another highlight of the Dregs was that they did an EXCELLENT cover of Zappa's Peaches En Regalia. VERY well played for only a 6-man band. And yes, they are selling their new CD at the show for $17. It's called something California.

    Now for Dream Theater. What can I say? Everything about them was perfect for the most part. There were a few complications here and there. It seems like the crew in general was lacking a bit. The lighting people could never get the spotlight on the right people. I think the lights were done by the actual Kingsbury Hall staff, though. DT's own lighting setup was perfectly organized though, except for, again, the stupid spotlight guy. During Regression, James' was barely audible, and at the beginning of Through Her Eyes his mic was even on at all. John Myung was barely audible through the whole thing *sigh* as usual and every once in awhile Jordan got lost in the mix, too. And then there was the tripped out Staff guy in the center aisle who was disturbing everyone's show. He kept trying to interact with all of us on the aisle and I'm surprised no one kicked his ass. When he bent down and said this real effeminate "hi" in my ear I had to restrain myself from saying something rude. hehehehe.

    John P was changing guitars more than I change my underwear. He started with his new blue EB guitar (sweet lookin) and traded off occasionally to his Model 2 JPM and his GI Joe Model 4. He also had a nice looking blue sunburst 7 string that he was playing quite a bit, too. It looked like he broke a string sometime in the middle of The Dance of Eternity though and had to play his parts (excellently) without it up to Jordan's solo. Jordan's solo made me go wee wee. Nuff said. That techno rythmn with him playing over his sequenced shit was intense. I think he could give Keith Emerson some lessons for sure. :)

    The setlist was pretty simple. Although I was satisfied with what they played, I have to echo Bryan's thought about the setlist. While playing SFAM front to back was great and absolutely tighter than a 16 year old virgin, it was something we had basically heard before. :\ Oh, well, maybe next tour. :)

    The setlist: SFAM in its entirety with Jordan's key solo in the midst of TDoE. To cap it off they played a medley (like a 20+ minute medley) of Peruvian Skies, an Austin Powers motife, Paradigm Shift, Pull Me Under, Under a Glass Moon, A Fortune in Lies, Only a Matter of Time, and Take the Time.

    Through the whole show James was DEAD on. He only cracked like three times and had to drop to keep from cracking once. And he hit ALL the high notes. That's damn good for a two hour show in which so much of it is written for such a high timbre, imo. I know I couldn't do it. And he was totally into the crowd. Very interactive, pointing at people, getting the audience clapping, etc...

    After the show the band came out one by one and eventually they all gave autographs, took pictures, etc. I met Gerald (fellow jammer), Max from Spokane, and a few other people. Lots of fun hanging out in the back. :) I was surprised at how many people actually were back there. It was kind of disappointing, something like 52 of us. Didn't leave any time to converse with the band between autographs and running to the bus. :\ And remember everyone, bring Tequila, not Twinkies! :)

    Probably my favorite part of the show was how I started a big clap-along in the crowd during the Star People's set and people were like "knock it off! Don't encourage them!" :) Great fun. I'm tired long night and long day. Catch ya later, Ytsejam! -- KorgX3 thinks the only thing better than this would be the NAMM show.

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:14:56 -0500 (EST) From: Drew Schinzel <schi2299@fredonia.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: some more stuff on eBay Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.10.10002092312550.8320-100000@bluedevil.cc.fredonia.edu>

    Hey all, sorry to post another one of these, but I've recently put up some more CDs on ebay, and I think some people here may be interested in them.

    The CDS are:

    Testament - Demonic Primal Fear- S/T Magellan - Test of Wills Gehenna - First Spell Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence Dimentia Sepultura - Morbid Visions Summoning - Dol Goldur

    if anyone's interested, just head to the following URL for a list of all of the item numbers and such:

    http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=deemuu

    Thanks !

    Drew

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    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:35:10 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Oh, yah. Message-ID: <000f01bf7380$3b991700$190d84d0@default>

    And to add to my previously overly-lengthy concert critique... I just thought I'd mention that they ended Take The Time on a suspended note. hehehe. DT must suck. :) -- KorgX3 almost forgot all about that.

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    Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:57:13 EST From: "Jon Dery" <shoefoot@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New Band on the Prog Scene: Greyhaven Message-ID: <20000210045714.66114.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Hello everybody!

    This is Jon Dery. I was (off &) on the jam a long time ago. I remember getting jams in the 800's back in the Awake days. The new album kind of inspired me to resubscribe so I could waste time screwing around at work. I promised myself that I would only post when absolutely necessary, because I actually enjoy not getting twelve digests of "best of" and "Derek" threads every day.

    Anyway, I'm here to promote my former-roomate's band, Grehaven. We both go to Berklee- the school of bad guitarists and outstanding horn players. Their self-titled debut is coming out in mid-March on Angular Records (home of Eternity X and Relayer). I got to hear it last year and it sounded great- really atmospheric songs and great production. It has since been remixed for even better sound quaility. I know lots of you guys will totally dig this. Check it out. There are soundclips on their website: www.havenweb.com.

    I an going to the DT show at the Roxy in Boston on the 27th and will enjoy seeing some old friends who I have not seen or talked to since my "absence". (I had to say that because it makes me seem like an enigma, even though I am not.)

    Later all, Jon Dery

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    Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:00:23 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Derek and Yngwie do Ozzy Message-ID: <e2.118e08b.25d39fe7@aol.com>

    I don't how many Ozzy fans there are out there, but there is an Ozzy tribute coming out that has a cover of "Mr. Crowley" done with Yngwie on guitar and Derek Sherinian on keyboards! Of course, the singer is going to be Ripper Owens (the guy who's the lead singer of Judas Priest these days), but hey, 2 outta 3 aint bad! It might be worth a listen when it comes out. Just thought I'd mention it though either way. -Mike C.

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    Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:08:15 -0500 From: "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5301 Message-ID: <001e01bf7384$f3832a00$6a6c8acf@freelark>

    Ooops, I mistakingly wrote:

    "Theory can provide a deeper understanding about how the music works. I don't think anyone will argue that knowledge of music theory is a pre-requisite for writing quality music."

    This should have read--knowledge of music theory is NOT a pre-requisite for writing quality music.

    Kinda changes the point I was trying to make!

    I-Man

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    Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:17:53 EST From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: MP at Sam Ash Message-ID: <22.1cc1c45.25d3a401@aol.com>

    Hey, MP will be at the Sam Ash Sunday in Burbank at 2:00 pm. Go to MikePortnoy.com for appearance dates & times for other days. See ya, Todd

    "I sit down with my son, set to see the Crimson Sunset"

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    Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:49:08 -0400 From: "Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Styx Message-ID: <003101bf738a$9c434a80$0101a8c0@JonDoe.prtc.net>

    To the person who was asking about Styx, I recommend you get their Greatest Hits album. You'll hear a lot of songs you'll be able to recognize (although now that I think about it this depends on your age) and there's plenty of other kickass tunes, including the two you mentioned in your post (Suite Madame Blue and Crystal Ball). Also get the Greatest Hits Part 2, which kicks ass as well. The only other Styx album I have is Caught in the Act - Live which includes songs that are on both of the greatest hits albums, except for one studio song recorded just for that album. It also kicks ass. That's all I can say since I don't have any of their other albums, but you can't go wrong with these. Dennis DeYoung has one hell of a great voice, and plays keys beautifully as well.

    Alexis

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    Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:10:52 -0500 From: "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Styx Message-ID: <000f01bf738d$95dc77e0$636a0d18@abdn1.md.home.com>

    I have to agree, the greatest hits album is the best album to buy if you're a new Styx fan. There's a plethera (sp.?) of great songs to enjoy. And you don't have to be old to like them. If you're into Styx, or anything else from that era of music, get Boston's greatest hits. I know the two aren't similar (expcept for the time they were popular), but it's a good disc to buy. Peace, love, and DT.

    ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Alexis/Axel <alexis1@prtc.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:08 AM Subject: Styx

    > > To the person who was asking about Styx, I recommend you get their Greatest > Hits album. You'll hear a lot of songs you'll be able to recognize > (although now that I think about it this depends on your age) and there's > plenty of other kickass tunes, including the two you mentioned in your post > (Suite Madame Blue and Crystal Ball). Also get the Greatest Hits Part 2, > which kicks ass as well. The only other Styx album I have is Caught in the > Act - Live which includes songs that are on both of the greatest hits > albums, except for one studio song recorded just for that album. It also > kicks ass. That's all I can say since I don't have any of their other > albums, but you can't go wrong with these. Dennis DeYoung has one hell of a > great voice, and plays keys beautifully as well. > > Alexis >

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