YTSEJAM Digest 5304
Today's Topics:
1) 2/9 DENVER SHOW
by Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
2) Sarah/Doug
by "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
3) Mike, theory and guitarist who think they can be Kirk Hammet in a week
by "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
4) Re: YTSE GRAS 99/Hammett
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
5) Bass Ringing problem
by Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>
6) Styx
by "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
7) Question about Rudess-Morgenstein project.
by "Lorenzo Zoli" <lorenzozoli@hotmail.com>
8) frederic thorendol
by dav w <dav_metropolis@yahoo.com>
9) AW: Question about Rudess-Morgenstein project.
by "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
10) Re: Error Condition Re: Posting rejected
by "rg7player" <rg7player@mindspring.com>
11) Re: Ytsegras
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
12) Re: Warr Guitar Questions
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <mschnoor@yahoo.com>
13) Re: Growly vocals
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
14) Dream Theater Dream
by Rachel Goldenberg <wisha@li.net>
15) Re: Growly vocals
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
16) Balance
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
17) Re: Ozzy tribute
by Fett2002@aol.com
18) Re: Dream Theater Dream
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
19) live dregs
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
20) Re: food for thought...
by "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com>
21) Star People
by "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com>
22) lol
by "mr. case" <wintermute@section-9.com>
23) ATTN MIDWESTERNERS: FREE CHICAGO TICKET
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
24) Scenes From A Memory Question
by "SCW" <klx642@gte.net>
25) Re: Star People
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
26) The Thunder From Down Under
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
27) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5303
by QUANTA666@aol.com
28) No Dt Shows in Texas (sniff, sniff)
by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:00:37 -0700
From: Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Lauren <Lauren@fourwinds-trading.com>
Subject: 2/9 DENVER SHOW
Message-ID: <38A2E0A5.12FFC24E@fourwinds-trading.com>
All i can say is WOW! I have seen them on every tour since '93 images w/ kevin moore, and last
nights show was the best EVER. Let me give y'all a little insight. But- i won't give it all away!
They played
SFAM all they way with a jordan solo spot in the ragtime part of the cd, johns solo was in through
here eyes, and they were tight.... Jordan only used 1 KEYBOARD for everything!!!!!!!!!!! He wasn't
switching back-n-fourth...amazing.
The mixing was great, myung was loud, as was petrucci, and the sound was clear with great
definition. Labrie was in rare form... he was jumping around, left the stage only twice,( he stood
onstage and jammed with the band) intimate with the crowd- he has so much energy nowadays.
They did 2 songs after SFAM....Peruvian skys all the way through, Dr. Evils ( portnoys favorite)
theme song, and paradigm shift as a medly, then another medly of Pull my finger, fortune in lies,
matter of time, & take the time. They were perfect.
Go see it and stand by the sounds board- its mixed perfect!!!!!
<at the show by the soundboard, farting loud during the shitty openers>
.....Jared
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:05:36 -0500
From: "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
To: "YTSEJAM Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Sarah/Doug
Message-ID: <001c01bf73e0$b1ba2c20$76035a8c@noaa.gov.osogroup>
Doug, you're OK with me because you're a stand-up guy, and musically wise
beyond your years (IMO of course!). Of course you better thicken up that
skin of yours if you don't like nitpicking, 'cause you probably won't see
too many apologies around here ;-)
I-Man
>I'm 14 years old, I live in Erie, PA and I'm in 9th grade. I'm a fan of
>Genesis, Dream Theater, ELP, Yes, King Crimson, Kevin Gilbert, Tom Petty
and
>the Heartbreakers, Phil Collins, and many others. I'm not strictly a prog
>fan, however, as some people narrow themselves to be. Welcome to the Dream
>Theater mailing list, I'm sure we all hope that you enjoy your stay :)
>
>~Doug Melvin
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:21:06 -0500
From: "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Mike, theory and guitarist who think they can be Kirk Hammet in a week
Message-ID: <002401bf73e2$d5f57660$76035a8c@noaa.gov.osogroup>
Mike,
To answer your question:
1) Musicians have as much time to "waste" here as you obviously do. (so does
MP, BTW)
2) Talent alone never got anyone a world tour.
3) A person can be a very talented guitarist and not desire to be in a band
or on a world tour for many reasons.
I have a question for you:
Since this list is about DT and related topics, this discussion about stuff
related to music theory is relevant to DT since they are very knowledgeable
and capable musicians with a firm grasp of music theory. Why do you want the
musicians who have opinions on this topic to leave the list?
I, for one, am interested in their opinions and I suspect that they form a
sizeable portion of DTs fan base. Many awesome musicians can be a little big
headed at times. I think it comes from people constantly telling them how
great they are. So you know, despite my legions of fans and admirers--I have
remained modest ;-)
I-Man
> OK, I have a real big question here. Apparently, there are a few guitar
> players on this list who are just incredible and we other ytsejammers
should
> be greatful we are in there mere prescence. My question is this: If you
guys
> are so great, then how come you keep wasting your time by posting on this
> damn newsgroup??? Shouldn't you guys be off dazzling the world with your
> incredible guitar playing skills??? Jesus Christ already (and excuse the
> language if you hapen to be offended). And this doesn't neccessarily apply
to
> the guy who wrote the quote above, I'm just using this as an opportunity.
> Especiallly to the one guy who said taht he could learn to play better
than
> Kirk Hammet in a week (or wors to that effect). Well then, stop wasting
your
> time here, go do it, join a band, and tour the damn world already.
> -Mike C.
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:23:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSE GRAS 99/Hammett
Message-ID: <498e3b456cgraham@picsel.com>
In article <20000210.095834.11670.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>,
Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> wrote:
> There could be some undiscovered Jo Blow that kicks everyone's dick off
> and weve never heard of him.
I have a friend.
(No, really.)
This friend is a guitar freak; he is a huge fan of Steve Vai, John
Petrucci, Yngwie Malmsteen, etc. He's also a very talented rock guitarist
himself. A short while ago, I asked him to name his favourite guitarist,
confidently expecting the answer to be Vai.
I was very surprised when he mentioned someone I'd never heard of (and
unfortunately I can't remember the guy's name). Apparently this amazing
guitarist is a forty-something unemployed person who lives in Edinburgh,
Scotland, who can outplay Vai, Petrucci, et al in his sleep.
I asked why I'd never heard of him, or why he wasn't famous, or why he
wasn't in a band, or something. The answer:
"He's too shy."
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:25:21 -0600 From: Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bass Ringing problem Message-ID: <B4C84291.6C0D%srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu>
Hiya,
I've got a six string too, and occasionally it seesm to suffer from the ringing all all string s when I hit the lower strings. What seems to really help me is four things:1, try a lighter guage of string (this might be unacceptibel to you as it was to me because it makes your bass sound like a guitar with larengitis)2, mute the strings with your left hand fingers as you play, 3. play with your fingers not a pick, as the hammerstops stop the lower string from ringing (besides, it just soiunds ballsier this way) and 4.) Play as far away from you bass amp as possible and face away fromspeaker so the vibrattion from the speaker doesn';t rattle your strings. (You don't have to be playign all that loud on a six string for this to happen)
Hopes this helps, Seth
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:25:04 -0500 From: "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net> To: "YTSEJAM Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Styx Message-ID: <002501bf73e3$63b770c0$76035a8c@noaa.gov.osogroup>
I think the song your thinking of is "Suite Madam Blue" Great song. I think the earlier Styx is much better than the stuff that came after Grand Illusion. Some of that stuff got way to sappy for me. "Babe I Love You"! Yuck! Check out Equinox and Styx II. A little more raunchy stuff.
I-Man
>I really liked that "Suite..." thing (or is it"Sweet.." ?), I'd like to hear >more like that, if it's a representative song from their catalog ? And yeah, >Crystal Ball was a good one too...
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:45:33 CET From: "Lorenzo Zoli" <lorenzozoli@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Question about Rudess-Morgenstein project. Message-ID: <20000210164533.8598.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi mates, I'm new to the list so sorry if I started 3 days ago with such a silly question but I didn't even know how the list works, ect, ect...
I have a new question today: I saw DT once in the north of Italy in Pordenone and as support band there were Jordan Rudess and Rod Morgenstein. I remember very clearly that their show really impressed me but unfortunetly I made the big mistake to not buy their cd right that night (maybe I didn't have enough money!). So I've tried for months to get it somewhere in my city but I couldn't.
The question is: Is it a quality album, compareble to the LTE one's? Have they made more than one album? How can I buy it from Italy? (some cd-seller told me that probably is not available in my country)
I have all the cd's of DT and LTE and I found Morgenstein an amazing drummer, so I'm really interested in all the albums of the side projects with DT or LTE members (instrumental or not), but on the other hand I'm not used to buy cd's if I'm not sure they are really good. I'd like to get some suggestions from people that have listened to those albums.
Thank you friends.
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my personal website.
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:29:18 -0800 (PST) From: dav w <dav_metropolis@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: frederic thorendol Message-ID: <20000210162918.3102.qmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com>
Hey all!
I was just wondering if anybody has heard of a band or solo project called, "frederic thorendol and special defects?" Its awesome. To give a slight synopsis- everything that they play is a polyrhythm, everything! Its worth buying if you can 1- tolerate the singing (screaming) and 2- if you can find it. I know its on Amazon.com and its just bad as hell. latuh
dav
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:55:34 +0100 From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <mlpruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: AW: Question about Rudess-Morgenstein project. Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030801E533@fileserver2>
> The question is: Is it a quality album, compareble to the LTE one's?
It's hard to compare those, but it definitely is a quality album with less throwaway-stuff than on the LTE albums.
> Have they made more than one album?
Not yet.
> How can I buy it from Italy? (some cd-seller > told me that probably is not available in my country) I think www.jordanrudess.com had a link to the mediusvision store where you can order it.
> I have all the cd's of DT and LTE and I found Morgenstein an amazing > drummer, so I'm really interested in all the albums of the side projects > with DT or LTE members (instrumental or not),
You might like the Platypus album "When Pus Comes To Shove" and the second one "Ice-Cycles" that's coming out later this month. It features Morgenstein on drums with John Myung and Derek Sherinian on bass/keys and Ty Tabor from King's X on guitar and vocals.
Bye, Mike -- "What makes a dream so very different from any other dream ?" -- Michael Pruchnicki Editor PlayStation Zone, N-Zone
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:03:20 -0800 From: "rg7player" <rg7player@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Posting rejected Message-ID: <000601bf73e8$bca06b60$922179a5@rg7playermindspring.com>
Delete me -----Original Message----- ]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com <ytsejam@torchsong.com> To: rg7player@mindspring.com <rg7player@mindspring.com> Cc: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com <ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com> Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:36 AM Subject: Error Condition Re: Posting rejected
>Your posting to list YTSEJAM was rejected. >Reason: message size limit exceeded (maximum allowed: 10000 bytes) >The first few lines of your message are included herein for reference: > > >DELETE FROM THE MAILING LIST !!!!! This is the 4 Th time I have asked >-----Original Message----- >]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:01 AM >Subject: YTSEJAM digest 5303 > > >> YTSEJAM Digest 5303
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:58:43 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Ytsegras Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.10.10002101156290.11916-100000@gs.bass.org>
Kurt threw against the wall hoping it would stick: >I realized the band is most likely gonna be in New Orleans for Mardi >Gras. It would be great to rum into them.
>Rum< into them? I thought Mike liked Tequila...
paul NP Adrian Belew: Coming Attractions ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's biweekly musical quote:
We're all someone's daughter;/ we're all someone's son./ How can we look at each other/ down the barrel of a gun?
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:09:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <mschnoor@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Warr Guitar Questions Message-ID: <20000210170947.7583.qmail@web106.yahoomail.com>
In Ytsejam #5303, the one and only Trevor Hoit spoke:
> LOL! Where's Puh-Tah-Check when you need him? > "Shut up and practice!!!"
Doubtless he's out practicing, or recording in a studio somewhere, laughing his ass off at the rest of us. ;)
> MY question is: > Is a Warr Guitar to a regular guitar the same as > a Chapman Stick is to a bass?
Not really. The Warr Guitar is essentially the tricked-out fancier cousin of the Stick. The essential 2-handed tapping concept is the same between both instruments, but unlike the Stick, the Warr actually has a body. Emmett Chapman designed the Stick as a minimalist instrument, with pretty much only the neck and other accessories as necessary. Mark Warr took it further, and modeled his instruments after more standard guitar shapes.
Generally, Warr guitars are more "beautiful" and exotic than Sticks. Also, the pickups and electronics are more versatile and adjustable. Warr guitars are probably more suited for using plucking and strumming techniques than Sticks, while both work great as touchstyle instruments. Warr Guitars are at least twice the price of a similar Stick.
For most models, tuning can be the same across both instruments. Both are easy to customize for pretty much any tuning. The standard tuning for touch guitars usually splits the fretboard into 2 sections, one for bass strings and the other for melody strings. Accomplished touch guitarists can play both sides simultaneously; I however cannot. Musicians who choose one or the other usually do so based on tonal qualities and playing needs.
If you've never seen Trey Gunn (or any talented touch guitarist) before, you're in for a treat. Watch his hands and the way they just seem to tap the strings in a fluid motion.
So, to answer your question with an analogy... the Stick is the trusty Datsun 240, and the Warr is a decked-out Lexus. Both serve their purpose well. ;)
(see www.warrguitars.com and www.stick.com )
> Trevor is going to see the Trey Gunn Band Friday night.
Check Trey Gunn's homepage at www.treygunn.com - lately, the band has been discouraged and had some "internal" problems. I was lucky enough to see them in Santa Barbara on the 5th (Saturday) but I don't know if they'll continue the tour. Here's hoping they do, because I plan to see them live in Portland this coming Saturday night. Anyone else going to either show? :)
PS - hi op777!
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:13:04 -0800 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Growly vocals Message-ID: <38A2F19F.CF31E208@ucla.edu>
Don't forget Amorphis. They don't have the death vocals that much, just enough to provide contrast in some of the songs. These guys are Finnish and there are a lot of neat ethnic influences in the songs, talking purely musical here, not lyrical. As for Katatonia, I have two of their albums. Brave Murder Day is a bit of a bore, though I do love the song "Endtimes", which I bought the album for. Discouraged Ones is a better cd, IMO. Then we get off on a whole new tangent into doom metal... mmmm, doom metal..
~~Amanda
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:23:16 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Goldenberg <wisha@li.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Dream Theater Dream Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.10.10002101207200.12579-100000@linet01.li.net>
Hi. I'm happily reading everyone's accounts of the current tour, thanks for sharing the stories. And I'm eagerly waiting for the fan club cd and the show in NYC :) So last night I had a dream. I rarely remember my dreams. The basis for this is the following: a co-worker's dog was missing for a few days and this woman's dog is like her baby. All I kept hearing were the ads that would run in local papers, and what could have happened, etc. Luckily they found the dog in a shelter a few towns away. So in my dream she was going away somewhere, and needed someone to watch the dog. I told her Mike Portnoy would. So the next thing I know Mike and I are in a car driving with the dog. I wanted to go to the beach, but he said it would be too cold and he needed to go to the bank. I forget some of the details. -Rachel
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:31:55 -0400 From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Growly vocals Message-ID: <000701bf73ec$ba36e8a0$37351ec8@yunque.net>
----- Original Message ----- ]From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Growly vocals
> > Don't forget Amorphis. They don't have the death vocals that much, just > enough to provide contrast in some of the songs. These guys are Finnish > and there are a lot of neat ethnic influences in the songs, talking > purely musical here, not lyrical. As for Katatonia, I have two of their > albums. Brave Murder Day is a bit of a bore, though I do love the song > "Endtimes", which I bought the album for. Discouraged Ones is a better > cd, IMO. Then we get off on a whole new tangent into doom metal... > mmmm, doom metal.. > > ~~Amanda
Heh thats odd ...well everyone has diff. opinions... for me, Brave Murder Day is more enjoyable than discouraged ones because of Opeth's vocalist. The music is sort of the same plodding rythim and basic structure...but id rather listen to Mikael growl than that other guys whiney voice.. I dont know ...Katatonia doesnt do much for me ...all the songs on Discouraged sound like theyre on the same key and have the same rythim pattern. Now if im in a doomy mood id rather go for some newer tiamat , soul grind, or some goth influenced (im using the term goth here because thats what everyone labels it, i abhor that using that term) doom like theatre of tragedy, older my dying bride (and their most recent) , tristania, within temptation, sins of thy beloved and on thorns i lay.... (this msg is not directed towards you, amanda directly, mind you )
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:40:49 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Balance Message-ID: <38A2F821.E77037BC@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Swifty wrote: > Korg the potato farmer wrote: > > Another highlight of the Dregs was that they did an EXCELLENT cover of > > Zappa's Peaches En Regalia. VERY well played for only a 6-man band. > > Damn, I can't wait to hear that!
Me neither! Is this something they've been doing at each show, or are they surprising people with different shiz each gig?
> About theory - theory isn't for everybody. My belief is that you get out
I have a theory..............and it is mine :)
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahem ahem ahem
Ok, now this theory that I have, that is I would to aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahem, that I would like to share with you............is mine ;)
and here it is:
aaaaaaaaaahem AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHEM AHEM AHEM!!!
Morse has a plenty 'o theory AND incredible emotion
BUT: He gives a lot of credit to some pickin' and a grinnin' old guy for having learned a lot of that stuff.
Summary: It's all about balance!
AHEM!
Regards, Jon -- "I justthought I'd mention that they ended Take The Time on a suspended note. hehehe. DT must suck. :)" - KorgX3 :)
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:46:33 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ozzy tribute Message-ID: <6c.184256d.25d45379@aol.com>
>> there is an Ozzy >>tribute >>coming out that has a cover of "Mr. Crowley" done with Yngwie on guitar and >>Derek Sherinian on keyboards! Of course, the singer is going to be Ripper >>Owens (the guy who's the lead singer of Judas Priest these days), but hey, 2 >>outta 3 aint bad
>So what's wrong with Ripper?!? Granted, everyone's entitled to their >opinions, but I was very impressed with Ripper's work on both Jugulator and >the double live album. That dude has one HELL of a voice. He reminds me of >a Halford with balls. I personally, would love to hear Ripper have a shot at >Mr. Crowley... :-)
>My 2.5 cents.... Matt T.
OK, my bad here. I didn't mean any disprespect towards Ripper Owens. In fact, I've never actually really heard him sing. I just thought it was a little odd that he would go along with Yngwie and Derek is all and was kind of a no-name compared to them. Doubt you'd find those three ever hangin on a corner together! At any rate, I look forward to hearing this tune. -Mike C.
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:48:11 -0500 From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Dream Theater Dream Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000210124747.00ac4cc0@pop.ecosoft.com>
Ya gotta read the markings on the Nyquil shot glass more clearly next time.. =)
At 09:33 AM 2/10/00 -0800, Rachel Goldenberg wrote:
>Hi. I'm happily reading everyone's accounts of the current tour, thanks >for sharing the stories. And I'm eagerly waiting for the fan club cd and >the show in NYC :) So last night I had a dream. I rarely remember my >dreams. The basis for this is the following: a co-worker's dog was >missing for a few days and this woman's dog is like her baby. All I kept >hearing were the ads that would run in local papers, and what could have >happened, etc. Luckily they found the dog in a shelter a few towns away. >So in my dream she was going away somewhere, and needed someone >to watch the dog. I told her Mike Portnoy would. So the next thing I know >Mike and I are in a car driving with the dog. I wanted to go to the beach, >but he said it would be too cold and he needed to go to the bank. I forget >some of the details. >-Rachel
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:49:19 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: live dregs Message-ID: <20000210174919.2354.qmail@hotmail.com>
>The new live Dregs album is called California Screamin' Live. It But back >to the album, it's got three covers: Peaches en Regalia (with guest Dweezil >Zappa), Jessica (Allmann Brothers), and >of course Dixie. A stunning >recording of what was, I'm sure, a >stunning evening.
Just got mine the other day, it IS pretty cool, except maybe for the fact that at time you have to wonder if it really is live....I don't have the "Full Circle" or whatever the dregs (or steve morse band's) other relatively recent live album is, but I've heard that it has the same "problem", that the playing is so perfect it's hard to tell that it's live.....
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:12:52 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: food for thought... Message-ID: <200002101312.AA192545080@pressroom.com>
>So, here's my question: Are my musical tastes any less valid than >anyone elses? Granted, I may not look for the same things, but the >appreciation is there all the same... Am I any less of a DT fan for >that? I ask because this list, be it great for musicians, seems to >slaughter anyone with a slightly uninformed opinion. Progrock, while >it speaks mostly to musicians, has a select audience of people like me >and in theory, we should be welcome members of the crowd. Because we >are not musicians, shouldn't mean we are lesser people... our >interests perhaps lay elsewhere (such as for me with art, graphic >design, and web design). I'm not implying that it does to any of you, >but I ask that all opinions be welcome... welcome to critique as well, >but not rage. This message is not meant to have you all draw your >swords, but rather to present the feelings of a non-musician in this >crowd of musicians and perhaps make you think a little.
First off, welcome to the list. It's nice to see the female population of this list getting bigger. :^) From a guy that has very little musical ability but a huge appriciation of music, I understand. There are plenty of us on here who aren't musicians who benefit from this list as well, so don't feel out of place here.
As for the recent flame war, when you have been on this list as long as I have (I've been on here since digest numbers were in the double digits), you find that this happens on a semi-regular basis and you just tune it out. Stick around a while. You'll enjoy it.
>Aside from that: I'm a Philly fan! Any ytsejam meetings happening at >the concert here?
Too bad we can't convice you to come to DC... :^)
Jason
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:22:53 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Star People Message-ID: <200002101322.AA194904376@pressroom.com>
>Anyway. To start things off. Those of you think you're going to score >something by coming early. Save yourselves. A half hour before >showtime some gooftroop appeared on stage named The Star People.
Lol. I saw them open for Ozric Tenticles. They are most definitly silly. I think they are worth seeing once for the humor factor.
Jason
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Date: 10 Feb 2000 18:26:41 -0000 From: "mr. case" <wintermute@section-9.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: lol Message-ID: <20000210182641.3534.qmail@whitfield.chek.com>
oh shut up :) ::sigh:: now i feel i must clerify..you're only an idiot (refering to hammet) if you don't know what the fuck your doing and you happen upon a sus note at the end of a solo when the rest of the band resolves.. i was just trying to point out an obvious blunder the guy makes on a regular basis.. i never said you "couldn't" end on a sus chord/note..but it's really gotta be in context or it sounds like shit.. and yeah they did that at the marritime show as well and i KNEW someone was gonna bring that shit up :) hehe
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>And to add to my previously overly-lengthy >concert critique... I just thought I'd mention that >they ended Take The Time on a suspended note. >hehehe. DT must suck. :) >-- >KorgX3 almost forgot all about that.
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:54:06 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: ATTN MIDWESTERNERS: FREE CHICAGO TICKET Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.21.0002101249210.88666-100000@green.weeg.uiowa.edu>
There is a good chance that I'll be ending up w/ an extra ticket for the Chicago show this Sunday, not guaranteed tho. But if anyone near Iowa City or who would be willing to swing by there for a FREE ticket and go with me please e-mail me privately. Again--not guaranteed as of now, but will know w/i a day. Those interested that will be at the Friday show can talk to me there--I'll have a majesty symbol hangin off my necklace. --Derek Frantz
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:05:25 -0600 From: "SCW" <klx642@gte.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Scenes From A Memory Question Message-ID: <000701bf73f9$ca1b4920$33650304@us.nortel.com>
Is there a synopsis of some sort that explains the basic story behind Metropolis Part II? If not, anyone care to offer one up?
Thanks!
Scott Wilson
- Don't complain about the things you tolerate.
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:14:07 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Star People Message-ID: <001001bf73fb$1027e9e0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>What's wrong with that? I don't think any band that pretends to be aliens >expects anybody to take them seriously. Go ahead and laugh: they want you
Well, to top it all off... The only thing I found entertaining about them was watching the violin player. She rocked, didn't get enough playtime and looked quite mountable (but then, I need glasses, too). Everyone else in the band was a yawn. Their songs all sounded the same, the singer sounded like a bad night club act (and it would have helped if he'd sing).
Altogether it reminded me of sitting through a half hour of William Shatner's lame Priceline.com commercials. I guess some people actually like those. hehehehe. -- KorgX3 thinks Shatner needs beamed up again.
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:26:23 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The Thunder From Down Under Message-ID: <38A310DF.A60D22CB@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Whoever it is that's been recommened Virgil Donati since 500 digests or so ago:
Please forgive me for not listening till now! Just heard some of the new PlanetX demos. This dude is tapped!
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:43:58 EST From: QUANTA666@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5303 Message-ID: <7a.162ec38.25d46efe@aol.com>
PLEASE take me off this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:12:03 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: No Dt Shows in Texas (sniff, sniff) Message-ID: <38A31B93.4620ABA6@ozemail.com.au>
> <<RE: Texas LOVES Dream Theater (hint, hint) > > Okay boys, I know it's too hot most of the time, too cold some of the time, > in the middle of a drought ALL of the time (except when under a flash flood > warning), AND we suffer hail storms, dust storms, F5 twisters, hurricanes, > lightning that can peel the paint off your tour bus, swarms of killer bees, > giant mounds of fire ants, invasions of grass hoppers, invasions of crickets, > invasions of illegal aliens, roaches that fly, roaches that crawl... Oh heck, > we may have all of the worst parts of the Bible down here, but we do love our > Dream Theater.
Why would anyone live in Texas then :) ? ]From what you described no wonder DT won't set foot in the state :) At least DT are touring your country and are probably within a short driving/flying distance. You just don't realise how lucky you are <says me for the 1000th time>
gaz www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam
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