YTSEJAM Digest 5318
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5316
by Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
2) dt in sf
by "John Hough" <jhough_99@yahoo.com>
3) Seal
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
4) Re: Spock's Breasts
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
5) Don't start me on this one...........
by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
6) Re: essential footware
by MTeiper@aol.com
7) Re: Spock's what?!
by Fett2002@aol.com
8) The SFAM review
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5317
by Fett2002@aol.com
10) Voices: The Hypnotherapist
by "the apologist" <the_apologist@everonn.net>
11) just a reminder
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
12) Richard Marx guitar
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
13) Re: first basses
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <mschnoor@yahoo.com>
14) OK, so I'm a middle class snob.
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
15) First bass, first tape trade, ...
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
16) Why did I bother resubbing?
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
17) unsubbing
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:40:11 +0000 (GMT)
From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5316
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002172321150.552-100000@localhost>
In accordance with the prophecy, Eckie uttered:
> But to anybody else who has listened to Adam Sandler's albums...that whole
> hypnotist schtick is just too funny. I keep waiting for a fart to occur
> somewhere along the album. Just one fart.
> "As you close your eyes *fart*, you begin *FAAARRRRRRRT* oh, that was you..."
> "...Open your eyes, Nicholas!" *FARRRRRRRRRRRRRT <squirt>*. We could make a
> parody where the last few seconds are just one massively sustained expulsion
> of rectal vapors! It would make Weird Al proud!
Oh, how I shiver of uncontrollable laughter. Ha. Ha. Please, have mercy. Ha.
Really, I have listened to Adam Sandler's albums, and I don't think what you
wrote is in any way representative of his humour. I don't think it's
representative of any kind of humour in fact. By the way, did you do
www.farts.com, or are there actually anyone else on this planet who thinks this
is funny?
Sorry for ranting.
Al @ Switchcraft uttered:
> With all the attention this topic has received on the Jam... I thought
> I'd jump on the bandwagon. :) Ahem.. Peanuts: Where are they now?
>
> Charlie Brown and Marcie were wed in June of 1982.
> (snip)
That's just the official version. =) What really happened was that Lucy got
into acid (as documented by the Beatles) and had a vision of a previous life.
In that life, her boyfriend had an affair with another girl; she was furious
and killed both of them. Killing them once wasn't enough though. Inexpensive
sessions of psychiatric advice in a latter life revealed, that all of her
friends really could have been one of those two poor kids, reincarnated. So
Lucy developed a technique, where she would convince each of them that they
were the guilty party (hence Charlie Brown's melancholia) and then kill them
off.
And when she was out of friends, she went for the author. Colon cancer, my ass
(no pun intended)...
Nick Gianotti uttered:
> "Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise." -
> Some dead guy.
Shouldn't that be "Early to rise, early to bed, makes a man healthy, wealthy
and dead."?
Linus
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:37:23 -0800
From: "John Hough" <jhough_99@yahoo.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: dt in sf
Message-ID: <00f601bf7997$91ee4f40$0f84d3d1@syslabs.com>
wow it's been forever since i've posted to this list. just wanted to let
everyone know that I booted the dt show in San Fran a couple of weeks
ago and posted the mp3's up on dr. mosh's ftp site.
laterz
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:13:40 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Seal
Message-ID: <38AC7294.8CA88809@mol.com.mk>
Jesus Christ!!!!!
Just now I happen to listen Seal - Future Love Paradise. Lying on the
bed I think how good guy is this Seal, most of his songs are REALLY
good. "Kiss from a rose" is a masterpiece. And then I heard one mean
bass work on current Future Love Paradise. And it was TONY LEVIN!!!! :)
Ya just can't miss when you hear his bass.
I know Tony toured with Seal last year, but I didn't know he has
recorded stuff with him. Guys, gi find this song and just check that
bass. All I can say is WOW!
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:00:15 -0500
From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Spock's Breasts
Message-ID: <004201bf799a$c1b2aca0$0200010a@steve>
Every real Star Track (sic) fan knows that the name of the band came from
the episode where Scotty tried to beam up Spock and Uhura at the same time,
and a transporter malfunction caused them to merge. The problem being, of
course, all Spock wanted to do was sit in his quarters all day. Outside his
quarters, crew members kept hearing him say, "Fascinating," in varying
degrees of intensity.
(If you think that's a scary though, you should have seen what Uhura loked
like!)
> >The Band is called Spock's Beard and not Spock's Bears. The're named
> >after the one episode of Star Track where Spock has a Beard (this is
> >the truth!).
And yet, no, it's not. There was no episode of Star Trek called "Spock's
Beard." There was one called "Spock's Brain," in which some aliens remove
Spock's brain and use it to run their network or something.
This message brought to you by nothing in particular.
Steve Z
ODTC*: Has anyone who has seen the new tour noticed whether James is using
ear mould-monitors on this tour? With all the comments on how great he
sounds, I am curious to know if he's finally gotten smart (or enough $$$) to
do this. Lord knows wedge-monitors suck for singers
*Obligatory Dream Theater Content
The episode that features the evil Spock and the alternate Enterprise was
called something else that I don't remember, but I think it was a bit more
relevant to the episode at hand than a title such as "Spock's Beard."
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:56:13 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
To: The Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Don't start me on this one...........
Message-ID: <38AC7C8D.25CDE33@ozemail.com.au>
>BTW, to the dude who said I'm crazy complaining for being a European
>(since "we" get all the nice tours) lemme just say that Europe does not
>consists of Britain, France and Germany.
Yeah that was me and no shit, Europe is a big place, how close are you
to all the major cities, 1 hour, maybe 2 plane ride ?
Which is a damned site closer than I am.
Try a 24 hour plane ride, 12,000 miles and $2000 later just to see
OFB...........
>There are some contries (like
>mine) that we're happy to see OFB come in our neighbour country, or in
>the one next to our neighbour country. :(
Like I said Europeans have no reason AT ALL to bitch about lack of gigs.
>So shut up, get in the car and drive those hard 4 hours to the next cit=
y
>and attend the DT gig, don't complain.
You don't know how lucky you are, I'd walk over broken glass, swim thru
shark infested waters, listen to Korn, if I could see DT in Australia.
=FE
gaz
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:09:46 EST
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: essential footware
Message-ID: <61.18b969e.25ddd9ba@aol.com>
In a message dated 02/17/2000 5:26:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< this other boot, the House of Blues in LA w/Ray Alder and
Bruce Dickinson sounds like the craziest gig ever, man! Does this
really exist?? >>
Meaning: did this show actually take place? Absolutely! Did Westwood One
actually record it? Yepper! Does it exist in boot form for public
consumption? Not that I know of, unfortunately. I know I'm not alone in
saying that I'd donate body parts for a recording of this show, but I've
never heard of anyone having it in trading circles. Anyone? Anyone?
Bueller?
- Matt T.
NP: Sanctuary "Into the Mirror Black"
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:12:01 EST
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Spock's what?!
Message-ID: <47.17ee525.25ddda41@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/17/00 5:25:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< let us give praise they didn't decide on Spock's Balls.. I don't wnat to
be privy to the discussion about the origin of that one... >>
haha! now, THAT would be a good conversation.
-Mike C.
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:16:37 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The SFAM review
Message-ID: <38AC8155.2A1CDA19@mol.com.mk>
http://www.rocrevue.com/revues/dream_theater7.html
> Musically, this CD encompasses the broadest range of music yet heard
> on a DT CD, from deranged shredding, to soulful David Gilmour style
> licks. .... "The Spirit Carries On" evokes shades of Pink Floyd
Mua-ha-ha, DIE ya non PF fans! :)))
--- I just could help itNP: Frank Zappa - Advance Romance
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:16:42 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5317 Message-ID: <44.1b35991.25dddb5a@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/17/00 5:25:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< "It is the boot where LaBrie sings "I wanna talk about lifelong mistakes, and you can tell your stepbrother I ({font: red, size 64}) SAAAAAIIIIIID SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO". >>
Speaking of this line, this kinda goes back to an old thread but I used to always think he said "I wanna talk about blackbelt mistakes" !!! -Mike C.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:41:08 -0500 From: "the apologist" <the_apologist@everonn.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Voices: The Hypnotherapist Message-ID: <003401bf79a0$7707ee80$bef589ce@asifalcon.com>
I thought I saw somebody ask who did the voice of the hypnotherapist on SFaM, and I don't know if that was answered yet or not. I didn't know at the time, but I just came across an interview with LaBrie that might shed some light...
Taken from HardRadio.com: "Vocally, there are a few cool things going on within this theatrical, cinematic record. There's a local New Jersey choir for which Jordan Rudess had done scores, as well as the soaring vocals of a woman James knows only as Theresa. She was mind-blowing. She doesn't know what a bad note is, this girl." Additionally, there's the part of the hypnotist, played by none other than legendary Rush producer Terry Brown. Him and I have struck up a really strong relationship in an musical sense," reveals James. So I asked him to come in and record my vocals for the Dream Theater album. And John Petrucci is going, "I wonder who we can get to play this part,' and I said "let's get Terry, man, he's got an accent, let's check him out!' And we did, and John is like, "yeah man! This guy's got the voice. Let's go for it!' So we asked him, and he said, "Sure! I'd love to do it! Put me there, man. Give me the microphone!' He actually ended up doing it up in Toronto, though."
Just thought I'd share.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:43:47 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: "No Holds barred distribution list":;, Subject: just a reminder Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000217184227.00a27dd0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
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-- Damon Fibraio, and new guide dog Melody email: dfibraio@home.com computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio every Tuesday night from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time. go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. Comedy on the Internet. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:58:42 -0800 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Richard Marx guitar Message-ID: <38AC8B32.B2C95E47@ucla.edu>
> I'm sorry, but I just cannot give my seal of approval to a guitar that > was endorsed by Richard Marx. :)
Well, if it doesn't work out, you can always give it to my mom, or maybe your mom. ;P
~~Amanda
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:13:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <mschnoor@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: first basses Message-ID: <20000218001331.20205.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com>
In the last Jam, KorgX3 wrote:
> I disagree, there. To me, starting on something shitty is the best way > to go. I wouldn't suggest a person learn to drive with a Ferrari. First, > if you're not even sure you'll like the instrument, a cheap $150 guitar > isn't a big loss.
Well... I didn't mean the level of "Ferrari" good. Nor did I intend to come across as an instrument snob. Learning to play is something that needs to be a process of inspiration and learning, as well as the routine work of figuring out which fingers go where, and how to maneuver around the instrument.
With the Harmony and Hondo series of instruments, I didn't find anything in that range that the construction or feel that I was looking for, even when I was shopping for my first bass. If budget is really a concern, then by all means get what you can afford, and if you plan on disposing of it later, then a disposable guitar is okay. But it's generally a better value to save a little more and get a good used instrument instead. Even a well-treated Epiphone, Samick or Dean would be fairly reasonable in the used range.
I've seen exceptions to every rule, but generally the cheapest instrument cuts a lot of corners somewhere. While truss rods and reinforced beams in the neck may not make much difference to a first-time buyer, who simply wants a $150 piece of wood with 4 strings, the eventual neck backbow and "S"-curves will drive them nuts later on when the bass's wood starts to give in to the forces of physics.
Simply "throwing away" this money isn't the best idea either. If the person becomes disappointed with their playing (or their instrument) they may give up. A slightly better instrument -- not top of the line, mind you, but just a bit more sturdy -- may enable them to keep the instrument for longer, and have more desire to play it. Although that's as predictable as the weather -- you can't make someone want to learn how to play anything. But a better instrument would give them a better chance at doing well.
I guess lately there have been a lot more guitars/basses made in the low-to-middle price range -- Dean, Samick, Epiphone, Cort, Schecter, some Ibanez, and others. You can buy a pretty good new guitar or bass for $350, and it will last a while and have decent tone. At this end of the price range of instruments, it's safe to say that an increase in price *can be* a good increase of quality, when compared to the $150 Harmony instruments.
Mostly, it's the little things that add up. The quality of the wood used makes a big difference. Softer maple is cheaper, but when it's in a neck, it doesn't hold up as well over time, unless you reinforce it somehow. The springs in the guitar tremolo also matter... for just a bit more, better springs will make sure the guitar is more likely to stay in tune.
On the other hand, a lot of musicians got started and found their inspiration with the cheap stuff. That's okay for them, but unless they have great drive and motivation, the quality of the instrument will eventually be a limit for them, and may sap their desire to keep playing and learning. If your guitar goes out of tune with every bar-chord, either you'll want to replace it or you'll just get tired of the sound and quit. It can go either way.
Generally, when I hear people describing the cheapest instruments they first owned, they start with something like "It was okay, but... " or "It did the job, but...". It's those little buts that add up and present themselves to new musicians. Just like buying your first car. If you buy something that constantly leaks oil and has trouble thinking about starting, will you be motivated to drive it for its own sake? Probably not. If you spend a little more and get something that lasts longer and runs smoother, will you consider making road-trips to see Dream Theater? Maybe.
> I notice my skill and enthusiasm toward playing improves each time I step > up. It's a drawn out motivational process. I don't dead end myself by > purchasing the best gear as soon as I start playing. Resell value or no.
True, but in a sense it's like dangling a carrot in front of yourself all the time. We can always want a "better" guitar, there's no question about that. But why start with something you will outgrow in a very short time? Why not stretch a little further and bite the carrot? Had you started with the Harmony strat copy, or perhaps the used Ibanez RG, maybe you would have been more motivated about learning back then, and you might have had more room to grow. I'm not suggesting you should have bought the Paul Reed Smith Santana model at first... that's just too much for a beginner. But an extra $50 to $100 for a used instrument can make a big difference, even if it's only subjective.
And resale value may or may not be important to you. For some people, the loss of money with buying a poor instrument and then trading up to a better one is worth the learning experience. For others, they will want to get as much value back from the first instrument as they can. In this case, a bit extra at the outset saves loss later. All instruments lose value over time -- that won't change, unless you get a collector's item and store it.
Here's where the analogy breaks down -- most things on a car can be replaced, for a price. Most instruments are pretty much set at that level of quality from the time they leave the assembly line. If you change pickups or replace some of the hardware, you can breathe new life into a well-constructed guitar, but if the construction is floppy it won't do much good. It's like throwing a supercharged V8 engine inside an AMC Pacer.
Higher price does not always equal higher quality. Some instruments are just plain overpriced for their level of construction and quality of tone. (Possibly Fender and Gibson Les Paul?) By that same token, some instruments are incredibly cheap for the high level of quality (Carvin, for example) that they have. There are so many exceptions to just about anything I (or anyone) can tell you about buying an instrument.
Your hands, ears and eyes need to be the ultimate judge of construction and quality. Get out there, in those dank little pawn shops, or in those gigantic well-lit music stores, and play anything you can. Play the $300 Hohner bass with 1 rusty pickup and the bad paint job. Play the $3000 Warwick bass made of woods whose names you can't pronounce. Play the Squier guitar with a stamped-metal, wiggly tremolo and soft maple. Play the Parker Fly guitar with a machined brass tremolo and composite body. Try everything else between, too, just so you don't get lost in the extremes.
> KorgX3 is now a complete bass player with his RBX6JM. :)
How is that, anyway? :)
===== -- Matthew A. Schnoor -- mschnoor@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:33:18 -0500 (EST) From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: OK, so I'm a middle class snob. Message-ID: <200002180133.UAA03677@optical.mindstorm.com>
A thousand monkeys in ytsejam@torchsong.com's basement typed:
Folks, I'd like to apoligize in advance to everyone on the list who's not an asshole. If the asshole quoted below wishes to carry this conversation any further, I will take it to private e-mail. However, I feel that it is my patriotic duty to defend Americans against ignorant, hateful, intolerant rants such as the one replied to below (yet conveniently left out of this post).
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:24:35 +1100 > From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5315 > > I didnt say all Americans I said American snobs. If you choose to put yourself > in that category, then I do mean you, Digital Man!
There's really no sense in insulting an entire nation full of people, and then playing semantics afterward. If you think that only Americans (snobs or not) are capable of laughing at death, say so. If you think that's a bad character trait, say so. But if you're going to take a stand on your bigotry, don't back down just because someone challenges you. Before, I thought you were just ignorant. Now, I realize you're a coward, too.
> > I love how messages like this try to make *me* feel inferior, like > > it's *my* fault > > Everyones out to get you Digital Man!
The quote above wasn't even in reply to your post. If you want to engage in a discussion, stick to replying to things that are part of that discussion. If you just want to see your name in print, try taking credit for the recent DDoS attacks. That'll get ya famous.
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Now, where was I? Oh, yeah...
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:04:47 -0500 (EST) > From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> > Subject: Music by jammers > > Since somebody on the list had requested hearing what jammers had done and
Had someone? I missed it. OK, I was in a band from February till about June or so. That's when my keyboardist and I saw Ice Age at NEARFest, and realized that not only were we DT clones, but by some tragic accident we were Ice Age clones as well. (Right down to the guitarists' long, curly black hair, Ibanez, and Tri-Axis. Shit, our guitarist was from KP, and claimed to drive the same car and have the same favorite sandwich as JP. He also got really upset when he found out that I knew more about the band than he did, and started telling our bandmates that most of his DT stories were bullshit. Yeah, he's a little touched.) So, anyway, we kicked out the guitarist, and then the drummer quit, and now we're a totally different band. But if you'd like to hear what four kids from LI who listened to too much Rush, Dream Theater, and Yes right before writing music sound like, shoot me an e-mail, and I'll tell ya where you can get some mp3's. (PLEASE -- no one publicize the info. We're talking about my personal machine, and I don't want to get slashdotted.)
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:05:15 -0500 (EST) From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: First bass, first tape trade, ... Message-ID: <200002180205.VAA04694@optical.mindstorm.com>
A thousand monkeys in ytsejam@torchsong.com's basement typed:
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:53:35 -0700 > From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> > Subject: Snoopy's bio. > > Having done the research, here's the scoop on Snoopy:
You're a sick poodle, Korg. :)
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:30:18 -0800 (PST) > From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <mschnoor@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: first basses & Richard Marx > > Folks, I'm only going to say this once. If you want to start playing guitar > or bass, start with something good. Trust me, Hondo and Harmony and > Cheapshit instruments have POOR resale value in the used market. You'll
Who would think about that, though, just starting out playing? You're not thinking about "Gee, if I get the PRS, then I can sell it when I get *really* good!". You're thinking about "Gee, if I get the Mexican Strat, I'll only have five bucks left to take my girlfriend to the mall this weekend. Better get the Harmony, so we can see a movie, too."
I can't tell you how much I agonized over buying a Stick. (Well, I think that you, Gerb, probably know already. But fer the restayez...) I'd been playing bass for over 10 years, and had finally started a grown up job, and I didn't want to drop the cabbage on the Stick in case I couldn't play it. I can't see a high-school kid with no experience on anything other than the recorder in second grade shelling out $600 on an I-Been-Had or a Strat, when there's My First Guitar in the corner for a buck fifty.
Then again, when I started playing bass, the radio was still important, so I didn't have to shop for looks. (You know, I saw a BC Rich warlock *bass* in Guitar Center last weekend? Yuck.) Also, since none of my friends were really the middle-class snobs I turned out to be, all I got was "Cool! A bass!", not "Eww, a Harmony." I've seen peer pressure do nasty shit to kids. All the high-schoolers around me are Yankee fans. I'll bet you dollars to doughuts that not one of them can name the first baseman before Martinez.
Then again, all this is my opinion, and it's no more or less valid than Gerb's.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:40:16 -0500 > From: "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pulaskifurniture.com> > Subject: OT: Last KISS? (was:Re: Jericho/DT/KISS) > > [Mike C]>am I the only one here who's completely sick of KISS??
Am I the only one who never liked them to begin with?
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:18:24 -0500 > From: "Bernard, Chris" <CBernard@pulaskifurniture.com> > Subject: RE: Boots (to the head. Nananana...) > > How does one go about beginning to collect these tapes? (CDs?)
Many traders (myself included, when I had time to trade) will accept blanks in trade to get a new trader on his feet. I generally did 2-for-1; in other words, you send me three blank tapes, I send one back with a boot on it. (Send me three crappy blank tapes, you get three crappy blank tapes back. :) After a couple of those trades, you generally have enough to start trading boots for boots.
> Not saying that this something i definitely want > to get into; but, OTOH, getting live recordings of my favorite bands is > quite an appealing endeavor. So much to learn............
If you have the time, the tape, and the inclination, DO IT. I can't tell you how cool it felt the first time I heard a tape of a show I was at.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:04:54 -0700 > From: "Tom Baddley" <tbaddley@aircell.com> > Subject: Cool new service! > > Check this service out. It allows you to transfer money directly from any > credit (or debit) card to another person's account. I'll never have to mess > with mailing out money orders again, or going to the grocery store to > MoneyGram a friend some cash!
That's fucking amazing! And there's no catch?!
> It's got kinda a Multi-Level Marketing slant to it.
oh. I missed the cc: to the Gullible Bastards list in your headers.
> Anyway...here's the link:
Naturally, there's a web page associated. I'm starting to get the shit scared out of me with all the personal, legal, financial, and medical information out there on the web these days. Sure, there are laws against cracking, but there aren't yet any laws against not making your business crack-proof. Until Jeff Bezos has to choose between digging into his own pockets and protecting my credit card number, I'm driving to Borders.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:53:55 -0500 (EST) > From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: DT Management > Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.10002171653130.4170-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu> > > Hey folx, > > Long time since I posted on here......
Hey! Where's my tapes!?... Oh, God, sorry. Flashback.
God, I was in the Fantasia diner with Al, Bafu, Pellaz, Skadz, Wacky, Hairball, Syrinx, and a bunch of other mental cases all at the same time... and lived to tell about it! That's it. We have to organize YtseCon IV. It's been too damn long. Someone see if the Fantasia is available. :)
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:17:59 PST > From: "Sloppy Joe69" <sloppyjoe_69@hotmail.com> > Subject: Much props to yo daddy. > > I hates 2 break it 2 yo like dis, but, I think yo mama be in need of an > appendectomy, bitch! > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
*Now* will you agree with me that free e-mail is a bad thing?
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:16:41 -0500 > From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com> > Subject: Re: Fan Club Christmas CDs > > I think giving it to the end of this month is satisfactory. After > that, I email Nicole and ask that another be sent. That seems fair.
Why is everyone ragging on Kirby? It's not like she bought Mike Bahr's computers and is chugging these things out in her basement. She's the point of contact between you and Europe that eliminates the necessity for you to send money overseas, with all the insurance and cost of IRCs and whatnot.
I think that Kirby donating her free time to the community to provide a service like this is above and beyond fair. What's not fair is people (and I don't mean to get personal here, Rob; your post was merely convenient) expecting CDNow-type service from a volunteer who's an ocean away from the operation. Everyone chill and let Kirby have a personal life. If it gets to be Memorial Day, and we don't have CDs, then I imagine that even Kirby would consider our complaints well-justified.
Phew. Stop pissing me off, people! I'm tired of ranting! :)
d "The Music Man's got a small head. Wonder what the Music Woman thinks about that." man
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:55:03 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Why did I bother resubbing? Message-ID: <38ACA677.5033A2BF@imap1.asu.edu>
Linus Akesson lost his security blanket to a gang of head banging grandmothers:
> > "...Open your eyes, Nicholas!" *FARRRRRRRRRRRRRT <squirt>*. > Really, I have listened to Adam Sandler's albums, and I don't think what you > wrote is in any way representative of his humour.
I'd hope not. I don't want to be a Jewish comedian. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the Jews, it's just been done too many times. Look at the freakin' comedy awards for every film. If you can name enough gentiles who won an Oscar for writing a comedy to facilitate the use of BOTH hands, you're a better man than I.
But a comedian who listens to Dream Theater? How often do you find those....
> I don't think it's > representative of any kind of humour in fact.
You want to email me privately and tell me what exactly is humourous and what is not? That way I'll be sure not to offend thee. :) NOT!!!
> By the way, did you do > www.farts.com, or are there actually anyone else on this planet who thinks this > is funny?
On behalf of the middle class low brow neanderthals on this list, I quoteth Robin Williams in his underrated performance in Good Morning Vietnam in retort:
"You have to be in the most dire need of a blowjob than any man in history."
Or something like that. In high class speak,
My humble attempt at sharing a thought which I found entertaining and humorous was submitted to this list in hopes of entertaining thousands of others who might find the connection between the farting psychiatrist skit from Adam Sandler's album and the psychiatrist portrayed in Dream Theater's "Metropolis Pt. 2." equally amusing. This was in no means an attempt to imitate, reincarnate, or masturbate the comedic stylings of Adam Sandler, and being accused as such has hurt my feelings. Yes, you sir, have hurt my feelings. You like hate. I like muffins. With blueberries and sugar sprinkles. You probably don't listen to heavy metal either, and I'M OKAY WITH THAT, because, we can't all be perfect and low brow and accept people and their penis size for what they were born. Muffins do not hate. Muffins provide an excellent source for sugar and innuendous jokes among male colleagues. I like my blueberry muffins. Did you wake up to the sound of a train running through your living room this morning? Statistics have shown that people who wake up and start their day with a locomotive devastating their home properties develop a higher state of paranoia and angry rage by 10:00 than any other minority on the planet by at least 90%. I am not here to judge, because, I love you. And because I love you, I fart in your general direction!
Whilst MY joke was directed towards a Dream Theater song which many of us can't get enough of (GO SEE THIS CONCERT!!!!), you, sir posted a lengthy addendum/correction to a Linus/Lucy/Snoopy/Peanuts "Where Are They Now" thread that has gone on far too long. I mean really people, at least sprinkle a joke or two about John Myung being a mute in there somewhere. This a a Dream Theater list for cryin' out loud.
Pull that pole, Pull that pole, Pull that pole straight out your ass All that it takes, is a grin and a beer Now it's time... to end this message HEEEEEEEEEERE! COME ON PEOPLE!
~Eckie says KNOW YOUR ROLE AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:11:52 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: unsubbing Message-ID: <20000218021152.67212.qmail@hotmail.com>
It seems that no one knows how to unsub from this list, and I highly doubt that they're just gonna stumble upon www.dreamtheater.net (or wherever) and learn how. So how 'bout just putting unsubbing instructions at the beginning of each jam? That seems like a simple enough solution... -Fran/Banjoman
np - DT "Bad" Mp3
p.s. Anyone goin' to the primus show in providence friday? Look for a hippie in a 'leftover salmon' t shirt dancing his ass off and generally making a fool of himself. That's me =^) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- We blew a fuse with a BALLAD?!?!?! - Scott Henderson, after doing just that ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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