YTSEJAM Digest 5330
Today's Topics:
1) Re:DT in Nashville?
by "R.Scott Kale" <SBASMAN@HOME.NET>
2) Kool review for DT
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
3) RE: Whew (......and other stuff)
by INNSOUL@aol.com
4) Shine on You Crazy Bastard...
by "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
5) Re: Dan Huff Thread
by Tom Tubbiola <ttubbiola@earthlink.net>
6) GIANT and Singing
by INNSOUL@aol.com
7) Tradewinds
by INNSOUL@aol.com
8) Re: How old-a-jammer are you...?
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
9)
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
10) Re: GIANT
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
11) Speak To Me, Long Beach!
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5329
by InDiGoWiCkEdGiRL@aol.com
13) Re: Ytse vets
by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5328
by Bezerk02@aol.com
15) off list
by herr0155 <herr0155@tc.umn.edu>
16) Ancient Relics
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
17) Singing and YtseMemories....
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
18) Re: The Gathering's "Superheat"
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
19) new Strato
by Drew Schinzel <schi2299@fredonia.edu>
20) Re: how "old school" are you?/Zappas on Conan
by "Dale R. Newberry" <tack@sockets.net>
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5328
by "Jon Kretschmer" <jkretsch@indiana.edu>
22) Re: How old school *are* you?
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
23) Re: Ancient Relics
by "Michael G. Mattingly" <mgmattingly@juno.com>
24) Re: Nostril filled up? / Old School-ness / LiT Video
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
25) Re: Zappa kids
by Fett2002@aol.com
26) Re: Megadeth
by Fett2002@aol.com
27) Transatlantic Preordering!
by Chad Hutchinson <chad@ghostland.com>
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:52:30 -0600
From: "R.Scott Kale" <SBASMAN@HOME.NET>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re:DT in Nashville?
Message-ID: <38B1C1AB.77CE356D@HOME.NET>
Greetings,
When is Dream Theater going to play in Nashville Tennessee? There are a ton of fans here and nobody wants to drive to Atlanta. Please tell me that it is going to be soon!!!!!
rsk
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:02:45 -0800 (PST)
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Kool review for DT
Message-ID: <20000221230245.9188.qmail@web2006.mail.yahoo.com>
There is a kool review of SFaM at blistering.com The guy
that wrote it gave a very high opinion of the album. You
can get right to it by going here
http://www.blistering.com/reviews/album/cd_68.shtml
John Parks
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:03:32 EST
From: INNSOUL@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: Whew (......and other stuff)
Message-ID: <b0.1a7d468.25e31e44@aol.com>
> Personally I love the prog genre, but I don't go into all these 'prog'
bands which are > basically just copies of other bands (like DT). I would
rather here a band slow down > on the chops and do something actually
progressive.
::claps:: YES!!!!! THANK YOU! I was beginning to think I was the only
person who felt that way!
> Lots of people on this list get pissed at the stereotype of metal as
"screaming, > guitar solos, and dungeons and dragons lyrics," but then
they're perfectly willing to > toss around the same stupid, easy stereotypes
about any other kind of music. It's > silly.
You mean that's NOT what metal is? :) j/k
Music is like anything else. Either you like it, or you don't and feed into
an uncontrollable urge to knock it down. I just hope that one day EVERYBODY
understands that!
I choose freewill.
Sean
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/music/MoneyForTheToll">Money For The Toll</A
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:10:28 -0800
From: "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Shine on You Crazy Bastard...
Message-ID: <024401bf7cc0$d88c1f50$305ad9cf@gorilla.it.earthlink.net>
Brad Plumb wrote:
>Imagine Shine on You Crazy DIamond with Roger Waters singing correctly....
>*shudder*
Umm, I think I'll stick with David Gilmour singing it... But your point is
still taken :-)
Paul
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:14:41 -0800
From: Tom Tubbiola <ttubbiola@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Dan Huff Thread
Message-ID: <38B1C6E0.A50175F5@earthlink.net>
If you've never heard "Last of the Runaways" by Giant, you really should. The sound and production on this CD are flawless. The drum sounds alone are enough to make the album, but the guitar sound is HUGE!!!!!!!! Check it out.
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:19:28 EST
From: INNSOUL@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: GIANT and Singing
Message-ID: <df.193888e.25e32200@aol.com>
> Dann Huff was NO pop singer. He was the guitarist and singer for Giant,
who were > a fine rock/hard rock band, if you'd bothered to get some facts,
or listened to their > music you'd know this.
> Tell me what hit's they had ?
"Last Of The Runaways" is a great album! Unfortunately, hey only had one
"hit" off the album, and were never spoken of again. How is their second
album?
Somebody mentioned LaBrie's vocals earlier (I'm slow). I think his best
vocal stuff has been outside of Dream Theater. His performances on Sheer
Heart Attack and One Vision on the Queen tribute (Dragon Attack), as well as
The Explorer's Club CD are outstanding!
I've been disputed many times for what I'm about to say, but I think
LaBrie's best vocals on a Dream Theater album are definitely SFAM! Not only
is he relaxed, but he's got that Roger Waters vibe down perfect at the
beginning of "The Spirit Carries On".
> What the hell is a nervous flashlight?
Too funny. Maybe it's one of those small flashlights who feels
inadequate going into dreamland with a group of big flashlights?
Sean
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/music/MoneyForTheToll">Money For The Toll</A
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:19:29 EST
From: INNSOUL@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Tradewinds
Message-ID: <45.1187c92.25e32201@aol.com>
I'm not gonna post a review or anything like that, but all I have to say is
that these guys put on the best performance I've ever seen from them! Tons
and tons and tons and tons of energy!
Looking forward to seeing them again!
Sean
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/music/MoneyForTheToll">Money For The Toll</A
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:30:37 -0500
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: How old-a-jammer are you...?
Message-ID: <38B1CA9D.78308A9C@wezl.org>
I've been here since late 93' (around October or November) just a bit after
I&W was released...damn that was a long time ago!!!
David Ware wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Andrew asked:
> >/me wants to find out how many people there are that are REALLY old
> >jammers
>
> Well I can't remember exactly when I subbed, but I'm guessing somewhere
> around early 1995, probably makes me an old timer (in the big scheme of
> things)....
>
> Ho-hum,
>
> Dave (a UK jammer - who just recieved his tickets for the Nottingham
> Rock City gig).
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:26:36 PST
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Message-ID: <20000221232636.67288.qmail@hotmail.com>
umm, who called it a newsletter?
-Banjoman
could anyone give me any direction on how to unsubscribe to this so called
newsletter? would reall appreciate it greatly!
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:57:50 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: GIANT
Message-ID: <005001bf7cc7$779d5900$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
> Tell me what hit's they had ?
Their only big hit was "I'll See You In My Dreams."
> "Last Of The Runaways" is a great album! Unfortunately, hey only had
>"hit" off the album, and were never spoken of again. How is their second
>album?
I consider "Time to Burn" to be about equally as good. The songwriting and
production were very similar to "Last of the Runaways." Lots of memorable
songs, they just didn't get any radio hits.
Another band in a similar vein as Giant that was a one-hit wonder, yet their
album was completely excellent was "Alias." Remember them? "I need you
now... More Than Words Can Say... I need you now..." And then there's
Glass Tiger... :) One of my favorite 80's bands. Their "Diamond Sun" album
is more than worth the $2.99 you can often find it in the bargain bins for.
-- KorgX3 loves cheesy old 80's music.------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 00:55:12 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Speak To Me, Long Beach! Message-ID: <v04220805b4d77ecaeaea@[192.168.1.1]>
>I wonder if anybody knows a http site which contains a mp3 of the >original demo >of "Speak to me" (not the live version that was on the 5 years video). Please >tell me in the jam or private. This song is GOD, but as I am a poor german >student it is hard for me to get Japan imports, so there will be no different
Well, if you really want Speak To Me, then why can't I find your name in my member database? If you like that song, join and get the Xmas CD NOW. Look at the URL below. JETZT!
If you hurry you'll even get your CD earlier than the Americans!
(Just kidding, remember folks, it's not the fault of the DTIFC if the USPS or whoever else delays your package. As long as you don't want to pay for extra air mail fees you'll have to live with the shit that can happen with surface mail! Please give them a break and wait some more time.)
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:06:21 EST From: InDiGoWiCkEdGiRL@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5329 Message-ID: <d2.11d3f90.25e32cfd@aol.com>
can i possibly be the youngest jammer (15)??? i remember someone mentioning that he was a junior in high school, but im only a sophmore!! oh well, im still going to see DT here in NYC in just 5 more days... what a great experience this will be...and yes, i also got into DT with SFAM, just to let you know. I can't wait to see all the other jammers at the show! Mari
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:04:10 -0500 From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ytse vets Message-ID: <12C44096668E3D11DA4C0005B813E913@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
I remember the Hootenanny :-)
I joined like, about two years ago, around May of 98 (when I was still using the "mpm2112" address - those of you from the IRC chat should recognize me :P), and I think I came in right in the middle of that whole thread. I seem to remember Babs, slightly. I missed George"FUCKING DIE"Farbers, but heard enough about him to get the idea, and the Bahr Wars were still going on. Memories...
Matt ============================= Now you've got your voice Your own speech Don't wait 'till Someone else agrees -Rafael Bittencourt, Angra ============================= Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:42:36 EST From: Bezerk02@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5328 Message-ID: <17.21498b3.25e3357c@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/21/2000 4:04:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< >/me wants to find out how many people there are that are REALLY old >jammers >>
Well I was on originally in college from 92-94, then i was without a computer for a few years, so I have been on again since Jan. 98 on this current run.
Aaron (Who can't wait til March1 to drive down to Atlanta to see the boys for the first time!!!!)
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:40:09 -0600 From: herr0155 <herr0155@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: off list Message-ID: <38B1DAE9.1FF5@tc.umn.edu>
please take me off of your mailing list, or tell me how to un-subscribe to the ytsejam mailinglist.
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:03:10 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Ancient Relics Message-ID: <200002220103.RAA16729@gms.gmsnet.com>
You've been around a long time if you remember Brian Cox still actively trading on the list...
/me rummages through his kbibb mail talking about moving off of ax.com.
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:10:18 -0600 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Singing and YtseMemories.... Message-ID: <B4D73E1A.2D8C%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
> Well, if he knows his shit, that's only because he has a whole room full of > it. Quantity is not quality, it usually just means your tastes aren't very > discriminating.
Hahaha, "tastes aren't very discriminating" = "that Philistine doesn't listen to the same four bands that I do." What a crock.
> From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> > To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: Re: more singing > Message-ID: <002001bf7cb3$a056da60$0200010a@steve> > > >> This is bull. You can write a good story without the schlock that SFaM is >> rife with. It's not just an issue of being ambiguous or deep. It's an > issue >> of there being a poorly written narrative here. > > Ok, there are parts of it you deem "schlock." Great. > > It's not just an issue of being ambiguous or deep. It's not an issue of > there being a poorly written narrative here. It's an issue of "my opinion > beats your opinion."
Well, obviously it is to some extent. We're talking about an art here, so it's definitely subjective. However, to someone who's read much, or studied literature, or even listened to many good lyrics, it should be obvious that SFaM could have been done better. If you don't agree with that, I'm just going to have to recommend you take a break from the singing exercises there and do some reading other than USA Today.
>> Blah, blah, blah, blah. Sheesh. Correctly my ass. Correctly for the kind of >> music you're doing, sure. But lemme tell you, if you sang that way to most >> rock songs, 99% of the people who heard it would laugh. It just doesn't fit. > > Bull. That is purely speculative, and only based on the fact that you and > some like-minded people you know don't like it.
Heh, if you insist. Let's think about this. How many people listen to stuff where the singer has "good technique?" How many people listen to stuff where the singer has poor technique but a lot of feel? I think the answer is obvious by looking at sales charts. Fact is, most people put feel over technique. They care about what it sounds like, not how it's done.
>> To say that's the ONLY correct way to sing for ANY kind of music is arrogant >> and assinine. Think of any rock band that really gets you going...Led Zep, >> Megadeth, Rush, Slayer, Anthrax, whoever it might be. It would not work with >> "correct" singing. > > I went to McDonald's drive-through today. I pulled right into the exit and > ordered my food through my passenger side window. They gave me my food and > I paid. Then I drove away through the entrance. It worked, but that > doesn't mean I was doing it correctly. Vibrato IS correct. Lots of things > work, whether you go about them the right way or the wrong way.
Oh please, now you're being ridiculous. First, that WOULDN'T work. They wouldn't let you order from the payment window (trust me I've tried), and if anyone else was in the line you'd hit 'em head on. So it's not analogous. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy, Stevie. If you're going to argue, put some thought into it. More importantly, you still just can't get past the central issue. Tell me, please, exactly why vibrato is "correct." Let's define this before we go any further.
> Ok, fine. You don't like it. It makes ME laugh when people who think > someone being good at something is somehow a joke. It's pretty pitiful when > people feel that way, but I guess ignorance is bliss.
Nice try, buddy. I'm ignorant? Once again you shoot yourself in the foot by throwing out things you can't back up. I've been in choirs my entire life. I've studied with a nationally known PhD and a vocal coach who herself studied at Texas with some internationally known teachers and has performed at Carnegie Hall. I attend operas. I know exactly what we're talking about here, I just don't think there's any reason to enforce one set of standards on other types of music.
> I feel the same way. I just don't understand it. I will NEVER hear a > musician play/sing something with good technique and wonder "why is he > trying so hard?" I hate this mentality that trying to be good at something > is a bad thing.
I won't either, but when somebody is obviously just showing off, putting some marvelous "technique" in a place that does shit for the song, I'll wonder why he's trying so hard...to gratify his ego.
> From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> > > Well, if it's just one nostril or the other, you're probably ok. If it's > ONE all the time, that could be a problem, but if it switches, it's nothing > to really worry about.
Nope, not at all. It's a natural function of your body, the two nostrils don't work at the same time. They switch off. Don't know why this is, but it is. Strange the way the body works.
>> As far as I'm concerned there is no correct way to do anything in music, >> despite what some people say. > > That explains a lot.
Heh, yeah, it does tell you a lot about my perspective. I think you're being petty and small-minded to try and imply that I'm stupid for thinking that way, however. Face it. It's an art. It's subjective. The only reason anything is considered "correct" is become somebody once decided that that was the best way to do it, and started teaching it that way, and other people picked up on it, and it became tradition. There are some things that are good guidelines; for example, if you only pick guitar with downstrokes, you're not going to get very far. But as for being correct...well...if your musical vision doesn't require you to get that far, it doesn't really matter, does it.
> Yup. I can't say much for the other bands, cause I think Rush is great how > they are. Don't listen to any Slayer or Anthraxx(mostly because there's no > singing). Led Zep and Megadeth, however, would both be VASTLY improved by a > talented singer. My opinion.
Hah, Geddy Lee screeches like a whore getting a clitorectomy on the early Rush. If Anthrax isn't singing, neither is that crap. As for Zep and Deth, I'm gonna have to agree with Gaz here...you might think they'd sound better, but for most people, that would kill the band's sound. The only reason 'deth got anywhere to begin with, I firmly believe, is because of the unique sound that Dave's voice gave them. If they got someone who sang "correctly" they'd sound like 40 other 80's speed bands.
> From: "gaz" <graham@renegade2K.com> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Re: How big a boy are ya? - Roy D. Mercer > Message-ID: <200002220124.UAA12473@sampa.simpleweb.com.br> > > Aern't you forgetting one important part of ytsejam history ? > The Al vs Pat tape wars ? > > Who can ever forget that peice of treasured ytse memories........
Heh, the guy who posted those private emails from Portnoy and then ran off pouting when he got flamed was pretty classic too. That was fairly recent though.
-Brian
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:23:41 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: The Gathering's "Superheat" Message-ID: <38B1F32D.560BB2E5@yunque.net>
David Dixon wrote:
> What do y'all know about The Gathering's "Superheat"? It seems to be a > greatest hits-type disc - is there anything special about it? It was just > released last month... > > Thanks, > > David
Its a live album, most of the songs are off their latest disc.. its very good, specially if youre a fan.
--
Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back. Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind. Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:28:37 -0500 (EST) From: Drew Schinzel <schi2299@fredonia.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: new Strato Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.10.10002212022310.11967-100000@bluedevil.cc.fredonia.edu>
Hey, speaking of that new Stratovarius, I've got a question - Is it just like all the other Strato releases ? I mean, I love the band and all, but the past few releases have been nearly exactly the same style, so owning more than a couple of albums by them is almost redundant.
So how similar is it to Visions and Destiny ? Do they still follow that repetitive fast/ballad/fast/ballad pattern ? Are the ballads still all about fulfilling your dreams and taking advantage of your youth and all that crap ? I think they need to tackle some new lyrical terrain if you catch my meaning.
Again, don't get me wrong.. I love Stratovarius, and if I had known they had a new album coming out I probably woulda preordered it, but since I didn't, I wouldn't mind hearing how it rates compared to the older ones.
DTC: The Cleveland show rocked ! I have to echo nearly every other jammer who's been to the shows when I say it's the best concert I've ever been to. Dunno if this has been mentioned, but did anyone else (at Cleveland or any other shows) catch the bit of Biaxident that Jordan threw into the mix ? I was hoping they'd break into Another Dimension, but I certainl ain't gonna complain about anything. :)
Thanks !
Drew
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:17:32 -0600 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <tack@sockets.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: how "old school" are you?/Zappas on Conan Message-ID: <95118398501@mail.socket.net>
Damn, I scored on nearly all of those on that list of old school jammers. I didn't even realize I had been on that long until i read that list (I didn't attend a ytsecon and I don't own any clothing with arastar.com on it, but I was around when those happened. I do own an ax.com shirt, though). Shit, i guess it's been about, maybe 5 or 6 years now? I lost count after the servers started changing :). Oh yeah, I remember, I joined the list right about the time that the Subconscious bootleg was put out. About the Zappa bros. on Conan, I've got audio of it, and I remember seeing a clip on a show a few years ago or so (maybe not that long) of it, and yes, it was as funny as you can imagine (just seeing/hearing John Tesh playing "The Wizard" is a riot :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:10:28 -0500 From: "Jon Kretschmer" <jkretsch@indiana.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5328 Message-ID: <002a01bf7ce2$5f3623e0$a2549f95@willkie.indiana.edu>
Been on since 600 or so - back in the arastar.com days. When would that have been, 93? 94? God thats a lot of jams. I think I unsubbed once for about three months. Call me sick. Go ahead. :)
Jon
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:36:21 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: How old school *are* you? Message-ID: <38B20435.FE56A452@ivorygate.com>
Digital Man wrote: > > You're a senior member of the Jam if: > * You laugh when you see [deleted --kbibb] :-)
> * You own any clothing with ytsejam@arastar.com on it bzzzt... never picked up one of those... joined the list just before the switch off of arastar... mid 95?
> * You fondly remember Hairball, Babs, or Jeff Chew ("where are you > now...") Babs is still here I think... "Hello, everyone it's..." :)
> * You remember irc.dreamt.org before the op-wars necessitated bots > * The coolest "young person" you've ever "met" was Ben Laussade ouch... two strikes... never met Ben in person, and maybe that's a good thing :P
> * You remember Bafu's farewell post to arastar.com > * Syrinx and Ibanez playing "The Silent Man" still makes you bust out > laughing > * You know why the Ytsejam's welcome message forbids religious debate > * You know what a hootenanny is > * You attended a YtseCon where band members actually attended (and > that's before *my* time) Yip, all of those ring a bell... Even attended YtseCon I... where John Myung really did "talk" to people.... hehe
> * You need to take off your shoes and socks to count all the Ytsejam > romances (failed and otherwise) that you can think of I ain't even touching that one... :)
-- ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:44:59 -0500 From: "Michael G. Mattingly" <mgmattingly@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ancient Relics Message-ID: <20000221.224500.-320951.0.mgmattingly@juno.com>
> You've been around a long time if you remember Brian Cox still > actively > trading on the list... > I think he mostly trades " Phish " at the moment. Anyone else trade DAT? I'd love some digi Fates or DT.
Cheers, Gregory
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:08:28 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Nostril filled up? / Old School-ness / LiT Video Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002212259100.86692-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
First of all, to the guy who asked about having a nostril that was filled up (sorry, I searched for your message but couldn't find it buried among the 630 messages in my inbox):
I wouldn't worry about it at all. The only time you should be feeling ANY resonance in your nasal cavities (when singing "properly" :P) is when you're saying nasal consonants, such as n's or m's. Even then, if you only have one plugged up, it's nothing to worry about, as long as the cavity can be resonant at the same time. Any other time, that is when you have sound going, you should be feeling a resonance in your cheekbones or just next to your sinuses, but never IN your nose itself.
A good way to tell if you're doing it right (or in the right direction at least) is to close your nostrils with your fingers while you're singing. If the sound you're producing doesn't change in the slightest, you're probably heading in the right direction.
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I guess I can't count as an old-school guy. Too bad. But I have to say that I'm proud to now be one of the most recognizable names on the jam. :) Maybe now Mike will recognize me by name - when I saw him last (the first time I met him) last May, he didn't recognize my name, but I'd only been on the jam for six months or so, and I didn't post with NEARLY the frequency that I do now.
It'd be neat if he knew who I was :) Especially when I tell him that Dave Hatlee (of MP.com webmaster fame) is going to be handing him a MIDI file of ACoS that I did as soon as I get it finished. Heh.
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I just got the LiT video today (FINALLY!), and I must say that it is probably the better of the two videos, by FAR. I am supremely impressed with the quality of sound on this video, and I have to say that James's voice has definitely changed in the eight or so years since this video was released - he's DEFINITELY gone down in his range... His tone too.
And JESUS CHRIST, I never expected to see BREASTS on a Dream Theater video! Hahaha, that was hilarious, Kevin Moore signing some woman's breasts.
/me rewinds the video...
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "Prayer has no place in school, just like facts have no place in religion." - Superintendant Chalmers from "The Simpsons" -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:32:41 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Zappa kids Message-ID: <e0.17f4e28.25e36b69@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/21/00 4:04:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< The reason the Zappas are on TV so much is because they're wacky. Dweezil= =20 and Ahmed usually have me rolling when they do talkshows. >>
Well, I guess we just have to disagree here. Personally, I don't find any one of them the least bit entertaining or funny. Neither do a vast majority of TV viewers either, judging by the fact that everytime one of them gets a show it gets horrible ratings and gets canceled within a month. Why networks think that people like them is beyond me, but if you get something entertaining out of them, then more power to ya cause I don't. -Mike C.
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:42:48 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Megadeth Message-ID: <b8.247340d.25e36dc8@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/21/00 4:04:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< I can handle one of my favorite metal bands, such as Megadeth, straying from metal a bit to try something new. But Risk is just horrible, by any music standards. >>
Personally, I like Risk. And Cryptic Writings for that matter. They don't go in any new directions or anything, but I think they have some cool congs and some cool guitar work on them (well, Cryptic Writings more than Risk). Although Risk is too short and I prefer their classic stuff. My favorite album by them is definitely Rust in Peace (in fact, it is one of my top 5 fav albums of all time). Peace Sells...But Who's Buying is also a great album, and So Far So Good So What is pretty good even though the production is shitty and it sounds half finished (I think they through that Anarky in the UK cover on there just so they wouldn't have to write another song). The first album is just a first album (nothing special) and Youthanasia and Countdown to Extinction are kinda lousy. Just thought I'd give my Megadeth opinions since a lot of people seem to be doing that. -Mike C.
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:45:31 -0500 From: Chad Hutchinson <chad@ghostland.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Transatlantic Preordering! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000221234531.00793e50@pop.fast.net>
Hello!
Please read this important pre-order information for Transatlantic!
TRANSATLANTIC The new project featuring Neal Morse (Spock's Beard), Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater), Roine Stolt (Flower Kings) and Pete Trewavas (Marillion) is now available for preorder for $14.99. The album will be released by Radiant Records/Metal Blade in the United States on March 21. Also, the 2CD Special Edition version of the album will be released in Europe on April 21 ($22.50). Get your reservations in today to make sure you get your copy!
Sounds clips of the album are available at the Radiant Records site.
Make sure to catch Transatlantic at NEARfest 2000 on June 17-18 in Bethlehem, PA! Go to http://www.nearfest.com for all the details as tickets are going fast!
SPOCK'S BEARD In addition to the Transatlantic CD, the new live Spock's Beard album, "Don't Try This at Home," is also available for preorder ($14.99). This performance was taken from the European tour of last year.
Follow one of these links to place your order today!
http://www.radiantrecords.com http://www.spocksbeard.com
Thanks!
Chad Hutchinson Webmaster, Spocks' Beard and Radiant Records
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