YTSEJAM Digest 5333
Today's Topics:
1) Apologies to Palpatine
by "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
2) need cd reccommendations
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5331
by Fett2002@aol.com
4) re: Vocals, Drums
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
5) DT in DC
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
6) Re: the simpsons
by "Michael G. Mattingly" <mgmattingly@juno.com>
7) Oh jeez....
by "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
8) Re: SFAM ending
by Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
9) The Gathering's "Superheat"
by Charlie Farrell <charles.farrell@tesco.net>
10) Re: SFAM ending
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5332
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) Re: Oh jeez....
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5332
by Barbara B <babs@pop.geneseo.edu>
14) asdf
by "Bill Huston" <HUSTON@iomega.com>
15) DC Show setlist .. some thoughts .. get there!
by dwsenko@us.ibm.com
16) Re: Vocals
by "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu>
17) Re: Simple DOES NOT = good. Necessarily.
by "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5332
by IAmClay777@aol.com
19) Splooge Factor Threshold Exceeded
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
20) Re: the simpsons
by "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu>
21) Re: the simpsons
by Erik Wahlen <mva@sbbs.se>
22) Tickets needed for Boston show
by Ryan Roehrich <ryanscott@mindless.com>
23) Tell me about the past, grampa
by MusicSnob@aol.com
24) santana and mclaughlin
by Bobby Tufino <slimegod@bellsouth.net>
25) RE: santana and mclaughlin
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:07:32 -0800
From: "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Apologies to Palpatine
Message-ID: <007301bf7d5f$b09a2380$305ad9cf@gorilla.it.earthlink.net>
Why does that look like it's spelled wrong?
Oh well, Brad Plumb wrote:
>Roger sings the high parts. In fact, the reason there is a different
>vocalist on Have A Cigar is because when they recorded it, Roger was too
>tired from singing SOYCD. So BLAH!
Wow, I (obviously) didn't know that. I haven't listened to the original
version in so long that I guess I can't even hear it in my head correctly.
Maybe it will work if I take my foot out of my mouth! :-)
No hard feelings!
Paul
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:09:18 -0500
From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: need cd reccommendations
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000222130519.00ad6ea0@pop.ecosoft.com>
Uggh...
I listen to cd's all day at work.. ever get to a point where you look in
and can't decide on what to listen to because you've heard everything
repeated.. I need something new...
What artist's does the jam reccommend? I've been toying with checking out
stratovarious but not sure which cd..
a quick glance at the cd book has DT (+ most if not all of the side
projects), fates warning, marillion (fish and hogarth),ryche, satch, rush,
kings x, mystic fishook, labyrinth, buckethead, kingsx, savatage,dregs, etc
etc etc...
-Cypher
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:13:19 EST
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5331
Message-ID: <2.11d406b.25e42bbf@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/22/00 8:38:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< Unfortunately with the return of Dr. Shoals, er Mosh, the crackpipe has
been
passed back into his hands. I claim to enjoy the band Giant in a completely
sober state of mind. Maybe that's my problem. Or yours. You know, if
we're going to start spouting opinions, I'd just like to say that Mike C. is
a really crappy dude. I think he really sucks. But that's just, imo. :)
--
> KorgX3 just used that for an example?
Mike C. hates when people refer to themselves in the third person. Mike C.
thinks it is a pretty arrogant thing to do. Mike C. also thinks that calling
someone "a pretty crappy dude" without knowing him at all is pretty "crappy"
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:23:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: Vocals, Drums
Message-ID: <20000222182329.11575.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com>
Marie.Donnell@agso.gov.au wrote:
> Also another thing i wanted to point out that no one
seems to have yet;
> MP's Drumming just before the end of FF. WOW! I
wish so much i
> could see him do that live, he is the best drummer.
Wow! I would have thought you had seen the show by
pointing out that drum part. It may have been the best
moment in the whole show. I didn't even realize that
drum part was there until I saw Mike beating the hell
out of his drums live.
On this topic of James vocals: Maybe I am just
pointing out the obvious here, but we have been
listening to YEARS of James getting his vocal style
bashed for being too high and/or too much tremolo. Now
he has toned it down a little, we start getting
complaints from the other side. It was almost agreed
upon that it was James "old-school" vocals that turned
off many potential fans. SFaM in my experience (and in
the experience of many others here), was able to
capture new fans, the same people who had been turned
off by earlier DT (those people who said "great music,
the singer sucks").
Maybe gaining new fans is reason enough for James to
tone down. Maybe it will help him save his voice over
time. Maybe he just can't sing that high all the time
anymore (sorry kids, the voice goes, there's no
denying age).
Personally, I never had a problem with any of James
vocals. But in comparison, I must admit that I like
his lower tones better. Anyone who has seen the tour
knows that he sings a couple of parts HIGHER live than
on the SFaM recording. I cringed when he did it. It
just didn't sound good to me.
my $.02, BH
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:24:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT in DC
Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.10.10002221216250.18876-100000@gs.bass.org>
Whatta show [for some reason when I first typed that, the "h" in show
didn't register, and would've conveyed a completely different impression].
I didn't go through the crowd seeking out memebers of the jam, but
bestowed the largesse of my knowledge on the groups of people who happened
to be in my proximity. Cool people all around. And the show...words fail
me. I hope this is not the post that drives lucasvinci@?.? to end it all.
After the show I got signatures and found out that Korg was wrong!! Mike's
currently back on Jagermeister, so no tequila, ok? I was gonna get him a
bottle, but ran late. Previous posts have far more adequately described
the show so I'll say go read the last 10-15 jams to get a good idea.
Finally, some other jammer had wondered what was playing before DT came
on. It's the same set of tunes they had on the European leg in November,
with the remix of Rush, Mr. Bungle, etc. I don't recall the complete set
list, possibly Itchy archived it somewhere since the listing was an
official note from Mike.
paul
NP Mogul Thrash: S/T
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:20:44 -0500
From: "Michael G. Mattingly" <mgmattingly@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: the simpsons
Message-ID: <20000222.132045.-362395.0.mgmattingly@juno.com>
> lol..my fav from the show is when homer is sitting in church with a
> bucket of chicken and:
>
> marge: "homer! you can't eat chicken in church!"
> homer: "marge..if god didn't want us to eat in church
> he would have made glutteny a sin."
> marge: "your being sacreligious"
> homer: "mmmmmmm..sacralicious"
>
My fave is : Homer: " mmmm Doughnuts, is there anything they can't do? "
LOL
peas,
Greg
NP: Crucible " Tall Tales "
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mgmattingly@juno.com - deadspace@hotmail.com - ICQ: 61308415
" From the sublime to the ridiculous is but a step. "
- Napoleon Bonaparte 1812
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:53:43 -0800
From: "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Oh jeez....
Message-ID: <00a301bf7d66$2422cd60$305ad9cf@gorilla.it.earthlink.net>
Mike C. wrote:
>>Counting the minutes until I read your intellectual response
>
>Shouldn't you be doing something a little more constructive with your
time??
>LIke counting the minutes towards a Giant reunion perhaps??
> -Mike C.
Oh the irony here. Mike, you shouldn't set yourself up like this... :-)
But I'll be nice... :-)
Myself, I prefer Giant to Metallica or Megadeth. You go the other way.
We're both right, and so is everyone else. That's the way opinions work...
:-)
Hey Korg, here's one for ya - Tyketto... And I'm amazed that you were once
Chuckalupugus... I actually remember that...
Just for the record, I've been here off and on since around #500 or so...
Mostly lurking... And always laughing. This list is very funny. I was
hoping to see Brian and Simon go after each other with this latest argument,
but they seem to have ended up on nearly the same side. Oh well, maybe next
time...
Paul
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:56:09 +0000 (GMT)
From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: SFAM ending
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002221953210.344-100000@localhost>
In accordance with the prophecy, Brian Hayden uttered:
> > Were you on the Ytsejam when SFaM came out, because I think you missed
> > the whole point of the album. It was fun when it first came out and everyone
> > was trying to work out what the album was about.
> > In the end it was just a simple mystery, not to obvious but it had a fairly
> > clear conclusion, but some people really got into it and it was fun.
>
> Heh, yes, I was here. I don't buy that it had a clear conclusion...when
> discussion of it died off, there were at least eight or ten possibilities
> that had been thrown around.
I wasn't here at the time, and would really like to know what those eight or
ten possibilities were. Could anyone point me to an url, or simply recap them
to me privately or jamwide?
Linus
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:00:50 +0000
From: Charlie Farrell <charles.farrell@tesco.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: The Gathering's "Superheat"
Message-ID: <38B2DCE2.BF296CA1@tesco.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:44:55 -0700
]From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The Gathering's "Superheat"
>What do y'all know about The Gathering's "Superheat"? It seems to be
>a greatest hits-type disc - is there anything special about it? It was
>just released last month...
Well, it's a kinda average live album - even for a fan. A pretty
lacklustre
effort IMHO. But, at least in the digipack version I have, it does
contain
a neat video file of the band doing 'Elanor' with Anneke bouncing around
on stage - which kinda made up for some of the disapointment I felt when
I listened to it the first couple of times.
Charlie
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:11:57 -0600
From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: SFAM ending
Message-ID: <B4D83B9D.2E04%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
There's an archive of all the jams on an ftp site...I'm in ack mode
personally so I can't point you to numbers, but I'm sure someone else can.
-Brian
--I don't think of Playboy as subscribing to a magazine, more like subscribing to a girlfriend.
-Mike Tereshinski
> From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net> > Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:02:03 -0800 (PST) > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: Re: SFAM ending > > > > In accordance with the prophecy, Brian Hayden uttered: > >>> Were you on the Ytsejam when SFaM came out, because I think you missed >>> the whole point of the album. It was fun when it first came out and everyone >>> was trying to work out what the album was about. >>> In the end it was just a simple mystery, not to obvious but it had a fairly >>> clear conclusion, but some people really got into it and it was fun. >> >> Heh, yes, I was here. I don't buy that it had a clear conclusion...when >> discussion of it died off, there were at least eight or ten possibilities >> that had been thrown around. > > I wasn't here at the time, and would really like to know what those eight or > ten possibilities were. Could anyone point me to an url, or simply recap them > to me privately or jamwide? > > Linus > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email will self-destruct upon deletion. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > lairfight@softhome.net, visit http://linusworld.cjb.net (PGP key available). > >
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:14:08 -0500 From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5332 Message-ID: <000601bf7d68$ffb3afa0$0200010a@steve>
> these people feel like they have to force themselves to like everything a > band comes out with, which is why they'll put it on 30 times in a row and > then say "it's growing on me." :P I hate that mentality. It's just cheap > religion for people who would rather believe in a Shred God than a god who > can send them to hell. :P
That was awesome! :)
> >So what are your credentials to say that one of > >the all time great singers in rock music isn't > >talented ?
Whose credentials say he's great in the first place? Sure, Zep was popular, but if truly great musicians were the factor that makes a band popular, I'd be seeing DT at MCI Center and not the 9:30 club (which is a nice club, btw), and seeing a Spock's Beard video on VH1.
>Training NEVER does any harm to a good singer.
Amen.
> I agree unreservedly. Pantera just wouldn't be what they are if they replaced Phil Anselmo with a "real" (aka "talented") singer. In fact, they might actually be quite a good band if they did that!
Haha! I've always wished Phil would just kind of shrivel up and Devin Townsend would take his place. Imagine Hevy Devy singing Cemetery Gates!!!!!
> * You know what the Pier 6 show was. bonus points if you were there.
I WAS THERE! It was so surreal. The storm outside, seeing DT up there on a BIG stage. It was like a dream.
..then James came out in those bike shorts. Oh, boy...
Steve Z
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:18:08 -0600 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Oh jeez.... Message-ID: <B4D83D10.2E06%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
> From: "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net> > > Just for the record, I've been here off and on since around #500 or so... > Mostly lurking... And always laughing. This list is very funny. I was > hoping to see Brian and Simon go after each other with this latest argument, > but they seem to have ended up on nearly the same side. Oh well, maybe next > time...
Heh, what can I say, I've mellowed in my old age. I usually save the gratuitous insults for when I meet people in person now. ;) As for old school...not really, only about four years now. I mean, it's a while, but I got nothing on the people that were here before Awake and earlier. I hit this place in the middle of the drrrrrrrrrry spell between Awake and FII.
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:22:57 -0500 From: Barbara B <babs@pop.geneseo.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5332 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000222142257.0070142c@pop.geneseo.edu>
>there are no old members of the YTSEJAM! We demand to >be known as geriatrically enhanced! We demand our own >specially-made (Ken) bibs for when we dribble while >discussing nostalgic moments. When some of us first >signed up, a lot of you were bahrly out of diapers.
Hello everyone, it's Babs (writing you from the YTSE Nursing Home) <snort>. Yeah, I remember the ytse drinking game, only now us old peeps need to be near the bathroom or wear our Depends. Plus I'll have to coat my stomach w/ Tagment (and that's no joke) before imbibing...
Back to my rockin' chair - Babs
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:28:31 -0700 From: "Bill Huston" <HUSTON@iomega.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: asdf Message-ID: <s8b280f7.046@royn20.iomega.com>
Fooled you! Thought I was going to subscribe or somethin....
Old jammers: Been here since immediately after DT came here for the Awake = tour-I didn't find out about it until then. Got on right when Mike Bahr = was hawking Subconcious-didn't buy it. Have 3 arastar shirts all glow on = the back and they're black-couldn't get a green one as they all sold = out-damn Steve Z :> I can remember 'Bafu Bafu Bafu-you are now in a dark hall.....
And George Farber-where is he when you need a good laugh. Mike Bahr threatening someone with his cousin Joey the wrestler, or is = that rassler? :> Warren in Oregon calling everybody A$$holes because they didn't live in = Oregon :> And Ben Laussade....where is that guy?
I'm sure Mike Bahr would agree....
oh yeah, I thought I was the oldest jammer (44) until Andrew, I think, = claimed to be 45.
Hi everyone, it's Babs
Wilmo
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:12:45 -0500 From: dwsenko@us.ibm.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DC Show setlist .. some thoughts .. get there! Message-ID: <8525688D.006B1409.00@d54mta04.raleigh.ibm.com>
Setlist: 1. SFaM Break / Encore 2. Peruvian Skies 3. Erotomania 4. Paradigm Shift 5. Medley: Pull Me Under/Under a Glass Moon/A Fortune in Lies/ Only a Matter of Time/Take the Time
Star People - as someone suggested, go with an open mind. The violinist is a looker! Don't skip them outright - it's interesting entertainment.
Dixie Dregs - not my first choice of music (CDNow bio calls it jazz-rock fusion) but musicianship is outstanding. Steve Morse is a monster on guitar and Jerry Goodman on violin is impeccable. Their back and forth jams are incredible. I don't know the song, but one tune is played at breakneck speed with jams back and forth that makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck - it's that good!
DT - what can I say? Volume increases significantly but as others have mentioned, the mix IMHO is very very good. You MUST go to this show (if it comes near you) just to see their musicianship - all of them and notably IMO, Jordan and especially John are just incredible. The CDs are great but you must see them to fully appreciate them! To say they play "tight" in totally understated! Nuff said.
DF Mo
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:48:18 -0500 From: "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Vocals Message-ID: <001901bf7d6d$c41549e0$b7ab889e@plymouth.edu>
> Just mailing to those who were having the discussion about vibrato. > I too am a singer and i love to use my vibrato, but i can also control it > I cant imagine it being a natural thing, well i suppose it is sometimes > But i can always HOLD a straight note.
The point that some of us were trying to make. Vibrato is natural because it is a result of relaxing. HOLDING is not relaxing.
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:58:02 -0500 From: "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Simple DOES NOT = good. Necessarily. Message-ID: <006101bf7d6f$201ee240$b7ab889e@plymouth.edu>
> >the fact IS that simple lyrics attract mainstream >listeners. See, obviously whoever started the > >hopeful rumor that SFAM:Mp2 was supposed to be Dream > >Theater's breakthrough recording, knew something >beforehand. By keeping the lyrics simple and not > >too intricate, DT will reach more fans....MIND YOU- > <snip> > > What utter rot. The only thing that attracts mainstream listeners is big tits, a bit of hype, and a four-on-the-floor dance beat, maybe with latin flourishes. You're equating simple with good, and it's crap. But I suppose that, given the vein of music you say you're making, this makes sense. "Save Tonight" - well, that's good, isn't it? The thing is - and here's the difference - the lyrics to "Save Tonight" are simple. The lyrics on SFaM are just crap. They're unwieldy, dull...But I'm repeating myself, here. > > ~SJD > If you don't like it...don't listen to it. There.
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:54:07 EST From: IAmClay777@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5332 Message-ID: <ba.1ef22b6.25e4435f@aol.com>
Save tonight blows. Big chunks. It's not comparable to Dream theater.
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:54:31 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Splooge Factor Threshold Exceeded Message-ID: <38B2E977.ECDAFCB1@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Jason T. Breitweg asked:
> Are there jam archives that go back that far?
> I would sure like to get ahold of some.
I'm sure there are, but the earliest digest I found at Skadz' archive was:
ftp://ftp.dreamt.org/pub/ytsejam/2000/ytsejam.2098
FWIW, the earliest post in that digest is dated "Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996." The digest appears to have a little 'dicussion' between Damon and Taycheck :), Ripzero prior to his 'moo' days, a Rick Terry post!, a couple from my old mailstorm address, and the following which I found mildy amusing given recent digests' splooge factor:
> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:28:02 -0500 > From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com > > HOW do you unsubscribe to the list. I am going out of town. > > write me: market@clubmet.com
Hmmm....... private e-mail. What a concept :) Even the dude posting grokked it in all of its splendor!
Perspective: Ok, so where were all the nitpickers back then posting reply after reply, bitching it should be 'unsubscribe FROM the list', blah blah blah? You know who you are :)
Send a friggin' e-mail or hit the PAGE DOWN/DELETE/FIND_ALL_YOU_NEED key. Either way, get over yourself already...
Brian of 9 wrote:
> Heh, yes, I was here. I don't buy that it had a clear conclusion...when > discussion of it died off, there were at least eight or ten possibilities > that had been thrown around.
Yeah, heh, and I remember reading somewhere, that after one of the recent gigs, James was talking to someone about the lyrics and he basically said words to the effect of "You're reading too deeply into it" .... guess that would knock off between eight and eleven of the above ten, eh? <grin>
The following is not to Brian (although Brian would have known that already ;), but just some apparently random spewage:
I'll be the first to admit I still don't know ALL the lyrics to songs from WD&DU, I&W, etc. and you know what? Personally, I just don't give a fuck :) I don't care what the story is about, I don't care whether there's some deep meaning, or if you edit out every fourth letter from every third from the first track of every CD you end up getting a clue as to how the fabric of time works or perhaps the secret to controlling the End-Of-Jam ;)
You like wonderful musical stories, cool? Whatever floats yer jetsam....
I like sounds :)
Regards, Jon
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:02:20 -0500 From: "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: the simpsons Message-ID: <008101bf7d6f$ba069a60$b7ab889e@plymouth.edu>
My favorite is when there is some sort of field trip to the death chamber and Ralph says: "It smells like hot dogs" I just think this one is delightfully morbid. Also in the same episode, the leprechaun that tells Ralph to start fires.
> > > lol..my fav from the show is when homer is sitting in church with a > > bucket of chicken and: > > > > marge: "homer! you can't eat chicken in church!" > > homer: "marge..if god didn't want us to eat in church > > he would have made glutteny a sin." > > marge: "your being sacreligious" > > homer: "mmmmmmm..sacralicious" > > > > My fave is : Homer: " mmmm Doughnuts, is there anything they can't do? " > > LOL > > peas, > Greg > NP: Crucible " Tall Tales " > -------------------------------- > Michael G. Mattingly > mgmattingly@juno.com - deadspace@hotmail.com - ICQ: 61308415 > " From the sublime to the ridiculous is but a step. " > - Napoleon Bonaparte 1812 > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:17:46 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Wahlen <mva@sbbs.se> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: the simpsons Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002222215020.4202-100000@holly.sbbs.se>
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Michael G. Mattingly wrote:
> > My fave is : Homer: " mmmm Doughnuts, is there anything they can't do? " > > LOL > > peas, > Greg
Excuse me if I step aside from the Homer/food theme, but what about the episode when Bart goes to a religious school. The school's motto was: "We put the fun in fundamentalist dogma."
Erik
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:22:12 -0600 From: Ryan Roehrich <ryanscott@mindless.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tickets needed for Boston show Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000222142025.00aeba20@byzantium.inacom.com>
Looking for 2 tickets for this weekends show. Should have ordered them weeks ago but I wasn't sure if I was going to be in town or not. Any kind soul out there have 2 spare tickets they don't need? Thanks!
Ryan
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:32:17 EST From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tell me about the past, grampa Message-ID: <4a.1f0d467.25e44c51@aol.com>
All this talk about old-time jammers has made me nostalgic. Yes, I was at the Pier Six show (play some more songs, you weather pussies, Galactic Cowboys!) I got on this damn list waaaay back in 1994. 6 years? Wow, that's a lot of wading through bullshit, a lot of would-be know-it-alls, a lot of watching people drink from hairy ox testicles... 6 years ago it seemed this list was full of UMBC clowns (oh wait, Steve Z is still here, and Hartman, too, but Backof is gone...) and life had meaning...now it's nothing but bitching; in fact, I walked uphill both ways to work today, all 42 miles each way...
Last night I saw DT at the 9:30 club in D.C. and it was unremarkable. Sure, DT was good and everything, but I would have preferred the show to end after SFaM because the rest was sort of hashed together. I usually post some sort of (hopefully) humerous show story, but this time there was nothing funny to relate. The club was sold out, but...there weren't even any rutting fat couples in need of condoms burning me with their cigarettes! It wasn't 100 degrees in the club. There weren't any drunks pushing me and sticking their bony-ass elbows in my ribs. There weren't any half-dressed bimbos doing the stairmaster dance routine. Sigh. The yuppification of dt is complete :-) Imagine going to a concert and having to actually listen to the music.
NP: LTE -2
Kevin
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:43:01 -0500 From: Bobby Tufino <slimegod@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: santana and mclaughlin Message-ID: <38B2F4D4.5F3F14E6@bellsouth.net>
Hey jammers. I seem to remember reading a while ago a comment about an old Santana album featuring John McLaughlin? Anyone know what album this is? Thanks. Oh yeah and out of curiosity, any of you metal oriented jammers succeeded in getting a really metal tone out of a Line 6 Flextone?
Bobby
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:54:42 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: santana and mclaughlin Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E61752117B93@MESSAGING>
> Oh yeah and out of curiosity, any of you metal > oriented jammers succeeded in getting a really metal tone out of a Line > 6 Flextone?
Oh, hell yes. Use the "Rectified" amp model, drive at 80-85, bass at 80, mids at 20, highs at 85, presence on 60, channel volume on 100, master volume wherever you want it. Use a LITTLE bit of reverb and delay for the rhythm tone, and add a little more of both + a light chorus for the lead sound. I actually have the AX2-212, which is far more customizable, but I nearly bought the Flextone and am very aware of how incredibly versatile they both are. I've used this setting (plus some graphic EQ and cabinet simulators from the AX2) in rehearsal and live situations with fantastic results.
Hope this helps,
David
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