YTSEJAM Digest 5345
Today's Topics:
1) show starting times / simpsons quotes
by JamesAhab@aol.com
2) Iced Earth trilogies / Led Zep
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
3) I sit corrected and flabergasted!
by "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
4) RE: Re: NEED MONEY blah blah blah
by "MattyMo" <mattymo@mattymo.com>
5) Re: Iced Earth trilogies / Led Zep
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
6) Re: Led Zep
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
7) Re:Re: Heather's right...lets face it
by Rjvilareal@aol.com
8) Lyle Mays? or Jordan Rudess?
by Rjvilareal@aol.com
9) Re: ACOS
by "gaz" <graham@renegade2K.com>
10) Sorry
by "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu>
11) Also,
by "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu>
12) Re: ACOS
by Fett2002@aol.com
13) Re: UAGM
by Fett2002@aol.com
14) Re: I sit corrected and flabergasted!
by "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
15) Re: ACOS (and pearl jam info)
by "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
16) Re: NEED MONEY TODAY FOR YOUR SMALL BUSINESS??? 24HR APPROVAL!!! CALL
by "Stefan Zell" <stefanzell@hotmail.com>
17) Re: Sorry
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
18) If you spot us, don't be shy...
by "Greg Kampf" <gkampf@mondenet.com>
19) EXTRA Dream Theater Ticket In Philly (TONIGHT)
by Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
20) Re: If you spot us, don't be shy...
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
21) Re: EXTRA Dream Theater Ticket In Philly (TONIGHT)
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
22) Re: DT @ Toad's
by "kathi" <fates1@snet.net>
23) Euro tour tickets
by Charlie Farrell <charles.farrell@tesco.net>
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:44:16 EST
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: show starting times / simpsons quotes
Message-ID: <da.1b6ab3f.25e762a0@aol.com>
What time have the shows generally been starting? My ticket says 8:30. Should
I show up at 8:00 if I don't want to miss anything?
And more Simpsons quotes:
"Hey, hey! This is not a lending library. If you're not going to buy that
thing, put it back, or I'll blow your heads off." - Apu
"I have asked you nicely not to mangle my merchandise. You leave me no choice
but to ask you nicely again." - Apu
"Hehehehe. Look at this country: U - R - gay. Hehehehe." -Homer
Jim
np - Spocks Beard
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:49:22 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Iced Earth trilogies / Led Zep
Message-ID: <38B609D2.FA3248F9@home.com>
> >I'm wondering why no bands (at
> >least that I know of) have attemted to make a sort of "mini-concept
> >album" on
> >an othersise non-concept album. For example, why not just have 3 or 4
> >songs
> >on an album that have one story going for them together, while the rest
> >of the album is not part of the story.
> I belive for two examples of this, look at The Dark Saga and Something
> Wicked This Way Comes, both by Iced Earth. The last few songs on these
> two albums are a story. I hope this helps.
There is a trilogy of songs at the end of Dark Saga ("The Suffering"),
BUT the ENTIRE album (not just the trilogy) is actually based on the
Spawn comic book.
You are right about Something Wicked though. Just the last three songs
are related, although the next album is going to be a concept album
based on the character ("Set Abominae") described in the trilogy.
--- Adam Pye said: > Also out of curiousity, everyone knows that Led Zeppelin IS NOT A BLUES > BAND, right? Definitely a rock band, and this song just happens to have a > "bluesy" feel to it. > > Just wanted to mention that to all these people who seem to know absolutely > nothing about Led Zeppelin...Brian Hayden is right, Led Zep was HEAVILY influenced by the blues! No question about that one.
- Joe D.
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:56:13 -0500 From: "I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: I sit corrected and flabergasted! Message-ID: <001601bf7f4c$a4d92700$396c8acf@freelark>
Thanks for the info Matt, I also found out something new about the Recher and Bohager's (where I will most definitely be on Monday night BTW). The girl on the phone at Bohager's told me that the NEW Bohager's is actually a lot larger than the Recher! Could it be that there was not enough room at the other place to hold all of the DT fans planning to attend :-) not the other way around as was the pessimistic conclusion I jumped to?
I will be there and am likely bringing some DT show virgins with me-a couple of unenlightened guitarists!
Speaking of guitarists, the two jammers below must be a couple of truly awe inspiring players to have the balls to make such statements. ROTFLMAO! Sorry guys, you're both extremely confused.
>Date: 24 Feb 2000 20:21:07 -0000 >From: "mr. case" <wintermute@section-9.com> >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >Message-ID: <20000224202107.17792.qmail@musone.chek.com> > > >bingo > >also.. am i the only one on this list that thinks the same thing about the dregs? i.e. steve morse is pretty good, but nothing extraordinary and the band shouldn't get the god status they seem to have accuired around here > >inferno >NP: weather report - heavy weather > >>I don't think he's a really great guitarist and >>I don't think he should be hailed as some sort of >>musical deity the way he is. >> >>-Dan.
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:14:53 -0600 From: "MattyMo" <mattymo@mattymo.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Re: NEED MONEY blah blah blah Message-ID: <001901bf7f4f$406d1da0$0100a8c0@mattymo>
Then morons like you include the whole message in your rant about it...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:37:08 -0500 ]From: "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: NEED MONEY TODAY FOR YOUR SMALL BUSINESS??? 24HR APPROVAL!!! CALL FLEET BANK NOW AT 212-703-1802 I'm sorry, but what the hell is this doing on the Jam? I know we stray off
<snip.>
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:48:38 -0800 (PST) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Iced Earth trilogies / Led Zep Message-ID: <20000225054838.17904.qmail@web508.mail.yahoo.com>
> There is a trilogy of songs at the end of Dark Saga > ("The Suffering"), > BUT the ENTIRE album (not just the trilogy) is > actually based on the > Spawn comic book.
Hm, I couldn't read this and not mention Pearl Jam's trilogy of songs. I can hear it already "Wha?!?! Pearl Jam have a song trilogy?! No way! Grr hrr hrr!" But they do, this is so. The trilogy starts with "Alive", followed by "Once" and ends with "Footsteps". Without going in to too much detail, the song deals with a man who's life just goes to shit really really fast. The songs aren't in that order on Pearl Jam's 'Ten' CD (hell, "Footsteps" isn't even on it, but there's a really good reason for that which I'll be happy to explain if anyone doesn't know why), but the trilogy is there. The name of the trilogy is "Mamasan". What that stands for, I couldn't tell ya, but they do have a trilogy of songs. On their second album, they have a duology of songs ("Daughter" and "rearviewmirror"). Anyway, just wanted to add a little nugget to this subject to see what happens after this. Heh heh. Laterz.
===== *Trent
"There's colors on the street. Red, white & blue. People shuffeling their feet. People sleeping in their shoes. There's a warning sign on the road ahead. There's a lot of people thinking we'd be better off dead. Don't feel like Satan, but I am to them. So I try to forget them anyway I can." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:55:24 -0600 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Led Zep Message-ID: <B4DB756C.2FA7%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
Well, I can agree somewhat. A lot of their stuff is overplayed; but as I don't listen to the radio much anymore (at least not classic rock stations), it's no skin off my nose. In reality, if you look at the first two albums, Whole Lotta Love is played a lot. Dazed and Confused gets some play, but not all that much with that long instrumental section. Heartbreaker/Living Loving Maid comes on now and then. Other than that, the first two albums really aren't on the radio much at all. I don't think as a whole they're any more overplayed than any other group/performer from that era. Think how much more play the later Beatles, later Stones, early Billy Joel, etc. get on the same "classic rock" stations...those are all the same time period more or less.
As far as ripping off Willie Dixon, I think that's complete bullshit and really does lessen my respect for the man, though he's a biggie in the blues tradition and I like his music. The blues is a traditional, oral/aural form, and thus built on people using each other's stuff; there are many riffs and lyric lines repeated in blues songs, many of which go as far back as plantation songs. But, once Zep got huge, Dixon knew he could make a bundle off it. They probably should've given him credit in the first place, but no other blues performers give credit for the same type of use; I think he was a money grubbing bitch for pursuing that lawsuit. Basically, he only won because they were white and British, and therefore not considered part of the "real" blues tradition.
-Brian
--
Each time I write lines for it, someone improvises it life is so much cleaner on the page.
-Kevin Moore
> Well, on the first album, they actually ripped off Willie Dixon! Dixon sued > and won. That's why Dixon has some song writing credit on the first album. > So, regarding that first album, I'd use the phrase "stole from the great > blues players" as opposed to "heavily influenced by" them. This being said, I > have always like Zep and do consider them one of the greatest rock bands > ever. This also being said, after hearing every damn song of theirs off the > first 2 albums and Led Zep 4 (or Runes or whatever ya wanna call it) being > played ad nauseum, I am just sick to death of them at this point of my life > and wouldn't mind if they weren't played on the radio for the next 5 years. > After all, how often can ya listen to Whole Lotta Love and Rock and Roll?! > Give em a rest now I say. > -Mike C.
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:56:35 EST From: Rjvilareal@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Re: Heather's right...lets face it Message-ID: <36.289dcd7.25e77393@aol.com>
I have to add my 2 cents here...the first Dream theater song I ever heard was 6:00 on AWAKE, and being a drumming student at the time, from the first couple of pick up notes from the drum intro, i was hooked, and i can honestly say that that was the definitive moment for me, when i became a fan...Awake still is one of my real faves...
Jason
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:12:31 EST From: Rjvilareal@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Lyle Mays? or Jordan Rudess? Message-ID: <ba.2090458.25e7774f@aol.com>
Someone mentioned Pat Metheney on a post the other day...I was just wondering if there were any Pat Metheney fans out there on the jam, and to be more specific, Lyle Mays fans...I had the opportunity to Attend the University of North Texas' College of Music...this was when i was introduced to the album "Lab '75" which was devoted entirely to the compositions of Lyle Mays, at which time (1975) he was a student and the One o'clock lab band's Keyboardist/pianist. Just a little background info for the interested; The University of North Texas One o' Clock lab bands have recorded cd's every year to commemorate the particular groups work through out the year...when Lyle Mays was a student back in '75, in a very controvertial move at the time, the members of the 1 o clock lab voted unanimously to dedicate the entire recording to the compositions of Lyle Mays. Anyway, this question I'm about to pose only concerns fans of both Lyle Mays and Jordan Rudess...which is youre favorite? I have to admit, i would love to see them do a cd together...two of the greatest pianists of our time come together to create the most unique piano recordings in recent years...
Jason <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/rjvilareal/">Jason's Futile Attempt at Modern Technology</A>
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:22:33 +1100 From: "gaz" <graham@renegade2K.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ACOS Message-ID: <200002250925.EAA07120@sampa.simpleweb.com.br>
> uh......no. ACOS is one song that is 23 minutes long. NOT a series of > songs tied together. > -Mike C.
Wow, really ? After all these years me thinking ACOS was a series of seperate songs and now you tell me it isn't ? Maybe you have a different version to the rest of us ? Tell me your only joking ? Now you've ruined the whole experience for me..........
gaz
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:35:54 -0500 From: "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Sorry Message-ID: <000d01bf7f5a$91595c00$b7ab889e@plymouth.edu>
Sorry, I didn't realize it was a spam. I didn't mean to waste everybodies time. Plus I didn't mean to waste space in the digest by repeating the entire message. Just how often does this happen?
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:37:21 -0500 From: "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Also, Message-ID: <002001bf7f5a$c4a69960$b7ab889e@plymouth.edu>
thanks to those of you who emailed me privately instead of making fun of me on the jam.
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:25:18 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ACOS Message-ID: <72.1c793ba.25e7885e@aol.com>
>> uh......no. ACOS is one song that is 23 minutes long. NOT a series of songs >> tied together. >> -Mike C. > mmkay, I get your point. ACOS is a breakless, consistent piece of music. > Even though the sleeve text divides it into several parts, those parts >aren't "songs", but rather, well, parts. There is one story. Although >nothing prevents you from listening to only, say, Carpe Diem (well, the CD >layout makes it a bit tedious to search to the right position in the track), >you don't WANT to do that. You want to hear all of it, even though it takes >time.
OK, I see your point as well. But for me, I can't listen to ACOS in parts because I just think of it as one song, and if I listen to a part of it I just would feel like I'm listening to one part of a the greater whole. I guess other people can maybe, but not me. It would have been a neat idea though if maybe they would have gave it track numbers so that you could listen to the different parts of it without the hassle.
>But. How is that any different from sfam?
Well, maybe it's just a personal thing, but SFAM seems to me to be far more of a collection of songs that tell one whole story than does ACOS. I've always just thought of ACOS as one whole song in and of itself. And when I meant that I would like to hear a group do a 3 or 4 song storyline, I was thinking more along the terms of something where each song was its own unique entity moreso than the individual part of ACOS. The closest I have heard of this is perhaps Pearl Jam (whom I forgot had done this until now). They had a trilogy of songs that told one story back during the time of their first album. The story consisted of the songs Once, Alive, and Footsteps. I forget in which order though. Once and Alive of course are on the first album, and Footsteps was (as far as I know) only recorded live acoustically and included as a B-side on the Jeremy single. By the way, for any Pearl Jam fans out there (especially of the first album), I would recommend picking that single up. Footsteps is one of my personal fav Pearl Jam Songs. The single also has Yellow Ledbetter on it. Sorry for the rambling here at the end! -Mike C.
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:27:22 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: UAGM Message-ID: <27.239824d.25e788da@aol.com>
> > I must be one of the few people to actually like UAGM...It's awesome to play, > > but I guess not really to listen to (The solo's awesome). >..of the few people to actually LIKE UAGM ?!? Is this true ? Don't you guys >(and gals) like listening to this song ?
I like the song! -MIke C.
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:40:31 -0500 From: "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: I sit corrected and flabergasted! Message-ID: <001301bf7f63$97e7bd60$636a0d18@abdn1.md.home.com>
so the lady on the recording said it was the new bohager's (at parrot island)? that's important to know, considering i'm used to going to the old bohager's next to the bakery. the new one at parrot island (w/ the dome) is huge. considering baltimore's lack of musical diversity, i doubt they switched venues because of lack of space! btw, if you and your friends are looking to get together to do whatever, i know a bunch of places to hang out, or get something to eat after the show or whatever you all want to do. let me know. i'm off to dream of the electric factory's concert!! can't wait till later. peace.
----- Original Message ----- ]From: I-Man <inavarro@mdo.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 12:07 AM Subject: I sit corrected and flabergasted!
> > Thanks for the info Matt, I also found out something new about the Recher > and Bohager's (where I will most definitely be on Monday night BTW). The > girl on the phone at Bohager's told me that the NEW Bohager's is actually a > lot larger than the Recher! Could it be that there was not enough room at > the other place to hold all of the DT fans planning to attend :-) not the > other way around as was the pessimistic conclusion I jumped to? > > I will be there and am likely bringing some DT show virgins with me-a couple > of unenlightened guitarists! > > Speaking of guitarists, the two jammers below must be a couple of truly awe > inspiring players to have the balls to make such statements. ROTFLMAO! Sorry > guys, you're both extremely confused. > > >Date: 24 Feb 2000 20:21:07 -0000 > >From: "mr. case" <wintermute@section-9.com> > >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > >Message-ID: <20000224202107.17792.qmail@musone.chek.com> > > > > > >bingo > > > >also.. am i the only one on this list that thinks the same thing about the > dregs? i.e. steve morse is pretty good, but nothing extraordinary and the > band shouldn't get the god status they seem to have accuired around here > > > >inferno > >NP: weather report - heavy weather > > > >>I don't think he's a really great guitarist and > >>I don't think he should be hailed as some sort of > >>musical deity the way he is. > >> > >>-Dan. >
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:43:53 -0500 From: "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: ACOS (and pearl jam info) Message-ID: <002f01bf7f64$109c5040$636a0d18@abdn1.md.home.com>
I have to agree, the jeremy single is a great one because of footsteps. i'm also a fan of the even flow single because of Dirty Frank. that's one of my fav PJ songs. btw, if anyone's interested in pearl jam boots, or misc mp3's, i got your hookup. i'm out. peace.
----- Original Message ----- ]From: <Fett2002@aol.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 2:34 AM Subject: Re: ACOS
> > >> uh......no. ACOS is one song that is 23 minutes long. NOT a series of > songs > >> tied together. > >> -Mike C. > > > mmkay, I get your point. ACOS is a breakless, consistent piece of music. > > Even though the sleeve text divides it into several parts, those parts > >aren't "songs", but rather, well, parts. There is one story. Although > >nothing prevents you from listening to only, say, Carpe Diem (well, the CD > >layout makes it a bit tedious to search to the right position in the track), > >you don't WANT to do that. You want to hear all of it, even though it takes > >time. > > OK, I see your point as well. But for me, I can't listen to ACOS in parts > because I just think of it as one song, and if I listen to a part of it I > just would feel like I'm listening to one part of a the greater whole. I > guess other people can maybe, but not me. It would have been a neat idea > though if maybe they would have gave it track numbers so that you could > listen to the different parts of it without the hassle. > > >But. How is that any different from sfam? > > Well, maybe it's just a personal thing, but SFAM seems to me to be far more > of a collection of songs that tell one whole story than does ACOS. I've > always just thought of ACOS as one whole song in and of itself. And when I > meant that I would like to hear a group do a 3 or 4 song storyline, I was > thinking more along the terms of something where each song was its own unique > entity moreso than the individual part of ACOS. The closest I have heard of > this is perhaps Pearl Jam (whom I forgot had done this until now). They had a > trilogy of songs that told one story back during the time of their first > album. The story consisted of the songs Once, Alive, and Footsteps. I forget > in which order though. Once and Alive of course are on the first album, and > Footsteps was (as far as I know) only recorded live acoustically and included > as a B-side on the Jeremy single. By the way, for any Pearl Jam fans out > there (especially of the first album), I would recommend picking that single > up. Footsteps is one of my personal fav Pearl Jam Songs. The single also has > Yellow Ledbetter on it. Sorry for the rambling here at the end! > -Mike C. > >
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:54:44 CET From: "Stefan Zell" <stefanzell@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: NEED MONEY TODAY FOR YOUR SMALL BUSINESS??? 24HR APPROVAL!!! CALL Message-ID: <20000225075444.70569.qmail@hotmail.com>
>I'm sorry, but what the hell is this doing on the Jam? I know we >stray >off the topic of Dream Theater quite often, and sometimes we >stray totally >away from music, our little Simpson's thread, but what >is this doing here? > I get enough email from businesses anyway, and >I am personally getting >really sick of it. I don't (and I'm pretty >sure not many other jammers >do) need this kind of thing.
I agree 100%. This is definitely something that doesn't belong on this list!!
/Stefan
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:33:44 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Sorry Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000225083344.017e9f28@pi-r-squared.com>
At 10:43 PM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: > >Sorry, I didn't realize it was a spam. I didn't mean to waste everybodies >time. Plus I didn't mean to waste space in the digest by repeating the >entire message. Just how often does this happen? >
hehe. quite often. you should have been here at Christmas time, when we were getting all the viagra ads. That was a riot.
Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the opportunity." -Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 03:27:47 -0400 From: "Greg Kampf" <gkampf@mondenet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: If you spot us, don't be shy... Message-ID: <200002250830.DAA28801@mail.mondenet.com>
Hello all,
I finally have a good reason to emerge from lurker-mode.
If we haven't met already, I'm Greg, and failing a blizzard on Saturday morning, I should be in Boston this weekend for the show. (a warm weekend is expected, thankfully)
My fianc=E9e Helen and I may be the only two Canadians in attendance at the Roxy, and you should be able to recognize us immediately: we'll be the kind ones holding doors for people, picking up dropped beer bottles (for safety reasons); and we'll likely be looking fai= rly intimidated by the tempestuousness of the rowdy American crowd.
This will be her first DT experience, and my fourth... ..she's been listening to SFAM all week at her workplace, (with headphones, as not to disturb her Grammy-loving co-workers), and she tells me she's pretty excited about seeing this piece of music performed live...she even described several sections of SFAM as 'ground-breaking'...so I think we're ready.
If you spot us, please don't be shy --- come on up and say hello! This could be your only chance to meet a real Canadian, other than Mr. Labrie, of course.
I should be in a black leather jacket--- Helen will be in a black, knee-length coat. (unless there's a coat check)
I'll probably be drinking Rolling Rock. Helen will most likely be drinking Sam Adams. (unless the club stocks neit= her)
I have short brown hair. Helen has long brown hair.
We'll both have earplugs in, so you'll have to speak up!
Looking forward to meeting a few jammers in Boston! T minus 2 days.
-G- gkampf@mondenet.com Ottawa, Ontario
La Villa Strangiato http://members.home.com/lavilla
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:16:59 -0800 From: Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: EXTRA Dream Theater Ticket In Philly (TONIGHT) Message-ID: <38B69CEA.7CD99132@home.com>
Hey Jammers,
My "buddy", who says he's a DT fan, bailed out on me late last night AFTER I bought the tickets on Wednesday. Now I have an extra ticket for sale, if anyone is interested. Please e-mail me privately at Angelo13@home.com OR at my work address AngeloL@Voegele.net. I don't want this ticket go to waste.
BTW... my wife is 9 months pregnant, and she also can't go due to obvious reasons.
Thanx, Angelo
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:34:20 -0500 From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: If you spot us, don't be shy... Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000225073338.00a8b2d0@pop.ecosoft.com>
>If you spot us, please don't be shy --- come on up and say hello! >This could be your only chance to meet a real Canadian, >other than Mr. Labrie, of course.
I thought Myung was from toronto.........
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:44:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: EXTRA Dream Theater Ticket In Philly (TONIGHT) Message-ID: <4995e0c2dfgraham@picsel.com>
ReSent-From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> ReSent-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
In article <38B69CEA.7CD99132@home.com>, Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com> wrote: > BTW... my wife is 9 months pregnant, and she also can't go due to > obvious reasons.
If she drops the sprog tonight, give the ticket to your baby. Baptism of fire, as they say. :-)
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:29:02 -0500 From: "kathi" <fates1@snet.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: DT @ Toad's Message-ID: <004501bf7f94$8a90dc60$1f293ccc@kathithompson>
Just a few words about the Toad's show... Of course, DT was incredible! I couldn't have been happier with their performance. My friend and I were surrounded by mostly decent people, with the exception of the dick that stepped in front of us. He only momentarily disturbed our euphoria, though, ' cuz when DT hit the stage, we were right where we wanted to be and he was nowhere in sight! About the rabid DT fan, she was the most annoying part of the show, since "the arm" distracted me even from where I was! A moment to remember: about halfway through DT's set, the guy standing in front of my friend (who was MUCH taller than she was), turned around and offered her his spot at the railing. Whatta guy! My only real complaint: it was just too damn cold in there! Had I known they were gonna crank the AC, I'd have worn my freakin' parka! ----- Original Message ----- ---------------------------- > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:36:10 -0500 > From: "M. Emerson" <cthulhu@CYBERNEX.NET> > To: "Ytse Jam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: DT @ Toad's > Message-ID: <00cc01bf7eed$a39b8310$040310ac@pwcg.com> > > > i just wanted to put up a quick post about the show last > night...unfortunately, i would have to say that it was probably the worst or > 2nd worst DT show that i've been to, but this had nothing whatsoever to do > with the performance (which was amazing, as usual...) > > the crowd last night was a bunch of idiots! i was up near the front (about > 2-3 people back from the stage), and several unpleasant things occurred... > > first, a few minutes after i got in the door and found a good spot, this > jerk pushes his way into the crowd and takes up residence right in front of > these 2 girls that were next to me (who were both about a head shorter than > he was)...several people said something to the effect that that wasn't very > nice of him, to which he just shrugged and said 'shit happens' and didn't > give it a second thought... > > second, during DT's performance, the crowd pushed forward a bunch of times, > which squished all the people in the front worse than they were already > getting squished...my arms were pinned to my sides for the majority of the > show, as i struggled to keep what little space i had and tried not to have > visions of slipping and getting trampled to death... > > and last, but most certainly not least, there was this one girl that was > just a complete nutcase...she was, from what i could tell, an abnormally > rabid DT fan (the kind of person that, if one of the members of OFB walked > up to her, pointed at someone and said 'kill', she would've leaped across > the room, tackled the hapless victim, and ripped his/her throat out with her > teeth...) > > she had a very shrill singing voice, which she used to full effect by > screeching the words out at the top of her lungs for the entire show (there > were a few times that i could hear her better than i could hear james), and > she had her fist in the air the whole time, and she was pumping it > throughout each song (even the slow songs, it seemed)...now, normally this > might not be too bad, except for 2 factors: 1) she really didn't seem to > care if there was anyone around her that she might inadvertantly hit, and 2) > i happened to be standing right behind the 'flailing arm of destruction'...i > ended up keeping my face down for the first part of DT's set, because i > didn't want a black eye and/or damage to my teeth...eventually, i stepped > back a bit so she could slide in front of me so i wouldn't be directly > behind 'the arm' anymore...little did i realize that i would then have to > deal with her 6-foot, 225-pound male friend who was doing the same > fist-pumping that she was...this girl was also very belligerent and almost > got into a fight or two, because she really didn't care about anyone but > herself, and she also didn't care who she pissed off...i don't think i've > ever been that happy and relieved to see a DT show end! > > well, hopefully philly and nyc will be a bit better than that CT > mess...later, all! > > > mikE emerson > cthulhu@cybernex.net > > > ------------------------------ >
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:36:05 +0000 From: Charlie Farrell <charles.farrell@tesco.net> To: Marie.Donnell@agso.gov.au, ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Euro tour tickets Message-ID: <38B68545.3F1CD97F@tesco.net>
Despite my lengthy post giving numerous links to websites for just about every country on DT's European tour Marie Donnell still posted the following:
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:09:10 +1100 >From: Marie.Donnell@agso.gov.au >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >Subject: Euro tour tickets > >Well now my brother has chosen to go to either of the Norway shows >And we were trying to find out where to get tickets and also any >hotels around that area >Any help at all you guys could give me would be awesome :)
*puzzled look* Well I posted this f**kin link yesterday Norway http://www.billettservice.no/cgi-bin/bs/bs_best.cgi?DREAMTHEATER@ORF@001-001
and it is on the f**kin DT website for cryin out loud!!!
To find the venue, go to http://www.rockefeller.no/
- click on Rockefeller - click on 'verdt a vite' (middle button) - then select 'kart' from the side menu
It looks like a short walk from Oslo Train station.
As for a hotel - when I travel, I normally use a search engine, to find sites like the following.
http://www.gonorway.no/ http://www.localhotels.com/eu/norway.html
Bear in mind that Hotels in this part of the world, tend not to be cheap.
Charlie
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