YTSEJAM Digest 5351
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Backstreet Boys, take two.
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
2) DT Presidents Day CD arrived in Atl. :)
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
3) Here it comes...
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
4) modern(?) classical
by "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com>
5) backstreet milla wisha merlo
by Uroborosss@aol.com
6) New DT related Winampskin
by "=?iso-8859-1?B?TWljaGFlbCBXZWnf?=" <weiss666@hotmail.com>
7) Re: backstreet milla wisha merlo
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
8) Re: REVIEW: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC
by "Jordi Torras" <Syrinx@teleline.es>
9) We are the enlightened ones.
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
10) taping and tapping
by jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net>
11) Roseland show
by "some dude" <zombieeaterx@hotmail.com>
12) a response from a 16 year old at the Roseland
by "Brian" <brianja@erols.com>
13) Re: Backstreet Boys
by Nate Wilhelm <wilh0038@tc.umn.edu>
14) what is music? and the strange link between ricky martin and DT
by "Kevin A. Loechner" <loechner@eecs.tulane.edu>
15) RE: taping and tapping
by "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
16) Re: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC
by Babyfr10@aol.com
17) RE: REVIEW: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC
by "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
18) X-Mass CD
by "Joe Latuscha" <Joseph.Latuscha@maine.edu>
19) Star People Links
by "MattyMo" <mattymo@mattymo.com>
20) Re: BSBoys
by Fett2002@aol.com
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5350
by Fett2002@aol.com
22) Mike and Rod Appearences
by Jpbwildcat@aol.com
23) Re: DT tour
by Fett2002@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:11:31 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Backstreet Boys, take two.
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000227101131.0183370c@pi-r-squared.com>
>The one thing that just totally seems to escape your mind is that people
>>actually like their music.< I agree with you on the manufactured bit. I'm
>just as pissed off at the grammies and how I could write a song comparable
>to a Ricky Martin song, but I would never make it big because I'm overweight
>and have a small penis. But regardless, they record some good tunes. If
>you don't like it, fine, but I find it rather rediculous (and ballsy!) to
>pigeonhole some 20+ million people as "morons" simply because they like a
>particular group/song/whatever.
Actually, I won't call them morons, The people are being manipulated. It
happens... *shrug* nothing to get upset at them about, imo. What rage I do
have, will be directed at the record companies, not the fans, as they are
the ones exploiting people, and the entire music industry. They're the ones
orchestrating a sham. I think they're con-artists, and it should be put to a
stop.
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 100 02:52:57 -0800 (PST)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DT Presidents Day CD arrived in Atl. :)
Message-ID: <200002271052.AA17511@crl.crl.com>
.and I know another guy here who got his, too. I'd say the tramp
freighter that brought the Southeast-bound CDs bucking and heaving
across the Atlantic FINALLY made port at Miami or Savannah. :)
(Think I'm joking? They -were- sent SURFACE mail.....)
-- + Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com www.crl.com/~vanyel ICQ #4151223+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Godhead * Michael Moorcock * Changelings | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Storm Constantine * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Patrick O'Brian * Ozric Tentacles * Raymond Feist....|------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 07:16:48 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Here it comes... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002270712110.44715-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
It is now 7:10 AM, and I am just getting up for a full day of DT-absorbing. It's about a 1.5-2 hour drive to Boston from here in lovely Plymouth, NH, and I'm going to get an early start so I can be at Daddy's and the Roxy waaaay early.
Anybody who's looking for other jammers, look for me: I will be dressed pretty normally, probably in jeans and a black polo shirt (I haven't picked it out yet), but the easiest way to figure out who the hell I am is that I'm going to be with three other guys, two of which have red hair (one of those has a goatee, the other a very long five o' clock shadow) and another guy with dark hair.
To figure out what the hell *I* look like, go here: http://cout.dhs.org/newpic/me.jpg. It's a pretty good pic of me, but it's a few years old, so all you have to do to figure out what I look like now is put a goatee on that picture. Come up to me in Daddy's or at the show and say hi, because I'm interested in meeting as many people as possible!
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- Never pet a burning dog. -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 07:33:47 EST From: "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: modern(?) classical Message-ID: <20000227123347.87719.qmail@hotmail.com>
>As for me, I have music education - classical piano, and as soon you >started to talk about Prokofiev, I'm very happy to see that people all >over the world like and respect our wonderful composer.
mostly self-taught composition here.... now if we could just get playing down. ;)
Russia and eastern Europe seem to have turned out some of the most interestng composers from the past century. My most recent purchase in the classical vein was Stravinsky 'Firebird' / Scriabin 'Prometheus'.
This was spurred by seeing Fantasia 2000 at the IMAX in Indy. Disney finally did something right (In U's NVHO)and cut out the Tim Rice and PC BS from one of their films. Excellent music and visuals ('Firebird' is downright chilling) .
>PPS Does anybody like Debussy?
*raise of hands*
>PPPS Well, Grieg is great too!!!
and probably my (D) absolute favorite; the only MIDI I have out on the net (probably still floating around) is a prog version of Concerto in A Minor.
JAJUID
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 07:41:35 EST From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: backstreet milla wisha merlo Message-ID: <1e.1eff991.25ea757f@aol.com>
> The fact of the matter is, that if you go up to any 10 BSB fans and ask > why they like BSB, I bet you 9 out of 10 will say something along the > of "Cause they're so hot!"
I first became interested in Milla Jovovich because of her album, "The Divine Comedy." Then I saw "The Fifth Element." Then I started noticing her on magazine covers as a fashion model. While I still think she's a better musician than actress, according to you I should like her most (or only) for her modeling because that's her primary activity. Who's to say which facet of the Backstreet Boys is "supposed to be" the most appealing or primary?
> From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> > Subject: Backstreet Boys, take two. > > I mean, some people like cars simply because they are red, not > because they have a 400hp engine in them.
I like cars that can go back in time and leave flaming tire-tracks. The ability to press "turbo boost" and jump over canyons means little to me.
> See what I mean? Music just means that much more to you. It's > absolutely unfair to tell those people who like red they are idiots simply > because their interest level is lower than yours.
Hey hey hey, don't you be calling red "lower" just because it has longer wavelengths than any other visible color! Don't MAKE me go electric-burgundy on you, boyyy! > From: Rachel Goldenberg <wisha@li.net> > Subject: Headline: NYC DT show! More rambling than spoilers. > > Then I went to the TGIFridays where a bunch of jammers gathered.
You and your lucky pre-show gatherings. Back in MY day, restaurants would BURN TO THE GROUND in anticipation of us Ytsejammers! Those were the days...
> I rather liked the projections on the screens; good images _and_ words :) tho > I undoubtedly missed a few, and for the record I happen to really like the > videos that DT have done, unlike some people on this list.
Most of the angles were purposely diagonal. I have a feeling Mike Portnoy did most of that since he's a real Dutch-angle-loving cinematographer freakazoid...
> From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> > Subject: REVIEW: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC > > OK, first up was the Star People. They'd actually be OK if it weren't > for the three assholes at the front of the stage.
Lorenza Ponce kicked ass. If you couldn't appreciate her talent then you gots cotton candy in yer ears, pal. The blue kind, not the pink kind.
> There's no possible way for me to take a band seriously if they need to rely > on image and schtick that much. It was like watching a bad Vegas lounge > act, or a bad magician.
I know what you mean. I can't take a band seriously unless their attire matches up with my ideas of proper band-fashion. Music by itself just doesn't cut it. If LaBrie is wearing a t-shirt, I just KNOW his vocals are gonna suck hard. Plus he'll get pit-stains. :)
> And what was the deal with the guitarist sitting down? Who does he think > he is, Fripp?
What's the deal with Fripp sitting down? Who does he think he is, Brian Wherry??
> * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages > shows.
I see you're one of those music-nazis who like to exclude young people from hearing their favorite bands because they aren't over 21. "You can't buy beer? NO MUSIC FOR YOU!!"
> There was a group of about 6 15 year olds behind me.
Chris "Be Older Than Me Or Else" Merlo.
> * Kevin never took a keyboard solo.
Kevin Moore?
> I was tempted at numerous times to turn around and slap her in the mouth.
> I don't like that gay carnival-music break in TDOE to begin with,
Let's see... gays... women... young people... who else do you hate? :)
> Can anyone say Birch Hill?
Birch Hi--what do you mean there are no windows?!
Birch Hi--oh shit Al Balkiewicz just got trampled with a lit cigarette in his hand!!
Birch Hi--whoah I thought I was safe behind Paul Cashman and Chris Merlo and Mike Baaaahhhrrrr!!
> but I couldn't see a whole lot else because of the basketball team > that mysteriously wound up in front of me as DT went on.
Not since Jim Belushi in "Red Heat" have I heard a basketball team joke like this that made me laugh out loud. ;)
> If you were at (or have a boot of) any of the Awake-tour US shows (I'm thinking > particularly of Malibu 12/95),
Can anyone say MALIBUUUUUUUUUU *hiccup* how ah YOOOUUUU glug glug glug
> Skadz, Bogie, Johnny Motown and Bandanna Man :), Augie and Wisha (!), > Wilson Cat, Neil Evans (damn, what a trip!), the Analog Stardust Gal (hey, > my drummer wants to know if your friend is single :), Koba and Scotch (dude, > that helmet kicks ass!), Jai... damn, who else?
Man... I have to make a road trip north next time...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:57:30 PST From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?TWljaGFlbCBXZWnf?=" <weiss666@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New DT related Winampskin Message-ID: <20000227125730.29596.qmail@hotmail.com>
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:04:04 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: backstreet milla wisha merlo Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002270758150.46515-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 Uroborosss@aol.com wrote:
> I like cars that can go back in time and leave flaming tire-tracks. > The ability to press "turbo boost" and jump over canyons means little > to me.
You too?! Hey, do you know where I can find a spare flux capacitor? Mine got burned out a few weeks ago.
> Hey hey hey, don't you be calling red "lower" just because it has > longer wavelengths than any other visible color! Don't MAKE me go > electric-burgundy on you, boyyy!
I don't think I've laughed this loud at 8 in the morning is forever. Of course, that's only because I haven't been AWAKE at 8 in the morning in forever.
> Lorenza Ponce kicked ass. If you couldn't appreciate her talent then > you gots cotton candy in yer ears, pal. The blue kind, not the pink > kind.
That's some insult there. You couldn't even be nice enough to make it pink.
> I know what you mean. I can't take a band seriously unless their > attire matches up with my ideas of proper band-fashion. Music by > itself just doesn't cut it. If LaBrie is wearing a t-shirt, I just > KNOW his vocals are gonna suck hard. Plus he'll get pit-stains. :)
Ewwww, pit stains...
> > * Kevin never took a keyboard solo. > > Kevin Moore?
I was kinda confused at this statement at first... I thought he mis-used Jordan's name at first. Heh. Then I realized he was just saying that Jordan didn't need to do a solo because Kevin never did... Wait a minute! Why on earth would he say that...?
> > Can anyone say Birch Hill? > > Birch Hi--what do you mean there are no windows?!
Heh.
> Birch Hi--oh shit Al Balkiewicz just got trampled with a lit cigarette > in his hand!!
Hah.
> Birch Hi--whoah I thought I was safe behind Paul Cashman and Chris > Merlo and Mike Baaaahhhrrrr!!
Hahahahahahahahaha!
> Bafu Vai
O_o
Bafu?! In total bafflement, I looked through my archives and came up with two message in the past month: This one, and one yesterday. When the hell did you resub? Nice to see you again!
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:57:36 +0100 From: "Jordi Torras" <Syrinx@teleline.es> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: REVIEW: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC Message-ID: <000001bf812e$45c859a0$1e424dc3@syrinx>
> Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages > shows. There was a group of about 6 15 year olds behind me. One of > the guys, I swear to Christ, had more equipment to smoke his pot > than I do to play bass. And one of the little girls kept screaming > in my ear, but at all the wrong times. During the quiet parts, it > was either this bitch screaming (Crim fans: think of that noise at > the beginning of LTIA2), or talking overly loud with her little > friends. I was tempted at numerous times to turn around and slap > her in the mouth.
It happened to me something similar yesterday, when I saw Yes playin' live here in Barcelona, Spain. But this was a man of about 30 years old I had behind, who didn't stop screaming and shouting like a madman. It was very, *very* irritating, he didn't stop even in the quiet parts as well, as in the beginnig of "Awaken". He spoiled part of the great show it was... :-(
Regards
Jordi Torras
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:37:18 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: We are the enlightened ones. Message-ID: <38B9369E.D63DA12C@isd.net>
Greetings fellow Jamsters,
Go ahead, call me a snob.. But I think we are the enlightened ones. Most people never listen deeply enough to grasp the depth of a well written song. I don't believe they make the connection between a well written lyrics and the emotional reflections of a skilled musician. When you ask the average person what emotion a particular song invokes, they look at you like you're retarded.
I was just listening to "Candlelight Fantasia" by Symphony X. The guitar alone can bring tears to your eyes... Not the mention the haunting lyrics sung by a very skilled vocalist that sounds like he's one step away from slashing his wrists. That song is so powerful. I could be at my own surprise birthday party with 100 other people and feel lonely and empty inside with just one listen. I like that! Any song than can project that much emotion has my attention. Unfortunately, very few songs fall into that category.
I just don't understand how some people can get all warm and fuzzy over lyrics alone. Particularly when the singer/musician is more concerned with how cool he looks rather than focusing on making MUSIC. On the other hand, I hate it even more when a truly great song is ignored by the masses simply because most people like simple catchy tunes to rotate torsos by... DANCING: A vertical expression of horizontal desires.
Let's get these people laid so we can teach them about good music!
/Al is surprised KorgX3 has gotten past the "New Kids On The Block". ;o)
>KorgX3 is sitting on the edge of a mountain stream. She walks over to him. >He does not hear her. She says, "Are you alone?" Startled he jumps up from >his seat. "Who are you?" She approaches him and starts rubbing her hands >over his body, caressing him sensually. "Oooooh," he moans as his nipples >become painfully rigid... *pop* Hey, you fuckers! Get out of my fantasy!
Shake shake shake Shake shake shake Shake your booty
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:45:59 -0600 (CST) From: jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: taping and tapping Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10002270918070.28978-100000@darkhorse.webzone.net>
On 02/27/00 1:20am, thus spake Scarred2112@aol.com:
| *Note to EastWest - tape this tour, and release it on DVD NOW!...DT deserves | it, and we'd buy it!*
at the Philly show there was a camcorder (one of those professional looking Sony hi-8 or something) setup at the soundboard. maybe another live longform video in the works? or maybe video for the next single? Portnoy's archive? fan club stuff? who knows.
On 02/27/00 5:13am, thus spake Andrew Coutermarsh:
| Bafu?! In total bafflement, I looked through my archives and came up | with two message in the past month: This one, and one yesterday. When | the hell did you resub? Nice to see you again!
i twisted his arm at the DC show. BV: how's the Ponce cd?
-- jOHN jENS jJENS@wEBZONE.nET http://sHELL.wEBZONE.nET/~jJENS
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:52:57 GMT From: "some dude" <zombieeaterx@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Roseland show Message-ID: <20000227155257.12889.qmail@hotmail.com>
The show at Roseland last night rocked my world! The place was packed like a can of sardines. After tearing through SFaM, James made a comment that I will never forget: "It's funny that in today's musical environment... a progressive band sells this fuckin' place out!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:56:56 -0500 From: "Brian" <brianja@erols.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: a response from a 16 year old at the Roseland Message-ID: <000801bf813b$467fd6e0$40e27ad1@brian>
>Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages shows. There was a group of about 6 15 year olds behind me.
Don't get me wrong Digital Man, I'm not flaming you at all. I just want to set the record straight. You can blame on not having the best time you ever could at a DT show on some teens, or you can just accept the fact that Dream Theater's fan base is increasing from the original WDADU and Images and Words followers-- and hey all people enjoy the shows differently. Move to another part of the crowd and I'm sure you would have seen a 30 year old smokin a joint (albeit no paraphernalia) with his annoying wife yelling "I cant see anything" or "I want to hear Lie!!" with just the same shreikiness as this 15 year old you talk of. So you can blame your troubles on some people just trying to have a good time or just see that the younger following of DT is the future of DT and progressive music. It seems strange that for the time I've been on the jam, i've heard people say that DT needs more radio airplay and one of their videos on MTV, but hey when I hear comments like this it makes me wonder if some people don't want DT to have a bigger fanbase. But me saying this is being the same hypocrite as the Digital Man-- I can't judge every DT fan on the action or ramblings of one. It's just troubling to hear comments like this. Geez, I wish they played more all age shows-- I would have gone to the LTE show at the Bowery and the DT show in Boston today.
Oh, one more thing-- "OK, first up was the Star People. They'd actually be OK if it weren't for the three assholes at the front of the stage. " No wonder DT never caught on like Metallica or Britney Spears for that matter-- so many close minded people just like Digital Man who would say that "They'd actually be Ok if there wasn't that asshole man-who-thinks-he's-a-woman singer on stage. Man this band is so 80's." I've heard people say this-- and they just don't give it a chance.
This is probably a bad idea to post this but we teens need to speak out.
-Brian Jacobs brianja@erols.com
NP: King Crimson- Projekct 2
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:09:24 -0600 From: Nate Wilhelm <wilh0038@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Backstreet Boys Message-ID: <38B95A43.878588F2@tc.umn.edu>
I agree with a lot of you when you say that one person's music tastes are no better than anothers. However I do think that when it comes to a group like BSB that is where I draw the line. First of all it is manufactured. Second, they sing to a beat box, the music requires little to no talent to play. Third, their voices go through a computer before they go through the speakers. They could sing whatever the hell note they like and it will come out perfectly in key. On the subject of people just liking them because the look good. I don't know why DT doesn't get more attention that way. Those guys are pretty hot ;) I guess they're just not attractive to teenage kids.
Nate www.geocities.com/uofmtrumpet
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:18:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin A. Loechner" <loechner@eecs.tulane.edu> To: The Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: what is music? and the strange link between ricky martin and DT Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000227110214.24838A-100000@pegasus>
Hey Jammers,
Well, I have decided to throw my opinions on the "music" of the BSB, etc. I have actually heard that they write their own material, but I am not completely sure of the validity of that statement. Of course, that could explain the shoddiness of the material, but I would have to respect the fact that they wrote their own material. Also, their voices really are pretty decent from what I've heard, but that could be due to pitch shifters or really intensive singing lessons. Also, if they can sing well, why don't they try out some more intense material or stuff that is harder to perform. Maybe this is because they do lack integrity and can't really break away from what the music company wants them to do. Of course, groups like these have existed since the beginning of the music industry as there have always been teen idols. I believe this industry is what is wrong with music today. Music is supposed to be a fine art, not a business, but I digress. Also, someone had said that classical composers wrote for themselves. Some did, but a friend of mine told me that Mozart was the "pop" music of his day, and he had women all over him just like those boy "bands" of today. In the end of this I say, we must just tolerate the BSB, and maybe respect their singing. Do we really care if a bunch of 15 year old girls become DT fans? The thing I love about DT is that they are not huge, the fact that they can play an intimate small venue and take the time after shows to sign autographs and talk with their fans. I bet this never happens at a BSB concert unless you have a backstage pass. Popular music is just a phenomenon that most of us, including me, may never understand.
On a somewhat related note (to add more DT material to this post), I had been looking through the grammy nominees a few weeks ago and noticed this under Song of the Year. Livin' La Vida Loca (some person and DESMOND CHILD). It's the link between DT and Ricky Martin, well actually this was probably the fault of the record company, as they forced DT to use Desmond Child in co-writing a song. Just thought everyone would get a good laugh out of this. Plus, remember, DT used him before he worked for Ricky "fake latin music" Martin. Man, seeing people like Ricky Martin, makes me realize that the popular music machine has infiltrated almost every style of music out there. I can almost see it now, Popular Progressive, its almost as oxymoronical as Mainstream Alternative, but hey that became a reality.
Let's keep our music!
-Kevin
--------------------------------------------- -- Kevin A. Loechner -- -- Department of Electrical Engineering -- -- and Computer Science, Tulane University -- -- loechner@eecs.tulane.edu -- -- http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~kloechn -- --------------------------------------------- http://www.imagineradio.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name=kevin2112
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:54:43 -0500 From: "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: taping and tapping Message-ID: <NDBBJOAJEBLELDIGIBGMIEPIEEAA.td4235@ship.edu>
> at the Philly show there was a camcorder (one of those professional > looking Sony hi-8 or something) setup at the soundboard. maybe another > live longform video in the works? or maybe video for the next single? > Portnoy's archive? fan club stuff? who knows.
that camera was most likely the one they used for the giant screens they had hanging from the ceiling
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:07:02 EST From: Babyfr10@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC Message-ID: <7f.1342e33.25eac1c6@aol.com>
* Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages shows. ummmmmmmmmmmmm...NO. Lets examine the possible options. You could've simply MOVED!!!!!!!!!!! So you want to take away the opportunities for us pre-21 fans because you CHOSE to stand next to some dumb kids? Sorry...I have no sympathy for you on this one. Choose a better location to watch the show next time. Sarah
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:34:50 -0500 From: "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: REVIEW: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC Message-ID: <NDBBJOAJEBLELDIGIBGMEEPJEEAA.td4235@ship.edu>
> * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages > shows.
oh yeah, that's a great idea. don't let younger fans see the band they love. why would you want to keep anybody from supporting the band? i had some high school kids next to me, they stepped right out of revenge of the nerds. they were extremely annoying. but they had every right to be there. i just stuck my elbow into their side everytime they pissed me off. but it didn't stop me from enjoying the show.
and good luck finding a rock concert without people screaming and smoking pot.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:56:31 -0500 From: "Joe Latuscha" <Joseph.Latuscha@maine.edu> To: <ytsejam@TORCHSONG.COM> Subject: X-Mass CD Message-ID: <001401bf8154$5c93f6a0$75c56f82@umf.maine.edu>
Hey y'all... I have one question about the CD, how in the hell do you use more than just the movie, the lyrics stuff, the cd-plus stuff is all a mystery to me. MIKE IF YOU ARE READING, HELP US!!! Joe
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:00:01 -0600 From: "MattyMo" <mattymo@mattymo.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Star People Links Message-ID: <000d01bf8154$dd9308e0$0100a8c0@mattymo>
I saw someone on the usenet group post a URL for the Star People, and also "Star Girl"
Seems like Star Girl has been around... playing with John Tesh and Cheryl Crow on tour, and even on a Jon Anderson Album!
Star People: http://www.erandyland.com/starpeople/sp_index.htm
Star Girl (Lorenza Ponce): http://www.lorenzaponce.com/
np: Dio "Magica" (it rocks!! and, it's a Concept album too!)
MattyMo mattymo@mattymo.com www.mattymo.com www.mattymo.com/moshpit AIM: MattyMo Yahoo Messenger: mattymodotcom ICQ: 1952320
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:23:04 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: BSBoys Message-ID: <30.1c99dda.25ead398@aol.com>
<< The fact of the matter is, that if you go up to any 10 BSB fans and ask them why they like BSB, I bet you 9 out of 10 will say something along the lines of "Cause they're so hot! >>
Well, a lot of them will SAY that they love the music and they're really talented and what not, but you're right. The reason they buy the music is cause they think they're hot. At least, IMO, but it certainly seems that way. -Mike C.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:28:21 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5350 Message-ID: <75.1de1713.25ead4d5@aol.com>
>>You KNOW what the guy meant. That argument is so >> old. Does it rellty matter >> whether the 21st century begins this year or next? >> No, not really. > I have no idea what that guy meant. "Those vocals are >SO last century". Maybe there's something I'm missing > out on, but he just wanted to point out that 20th > century is over (even tho it isn't) by making a > moronic statement. The guy's an idiot.
OK, that I can't really argue with. -Mike C.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:36:15 EST From: Jpbwildcat@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Mike and Rod Appearences Message-ID: <c1.13ba7bd.25ead6af@aol.com>
When Mike and Rod go to the music stores, are they holding a clinic or just signing stuff. The reason why I ask is because I was at the Mars Music in Atlanta and asked two different people that worked there the same question and they gave me a different answer. One told me it was a clinic sponsored by Sabian and that they would answer questions, etc., etc.. If they had time, they would then sign stuff. Another guy said it was just an autograph signing. I want them to sign a drumhead and wanted to make sure that I'm cool if I bring it? What were the other appearences like? Thanks alot.
James.
ps. 3 days and counting!! :-)
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:39:13 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT tour Message-ID: <49.16e6e5c.25ead761@aol.com>
<< * Kevin never took a keyboard solo. And the only things that were ever close didn't have a sequenced rhythm track. I don't like that gay carnival-music break in TDOE to begin with, but to turn it into a 5 minute keyboard wank fest absolutely ruined it for me. Jordan's more technically impressive than just about any keyboardist I've ever seen (and I knew I felt that way seeing RMP open for DT 4 years ago), but there's a time and a place, you know? >>
Well, I think this was just to give the other guys a break. Its gotta be really draining to do that whole album live so the only chance for a break they can get is with that keyboard solo, so I looked at it in that perspective. Sure, Jordan gets no break, but hell, he's the new guy! lol -Mike C,
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