YTSEJAM Digest 5352
Today's Topics:
1) Re: blue grass dregs
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
2) Re: Pair o' dice
by Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351
by Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
4) Re: DT comes "Home" - NYC show *spoilers*
by Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net>
5) Re: blue grass dregs
by "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
6)
by "Nightfall_gr" <emperor@x-treme.gr>
7) Xmas CD - CD PLUS stuff
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
8) Re:
by "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
9) mormons' music
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
10) bafu the legend??
by "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu>
11) One way to rock (general admission)
by "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu>
12) Weirditude, dooods.....
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
13) AGE (warning: Dream Theater content and stuff)
by Rachel Goldenberg <wisha@li.net>
14) Re: BSBoys
by Fett2002@aol.com
15) The hand signal
by JamesAhab@aol.com
16) Dance
by Babyfr10@aol.com
17) FS: DT "Streams of Consciousness" 2CD
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
18) FS: DT Christmas CD 1997
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
19) FS: DT "Burning My Soul" promo
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
20) Roseland show...and some venting
by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
21)
by Mark Moore <rushzil2112@yahoo.com>
22) Re: REVIEW: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC
by "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:53:42 -0800 (PST)
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: blue grass dregs
Message-ID: <20000227195342.2046.qmail@web2005.mail.yahoo.com>
Banjoman wrote...
> -Banjoman wonders if there could possibly be ANOTHER
> bluegrass fan on
> this list =^)
Right here. I love Bluegrass music. I also dig bands like
Aquarium Rescue Unit. I think Bluegrass has to be one of
the most fun styles of music to listen to. I am always in
a good mood after I listen to some.
John P
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:02:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Pair o' dice
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10002271502180.26578-100000@vineyard.ecosoft.com>
ahh your right.. my bad.. i was in the middle of breaking a a city's worth
of internet access at the time =)
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000, Linus Akesson wrote:
>
>
>
> In accordance with the prophecy, Robert Muise uttered:
>
> > > > P.s. By the way, does anyone else think that it's safe to say that, from
> > > > the account in Home, Julian was "blinded by a pair of dice"? ;)
> > >
> > > YESss, that's what I keep hearing too!
> >
> > I thought that was a particularly clever song, seeing as in met1 he was
> > blinded by a paradise and in sfam they reveal that he was a drinker and a
> > compulsive gambler.. very fitting...
>
> The problem is that "blinded by a paradise" is from ACOS. =) Oh, never mind.
>
> Linus
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:07:58 -0800
From: Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351
Message-ID: <38B9AE4D.5D3B9A52@home.com>
Someone wrote...
* Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages shows.
Then Sarah replied...
ummmmmmmmmmmmm...NO. Lets examine the possible options. You could've simply MOVED!!!!!!!!!!! So you want
to take away the opportunities for us pre-21 fans because you CHOSE to stand next to some dumb kids?
Sorry...I have no sympathy for you on this one. Choose a better location to watch the show next time.
Sarah
And I had to say...
I agree completely with Sarah. When I was 20 (one week from 21), I missed the opportunity to see one of my
favorite heavy bands (Vicious Rumors), because it was OVER 21! I'm MUCH older now, and I don't wish anyone
to miss one of their favorite band for an age thing.
Just move! Someone next to me at the Philly show stunk REALLY bad... I moved! See? I still enjoyed the
show.
Angelo
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:19:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT comes "Home" - NYC show *spoilers*
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10002271517150.26578-100000@vineyard.ecosoft.com>
Wow last night was frikkin incredible.. I'm not gonna repeat everything
that has been said so, I agre with most everything. General admission
sucks ass.. My gf and I were there up front for half of the show when i
realized that i was focusing too much on trying to stay on my feet than i
was on the show. Figured I didn't come to stare up Labrie's nostrils and
we moved to the back to enjoy the rest..
I am SO Jordan's biotch... Damn.. Derek who?
Skadz, bogie, etc. I didn't even know ya'all were goin, wish I had run
into ya..
-Robb (cypher)
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 Scarred2112@aol.com wrote:
>
> Well friends, it's 3:50 am, and I've just gotten home from what I can
> honestly say was the best DT show I've ever seen!! Here's a quick rundown:
>
> The pre-show "gathering" - I think I can say A great time was had by all!! A
> bunch of us got together at a "Friday's" near the Roseland Ballroom to pay
> for overpriced food, bitch about the President being in town (thus screwing
> up traffic! ), and generally shoot-the...err..."stuff" about past DT shows,
> Ryche, Fates, and topics too numerous to mention. Guys, thanks so much for
> making my first attempt in planning something such a success! Let's do it
> again come summertime!
>
> The Line - We arrived at the Roseland Ballroom at about 5:45, thinking that
> would give us plenty of time to get decent places on line. WRONG!!! In all
> the shows I've seen, never in my life have I seen a line this long for a
> concert their! However, when all was said and done, we ended up "middle of
> the pack", and while not great, it could have been a lot worse .
>
> "The Star People" - Honestly, I was going into their set with a pretty low
> expectation, based on what I had heard. However, I must say I was pretty
> impressed with their musicianship, and while not a big fan of "joke music", I
> can say I've personally seen much worse opening bands.
>
> "The Dregs" - One word - Fantastic!. The crowd was into them big time, and
> they seemed to throw it back to us, based on the energy of the set. I haven't
> had the opportunity to get into their music that much, but far be it for me
> to say anything bad about a band with two bassists! . They closed with
> "Cruise Control", which we all know from "The Big Medley" from ACOS, which
> had every band member trading solos!
>
> Dream Theater - For all the naysayers who thought that Derek leaving would
> lead to a reduced stage presence, "the proof is in the puddin'"!! . From the
> amazing automated vari-lights, to the great video presentation, nothing was
> left to chance! This was the best sound mix I've ever heard live - everyone
> loud and clear, but not too overpowering! Some of the highlights...
>
> James's voice - The best it's been since the "Awake" tour. Not a moment where
> he went off, and many times he expanded what he did on SFAM!
>
> JP's EB/MM - Coming from a longtime Ibanez supporter (I've got two of their
> basses), I must say that the blue EB/MM sounds much better!! Seemless
> switching from electric to "acoustic" sounds, and the most "on" I've seen
> him. Not a flub in the show!
>
> John Myung - My man! Solid as a rock as ever, finally upfront in the mix, and
> absolutly nailing the "DOE" solo, as well as some great fretless work on
> "Through Her Eyes". I knew my choice of a bass hero was a correct one!
>
> "Uncle Mikey" - Nailed the "Shrink 'n grow" section on "Fatal Tragedy", as
> well as some great improv work at the end of "FF". IMHO, the best drummer
> today, period!
>
> Jordan's solo - Okay, I'll bite...how much to play my wedding? Words can't
> describe this man!
>
> Some last tidbits...the "Dr. Evil" theme, a classic!! ...The crowd being much
> more into "Peruvian Skies" then I had though they'd be...DT selling out a
> 3200 person theater, and the presence of many more "kids" then I had
> expected! This could be the turning point!
>
> It's getting late, and I've got a band practice early, but I'd be severely
> remiss if I didn't thank "Semico" (Sean, take care of the baby, but we have
> got to hang again! You are the greatest! *side note* it turns out the Sean's
> sister went to school with my best friend Scott, who was there with me. Turns
> out Sean had seen us play the "Band Bash" at Concordia College! Weird how
> people are connected! , "EFX"(?), for the great oversea's stories, "Lulu",
> for the free drink, ever though she missed the gathering (I own you one
> Angie! ), Scott, Cheryl, and everyone I'm forgetting at the moment (I'm
> sorry, but it's late)...all of you made this night one of the best memories
> I'll ever have!
>
> *Note to EastWest - tape this tour, and release it on DVD NOW!...DT deserves
> it, and we'd buy it!*
>
> Later, everyone...
>
> Ian
>
>
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:35:14 -0500
From: "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: blue grass dregs
Message-ID: <001801bf8162$275197a0$636a0d18@abdn1.md.home.com>
you got another blue grass fan here too! I loved that part of the dregs
set. It was great!
matt.
----- Original Message -----
]From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: blue grass dregs
>
> Banjoman wrote...
>
> > -Banjoman wonders if there could possibly be ANOTHER
> > bluegrass fan on
> > this list =^)
>
>
> Right here. I love Bluegrass music. I also dig bands like
> Aquarium Rescue Unit. I think Bluegrass has to be one of
> the most fun styles of music to listen to. I am always in
> a good mood after I listen to some.
>
> John P
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:50:21 +0200
From: "Nightfall_gr" <emperor@x-treme.gr>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBLPOPFJBOLMIGGBJBCECFCAAA.emperor@x-treme.gr>
I would like please to be deleted from the ytsejam digest list
thank you
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:08:01 +0100
From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Xmas CD - CD PLUS stuff
Message-ID: <v04220803b4df390ac19d@[192.168.1.1]>
>I have one question about the CD, how in the hell do you use more than just
>the movie, the lyrics stuff, the cd-plus stuff is all a mystery to me. MIKE
>IF YOU ARE READING, HELP US!!!
You're yelling at the wrong direction...
To see more than just the movie, buy a Mac.
Ok, that was the short explanation, here's the long one:
Those files and directories are there for compatibility reasons. I
wanted to make sure that most of you could at least see the movie, so
I tried to keep the data session as Blue Book (a multimedia CD
standard) compilant as possible, which includes putting those extra
things in the data part.
In therory you could use a special CD Extra player that would be able
to show the extra stuff, in fact I never saw something like that,
except the AppleCD Player for the Mac. Ironically this player uses
another, totally different file format for this stuff instead of
using the files in CD PLUS, rendering this directory basically
useless. But maybe there's indeed some weird CD-ROM driver out there
that looks for those special directories to decide if the data
session is valid or not. If just one of you happens to use this
driver, it was worth the effort.
Anyway, sorry for the confusion. Just ignore those directories. The
actual content (cover picture and lyrics) is in the booklet anyway.
Steffen
-- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:11:25 -0500 From: "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Message-ID: <009601bf8167$34bd50a0$636a0d18@abdn1.md.home.com>
how come people still don't know how to unsub the correct way? Use the correct commands! do i need to post the instructions?
matt.
----- Original Message ----- ]From: Nightfall_gr <emperor@x-treme.gr> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 4:06 PM
> > I would like please to be deleted from the ytsejam digest list > thank you >
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:18:37 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: mormons' music Message-ID: <38B994AD.5214F028@imap1.asu.edu>
> Actually, I won't call them morons, The people are being manipulated.
HAHAHAHAHA That's the funniest way of saying "difference in opinion" I've read since perusing excerpts from Mein Kampf!
Dream Theater rules! Pretentious fans are a riot!
~This post has been emailed to you by the letters E C K I E
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:42:16 +0100 From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: bafu the legend?? Message-ID: <200002272139.WAA29957@altair.ceu.hu>
> > Bafu Vai > > O_o > > Bafu?! In total bafflement, I looked through my archives and came up with > two message in the past month: This one, and one yesterday. When the hell > did you resub? Nice to see you again!
I wanted to ask too? Does this mean that some of us newcomers to the list will get to experience Bafu, the legend?? I mean, Bafu was THE most mentioned legend of the oldies thread. And after reading stuff like
quote:"""""" * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages > shows.
I see you're one of those music-nazis who like to exclude young people from hearing their favorite bands because they aren't over 21. "You can't buy beer? NO MUSIC FOR YOU!!"
> There was a group of about 6 15 year olds behind me.
Chris "Be Older Than Me Or Else" Merlo.
> * Kevin never took a keyboard solo.
Kevin Moore?
> I was tempted at numerous times to turn around and slap her in the > mouth.
> I don't like that gay carnival-music break in TDOE to begin with,
Let's see... gays... women... young people... who else do you hate? :) "" unquote
I think I am seeing what the legend is all about. We are honored.
T-Bone
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:42:16 +0100 From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: One way to rock (general admission) Message-ID: <200002272139.WAA29941@altair.ceu.hu>
> >> * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages > shows. > ummmmmmmmmmmmm...NO. Lets examine the possible options. You could've > > simply MOVED!!!!!!!!!!! So you want to take away the opportunities for us > pre-21 fans because you CHOSE to stand next to some dumb kids? Sorry...I > have no sympathy for you on this one. Choose a better location to watch > the show next time. Sarah > I absolutely agree. There seem to be a lot of people who somehow manage to listen to fuckin' LaBrie, Petrucci, Portnoy, Myung, and Rudess at a fantastic mix, and while they do that they spend most of their time being pissed off! Congratulations!!!!! :) I dunno, I personally don't really it when people act in this way at concerts. I mean, it is a rock concert, if not metal! I think that you have to count in some pushing there, sweat, other people singing, sometimes taller people. I guess if it is a stand up show, you either have those beers before the show, and go to the front, and have fun that beats any other, and spread love and positive energy and go feel like you are in heaven. Rock, man, instead of hating everyone else who showed up. Move around till you find the sweet spot, and feel free to push a little! Or you can go in the back, close to the mixing board, for example, and watch from "safe distance". It is easier to move around, and the audience in the back is usually less active.
It is a rock concert, people have Multiple Musical Orgasms!!! You cannot expect people to behave as if you were in a theatre (hehe).
Anyway, this wasn't meant as a personal flame or anything, it is a reply to the many people who have been complaining about the side products of something that makes our lives different, that thing is called ROCK, my friends.
Cheerzo T-Bo'
NP Van Halen - Right Now (live)
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 100 13:25:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Weirditude, dooods..... Message-ID: <200002272125.AA23481@crl.crl.com>
We're having a semi-serious discussion about Backstreet Boys on the Jam, and Bafu Vai (Bafu fuckin' Vai?!?!) is posting again. Weirdness!
Bafu "fucking idiot" Vai wrote:
> Maybe I need to make a roadtrip north sometime.
Nahh, roadtrip south! Atlanta or Orlando, bay-beee! (Seriously, BV, you've been missed....)
About playing just over-21 shows..... Nahhh. I've seen too many agonized posts from fans who'd miss out for no good reason. More reserved-seating shows would be cool, though. Hmmm, maybe we should have DT play Atlanta Symphony Hall next time thru here.... :)
(I can only think of one other band that has ever played there. Dead Can Dance were awesome.....)
DT here in 3.5 days.....it's almost time to start checking the weather forecast regularly. :)
NP: The Cruxshadows, "Sympathy (For Tomorrow)" nextP: Nevermore, "Dreaming Neon Black"
-- + Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com www.crl.com/~vanyel ICQ #4151223+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Godhead * Michael Moorcock * Changelings | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Storm Constantine * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Patrick O'Brian * Ozric Tentacles * Raymond Feist....|
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:47:54 +0000 From: Rachel Goldenberg <wisha@li.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: AGE (warning: Dream Theater content and stuff) Message-ID: <E12PBXd-0006ne-00@dfw-mmp2.email.verio.net>
I feel old sometimes *sigh*. My back and neck and shoulders (ok. my body) still are sore from being pushed around at last night's show. Now I'm reading the last jam where all the MINORS (no, not in the musical sense) were speaking out. It's not really how old you ARE but how old you ACT that matters. I have some younger cousins who are very cool so I have nothing against people younger than me. Sure, I'd selfishly love if the crowd I was surrounded (great song) by was comprised of my age group (20 - 30 somethings), but that's another story for another day (another incredible song btw). As for picking locations on where to view a concert. Easier said than done. ]From early on, I learned that there are some really tall DT fans and sure they have every right to stand as close as they want blah blah blah. At a show as crowded as last night's it is not practical to move an inch, yet alone move away from a group of people. After one swaying of the crowd I had to laugh because I was spun around facing the back of the sold out crowd. This is why seated venues work. My thoughts on the Star People... The music was interesting. Better than some opening acts. I didn't like the fact that they treated me like a child (am I allowed to say that on this list?? ;) beating me over the head with the premise of we're from planet X (no, not THAT planet X, sorry I wasn't paying enough attn to remember the planet they hail from) and the story line. Maybe bands like DT spoil me with their lyrics. Shrug. Will I buy their cds or see them again- probably not. After a while of their playing I was eager for the show to move on and happy when it did. That's all for now. On a side note - maybe tomorrow I'll get the fan club cd. Would really be unfortunate 'If I die tomorrow' but.... 'I'll be alright' Or something. Take care... -Rachel
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:29:58 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: BSBoys Message-ID: <d2.13901e5.25eaff66@aol.com>
<< Well, I have decided to throw my opinions on the "music" of the BSB, etc. I have actually heard that they write their own material, but I am not completely sure of the validity of that statement. >>
]From what I've been told, the Backdoor Boys didn't write any stuff on their first album and wrote 2 songs on the second album, neither of which will be a single most likely! -Mike C.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:38:18 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The hand signal Message-ID: <4d.1ad0644.25eb015a@aol.com>
Has anyone seen the new DT hand signal? What's that all about? Mike kept flashing it during the show and there was also a graphic for it on the TV screens. since when has this been a dream theater thing?
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:59:09 EST From: Babyfr10@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Dance Message-ID: <50.21534c8.25eb063d@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/27/00 7:51:51 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << most people like simple catchy tunes to rotate torsos by... DANCING: A vertical expression of horizontal desires. >>
That's like saying tall music is the same - only people who know nothing about music would say it. I'm a dancer and I now know that you aren't too familiar with dance AT ALL. There are so many different types of dance and people who devote their entire life to this artform much like musicians do to music. I'm a dancer and a generalization like that couldn't be ignored. The saddest part about society is the simplicity we tend to cling to and the way the record companies feed to that - but don't blame the more simplistic tastes of others solely on dance - it goes so much deeper than that.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:35:14 -0500 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: DT "Streams of Consciousness" 2CD Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20000227183514.0079e4c0@mail.erinet.com>
For sale:
Dream Theater - Streams of Consciousness" 2CD $40 (originally $50) Original painted disc Mike Bahr bootleg. Color liners. In excellent condition.
Recorded live in Los Angeles, CA. November 11, 1997 - Soundbard.
SHIPPING INCLUDED.
Tracks: DISC 1- 1. Lines in the Sand 2. Burning My Soul 3. Voices 4. Under a Glass Moon 5. Hollow Years 6. Puppies on Acid 7. Innocence Faded 8. Just Let Me Breathe 9. Peruvian Skies 10. Pull Me Under
DISC 2- 1. Scarred 2. The Darkest of Winters 3. Ytse Jam 4. New Millenium 5. The Inevitable Summer 6. The Crimson Sunset 7. Metropolis Part 1 8. Perfect Strangers (Nightmare Cinema - all switched instruments) 9. It's Mine, But You Can't Drive It (Mike Portnoy on vocals) 10. Metropolis Part 1 (Reprise) 11. Surrounded (Mike Portnoy on vocals!!!)
If interested, email me.
Dan
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:28:17 -0500 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: DT Christmas CD 1997 Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20000227182817.0079c510@mail.erinet.com>
For sale: Dream Theater - DTIFC Christmas CD 1997 $25
SHIPPING INCLUDED.
If interested, email me.
Dan
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:27:36 -0500 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: DT "Burning My Soul" promo Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20000227182736.0079c100@mail.erinet.com>
For sale: Dream Theater - Burning My Soul radio promo $15
SHIPPING INCLUDED.
Tracks: 1. Radio Edit 2. LP Version 3. Audio Bio
If interested, email me.
Dan
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:52:17 -0500 From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Roseland show...and some venting Message-ID: <DBBCCAAE46DE3D11DAED000A9C4B95C0@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
I must say the Roseland show kicked serious ass. I met a fellow (or former? dont know if he's still on the list) jammer, Brian Larkin on line. Also ran into someone who was into Helloween and Stratovarius...pretty cool :-)
The Star People were...interesting, to say the least; their sound reminded me a little of King Crimson. The violinist was very impressive (in more ways than one - those hip movements!) and attracted a small following in front of her. The guy standing in front of me actually took his shirt off and threw it at the stage...the roadies did eventually give it back though.
The Dregs were astounding. I have one of their albums (Night of the Living Dregs) and was pleased to hear that they played The Bash off of it. Morse and the violinist (cant remember his name) had some pretty sick dual leads. I'll definately be getting more of their CDs.
Finally, DT went on. They were flawless (that I could hear anyway). Petrucci played his Musicman on every song with the exception of Home, TDoE and OLT (6 string Ibanez in dropped D and 7 string, respectively). IMO, he stole the show. The guy was just blazing straight through and took a PHENOMIAL solo at the begining of Through her Eyes.
It was a really great night with only minor flaws. For one thing, the guy who felt he had to light up his hash pipe right next to me during the dregs set (I have nothing against anyone doing it, the smell just makes me sick), and some idiots crowd surfing. The mosh pit which opened up right next to me during PMU didnt really bother me, but when Im trying to concentrate on the show, I really dont want to worry about some guy kicking me in the head (which nearly happened).
Another thing...
> * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all- ages > shows.
Well D-man, Im 16 (nearly 17), and so were my friends that went to the show. We acted pretty respectible, got into the music just as much as the people around us. Ive been a huge DT fan for 3 years and Petrucci is my personal guitar god...Im not supposed to have the chance to see them because of some stupid age limit based on the fact that the venue serves alcohol? Like any other age group, theres mature, intelligent people and stupid, ignorant people. I personally think I acted much more well mannered than the retards that started crowd surfing, or the one idiot who tried to start a mosh during BTL when it was quite obvious no one else around him wanted to. You were obviously a teenager once, how would you feel if you werent allowed to see your favorite band just because of that reason?
BTW - thought I should mention: If anyone saw me, Im about 5' 7", shoulder length brown hair, wearing glasses and a leather jacket. I was in the 3rd "row" and to the right, about in front of the TV set near where JP was.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:03:03 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Moore <rushzil2112@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Message-ID: <20000228000303.6020.qmail@web1105.mail.yahoo.com>
I agree that there are a lot of bands out there that play what they want too, but they just don't get too popular. But there is one band that is real popular, and they do whatever they want too. Guess, Rush. IMO, I think that they are the ultimate prog band. I can't say the DT is OFB. Cause rush just happens to be my favorite.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:32:11 -0300 From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: REVIEW: Star People/Dregs/DT at Roseland, NYC Message-ID: <4152A3C983DE3D11DACD00807CFD5BDB@randy_rhoads.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
>Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages >shows. There was a group of about 6 15 year olds behind me.
Man, I'm sorry, but you are being stupid here... These kids (look at me, calling people 4 years younger than me kids... hehehe) spent the same amount of money to get their tickets as you... They have the same right to see a band they like as you... No way you can ask somebody to stop playing all-ages concerts just because it bothered you... I've been to lots of concerts where people who were beside me screamed when they shouldn't, jumped and moved when they shouldn't... It bothered me, but hey, it's their right to do that... I'm sorry if you didn't enjoy the show as much as you wanted because of these people, but you can't ask for that just because it bothered you...
><< * Kevin never took a keyboard solo. And the only things that were > ever close didn't have a sequenced rhythm track. I don't like that > gay carnival-music break in TDOE to begin with, but to turn it into > a 5 minute keyboard wank fest absolutely ruined it for me. Jordan's > more technically impressive than just about any keyboardist I've > ever seen (and I knew I felt that way seeing RMP open for DT 4 > years ago), but there's a time and a place, you know? >> > >Well, I think this was just to give the other guys a break. Its >gotta be really draining to do that whole album live so the only >chance for a break they can get is with that keyboard solo, so I >looked at it in that perspective. Sure, Jordan gets no break, but >hell, he's the new guy! lol > -Mike C,
Could it be that Jordan's solo is there as a sort of way to introduce him to the fans? That'd be my guess...
Moving on to another subject, I've seen that a few people here are also Napster users... Gotta ask you something: is it usually very slow or am I the only one having this problem? I mean, there are some GREAT songs there, but it's taking 3 times as long as it would in a regular mp3 server...
Later, Adriano
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