YTSEJAM Digest 5353

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5353

    Today's Topics:

      1) when elders return
     by Uroborosss@aol.com
      2) lorenza ponce
     by Uroborosss@aol.com
      3) ROSELAND!!!!!!
     by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
      4) Roseland last night, SFaM review, etc etc etc.
     by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
      5) FW: Euro tour tickets
     by Marie.Donnell@agso.gov.au
      6) All Ages? You Know What to do...
     by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351
     by "Adam Yarter" <jaguirre@ix.netcom.com>
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351
     by "Adam Yarter" <jaguirre@ix.netcom.com>
      9) DVD
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
     10) Re: Mike and Rod Appearences
     by Joel Timmins <timmins@dca.net>
     11) Philly show review
     by "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
     12) oh fuck!!!
     by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351
     by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
     14) happy birthday
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <tack@sockets.net>
     15) A new website
     by "A_Change Of_Seasons" <sacredjade@hotmail.com>
     16) QR tribute
     by Fett2002@aol.com
     17) stratojen-ndtc
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
     18) Chiaroscuro
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
     19) Put Brain in gear, please, Mosh
     by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
     20) Re:YTSEJAM digest 5347
     by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
     21) Order new Strato from boxman.fi, cheap!
     by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
     22) RE: 21st Century Fox
     by "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com>
     23) Update at Jon Finn's site
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
     24) All-ages shows.
     by "Steve Graham" <steveg@gekay.com>

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:21:54 EST
    From: Uroborosss@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
    Subject: when elders return
    Message-ID: <da.1c199f1.25eb27b2@aol.com>

    > From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
    > Subject: Re: backstreet milla wisha merlo
    >
    > Bafu?! In total bafflement, I looked through my archives and came up with
    > two message in the past month: This one, and one yesterday. When the hell
    > did you resub? Nice to see you again!

    As part of a massive mind-control operation orchestrated by Mike Portnoy,
    several of the Ytsejam old-timers have resubscribed in recent weeks. I felt
    the Quickening as did the others. It's a subconscious thing. We are powerless
    to resist. :)

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:28:52 EST
    From: Uroborosss@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, jjens@webzone.net
    Subject: lorenza ponce
    Message-ID: <84.1f6915b.25eb2954@aol.com>

    > From: jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net>
    > Subject: taping and tapping
    >
    > i twisted his arm at the DC show. BV: how's the Ponce cd?

    Very ethereal, and nothing like the classical solo she did onstage. Like she
    said when she signed it, "It's music to smoke pot to." I found out AFTER the
    concession stand had closed that she also plays on the Star People cd, even
    though she isn't pictured on the back with the rest of the band.

    And my arm still hurts from when you twisted it. Did you learn that move from
    Jake "The Snake" Roberts??

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:27:01 -0500 (EST)
    From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: ROSELAND!!!!!!
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.10002272018180.16804-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>

    My first DT show since the first leg of the FII tour. Some thoughts:

    - Holy crap! There were a shitload of people there! Very
    cool....unfortunately my douchebag friend got to my house late, so I wound
    up missing everything up to Cruise Control by the Dregs. At least I
    didn't have to wait in line that long......

    - My friend got a photo pass for the show, and he took about 100 or so
    shots during the beginning of the show. Once he gets them done, I'll post
    the link up to everyone here, along with a review of the show.....

    - I'm sorry I missed everyone from the 'Jam. I was lucky enough to bump
    into YtseJim though, so my streak of meeting Jammers at every show I've
    been to is still running strong..... I wound up watching DT at soundboard
    level along the left-hand side. Not bad at all. I'm kinda short, so the
    goddamn tree-people who always wind up in front of me kinda made it suck
    every once in a while, but I was able to move around and see everything.
    Plus, it gave my calves a good workout.

    - The sound was phenomal - best for a show that I've seen. Everyone,
    including James, was dead-on-balls accurate. Killer killer show.

    - Rumors were flying that Chris Jericho (WWF Intercontinental Champion)
    was going to be at the show (he mentioned it on his website as well).
    YtseJim told me he was at the bar, and I missed him by minutes. Anyway,
    I'm watching DT, and my friend goes, "Hey, I think that's Jericho up
    there". Sure enough, in the balcony on the left-hand side, Y2J himself
    goin' absolutely apeshit on the airdrums throughout the entire show (and
    not a bad job either!). Very very cool to see a pretty famous person
    enjoying the show, clapping along with the band, looking over to see the
    crowd reaction to the show.......

    That's basically it. I wish I was able to meet more of the Jammers (I was
    lookin' for ya, D-man)......next time, I'll try and get all the people
    coming with me to get their own damn tix!

    Later,

    Al

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:30:25 -0500
    From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Roseland last night, SFaM review, etc etc etc.
    Message-ID: <20000227.203033.-1035089.0.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>

    Never heard the Dregs before - all I gotta say is DAMN!!!

    >> That song thatsounded like some blue grass was insane!
    >>
    > It's called 'the bash', and it's a medly of two bluegrass standards:
    The
    > Wabash Cannonball and Rocky Top

    Dude, the Dregs ROCK!! The closest thing I've ever heard to any of their
    music is Steve Morse's version of "Joy to the World" on Merry Axemas vol.
    1. That "The Bash" song was fuckin' cool! And "Cruise Control" at the end
    was absolutely amazing. During "The Bash," there were these two pretty
    boy wooses in front of me looking at each other like "how queer is it
    that they're playing bluegrass." (now, that really gets me, let's go to a
    prog metal show and completely dis the opening band's musicianship) I
    loved it - I could have watched the Dregs all night. I'd drive six hours
    again to see them play in a heartbeat.

    > -Banjoman wonders if there could possibly be ANOTHER bluegrass fan
    on
    > this list =^)

    I like instrumental bluegrass. I can't take that nasal singing, though.

    I must echo previous posters: both Steve Morse's personality and
    musicianship on stage were amazing. Great guitarist and very humble and
    appreciative of the fans and DT. I got to meet Rod Morgenstein out back
    after the show; he, too was a very, very likable guy. The first thing he
    did was shake everybody's hand and take pics with everybody.

    The only bad thing about their set, which was an extremely minor thing,
    was the two boobs manning the spotlights. Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder
    could have done a better job. (oh, gee, let's take the spotlight off
    somebody just as they being their solo - duh!) But the band more than
    made up for it.

    > Well, I read that review posted on the net, and I am not shocked at
    all.
    > Niether am I mad. <blah blah blah> That sets me apart from the
    > morons who listen to Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys. I welcome
    that.
    > I'm sure some of my fellow Jammers will agree.

    Yes, definitely. Whereas they are reduced to mindlessly bobbing along
    with cheap, perfunctory music with little or no musical structural
    integrity, we fans of Dream Theater not only have the mental capacity to
    comprehend and appreciate a complex, grandiose piece of music in its
    entirety, but also to break down that composition and scrutinize every
    minute detail with exacting precision in order to realize an even greater
    appreciation for it.

    > I hate it even more when a truly great song is ignored by
    > the masses simply because most people like simple catchy tunes to
    > rotate torsos by... DANCING: A vertical expression of horizontal
    desires.

    Rotating torsoes? That was about the only redeeming quality of the Star
    People's stage show. There music was ok; the violin player chick was
    pretty good (and she was hot, too!) I don't know whose hand was rubbing
    against my butt the whole night, but I'm allowing myself to believe it
    was hers. :-)

    >* They sold out the Roseland. Great for DT, crappy for us. Can
    > anyone say Birch Hill? Guys, it's time to start playing venues with
    > seats. I think they could probably fill the Beacon now. My back
    > and my knees are still going "Hey, what the fuck?" four hours after
    > leaving the place.

    HAHA! You wanna talk about a backache? I'm 6'5" tall and rode 6 hours in
    a Subaru Loyale (pint-sized 4-wheel drive rust bucket), parked right
    behind the venue, then my dad says "Hey, let's walk to Grand Central
    Station and see the newly refurbished ceiling." What he didn't bother to
    tell me was that it was 30 blocks round trip - (that we managed to pull
    off in an hour and still get back in time to see the Star People). Thank
    GOD they had those benches on the side.

    >> I mean, some people like cars simply because they are red, not
    >> because they have a 400hp engine in them.
    >
    >I like cars that can go back in time and leave flaming tire-tracks. The
    >ability to press "turbo boost" and jump over canyons means little to me.

    ONE POINT TWENTY ONE GIGAWATTS!!!!! :-)

    Ok, time for a DT review:

    My raves about the show:
    The video was good (except for the text)
    Lighting was good.
    Sound was great.
    James was, to quote Marissa Tomei in My Cousin Vinnie, "Dead balls on"
    DT rocks! What more can you say?

    My bitching about the show:
    It wouldv'e been nice of they had played a little longer. I also wasn't
    overly thrilled when I waited out back in the cold for over an hour just
    to have JP blow off the entire crowd. He looked absolutely terrified of
    all 30 of us. (anybody know what was going on?) Then Rod Morgenstein came
    out - got to meet him (very nice guy), which is when I realized that my
    camera had crapped out royally, so I'll just wait and see how many pics
    develop. (If anybody was near the front left of the stage during DT, I
    was the really tall guy in the grey sweatshirt hopelessly beating the
    crap out of his camera trying to get it to work) I was gonna hang around
    and try to meet the whole band, but after JP took off and my camera died,
    I figured the hell with it and went home. Did anybody else get to meet
    them? If so, how many did you meet and how polite were they?

    I inadvertently got in the "guest list" line at first. (I thought it was
    kind of funny that only about 100 people sold out the show - until I
    realized that the line on the corner was NOT for a different show down
    the road) Aside from personally knowing the band, how does one go about
    getting on the guest list?

    At the end of the show, James said that he'd "see us this summer"...
    anybody know of an extended tour??? oooooo.........

    -Dan.
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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:42 +1100
    From: Marie.Donnell@agso.gov.au
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: FW: Euro tour tickets
    Message-ID: <52113C81E9ACD31182D40060B0570D9B366D4C@agsomail1.agso.gov.au>

    >Despite my lengthy post giving numerous links to websites for just
    about every country on DT's European tour Marie Donnell still
    posted the following:

    Hey! No need to get upset :(

    I just dont always have time at work to read every single entry on the
    ytsejam
    or search the web for that matter! I only have the internet at work.
    I was just simply asking for some help, sorry to be any hassle :(

    Thanx for the info!
    Marie

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:35:37 -0800 (PST)
    From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: All Ages? You Know What to do...
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000227183300.24748A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>

    > Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages
    > shows. There was a group of about 6 15 year olds behind me. One of
    > the guys, I swear to Christ, had more equipment to smoke his pot
    > than I do to play bass. And one of the little girls kept screaming
    > in my ear, but at all the wrong times. During the quiet parts, it
    > was either this bitch screaming (Crim fans: think of that noise at
    > the beginning of LTIA2), or talking overly loud with her little
    > friends. I was tempted at numerous times to turn around and slap
    > her in the mouth.

    See, this is sad... just becuase *you've* forgotten what to do with a
    15-year-old girl doesn't mean the rest of us have. i say let there be
    all-ages show! 15 and under Girl's section next to the 40+ Men's
    section. Then everybody wins.

    --Matt ("the best thing about dating a 12-year old is that if you pull
    their hair back in the shower, they look 10")

    PS: And if this didn't offend anybody, I'm unsubbing. ^_^

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:01:00 -0800
    From: "Adam Yarter" <jaguirre@ix.netcom.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351
    Message-ID: <001101bf8198$1ac20c00$7223fea9@adamyart>

    * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages
       shows.
    That's real nice -- I'm 17 - should I not be able to go to see Dream
    Theater? Fact of the matter is, I was more into it than at least half of the
    older people there. That's just wrong.

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:05:15 -0800
    From: "Adam Yarter" <jaguirre@ix.netcom.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351
    Message-ID: <001201bf8198$a4ea64e0$7223fea9@adamyart>

    In response to Labrie fucking up his voice because he shouldn't be singing
    tenor, I actually think that you're wrong. The reason I think this is
    because when I spoke to him last, he had about the same voice tone as I. I'm
    a second tenor, borderline Baritone. However, I can still sing the "healthy
    A" that you were talking about, and still make my way up to the High E in
    "Under a Glass Moon" and "Take the time", and even up to the high F ( 3
    lines above the staff) harmony during the "woah.. wooah woah" part after the
    solo in Learning to Live, Granted, that's a tough note, but with good
    technique it's fine. Most of Dream Theater's stuff lies in my vocal range,
    and I have a very similar voice to Labrie. So.. This is just to say he might
    NOT be damaging his voice..

    Latez..

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:02:52 -0500
    From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: DVD
    Message-ID: <38B9F36C.60480684@home.com>

    Ian said:
    > *Note to EastWest - tape this tour, and release it on DVD NOW!...DT deserves
    > it, and we'd buy it!*

    Hell yeah, I'd absolutely love to see a "Metropolis 2000" DVD.

    Damn that would rule!

    - Joe D.

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:45:26 -0500
    From: Joel Timmins <timmins@dca.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Mike and Rod Appearences
    Message-ID: <00036193fad4af21_mailit@smtp-relay.dca.net>

    At the Sam Ash in King of Prussia (near Philly) it was a signing, not
    a clinic. Mike and Rod sitting at a table with a long line of people
    in front of them. People had drumheads, CD booklets
    (covers?...whatever you call them), t-shirts, etc.

    And I'll throw in that both Mike and Rod were very friendly and very
    cool to meet. :)

    Joel

    >When Mike and Rod go to the music stores, are they holding a clinic
    >or just signing stuff.

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    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:48:38 -0500
    From: "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
    To: "Ytsejam@Torchsong. Com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Philly show review
    Message-ID: <NDBBJOAJEBLELDIGIBGMIEPMEEAA.td4235@ship.edu>

    ok, this isn't your average reivew. my friend, an english major decided to
    waste some time and write this. we were at the show friday night in philly.
    i found this interesting enough to post on the jam.
    so if you wish to contact him about his viewpoints his email is:
    ja5002@ark.ship.edu

    here's his images and words:

    Words. Mere words cannot begin to describe the jumbled
    and immaculate emotions having, what seems to be, Marti Gras in my
    head, the vibrations that race their course from my toes to what's left of
    my hair (damn the Army)...

                    These are a few of my fav-o-rite THINGSSS!! (as song in
    Sound of Music without that doe-female deer crap)

              I will but try and communicate the various feelings and ideas
    that bombarded me like the U.S over Nazi Germany, 1944. The tools I have
    to work with, these pathetic insturments of language are a hinderance
    instead of help. However, I am am English Major. I will use what's been
    provided. I was trained for this.

            There is something I would care to address before anything else,
    and that is the use of "themes" throughout the show. There were various
    "themes" directed towards yours truly, and may have a direct effect on him
    for the rest of his life. There was, for example, the ever-present theme
    of "Things rubbing against Josh's legs and buttocks." This was one of the
    more disturbing themes of the night. This, coupled with the theme of
    "Josh not being able to look down and see anything but blackness beyond
    his shoulders" led to a very uneasy and an unwarranted-promiscuos persona
    to settle over Josh. Ideas flowed like the Niagra river of what these
    "rubbing things" may be, and like the Niagra river came crashing down when
    Josh realized it was not, indeed, a cute blonde.

            Again, to address another theme there was a rather large supply of
    popel who were disproportional to eachother. These poeple suddenly
    decided to mate during the show. Josh was not sure what inspired this,
    although he did find John Pertucchi a "butt kicking, note smashing,
    bring-on-the-90's bands-and-let-me-musically-rape-them HERO," this was not
    cause to begin fornication of any kind. This is coming from THE
    Fornicator, an expert in all forms and styles of promiscuity. Not that
    he's proud of this...

            Ahem. Anyway, to move on there was a theme of stupidity. This is
    the kind of stupidity that runs genetically and the only hope for a cure
    would be to gather all the carries of such genes, put them in a pool, and
    throw in a toaster. I met a "carrier" of such a gene in the middle of the
    audience. He, with his 8' tall frame, and his (maybe, if she stretched)
    4'7 girlfriend tried to work their way to the front of the stage through
    one thousand insubordiante, rebellious, hot, sweaty, good looking (me) DT
    fans. I now refer back to the disproprtional people and sexual acts
    thesis of before. They, being the infected carriers of stupidity tried to
    do this by going UP THE MIDDLE of the entire crowd. All the while, this
    gargantuan hippie who wouldn't defend his country if Russia invaded,
    questions democracy, thinks Regan was bad for America, and probably abhors
    of all types of capatilism (which is probably why he smelled so bad),
    repeats time and time again over a crowd of ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE who now
    all have produced rope and are tying nousses, "My girlfreind can't
    see...can you see yet Honey?? Cay you?? She can't see...excuse me."

            I felt sorry becasue he couldn't help who he was and why he was
    born with such a dehibilitating disease such as stupidity, and directed
    him to get the hell off my shoe and over near the exit sign where he might
    be able to get up front (yeah right).

                    There are many more themes such as: John P. kicking butt
                                                        Jordan wailing on a
    keyboard (HOW?? It's a keyboard!!)
                                                        John M. being oblivios
    to everything going on around him while obviuously trying to give life to
    is bass guitar by creating electricity through the rapid movements of his
    fingers an injecting it into the base of the bass (yes, that word play was
    intended, and I don't care if it was hookey. Shutup.)
                                                        James singing. He was
    okay.
                                                        Mike Portnoy
    pretending his set was actually an antique hot rod and engaging in, what
    must've been, 85-95 mph sprints down Rt. 66. Also making faces at the
    crowd and spitting water on the lead singer. That was funny.

                                    These themes will be addressed in deatil
    later whn Thommy actually writes me back, proving that there is a God.

                            Josh "needs a new nickname" Albins
    ja5002@ark.ship.edu

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:19:13 -0500 (EST)
    From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com (Ytse Love-In)
    Subject: oh fuck!!!
    Message-ID: <200002280519.AAA08001@optical.mindstorm.com>

    I can't freakin' believe that I forgot to mention On The Leading Edge
    of Dave Plotkin in my post! A million apologies, dude! (And the guy
    stood right next to me the whole show. I think I must have
    that... what's it called? Oh, yeah, short term memory loss.)

    Crap, back to work tomorrow. :(
    -d "uhhh... uhhh... oh, yeah!" man

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:27:02 +1100
    From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351
    Message-ID: <38BA0725.378BAA34@alphalink.com.au>

    > Russia and eastern Europe seem to have turned out some of the
    > most interestng composers from the past century. My most
    > recent purchase in the classical vein was Stravinsky 'Firebird' /
    > Scriabin 'Prometheus'.

    Holst's planets are also pretty good songs. I don't get it with debussy
    though. I can understand he made progress with using different harmonys
    (chords built on 4ths and whatever), but I thought the original reason
    people didnt use them was because they sounded bad. Anyways. He does
    better than I could do.

    > > * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages
    > > shows.

    Thats funny I thought the idea of over age shows was to protect the YOUNG people
    from the OLDER people. You poor old man (maybe next time just wait till
    the video comes out and then you can enjoy the concert in the comfort of your
    living room). Last time I checked DT was a rock band, not the symphony orchestra.

    > Go ahead, call me a snob.. But I think we are the enlightened ones.
    > Most people never listen deeply enough to grasp the depth of a well
    > written song. I don't believe they make the connection between a well
    > written lyrics and the emotional reflections of a skilled musician....

    I dont think this is true at all. In fact I think many prog fans start to lose
    sight of the pure emotion of a song and instead find joy in analysing music.

    > When you ask the average person what emotion a particular song
    > invokes, they look at you like you're retarded.

     I dont think this happens.

    > I just don't understand how some people can get all warm and fuzzy

    > over lyrics alone. Particularly when the singer/musician is more concerned
    > with how cool he looks rather than focusing on making MUSIC.

     This was one of the things the grunge movement was all about. Whilst they
    didnt get round to focusing much on music, they did put a lot of effort into
    creating lyrics that mean something and got away from trendy dudes singing
    about chicks and cars.

    > out of this. Plus, remember, DT used him before he worked for Ricky "fake
    > latin music" Martin. Man, seeing people like Ricky Martin, makes me
    > realize that the popular music machine has infiltrated almost every style
    > of music out there.

    I think some of you should lay off Ricky a bit. He has actually been around for
    15 years or something, making the music he makes. Its always been his goal
    to bring latin music to the masses, an honorable goal i think, and he has done
    it well. I think it is more the fault of the masses who need latin music to be
    sung by a sex symbol and have a techno beat before they accept it.

    > << * Kevin never took a keyboard solo. And the only things that were
    > ever close didn't have a sequenced rhythm track. I don't like that
    > gay carnival-music break in TDOE to begin with, but to turn it into
    > a 5 minute keyboard wank fest absolutely ruined it for me. Jordan's
    > more technically impressive than just about any keyboardist I've
    > ever seen (and I knew I felt that way seeing RMP open for DT 4 years
    > ago), but there's a time and a place, you know? >>

     I say go for it Jordan. Listening to the bootlegs I thought his solo was
    awsome. Besides he is a new member to the band and many people
    going to concert wouldnt be internet/information nerds like us- many
    people might want to see his chops and creativity in action.

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:11:35 -0600
    From: "Dale R. Newberry" <tack@sockets.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Rob Doyle <rtd7f0@mizzou.edu>,
    Subject: happy birthday
    Message-ID: <95171643901@mail.socket.net>

    Just sending out a little (almost belated in a way) happy birthday to
    Adrian Smith of Iron Maiden who turns 43 today :).

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:07:43 CST
    From: "A_Change Of_Seasons" <sacredjade@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: A new website
    Message-ID: <20000228060743.7741.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Hello Fellow Jammers!

    I would like to announce my new website dedicated to Dream Theater.

    Please have a look.

    <http://members.xoom.com/sacredjade/>

    any feedback would be gratefully accepted at:

    <sacredjade@xoommail.com>

    Thank you
    poj
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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:36:43 EST
    From: Fett2002@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: QR tribute
    Message-ID: <c1.13f3c81.25eb8d9b@aol.com>

    Has anyone heard of a Queensrych tribute album? I heard something about it
    and was wondering if it's any good. For that matter, does anyone recommend
    the DT one? I haven't read too many endorsements on here about it.
                            -Mike C.

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:20:50 -0800
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: stratojen-ndtc
    Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB5843@ms.kallback.com>

    1. FYI, Statovarius-Infinite is now available for pre-order at CDNow for
    $11.99
        Grab a coupon and order one or two.
        coupons:
            http://i.am/deardeer or http://www.stormloader.com/deardeer
            http://finditnow.8m.com/
            http://cdshopper.cjb.net
    2. Does anyone else have Stratovarius-The Chosen Ones?
        It's a greatest hits cd. On the last track, Will the Sun Rise,
        the sound cuts off at 1:47, but the cd keeps playing until
        the supposed end of the song at 5:17. It is annoying, but
        it's not that big a deal because I have WtSR? on Episode.
        I was just wondering if anyone else's cd did that.
    3. I finally got The Johannson Brothers cd. It's got some cool
        stuff on it. Vocal songs, instrumentals, some with just
        drums and keys ala RMP. Also, a sweet cover of the Beach
        Boys Good Vibrations, complete with double bass drum a
        and Hammond solo. It also got me thinking that "exitations"
        is not a word.

    ~Trevor might listen to BSB if they did everything acapella and
        he never had to look at them. Did I say that out loud? :)

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:39:45 -0800
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Chiaroscuro
    Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB5844@ms.kallback.com>

    So I went to see them at a little bar north of Seattle and
    there were not very many people there. Mostly just friends
    and family of the three bands playing. I wore my DT-SFaM
    shirt (Thanks Deb!) which started several conversations.
    FYI, Chiaroscuro sounds kind of like a DT/NIN mix, with
    James-like vocals, two keyboardists, 7-sting guitar, 6-string bass,
    double-bass drums (well one drum, but with that pedal that makes
    it sound like two) etc. They put on a great show for the half dozen people
    that were there. Apparently, I was the first fans of thiers that
    wasn't family or friends. They asked where I got the cd and
    I told them moremetal.com and they said "so you're the one that
    bought it!" like they'd only sold one or something. :)
    Anyway, they are playing again on the 31st in Seattle.

    Trevor likes this band, but will stop talking so much about them
    so I will not become ostracized like a certain person overhyping
    a little band of Italian youngsters.

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    Date: 28 Feb 2000 11:16:24 -0000
    From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Put Brain in gear, please, Mosh
    Message-ID: <20000228111624.25205.qmail@whitfield.chek.com>

    >From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
    >Subject: Re: Websites, MP, UaGM, Petrucci rack

    <<Just as a note to anyone thinking of building webpages, I have only one thing to say. Any time I go onto a webpage and it whines at me for ten minutes before announcing it can't start MIDI sound, I find an e-mail address and flood their box. It's goddamned annoying! If we want MIDI sound, we'll ask for it, but if it's just there, it fucks up computers as badly as JAVA script!>>
    >
    >If you weren't such an idiot you'd just turn
    >your MIDI volume down.

    If you weren't such an overhasty idiot, you'd read the post you were replying to before hitting the "balls in blender" button. I don't have any problem with MIDI sound being available, I just hate it when people set it up to start playing automatically, becasue when I'm at computers in the learning centre here, they won't play MIDI sound. Instead they click and whine for ten minutes, and frequently crash completely.

    Read, think, THEN flame if necessary, Mosh. Not the other way around.

    ~Simon

     
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    http://www.buffymail.com

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    Date: 28 Feb 2000 11:31:26 -0000
    From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re:YTSEJAM digest 5347
    Message-ID: <20000228113126.27045.qmail@whitfield.chek.com>

    >From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
    >Subject: Re: A pair of dice & ACOS

    >Please tell me more. How is ACOS one song,
    >while SFAM is several? Because I

    That's pretty simple, really - ACoS was written as one coherent piece of music (although they then expanded it a little). I wouldn't refer to it as a song, really, it's a piece of music (same with TOT; LiTS is a song, just a long one)

    >I thought that was a particularly clever song,
    >seeing as in met1 he was blinded by a paradise
    >and in sfam they reveal that he was a drinker
    >and a compulsive gambler.. very fitting...

    Err...That was in ACoS, not Met1.

    ~Simon

     
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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:37:53 +0200
    From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Order new Strato from boxman.fi, cheap!
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000228133753.00938480@mail.surffi.net>

    Stratovarius - infinite Box (2CD) 69 FIM on www.boxman.fi
    (this won't help you much unless you live in Finland but anyways. :)

    op777
    Thoughts while Eating at McDonald's "...if people were actually shaped like
    those little "throw litter away" people-figures with the pointy limbs that
    appear on the boxes the burgers come in, they'd fall into gratings all the
    time and get stuck. But getting out of jail would be really easy." -Kevin
    Madden

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:24:33 -0500
    From: "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: 21st Century Fox
    Message-ID: <6D70903196D4D11190680008C728A61D026B1DED@HQEXS01>

    Has anyone who watches Futurama noticed that the logo at the end is for
    _30th_ Century Fox?

    Zircon the Blue

    >> I've often wondered,
    >> too, how much it would cost to purchase the Trademark for 21st Century
    >> Fox, just to piss of the company and make them pay me big bucks for it.
    >
    >Actually, I read somewhere that they had already bought the
    >trademark on that, just in case.
    >
    >Dunno about Century 22 Real Estate though.

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:39:02 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Update at Jon Finn's site
    Message-ID: <38BA8886.AE0695A2@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

    http://www.jonfinn.com/gigs.html

    Seems like he's all over the place over the next month or so.

    German jammers should try and check out Muzikmesse in Frankfurt. Between
    Finn, DT and Vanden Plas, Deutschland is looking pretty good in the
    month of April!

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    Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:43:18 -0500
    From: "Steve Graham" <steveg@gekay.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: All-ages shows.
    Message-ID: <s8ba435d.054@gekay.com>

    Hello everyone.

    This is my first post to the 'Jam. I've been a member for about 2 years =
    now and a DT fan since '92. I've been reading the posts regarding =
    underage attendance and want my opinion known about this issue. I saw my =
    first DT show when I was 20 in Providence, at the tail-end of the Awake =
    tour. This was the show that made me realize how awesome DT is, and =
    consequently, I've been to 5 shows since then, including the show last =
    week at Toad's. As all of you may or may not know, Toad's keeps the =
    underage from the overage by putting up a net to separate the two groups. =
    I found that I was just as annoyed by 30-year -olds pushing there way =
    around and being loud, obnoxious, and downright rude during the show. =
    Bottom Line: I think your going to experience annoying people at any =
    given show no matter what their age.

     I think expanding DT's younger fan-base is vital to their future success. =
     Had my first show been an over-21-only show, I may not be the DT fan that =
    I am today. I know it sound s corny, but I speak the truth. Just my =
    opinion. Let me know what you all think.

    Later,

    -Steve Graham

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