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    Today's Topics:

      1) nhbradio tonight
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5356
     by EdVaHaL316@aol.com
      3) Re: Backstreet Slamming Cakeholes.
     by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
      4) Bafu, where are you?
     by "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
      5) RE: Ricky Martin
     by "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com>
      6) Re: Backstreet Slamming Cakeholes.
     by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
      7) REMOVE
     by "Ash Housewares" <dizash@hotmail.com>
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5356
     by "Shane Rocke" <strummin6@hotmail.com>
      9) the pollresults 2000 are in
     by Andreas Schaefer <jerry@muc.de>
     10) Integrity? Since when do humans care about integrity?
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     11) Re: Stratovarius - "The Chosen Ones"
     by MTeiper@aol.com
     12) Give it to me baby Uh huh uh huh...
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
     13) Re: B'more show and Things I Hate Abouf OFB
     by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
     14) Re: Give it to me baby Uh huh uh huh...
     by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
     15) Re: A note about Dr. Who
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
     16) Passagio
     by Drew Schinzel <schi2299@fredonia.edu>
     17) Re: doctor mosh.
     by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
     18) Re: the pollresults 2000 are in
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
     19) Re: Rude behavior?
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     20) Musician jokes (NDTC)
     by "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
     21) Album 2000?
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     22) Fates warning DVD
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
     23) Re: Album 2000?
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     24) more ...a question
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
     25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5355
     by Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
     26) Re: when elders return
     by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:37:01 EST From: EdVaHaL316@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5356 Message-ID: <bc.1ee7b47.25ed95fd@aol.com>

    THE STAR PEOPLE SUCK!

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:17:05 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Backstreet Slamming Cakeholes. Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000229221705.017911d0@pi-r-squared.com>

    *Korg's rant snipped*

    Hey when I started this, my goal was not to proclaim an pretensions of musical authority, or to degrade people who agree with me. It was simply to rant about these corporate whores who are degrading the integrity of the music industry. IMO, it's not the fault of the people, nor even the Backstreet Boys, it's the executives. I agree, just because people don't seek out all the information at their fingertips, does NOT make them ignorant. It just means they have different priorities. I'm willing to bet you they DO seek the information on whatever they are actually interested in. It doesn't have to be music.

    All the same, they're spending their money on whatever cd's they happen to hear on the radio. Because of this, there should be some integrity in the music world, so that we're not bilking people out of their money with organized schemes such as BUILDING A BAND OUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO MUSICAL EXPERIENCE, AND SEEMINGLY NO LOVE OF MUSIC AT ALL!! This is the real problem with the Backstreet Boys. This wasn't a band of people that started because they were doing what they loved to do. They were hand picked because of their looks matched whatever the company's charts told them at the time, and put together for the sole purpose of making money. Bands like KISS may be in it for the fame, but at least they enjoy music, and they enjoy entertaining people. These record companies, and probly the Backstreet Boys themselves (though there, I admit to making an assumption) are interested in nothing more than conning people out of their cash.

    Yes, people WILL listen to what they like and will not listen to what they don't. However, they will also listen to whatever is marketed to them, because this is simply the easiest way they have of finding out what's new. Bands like the Backstreet Boys are designed with the philosophy of marketing, not entertainment. For every person who listens to bands like this, you'll find at least something in their collection that is personal and deeply entertaining to them (and that doesn't mean it has to be to everyone else). This is fine, but the marketing machine has got to stop.

    Oh, and Korg? I don't watch professional wrestling, but at least they're honest about it, and a lot of times, they believe in putting on the best show possible for their audience. This is at least some form of integrity. I hold the music industry to a higher standard of integrity (ARE YOU READING? NOT QUALITY! INTEGRITY!) then I do a form of entertainment which blatantly admits to falsifying all its events.

    Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai

    "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the opportunity." -Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:03:58 -0800 From: "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bafu, where are you? Message-ID: <010b01bf8300$e0b5c230$305ad9cf@gorilla.it.earthlink.net>

    Jeez Bafu, you're only back here a few days and you're already snapping up the EOJ's!!! How do you still do it?

    :-)

    Paul

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:19:20 -0500 From: "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Ricky Martin Message-ID: <6D70903196D4D11190680008C728A61D026B1E05@HQEXS01>

    >> >> I think some of you should lay off Ricky a bit. He has actually >> been around for 15 years or something, making the music he makes. >> Its always been his goal to bring latin music to the masses, an >> honorable goal i think, and he has done it well. > >Ahem, now all this is fine except 1 point. >Congratulations for him if he really is doing this for 15 years. Not >easy at all. >But the years were not what made him a star. <snip>

    Well, he's been a "star" in Latin America (and with Latinos in the US) for years. I don't think he's change his style anymore than anyone else who works with Desmond Child. The biggest difference being that his older albums were sung in all Spanish, whereas the newer stuff is in "Spanglish," thereby making it accessible to non-Latino Americans. Pretty much all of his music that has made it big outside his traditional audience was off of one album, so it was all recorded at the same time; this means that the ballads were recorded at the same times as all of the other songs that you've probably heard of his.

    -Zircon the Blue

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:48:39 -0600 (CST) From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Backstreet Slamming Cakeholes. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0002291645330.15063-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>

    On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Brad Plumb wrote:

    > All the same, they're spending their money on whatever cd's they > happen to hear on the radio. Because of this, there should be some integrity > in the music world, so that we're not bilking people out of their money with > organized schemes such as BUILDING A BAND OUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO MUSICAL > EXPERIENCE, AND SEEMINGLY NO LOVE OF MUSIC AT ALL!! This is the real problem

    Oh, so you know for sure that the Backstreets don't care about music? That's interesting. Do you hire these psychic powers out to the Sally Jesse show? You could make a killing.

    > Oh, and Korg? I don't watch professional wrestling, but at least > they're honest about it, and a lot of times, they believe in putting on the > best show possible for their audience. This is at least some form of > integrity. I hold the music industry to a higher standard of integrity (ARE > YOU READING? NOT QUALITY! INTEGRITY!) then I do a form of entertainment > which blatantly admits to falsifying all its events.

    Um, from the Partridge family to the Spice Girls to the Backstreets, nobody has tried to say that it's for real. The producers who put these things together willingly admit and talk about it, dude. Try and pay attention a little before you slag something, speaking of ignorance.

    -Brian

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:49:05 EST From: "Ash Housewares" <dizash@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: REMOVE Message-ID: <20000229224905.75512.qmail@hotmail.com>

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:54:09 CST From: "Shane Rocke" <strummin6@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5356 Message-ID: <20000229225410.98278.qmail@hotmail.com>

    please discontinue my subscription. Thanks. strummin6@hotmail.com

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:54:41 +0100 From: Andreas Schaefer <jerry@muc.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: the pollresults 2000 are in Message-ID: <4.1.20000229131302.0092aad0@mail.muc.de>

    The ytsejam pollresults for best album 2000 are in, her's the top 10:

    1. Transatlantic - SMTPe 2. Spock's Beard - The Great Nothing 3. Fates Warning - Album 2000 4. Chroma Key - Album 2000 5. Platypus - Ice cycles 6. Planet X - Universe 7. The Absolute Man - Leonardo 8. Savatage - Poets and Madmen 9. Ayreon - Universal Migrator 10. Amorphis - Album 2000

    Damn I should lay off of that peyote - damn visions. Was that too early for you guys? Well, I bet they'll look something like this...

    jerry

    P.S.: and to "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> *PLONK* you'll know what that means since you seem to be so intelligent

    reasons: - he never was able to figure out what the RETURN key is for - he wants to be a smartass and still acts like a newbie - his overall aggressive and offensive posting style

    -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Schaefer email: jerry@muc.de "And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and break- fast cereals, and fruit bats, and large -- " MP - HG ----------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:05:44 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Integrity? Since when do humans care about integrity? Message-ID: <002c01bf8309$854ca400$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>

    >integrity. I hold the music industry to a higher standard of integrity >YOU READING? NOT QUALITY! INTEGRITY!) then I do a form of entertainment

    Hmmm... Well... There is a prog label that manufactures bands for profit, too. Magna Carta? Maybe you've heard of them? Shit, every member of Dream Theater has sold out to them at one time or another. Maybe they're just an exception to the rule. It must be OK for a "talented" artist to sell out over one of these types of people:

    >PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO MUSICAL EXPERIENCE >AND SEEMINGLY NO LOVE OF MUSIC AT ALL!!

    You should be a little more open to watching VH1's Before the Music a little more and you'd realize how fucking bullshit that comment is. Many of these "manufactured" bands' members either were struggling in the music biz or were performing for years before hitting it big in the industry. That is a completely baseless comment and I have no idea where you even thought to gurgitate it from.

    Don't argue with me that the music industry is corrupt. You're preaching to the choir. But the music industry goes hand in hand with the average citizen. I'm sure if everyone took music as seriously as we do, the music scene would be a >little< different, but they don't, so the music industry can make its own mold.

    But even if, say, DT did get the promotion and advertising >we< feel they deserve, it still would not guarantee their success. You may think people are absolute sheep who will cow to the media's demands, but people still aren't going to listen to what they don't like. End of story. -- KorgX3 is through with this topic. NP: Celine Dion - A Decade of Songs.m3u

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:09:07 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Stratovarius - "The Chosen Ones" Message-ID: <d9.1c275c2.25edab93@aol.com>

    In a message dated 02/29/2000 10:06:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, adavidse@maths.uct.ac.za writes:

    << Happens on my copy as well. Glad to know it's not just mine. Well, at least there's about 73 minutes of music not counting WTSR?, so it's not too bad. It's the only Stratovarius album I have, how representative is it of their music? Also, anyone else think the cover art is awful? >>

    First off, yes the cover is horrible. :-) But fortunately, none of their other albums look like this. From what I understand, some of their concert shirts look like the Chosen Ones cover, but I wouldn't know for sure because I've never seen one.

    Secondly, I would say that Chosen Ones is pretty decent as far as giving you a basic idea of their sound and style, and it has several of their absolute classic songs on it, IMO. But, I would not say that it's one of those Greatest Hits albums where you have all the good songs on it so there's no need to buy any other albums. SOOO many incredible songs didn't make the album.

    And, as far as being "representative" of their music, it does contain some of their best ballads (Forever, 4000 Rainy Nights, etc.), some of their best all-out melodic thrashers (Black Diamond, Father Time, etc.), and some of their mid-tempo rockers (SOS, Kiss Of Judas, etc.) But, what's missing is any of their epic songs, probably due to time constraints. They've done some incredible epics over the years like Season Of Change, Destiny, Visions, and the like.

    So I would recommend that if you like the Chosen Ones, definitely check out their other CD's - especially Visions, Episode, Fourth Dimension, and Destiny. Oh yeah, their newest one "Infinite" is supposed to be incredible too, but I haven't heard it yet.

    Hope this helps... Matt T.

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:16:40 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Give it to me baby Uh huh uh huh... Message-ID: <38BC5357.D0004FB5@isd.net>

    << most people like simple catchy tunes to <<rotate torsos by... DANCING: A vertical expression of horizontal desires.

    Babyfr10 wrote: > That's like saying tall music is the same

    Bullshit!

    >- only people who know nothing about music would say it.

    What? Oh please.. I know a particular seventeen year old female that would swing her hips to the sound of a doorbell if the asshole pushing the button did it in a repetitive and rhythmic fashion. This same female can't stand music that uses real instruments. She prefers drum machines over a real drummer. The majority of her friends share her taste in music. Call me a prude... IMHO, once you've taken the MUSICian out of music...

    >I'm a dancer and I now know that you aren't too >familiar with dance AT ALL. There are so many different types of >dance and

    I can appreciate watching some bimbo with a room temperature IQ shake her groove thing as much as the next guy. :) Music? What music? Now don't all twisted on me.. I am quite aware that there are MANY other forms of dancing. As long as MTV and Soul Train keep featuring Silicone Sally doing what she does best, dancers will continue to get a bad RAP. (ooh, play on words <me snickers>)

    >people who devote their entire life to this artform much like musicians do to >music. I'm a dancer and a generalization like that couldn't be ignored. The >saddest part about society is the simplicity we tend to cling to and the way >the record companies feed to that - but don't blame the more simplistic >tastes of others solely on dance - it goes so much deeper than that.

    The dance crowd is the target audience for mainstream top 40. If the music buying public continues to settle for mediocrity with a beat, it's never going to get any better. Please don't take this post as a personal slam..

    /Al fucks on the first date.. To Metropolis Pt 1!

    -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:26:17 -0500 From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: B'more show and Things I Hate Abouf OFB Message-ID: <23274819226486@vwc.edu>

    At 07:12 AM 2/29/00 -0800, Matt Lough wrote:

    >9) I never seem to run into any of you people at shows--sniff :-(

    I suspect you and I were the only two from the list there; anyone else with plans to go seems to have bailed. ::harrumphing at a couple of specific people:: What weirded me out was that it was an all ages show... I was surrounded by hordes of teenaged boys. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing; I'm just used to DT crowds being comprised of men who can grow *beards*. hehehe

    It was a good show, though -- much better than the Xmas shows last year. Not that I could see much over the six footer who planted himself in front of me and six-foot-two baldy a few feet in front of him by the stage, and nowhere to move that it wouldn't be worse. I'm gonna shoot certain people for not making me listen to the Dregs before this -- I totally enjoyed them. As for DT, there's nothing I could say that wouldn't be redundant after a month of people seeing and reviewing...

    Jaime, for whom morning came MUCH too early...

    ---------------------------------------------- love is a strange thing it depends what one gives and sometimes to give means give someone away

    - Jane Siberry

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:31:11 -0600 (CST) From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Give it to me baby Uh huh uh huh... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0002291730200.18442-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>

    On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Al @ Switchcraft wrote:

    > /Al fucks on the first date.. To Metropolis Pt 1!

    Sheesh, like this guy's posts aren't obnoxious enough the first time around, now we get treated to them twice. ;P

    -Brian

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:44:13 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: A note about Dr. Who Message-ID: <38BC59CD.B0BCD438@home.com>

    Paul Weiss said: > And when I first saw the subject, I was expecting mention of K-9 at the > least.

    I think Romana posts here occasionally. Plus, I think The Master might actually be disguised as Dr. Mosh. ;)

    - Joe D.

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:18:57 -0500 (EST) From: Drew Schinzel <schi2299@fredonia.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Passagio Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.10.10002291911440.20447-100000@bluedevil.cc.fredonia.edu>

    > > << passaggio >> >> I looked this word up in the Dictionary and it didn;t have anything on it. >> What the fuck are you people talking about and can you explain this word to >> me. Thanks

    >Passaggio means "passage." It is the turning point in a singer's voice >where >they shift from chest to head voice. It is usually around a 4th. Mine >is around A to D above middle C. Kind of low, even for a baritone. I >can't sing for shit though.

    Hey, this is cool to know. Is that why whenever I'm singing a low, "breathy" part, everything is good, but when it goes up a note or two, my voice gets all uncontrollable and suddently higher ? I'm not a singer at all, so that's probably one reason, but this passage thing sounds like the technical description. So I'd have a really low passagio in other words, though I don't know if that's the correct way to term it.

    Example: in Scarred, when James is singing "well, we're not laughing," that would be his chest voice, and then the "How come you don't understand me?" would be his head voice ?

    Is there any way to ease the jerky transition for an amateur from chest to head voice, so if during a verse it gradually switched one's voice wouldn't just either go way up stay low, as it does now ?

    Excuse me if this isn't appropriate for the jam, but maybe some other jammers are wannabe singers like me and find this stuff interesting.

    Drew

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:35:28 -0500 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: doctor mosh. Message-ID: <38BC65D0.71C875FC@wezl.org>

    Wow...I'd be so utterly flattered if I were in Mosh's shoes and had Bafu write a badass synopsis of me...this is just beyond too cool...I think I'm going to start a Dr. Mosh fan club...or maybe even a church worshiping him...how utterly inspiring Bafu has been to all members of the Ytsejam...good to have ya back

    Uroborosss@aol.com wrote:

    > Pulled from the archives for the benefit of Simon and any other wondering > parties. Enjoy. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Subj: A Brief Word On Dr. Mosh > Date: 98-11-08 02:54:11 EST > ]From: Uroborosss@aol.com > To: ytsejam@ax.com > > These are my impressions, carven over a period of many years, of the man > they call Dr. Mosh. I'm sure he has a real name, but speaking it aloud would > be like challenging Portnoy to a long-distance beer-spewing contest - you just > don't do it because pain is the result. This post is primarily for anyone new > to > the list. It also serves as a refresher for anyone who's been here since the > beginning and has fallen under the hazy impression that Dr. Mosh is a nice > guy. Snap out of it.

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:36:49 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: the pollresults 2000 are in Message-ID: <97.273131a.25edc021@aol.com>

    >< The ytsejam pollresults for best album 2000 are in, her's the top 10: 1. Transatlantic - SMTPe 2. Spock's Beard - The Great Nothing 3. Fates Warning - Album 2000 4. Chroma Key - Album 2000 5. Platypus - Ice cycles 6. Planet X - Universe 7. The Absolute Man - Leonardo 8. Savatage - Poets and Madmen 9. Ayreon - Universal Migrator 10. Amorphis - Album 2000 ><

    After hearing some songs from Trans-Siberian Orchestra's newest one (Beethoven covers) at one of their shows, I'm really looking forward to this album, as well as Transatlantic, the new Spock's Beard, and the new Symphony X.

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:59:34 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Rude behavior? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002291958130.51893-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Brian Hansen wrote:

    > > At that point Ari told us that he was going to go wait in line at the > > Roxy and that we could cut in with him when we got there... Ari was > > one of the first twenty people in line - I could not believe it! > > Interesting. With all of the recent talk about "rude behavior" at > shows, you're telling us you took "cuts" at the front of the line? > That's usually considered pretty rude behavior. Did you and your > friends ask the 100/300/600(?) people in line if it was ok if you cut > in at the front?

    Well, I don't see this as any worse than a person waiting in the front of the line to buy tickets and having his friends get there later. I don't consider it rude, because we'd made the plans AHEAD of time, instead of walking up to him and saying, "Dude, do you mind if we cut in with you?"

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think. -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:01:15 -0300 From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Musician jokes (NDTC) Message-ID: <B3F91E78BFEE3D11DACD00807CFD5BDB@randy_rhoads.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    I remember a while ago some musician jokes were posted here in the jam, so I thought some of you might get a kick out of it... While fooling around Iron Maiden's website I discovered "Nicko's joke corner", in which, surprisingly enough, a few jokes can be found, some of which are said to have been written by him... And "part 1" of these jokes are drummer jokes, and it says there that a part 2, with bassist jokes is coming up... Anyway, I got a kick out of it, and I thought some of you might enjoy it...

    Later, Adriano

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:06:45 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Album 2000? Message-ID: <001001bf831a$6b8c2c00$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>

    >>< The ytsejam pollresults for best album 2000 are in, her's the top 10: > >3. Fates Warning - Album 2000 >4. Chroma Key - Album 2000 >10. Amorphis - Album 2000

    You know, not that the whole Millenium, 2000, x2k thing isn't overplayed, but I find it rather coincidental that these three bands chose the same bandwagoning album title, don't you? -- KorgX3 trolls for retards. NP: Savatage - Dead Winter Dead.mp3

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:12:46 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Fates warning DVD Message-ID: <38BC7C9E.19C034D0@yunque.net>

    I just got it, im watching it right now, and all im thinking is that even though i really want DT to make a DVD. I think they should wait until the time is right for them financially, so they can make a 5.1 dolby digital or DTS dvd w/ tons of features. The fates dvd is cool..but aside from the fact that you can skip tracks, theres nothing there couldnt be on a vhs...its not specially long, it doesnt have features, and the sound SUCKS. Hell the sound in the APSOG VHS is better than this. I hope DT isnt rushed into making a dvd..(not saying that FW was, but you get my point)

    Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home It)Bīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:18:41 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Album 2000? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002292017360.51893-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Korg Ecksthrey wrote:

    > You know, not that the whole Millenium, 2000, x2k thing isn't > overplayed, but I find it rather coincidental that these three bands > chose the same bandwagoning album title, don't you?

    It's kind of annoying that everybody is using this whole damn "2000" thing.

    > KorgX3 trolls for retards.

    Trolls for rewards? Dude, get out from underneath that bridge and just get a real job. :)

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "No one wants to fuck with a crazy person. If someone tries to mug you, The best thing you can do is take out your money, and piss on it while mumbling and ranting. Chances are, they'll get scared and leave you alone. Of course, you'll have to wash your money." - Norman Calkin, on urban survival -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:22:15 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: more ...a question Message-ID: <38BC7ED6.450B851E@yunque.net>

    Btw, can anyone tell me what band was all the audience there to see (dynamo festival) The audience response is almost null!!!! Its sad to look at !! such a big audience too..

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    Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home It)Bīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:18:48 -0800 From: Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5355 Message-ID: <38BC9A28.3569E032@home.com>

    > I FINALLY got my christmas cd today, and the package looks like it's > been > under water for a few weeks. And, the pages of the book are stuck > together and the cd has all this noise in it now. So...I'd be willing > to pay anybody for their trouble if they were to burn me a copy. It's > torture to have the tracklist here and not hear the cd! ugh. can > somebody please help?

    >> Hmm why not contact the fan club about a possible replacement ?

    >>gaz

    You MIGHT have to wait about ANOTHER 6 months before you get it though... LOL!

    Angelo

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    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:26:29 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: when elders return Message-ID: <38BC71C5.5BED3B16@imap1.asu.edu>

    Uroborosss@AOL.COM wrote:

    > As part of a massive mind-control operation orchestrated by Mike Portnoy, > several of the Ytsejam old-timers have resubscribed in recent weeks. I felt > the Quickening as did the others. It's a subconscious thing. We are powerless > to resist. :) > > Bafu Vai

    If you're really old school, you'll remember that Bafu Vai's origins were from inside a broken down middle 19th century neo classical garage; a music critic cyborg designed in collaboration with Mike Portnoy and MIT robotics engineering school drop outs for the sole purpose of making the Ytsejam mailing list entertaining when D-Man's Hootenanny power wanes.

    Pretty soon developers' egos got a bit crowded, and a few bets were made, "I can design a funnier robot than you can! I can do anything you can do better!" And the KorgX3 was eventually unleashed to the masses of the Ytsejam community. Some argue that the original can't be beat.

    But me?

    I like muffins. My blueberry muffins.

    ~Darth Eckie

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