YTSEJAM digest 5274

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Fri Jan 21 2000 - 06:53:56 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5274

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Bands That We ALL Like
     by Fett2002@aol.com
      2) re: Bands That We ALL Listen To...Pt.2
     by Fett2002@aol.com
      3) RE: Someone everyone likes
     by Diablo6491@aol.com
      4) Band NONE of us like to listen to, more likely...
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
      5) Fix for '96 revisited.
     by "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net>
      6) sorry for the HTML!!
     by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      7) Pain of Salvation and Ice Age
     by Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5272
     by "Daniel T. Chen" <chenda@cs.unc.edu>
      9) 90 best CDs of the 90s!
     by glyde@conk.com (Dave Peterson)
     10) Re: Bozzio Drum Setup
     by "James C. Shields" <jimbob13@mail.utexas.edu>
     11) Dave's on the Jam!
     by glyde@conk.com (Dave Peterson)
     12) Re: 90 best CDs of the 90s!
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5273
     by Stixntrixx@aol.com
     14) RE: 90 best CDs of the 90s!
     by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
     15) Re: Angra in the states...
     by BloodMystX@aol.com
     16) Bands Everyone Loves
     by Awake77@aol.com
     17) Re: Bands Everyone Loves
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
     18) On Venues
     by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersv.edu>
     19) RE: Band Everyone Likes
     by Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
     20) Re: Nightwish Oceanborn
     by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu>
     21) Re: Terry setup
     by "Charlie Hamilton" <charlie@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
     22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5273
     by MOSSMAN BENJAMIN ERRAMOUSPE <Benjamin.Mossman@Colorado.EDU>
     23) Minneapolis DT show Feb 11th
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
     24) Bands everyone likes
     by "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com>
     25) Re: Band Everyone Likes
     by Bunny1682@aol.com
     26) ramblings
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     27) Magnolia/movies of the year
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
     28) "Only A Matter Of Time"?
     by "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com>
     29) Re: "Only A Matter Of Time"?
     by "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:05:24 EST
    From: Fett2002@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Bands That We ALL Like
    Message-ID: <30.6f9491.25b8e0a4@aol.com>

    >> I wonder if there is a band (other than Dream Theater) that everyone on
    > >this list likes? I vote for Led Zep.

    >Nope. Led Zep S U C K S. Go ahead and try to convince me otherwise.

    >I'm sure Mike Bahr would agree with me. :)

    >Steve Z

    Well, I would have thought that Zep would have been the most likely choice on
    this but apparently not! Since this is the case, I seriously doubt if there
    is one other band that everyone likes. If there WAS one, it probably would've
    been Zep.
                                                                -Mike C.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:08:41 EST
    From: Fett2002@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: re: Bands That We ALL Listen To...Pt.2
    Message-ID: <73.93db19.25b8e169@aol.com>

    >My vote would have to be for Led Zep as well.....I'll also venture to guess
    >that everyone on this list likes Rush as well(?)
    >Stephen La Monica

    To quote fellow ytsejammer Trevor, "Bzzzzzzzz. Wrong. Thanks for playing.
    Please drive thru....."
                        -Mike C., who's in no rush to ever listen to Rush.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:32:09 EST
    From: Diablo6491@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: RE: Someone everyone likes
    Message-ID: <52.781fd6.25b8e6e9@aol.com>

    << Chalk up 2 for Zeppelin...
     I also like The Afghan Whigs...
     Jon

     On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:40:46 -0800 (PST) mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
     writes:
    >
    > I wonder if there is a band (other than Dream Theater) that
    > everyone on
    > this list likes? I vote for Led Zep. >>

    PErsonally, I think Zep blows:> If I had to vote for someone, it would
    eaither be Metallica(like someone said, most people like enough matieral by
    them to fill a disc), Savatage(same idea with them), or myabe even like an
    actual Prog style band like FAtes Warning . . . although I can bet a lot of
    people dont like them either which is a shame.

    RaY

    np: Hunchback of Notre Dame soundtrack

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:53:22 -0700
    From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Band NONE of us like to listen to, more likely...
    Message-ID: <001001bf6399$2f9fa140$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>

    >To quote fellow ytsejammer Trevor, "Bzzzzzzzz. Wrong. Thanks for playing.
    >Please drive thru....."

    OK. With 1000+ people on this list, there are not going to be any
    universally shared traits (in the abstract vein, yes, we all have brains,
    well, most of us anyway), I doubt that you will EVER find any band, food,
    drink, toilet paper, contraceptive foam, comic, tongue depressor, plumbing
    contractor, deity, or Aesopian fable that we all can agree on.

    I think it's somewhat safe to say that we all like Dream Theater here (which
    is still pushing things) and that is >all< that should be assumed, imo.

    --
    KorgX3 thinks Dream Theater almost sucks, but this place rocks. :)
    NP: Celine Dion - A Decade of Songs.m3u
    

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:51:28 -0600 From: "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net> To: "ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Fix for '96 revisited. Message-ID: <000901bf6390$830449c0$2d1ee2d8@jeremyku>

    Hey guys, I was just curious if any of you out there were at the Toad's Place show in December of 1996, about 8 months before FII was released. The show was put together as a way for DT to loosen up before going into the studio and to keep the loyal fans from rioting. Anyways, if my memories serves me correct, the show was killer but had far too many opening acts. One of these opening acts (if I remember correctly) was a band called "The Beth Hart Band". This girl reminded me of Janice Joplin and several other vocally charged rock-women. She rocked the house (despite the fact that she was on stage about 30 minutes too long). <just wait, the point of this rambling will be apparent in a moment> After years of not hearing of the bands name (ever again) and thus, I was searching the sight of the Cains Ballroom (in Tulsa Oklahoma) because it my most local concert hall (I moved from New Hampshire to further my education in Oklahoma) and who is on the bill for a show in February but Johnny Lang with THE BETH HART band. Just thought that I'd share this will you :) Amazing how the past bites you in the ass sometimes. I never thought that I'd actually hear of a band in Oklahoma other than a country ack (RALPH!). Later, J Jeremy Kube Junior Transfer Oklahoma State University Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology Major inflammabl@aol.com kube@fullnet.net "Sex is Death, Death is Sex. It says it right here on my crucifix!" Dream Theater.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:40:31 -0500 From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: sorry for the HTML!! Message-ID: <E0516AE967FC3D11DACD0005B803B365@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    before everyone jumps on my case, I'd like to apologize for the HTML format of my last email :-P Im not used to the new format DTmail is using, and I forget to uncheck "send as HTML"

    Wont happen again! :-D

    Matt Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:41:52 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Pain of Salvation and Ice Age Message-ID: <200001202341.SAA16725@polaris.sju.edu.sju.edu>

    Over my winter recess I purchased Pain of Salvation OHbtCL and am seriously impressed....thanks for the tip a month or so ago from everyone on the list. Another cd I bought on a whim is Ice Age, the Great Divide, another great cd. Does anyone else like this disc?

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:43:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel T. Chen" <chenda@cs.unc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5272 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10001201835280.27549-100000@eagle.cs.unc.edu>

    On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 glyde@conk.com (Dave Peterson) wrote:

    > Someone posted some great web-sites featuring women vocalists in metal > bands a few jams ago and I checked them out and ran across several I've never > heard of, or have never yet heard. If you have any information (what they sound > like, which album to start off with, etc.) please post away! > > The bands that I'm asking about are: > * The 3rd and the Mortal

    I have _Tears Laid in Earth_, which is an excellent album nearly on par with Tristania's _Widow's Weeds_. Seems to be a bit mellower, but I attribute this opinion to the fact that I've been listening to the new Tristania and Enigma lately. :P

    > * Dreams of Sanity

    _Masquerade_ seems a bit effusive; I don't really care all that much for this album, but heck, it's a billion times better than the radio schlock...

    > * The Sins of Thy Beloved

    Sorry, don't know much about this one. :P

    dtc

    --- Daniel T. Chen chenda@cs.unc.edu

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:43:55 -0500 (EST) From: glyde@conk.com (Dave Peterson) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 90 best CDs of the 90s! Message-ID: <200001202343.SAA23993@netroamer.com>

    I tried to post this earlier and it didn't seem to work, so here it goes again...

    After doing some surfing (which I hadn't done in awhile - DAMN this Internet is big!) I ran across www.pixelplanet.com which features a guy by the name of Dave who has compiled his 90 favorite CDs of the 90s! This guy LOVES prog and it is really obvious in his list. I'd say that under 20% of his entries are completely non-prog in any way. He puts a nice little paragraph next to each one explaining it and it really is a nice tour through prog in the 90's. Heavy and mellow, complex and eclectic, he's got it all covered.

    It's a fun read and I'd recommend it if you've got a 1/2 hour to kill. The link is at www.pixelplanet.com

    Check it out!

    - Dr. Teeth (at ANOTHER temporary e-mail address)

    P.S. Anyone know where I can get a video of the 70's and 80's mime group Mummenschantz? You may remember them on several Sesame Street episodes when you were a wee tot.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:44:29 -0600 From: "James C. Shields" <jimbob13@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Bozzio Drum Setup Message-ID: <200001202349.PAA20416@fugazi.torchsong.com>

    Bozzio has his own line of Sabian cymbals, called Radia, or maybe Radian. They're really cool. he has them set up two and three per stand, so he has tons of cymbals in a (relatively) small area. he also has them set up so he can play melodies on them. you can hear this really well in his CD Drawing the Circle. I've seen him perform solo twice, and it's just incredible. BLS is the best example of his playing in a band context that I've heard, but DtC really shows just how far ahead of everybody else he really is. -- James C. Shields Undergraduate - Dept. of Radio, Television, and Film college of Communications University of Texas @ Austin --

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:01:49 -0500 (EST) From: glyde@conk.com (Dave Peterson) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Dave's on the Jam! Message-ID: <200001210001.TAA25774@netroamer.com>

    Whoops! Don't I feel like a bloke (That's British for "Tosser")! I just wrote a post yammering on about www.pixelplanet.com and saying how this "guy" by the name of Dave (Thomas)wrote up his 90 best CDs of the 90s. Then I go on to read a POST from him on the Jam! I should have figured this guy was a jammer!

    Good work, buddy. Can you get me a discount on a bucket of chicken? (I bet that's the first time you've heard THAT one!)

    - Dr. Tosser

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:10:23 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: 90 best CDs of the 90s! Message-ID: <002501bf63a3$eb136880$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>

    >After doing some surfing (which I hadn't done in awhile - DAMN this >is big!) I ran across www.pixelplanet.com which features a guy by the name >Dave who has compiled his 90 favorite CDs of the 90s! This guy LOVES prog

    Coincidentally, Dave Thomas, who penned this list is a long-time resident of this mailing list. :) And not only is the list quite good and well-thought out, it also inspired me to pick up a few CD's 'off the cuff' simply based on his recommendations. Suffice to say, I haven't been disappointed yet. :) -- KorgX3 had nothing to do with Samuel's death Nor Isabelle's death, for that matter. *goes home to Alfred*

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:06:21 EST From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5273 Message-ID: <4d.d9c397.25b90b0d@aol.com>

    In a message dated 00-01-20 17:00:26 EST, you write:

    <<

    >My vote would have to be for Led Zep as well.....I'll also venture to guess >that everyone on this list likes Rush as well(?) >> Trust me, the only band you're going to find here that EVERYONE likes is DT.

    Richie

    P.S. As for Rush, I like them. Don't love them, but I like them. I can't stand Led Zep though. I respect them, but I don't like them. File that where you will.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:15:26 -0800 From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: 90 best CDs of the 90s! Message-ID: <004b01bf63ad$00687140$046400c0@oemcomputer>

    Dr. Teeth said:

    > > >After doing some surfing (which I hadn't done in awhile - DAMN this > >is big!) I ran across www.pixelplanet.com which features a > guy by the name > >Dave who has compiled his 90 favorite CDs of the 90s! This > guy LOVES prog >

    The KorgX3 said:

    > Coincidentally, Dave Thomas, who penned this list is a > long-time resident of > this mailing list. :) And not only is the list quite good > and well-thought > out, it also inspired me to pick up a few CD's 'off the cuff' > simply based > on his recommendations. Suffice to say, I haven't been > disappointed yet. :)

    And I'd like to say "Thanks" and point out that no cash or other items of value changed hands in order for these comments to be posted...

    Really, it is appreciated. That article took a lot of time to write, and I had hoped that more people would comment on it, good or bad. I did get some nice e-mails from people, and some not so nice ones ("Images & Words" isn't #1? You suck!!!). The best was the one that called me a "sukkas" (actual spelling) for not having more "dEaTh METAL" which "RULZE!!!" This one went right into my archive, which includes such classic missives as "Can you get my email to work?"

    Some days I question whether or not to work on this site. It certainly doesn't pay well. But I like the freedom of being able to write about whatever I want, and not have to worry about some editor putting his/her "spin" on my writing (one magazine I used to write for used to change my articles so much that the only thing that showed up in print as originally written was my name). Comments like this keep me from questioning whether or not to get out of bed in the morning. Well, I almost always answer that question with "sleeping until Noon is a GOOD thing" but I get up anyway...

    So if you get a chance, check it out and let me know what you think. I have a bunch of stuff in the works for the site, including upcoming coverage of NAMM and related shows. Hope you find some of it interesting

    Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of books, music, comics, movies, games, CG software, programming tools and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:33:59 EST From: BloodMystX@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Angra in the states... Message-ID: <66.100ee49.25b91187@aol.com>

    << BTW, anyone know if and when Angra will ever tour the US? &nbsp;As I recall, they played the Milwalkee Metal Fest last summer, but thats it. &nbsp;Hey Mike, if you're reading, Ive got a great band for an opening act next time DT comes around the states :-D >>

    Actually they didn't quite make it to Milwaukee metalfest this last year...There were a bunch of bands that had been scheduled for the event early on, but due to venue problems, most of the headliners dropped off...Other headliners include: Machine Head, Marduk, Morbid Angel, Dark Funeral, Satyricon, and some others...Flotsam and Jetsam made it, which I was very happy about...;) How about that for a band that the list might get into?

    Tony~Minneapolis DT/flotsam fan... NP: Allan Holdsworth-Atavachron

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:55:33 EST From: Awake77@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Bands Everyone Loves Message-ID: <e0.5dacc2.25b91695@aol.com>

    I know I know! Howabout Meshuggah!?! I LOVE Meshuggah! Everyone should! At least appreciate them,anyways!:) -Chris

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:21:00 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Bands Everyone Loves Message-ID: <3887D09C.BF15C728@yunque.net>

    Hell yeah! Meshuggah also gets my vote.. crazy bastards

    Awake77@aol.com wrote:

    > I know I know! > Howabout Meshuggah!?! I LOVE Meshuggah! Everyone should! At least > appreciate them,anyways!:) > -Chris

    --

    Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back. Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind. Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:09:15 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersv.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: On Venues Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000120224537.00a223a0@cs.millersv.edu>

    Last time DT was through DC, they played the Capitol Ballroom, which is a shithole with a capital shit. Is that place still a venue? I heard it got transformed into a danceclub or something.

    The 9:30 Club is definitely a huge step up (though you probably can't pack nearly as many people in there as you could in the Ballroom). It would be an even better place to see a show, though, if they got a soundguy who didn't try to max the volume levels for everything. Rule of thumb: when you go to a show and you're wearing decent earplugs, but your ears are still ringing loudly at the end, chances are the volume was unnecessarily high.

    A lot of venues do the same thing, I'm not trying to single out the 9:30. They go for "quantity" of sound over "quality". One of the things I like so much about the TLA in Philly is they never go overboard on the volume. The Electric Factory on the other hand...

    The Tower Theater's a decent venue, but let me once again warn the Ytsejam audience, do NOT attempt to purchase upper-tier seats for any show if you are over, say 5'9". You will regret ever having legs by the end of the concert. Same goes for those of a portlier nature -- I personally don't know from experience on this one, but the hefty dude sitting next to me at the Yes show there last month was having much trouble only occupying his seat. In the end, he just sort of gave up, and let himself flow over the armrests into both my and his wife's seating zones. Remember, tall and/or overweight: just say no.

    Brian

    [NP...Premiata Forneria Marconi -- The World Became The World] ================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. E-mail: wbhender@cs.millersv.edu WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com Automaton Hit Parade (progrock radio): http://www.millersv.edu/~wixq/Automaton ==================================

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:14:34 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: Band Everyone Likes Message-ID: <20000121041434.23056.qmail@web303.mail.yahoo.com>

    Ok, so Zep is out, Rush is out, Yes is out.. someone mentioned Metallica? If my vote counts, Metallica is out as well. I was gonna venture Satriani, but technically, he's not a band. -Dan NP: Dire Straits "Dire Straits"

    ===== "Anyone with a memory must have tremendous humility." "Let light surround you." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:37:52 +0000 From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Nightwish Oceanborn Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000120233628.00bc4810@email.psu.edu>

    Does anyone know where we can download these rarities?

    >Okay, 'Nightguest' isn't a live track, it's a studio outtake from the >'Oceanborn' sessions. >The song is also found on the 'Walking In The Air' CD single. >The version with the 3 extra tracks is the French 'Limited European Tour >Edition' of >'Oceanborn', the tracks which are, 'Nightguest', Sleeping Sun' (which is >also on the newer pressings >of 'Oceanborn' and 'A Return To The Sea' which is on the original collectors >edition of 500 only >of 'Angles Fall First' CD, special 7 track album. >'Sleeping Sun' was also released as a single in Germany only last year. >You got all that :) ? >I got my copy with the 3 bonus tracks from the Spinefarm label manager when >I was in Finland >so I have no idea if it's still available, I doubt it.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:04:04 -0500 From: "Charlie Hamilton" <charlie@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Terry setup Message-ID: <B47A7948FEEC3D1108E4000A9C4B45B0@charlie.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    Okay, well you could look at Terry Bozzio's website, www.terrybozzio.com for the setup and the cymbals he uses are called radia, they are practically a whole 'nother line of Sabian cymbals, using everything from chinas to crashes that sound like chinas to cup chimes to splashes an things like that. I guess the idea was to make cymbals with more of a tone to put out better melodic music. Oh and by the way, Max stax are already released. I saw them at the International Association of Jazz Educators conference in New Orleans. I'm sure they will be at NAMM in two weeks in L.A., which I will also be at. . . :-). You could also have your local music store order them for you if you wish to buy them.

    Charlie

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:31:00 -0700 (MST) From: MOSSMAN BENJAMIN ERRAMOUSPE <Benjamin.Mossman@Colorado.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5273 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000120222942.29066C-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>

    in response to the Terry Bozzio question. he uses various cymbal stacks that are actually his own line that he's had for a while now, i believe they're called the radia line by sabian. in the newest modern drummer with the dream drum kits on the front, a pic of bozzio's entire setup is shown....what a monster, hope this helps

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:16:41 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Minneapolis DT show Feb 11th Message-ID: <3887F9C9.685D0F87@isd.net>

    Greetings fellow Jamsters,

    I'd like to hear from every Jammer that's planning on attending the Minneapolis Minnesota show on February 11th. Particularly those that are commuting from far away lands. Please e-mail me privately with your projected date and time of arrival. I plan on arranging a meeting for the Ytse-folk at a place that can accommodate those that have a need to relax after a long road trip and get something to eat. I'm also awaiting an answer from the band regarding an after show gathering at the venue.. away from the harsh (brrrr) weather... And I need a head count.

    huh huh... I said "head"

    -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You come into the world headfirst. You go out feet first. Everything in between is a matter of balance.

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:38:24 -0600 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bands everyone likes Message-ID: <001001bf63da$1f7d7800$a0809c83@z979811>

    THERE IS NO BAND THAT EVERYONE on this likes. I am SURE there are even NON DT fans on this list. This is an exercise in futility! Can't we get back to something exciting, like "my first DT experience" or "the best DT compilation" or "my review of the show" or something else that I can ignore without having a spaz?!

    Metallica sucks. Zep Rules. Rush rules (Maddy hates Rush). What is the whole point? We are not a collective conscious (unless I've been left out, in which case... thanks!) 99% of you won't even UNDERSTAND why someone would listen to David Hykes, and a lot of you would bitch if we I decided to put in a Stevie Wonder album. The differences make it all interesting... we all have different tastes.

    The jam is pretty lame lately. I think I know how we can fix it. I'll need 8 rolls of duck tape, some rope, a cauldron filled with boiling eel asses and a volunteer (Korg?) but I think if we each took a sip, it might go a long way towards breaking the general malaise here!

    Here's something I'm interested in, personally. Has someone compiled a list of URLs of Jammer's music yet? I really want to hear some of the stuff you guys are writing these days. I'd like to encourage people to post about their own music, and what they're trying to accomplish (not about how great you are, and how everyone loves your band and you are the coolest... ) It would be appropriate for me to start off a thread like this with some of my own music, but I have very little to show for myself :)

    IS THERE ANYTHING INTERESTING LEFT??? (man, I need this DT tour... the jam may still suck, but at least there'll be good tunes!)

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 02:10:28 EST From: Bunny1682@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Band Everyone Likes Message-ID: <75.e09bb7.25b96064@aol.com>

    Here's a really bizarre suggestion: U2. Yes, I know that they're neither prog nor metal, but on a more generic scale, I don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't like them at least a little. But of course, with the thousand or so people here on the jam, I'm probably going to be proven wrong very, very soon...

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:11:21 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ramblings Message-ID: <38879619.DA6B1E5C@mol.com.mk>

    > From: Giannotti Nick > Subject: 100% off topic. > > Can I just mention that The Cure are a great, great, great band? > I'm listening to Entreat right now (Live at Wembley July 89), > and Pictures Of You is just blowing my mind.

    HELL YEAH!!! :) Great concert. sniff ... I miss my childhood.

    > From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> > > Jeez. My highly anticipated new Columbia House subscription > just turned out to be quite the disappointment. :P > > Mahavishnu Orchecstra - Birds of Fire: Sounds like bad musical > filler for a Scooby Doo on Acid afterschool special.

    Don't give up on it yet. Try blasting it lil' louder, it works for me. :)

    Heck, there ARE few killer songs if not all the album. The first one ... ugghhh ... ROCKS!

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:04:07 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Magnolia/movies of the year Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB54E7@ms.kallback.com>

    > It's one of those love it or hate it flick. I disagree. I liked it ok, but I don't think it was great. It starts off fast and entertaining, then gets a little slow and boring, but it's worth sticking around for the bizarro ending. For the record, I wasn't a huge fan of his previous film, Boogie Nights, either. My picks for movie of the year are Being John Malkovich, American Beauty, and Run Lola Run. The Green Mile was pretty good too. Granted, I haven't seen The Rules of Angela's Snowy Ashes Falling on a Cedar Cider House. :) Best Actress: Hilary Swank in Boys Don't Cry.

    Trevor sees at least two movies a week.

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:28:55 GMT From: "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: "Only A Matter Of Time"? Message-ID: <20000121112855.54303.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Is it just my imagination, or did DT do a song called "Only A Matter Of Time"? I'm sure I've seen it mentioned here, but it's not in the FAQ as a Majesty Demo. Is it there's, and if so, where's it from? Oh yeah, and was WAYN an FII demo?

    >Subject: Triton owners? >Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000119170516.00ae1330@objypop> >So, anyone else on here own a Korg Triton and want to swap tips? I just >picked mine up and am still exploring the obvious on it.

    Congratulations on your purchase - our keyboardist just bought one, and he let me toy with it for a couple of hours. The fool, walking into a rehearsal with that thing...Did he REALLY expect to get any work done?! ;)

    >> I wonder if there is a band (other than Dream Theater) that >> everyone >>on this list likes? I vote for Led Zep.

    I'd say that just about everyone on this list's pretty much enamoured to this band called "Liquid Tension Experiment"...:) If there had to be one other band that I'd say we all liked, it's Spock's Beard - insofaras I can't remember reading anything less than positive about them on here.

    >>My vote would have to be for Led Zep as well.....I'll also venture to >>guess >>that everyone on this list likes Rush as well(?)

    Well, I like enough Rush songs to fill up a C90 tape, but I wouldn't call myself a fan. Anyone who claims that they like early Rush is either a Zep fan too, or else they're just decieving themselves, let's face it!

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    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:39:59 +0100 From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <mlpruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: "Only A Matter Of Time"? Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030801E508@fileserver2>

    > Is it just my imagination, or did DT do a song called "Only A Matter Of > Time"? I'm sure I've seen it mentioned here, but it's not in the FAQ as a > Majesty Demo.

    Uhm ... it's on When Dream And Day Unite.

    > Is it there's, and if so, where's it from? > Oh yeah, and was WAYN an FII demo?

    Yup.

    Sorry if you weren't serious about those questions. I'm not really paying attention ;)

    - Mike

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