YTSEJAM digest 5268

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Date: Sun Jan 16 2000 - 19:07:39 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) uacm: Confirmed Dream Theater Tour Dates (as of 1/13/00)
     by "UACM Newsletter" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
      2) Re: Tour dates damn it! ;(
     by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
      3) Re: Chroma Key - Hell Mary "Lyrics"
     by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
      4) Metallica
     by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
      5) Re:DT in Philly
     by Fett2002@aol.com
      6) Re: Chroma Key - Hell Mary "Lyrics"
     by "Anton Berglin" <con_carnage@hotmail.com>
      7) Re:Yes/DT
     by Fett2002@aol.com
      8) DT Tour, and Yes Fans
     by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
      9) Im about as diehard as Bruce willis muthaf*cka!!!
     by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
     10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5267
     by "Toby Guidry" <strangebrew@mindspring.com>
     11) Re: Tour dates damn it! ;(
     by "Wouter Valentin" <w.j.l.valentin@student.tn.tudelft.nl>
     12) German by a German
     by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
     13) looking for the big GA
     by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
     14) Guitars and Touring ...
     by Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com>
     15) Reviews on the way
     by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
     16) Motor City Mayhem!!!
     by Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca>
     17) german lesson part III
     by kafkaesk <kafkaesk@gmx.de>
     18) re: Chroma Key/Satan
     by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
     19) Re: Yes/DT
     by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
     20) marritime hall
     by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
     21) JP's guitars
     by Scarred2112@aol.com
     22) Girl moaning in 'Home'
     by Martin <newmln@yahoo.com>
     23) [Fwd: Guitarapalooza Concert]
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
     24) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5267
     by "Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@qserve.net>

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:43:21 +0100
    From: "UACM Newsletter" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
    To: "The Mirror" <themirror@egroups.com>, "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: uacm: Confirmed Dream Theater Tour Dates (as of 1/13/00)
    Message-ID: <001001bf5e5a$a5ff41e0$0100007f@localhost>

      Here is a message from Mike Portnoy with the latest list of
      METROPOLIS 2000 tour dates.

      If your city/state/country is missing from the list, please
      do NOT reply to this note and ask about it. Thank you!

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      This is the latest itinerary of CONFIRMED Dream Theater
      Tour Dates

      Please note:
      1. there are 3 US dates listed waiting for confirmation
      2. There might be a possibility of a few more shows added
      (without The Dregs) throughout Texas between March 5th and
      10th 2000

      Check www.dreamtheater.net for that information or any
      other changes

      Dream Theater - Metropolis 2000 US Tour
      Special Guests: The Dregs
      (except *GH - Gary Hoey and *SB - Spock's Beard)

      Monday January 31 =A0 Phoenix, AZ =A0 Celebrity Theater (*GH)
      Tuesday February 01 =A0 Las Vegas, NV =A0 The Joint (*SB)
      Wednesday February 02 =A0 Santa Ana, CA =A0 Galaxy Theater (*SB)
      Friday February 04 =A0 Los Angeles, CA =A0 Palace Theater
      Saturday February 05 =A0 Los Angeles, CA =A0 Palace Theater
      Sunday February 06 =A0 San Francisco, CA =A0 Maritime Hall
      Tuesday February 08 Salt Lake City, UT Kingsbury Hall (added on 1/=
    12)
      Wednesday February 09 =A0 Denver, CO The =A0 Fillmore
      Friday February 11 =A0 Minneapolis, MN =A0 State Theater
      Saturday February 12 =A0 Milwaukee, WI =A0 The Rave
      Sunday February 13 =A0 Chicago, IL =A0 The Riviera
      Tuesday February 15 Cincinnati, OH Bogarts (added on 1/13)
      Thursday February 17 Cleveland, OH The Agora (added on 1/12)
      Friday February 18 Detroit, MI State Theater (added on 1/13)
      Saturday February 19 Pittsburgh, PA Metropol (added on 1/13)
      Sunday February 20 Sea Bright, NJ Tradewinds (added on 1/13)
      Monday February 21 Washington DC 9:30 Club (added on 1/12)
      Thursday February 24 New Haven, CT Toad's Place **WAITING TO CONFIR=
    M
      Friday February 25 Philadelphia, PA Electric Factory (added on 1/1=
    2)
      Saturday February 26 New York City Roseland (added on 1/12)
      Sunday February 27 Boston, MA The Roxy (added on 1/12)
      Monday February 28 Baltimore, MD Recher Theater **WAITING TO CONFIR=
    M
      Wednesday March 1 Atlanta, GA The Tabernacle **WAITING TO CONFIRM
      Friday March 3 Orlando, FL House of Blues (added on 1/13)
      Sat March 4 West Palm Beach, FL Pompano Beach Amphitheater (added on
    1/12)

      DREAM THEATER - Metropolis 2000 European tour
      Special Guests: Spock's Beard

      Fri March 24 - Ice Hall - Helsinki, Finland
      Sun March 26 - Solnahallen - Stockholm, Sweden
      Mon & Tues March 27 & 28 - Rockafeller - Oslo, Norway
      Thurs March 30 - The Vega - Copenhagen, Denmark
      Fri March 31 - Columbiahalle - Berlin, Germany
      Sat April 1 - Stadthalle - Offenbach, Germany
      Mon April 3 - MDH/Academy - Manchester, UK
      Tues April 4 - Shepherd's Bush Empire - London, UK
      Wed April 5 - Rock City - Nottingham, UK
      Fri April 7 - Zenith - Paris, France
      Sat April 8 - Phillipshalle - Dusseldorf, Germany
      Tues April 11 - Palamarino - Rome, Italy
      Wed April 12 - Tenax - Firenze, Italy
      Thurs April 13 - Palastampa - Torino, Italy
      Sat April 15 - Zeleste - Barcelona, Spain
      Sun April 16 - Polideportivo Anoeta - San Sebastian, Spain
      Tues April 18 - Riviera - Madrid, Spain
      Wed April 19 - Aula Magna - Lisbon, Portugal

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    Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:50:08 +0100
    From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Tour dates damn it! ;(
    Message-ID: <387D75A0.7AD4F746@siol.net>

    > Some freak wrote:
    >> I know the rest is still being booked, but DT's bookers seem to
    >> alienate certain areas of the country.
    >
    >How about certain areas of a CONTINENT??? :(
    >
    > Geez, I hope these are not the ONLY European dates. Huh, since when
    > Europe is just 3 countries?
    > Is there a reason DT not coming in city they came last tour? Damn it,
    > don't wanna show off, but if I'm ready to cross 2 countries to see DT
    > live, that doesn't mean I have no problem with crossing 6 of them for
    > Chist sake! ;(((

    I really know how you feel duke! Though I'm in a tad bit better
    situation,
    I'll still have to travel through half the Italy or Austria and most of
    the
    Germany to see them. Goddamn! I really hope these are not the final
    dates,
    because eastern Europe got completely cut off... again! I don't mind
    traveling to Munich or Milan, but this time it's really pushing it, give
    us a break, will ya? :) We want more shows! :)

    Matej Grginic

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:24:56 -0700
    From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Chroma Key - Hell Mary "Lyrics"
    Message-ID: <387ECF48.2F0CDA5A@ivorygate.com>

    JamesAhab@aol.com wrote:
    >
    > What is that dialogue from, anyway? Did Kevin Moore write it or is it another
    > soundbite he sampled? From where?
            The text is actually from some visions that a one Veronica Lueken had
    experienced (allegedly that is)... Here's a link if you are interested...
            http://www.roses.org/messages/domcomet.htm
            http://www.roses.org

    BTW, as for the actual recording of the text, Kevin probably just ran the text
    through a speech synth of some kind or read it himself with weird filters on
    his voice...

    --
    ~Michael Kizer                  < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
    "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
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    >>>     Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com      <<<
    

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:32:16 +1100 From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Metallica Message-ID: <387ED100.9F16C632@alphalink.com.au>

    I had the pleasure of seeing Metallica twice a year or two ago and I must say, whilst their latest CDs leave something to be desired, they still f**king rock in concert. Their rhythm guitar tone is one of the best you'll find. Also, even though I don't much like their Load and Reload, some of my favourite moments were when they played songs of those albums. Metallica hasn't lost their ability to rock, they've just lost their senses a bit I think.

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:39:00 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:DT in Philly Message-ID: <d3.661eac.25b02c94@aol.com>

    >Anyone going to this one? I'm there... but WHY the Electric Factory??? The place >is a shithole!!!

    I saw them there in December of 98 and it was great. I dont think its a bad place. And the seating (standing) capacity it about right for them. They cant fill up any place bigger really. I an't wait though! DT back in Philly! -Mike C.

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:43:06 GMT From: "Anton Berglin" <con_carnage@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Chroma Key - Hell Mary "Lyrics" Message-ID: <20000114074306.5357.qmail@hotmail.com>

    >>Try http://www.tldm.org/News/domcomet.htm . I think they still >>have it. >> >>- Tom >What is that dialogue from, anyway? Did Kevin Moore write it or is >it >another soundbite he sampled? From where? >jim

    I learned it is from a doomsday profecy from some nuthead. You can check www.tldm.org (These Last Day Ministries). The full profecy is about 20 pages :/ It is performed by a program that converts text into speach, possibly TextoLE (at least it sounds a LOT like that program, I had it a while ago). Feel free to correct me since I really haven't got a clue :)

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:44:43 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Yes/DT Message-ID: <a.443db4.25b02deb@aol.com>

    >As for the reverse I do not know a DT fan who does not like Yes. I doubt >one exists!

    Got one right here! I've never really been into them at all. My motto is "just say no to yes!" That's just a joke though. I got nothing against them or their fans or anything, I'm just not into them. It would be cool though if opening for them would help DT's sales. I think it could happen to some younger Yes fans. -Mike C.

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:08:36 -0600 From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT Tour, and Yes Fans Message-ID: <20000114020836.B37543@enteract.com>

    Second things first, why anyone would make generalizations about what fans of one band "must" like is beyond me. Most of the members of this list don't like jazz. Some of us do. Nothing in life is a constant. I know about 3 DT fans in my area who like Yes. I know probably 2 dozen more who don't (though some of them like "Owner of a Lonely Heart"... but that's Cinema, not Yes). There's no harm in these kinds of simple generalizations, but there's also no validity, and no point.

    As for DT tour dates, there are some people who will get screwed, mainly because you live in areas that always have been screwed, and always will be screwed for concerts. I've never seen some of my favorite bands, because they only tour Europe, and I live in the greatest city in the US. But consider this, US people, there's a long history of dedication to the band, present in a lively form on this list. It used to be a ritual to go to the east coast from wherever you live... California, Atlanta, Chicago, etc to see the holiday shows. Maddy and I picked up on it, and were inspired to drive out there with Bogie last time, and it was worth every penny, just experiencing that. I think we share everyone else's disappointment that they didn't have a holiday tour this year. It's the experiences we take away from this stuff that matters anyway. you can experience sitting on your ass in front of your computer bitching, or you can take the road trip. Chances are there's a show in your range.

    And of course this screws the younger fans, but that's a tradition too... it makes turning 21 even more valuable. As a result of my age I was too young to see most of my childhood idols live. Now one of them is wheelchair bound and can no longer play, and one of them died in a car wreck... it's life.

    I'll see some of you at the Chicago, Milwaukee and LA shows!

    --

    Chris Ptacek - someone@digitalrodent.com "We are number One! All others are Two or lower!" -The Sphinx

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:22:12 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Im about as diehard as Bruce willis muthaf*cka!!! Message-ID: <20000114.022217.3238.0.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

    <haha!! It takes 36 hours from New Orleans to Washington DC? Maybe 36 hours via Eyore, the donkey from Winnie the Pooh! The show in DC will be large...I would suggest heading to that one...AND, if you're a true DT fan, you might want to make the drive...;) >

    I already have train reservations(traveling by train is so relaxing to me) for Atlanta. I am waiting for the date to be confirmed (Figures my show is the one w/o confirmation yet. Drivings not out of the question. I was speaking above about the one in Palm Beach not DC.

    Kurt

    Kurt would rather go to Texas than Georgia though (esp Houston)

    Kurt also just made his first declaritaive statement about hiself (sorry Korg!)

    "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone" "Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred" 45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:31:24 -0600 From: "Toby Guidry" <strangebrew@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5267 Message-ID: <004501bf5e82$e44eeb80$5dc78ad1@mindspring.com>

    Kurt wrote: > << I know the rest is still being booked, but DT's bookers seem to alienate > certain areas of the country. It seems theya are starting in the west -up > the coast -across the top and down the coast. Nothing in the center at > all. I live in New Orleans and the closest show would be a 36 hour drive > as of right now or 400 dollar plane ticket. >>

    Then BloodMystX@aol.com wrote: > haha!! It takes 36 hours from New Orleans to Washington DC? Maybe 36 hours > via Eyore, the donkey from Winnie the Pooh!

    heh...never drove it, but DC isn't the closest show to New Orleans, so the question is moot.

    > The show in DC will be large...

    I'm guessing you're not referring to the size of the venue because I've heard the 930 isn't that big.

    > I > would suggest heading to that one...AND, if you're a true DT fan, you might > want to make the drive...;)

    Well, Orlando would actually be the closest show to him from what I can tell looking at the listing. That's drivable in a day, although seeing a concert and then driving back within a day would be near impossible. Sounds like a good seed idea for a new "Smokey and the Bandit" movie, though.

    L8r, Toby NP:

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:40:48 +0100 From: "Wouter Valentin" <w.j.l.valentin@student.tn.tudelft.nl> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Tour dates damn it! ;( Message-ID: <002701bf5e8c$9c7e0480$6717c1c3@valentin>

    CyberDuke wrote:

    > Geez, I hope these are not the ONLY European dates. Huh, since when > Europe is just 3 countries? > Is there a reason DT not coming in city they came last tour?

    I happen to live in Holland, where DT gave a show in November. Kicked ass by the way.. I also regret that they don't seem to come over here to play SFAM completely, BUT I just received the fanzine TOD (including the X-mas cd which kicked major ass IMHO, but I won't spoil anything), and there I saw the same European tourlist, with a little note on the bottom on the page:

    "Note to the Dutch dreamheads: Dream Theater will (hopefully) play in Holland during their summer-tour."

    I guess this implies that Dream Theater will tour in Europe again this summer. This doesn't imply, but makes it pretty plausible that they will come to other countries than the ones they tour this spring.

    I will have patience and confidence that they visit Holland again... I hope they come to your country (which country do you live in btw?) also.. Regards, Wouter Valentin

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:05:22 CET From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: German by a German Message-ID: <20000114130522.51620.qmail@hotmail.com>

    hi, actually and I hope I put this in a way that even Steffen might be prompted to prove me, German has two 'ch'-sounds. One in the way Andrew mentioned. A front consonant, africative for those who what that is. The tongue touches the sides a bit, but air is allowed through, as well as on top of it. It sounds in deed a little bit like the 'h' in >human< and is used for example in the German word for >I<: >Ich<(which you usually pronounce >Ick<(as in "Ick bin ein Berliner") The other one is the one Korgy described And the one used in >acht<(eight). It is a fricative as well, but unstressed, hard and produced by letting the tongue touch the little penis in the back of your throat (I think that was called thyrinx, it's been some time). It's a sound very familiar in Netherland or Schwarzenegger movies. If you put your tongue in the position to say >ackt<, but don't form the plosive and press some air through instead(like you do with fricatives) you should have it. Hope that helps. BTw, it is fuenf (five), not fumpf and this ue sound for which we actually have a different letter is produced by making an >ee<-sound, as in >bee<, where your lips should be formed somewhat similar to a horizontal line and than transform your lips into a circle without changing the arrangement inside your mouth. Give it a try, Seb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:39:04 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: looking for the big GA Message-ID: <20000114143904.22038.qmail@hotmail.com>

    >Friday February 18 Detroit, MI State Theater (added on 1/13)

    I'm cool with this venue....but the last show I saw there was Joe Satriani, and they had seats going....kind of a trip seeing all those ridiculous lasers going on, and then watching everyone down below (i was in the balcony) trying to get into the show while planted on their asses.....as long as its general admission, I'd say it's a step up from the place DT has played the last couple of time thru Detroit.

    We've already heard some comments on the Philly venue.....what about the rest of the tour sites? Is DT playing a better or worse class of halls this time around, or pretty much the same style venues?

    partha

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:57:44 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Guitars and Touring ... Message-ID: <14463.14696.263837.162188@optical.mindstorm.com>

    Simon Dodd writes: > Meandering through johnpetrucci.com (OK, I was bored...) I noticed that in > his list of guitars, there's a "Custom Double Neck (Lexus)" and a "Blue > Burst" - anyone have any idea what these are or when/where JP's used them?

    Well, the one time I have seen JP use the double neck was during Take Away My Pain during the the Fix for 96 shows (An Evening of New Music), before FII came out. Not sure if he actually used it on the CD though.

    As for the upcoming shows.... Right now the plan for me and some friends is New Haven (if confirmed), Philly, New York and Boston :) (you CAN'T see DT just once in the space of a few days). There is also a _VERY_ small chance I may show up at the Vegas and LA shows, but that is an extremely small possibility :)

    Skadz

    -- Ryan Skadberg | "there's a space beside us Ytsejam Moderator | and there's miles between us skadz@dreamt.org | and all around us http://www.dreamt.org/ | grows this shade of gray" | _A Pleasant Shade of Gray_ - Fates Warning

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:58:34 +0100 From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com> To: "'The Ytsejam Mailing list'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Reviews on the way Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E62107E78A0C@daemsg02.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    towards the end of last year I tended to let myself slip with regard to reviewing new CDs in my collection. This was mostly due to work. Anyhoo, thinks have become more or less reasonable again, and I'll be bashing out the first reviews soon (over the weekend, hopefully). The first batch will include

    Chrome Locust Neal Morse The Atomic Bitchwax

    And now for a tip for anybody else looking for a nice way to waste a couple of hours on the web: http://www.stileproject.com/ Some pretty weird but interesting stuff there, especially in the archives.

    stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com) Currently playing: JEAN-LUC PONTY - Cosmic Messenger

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:16:56 -0700 (MST) From: Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Motor City Mayhem!!! Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.10001141010430.74882-100000@acs6.acs.ucalgary.ca>

    I wanted to put the feelers out now and see if there are any Detroit area jammers out there willing to help me out. I'm a Canuck boy from cattle country who by some stroke of luck (or divine intervention perhaps?) is going to be in East Lansing on the 18th of February. I'd give my left nut to see DT live, so if anyone can help me get to the show and point me to a nice, roach-free hotel in Detriot close to the venue, I'd really appreciate it. I'll probobly have a rental van if you need a lift. Please mail privately.

    Grp

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:22:05 +0100 From: kafkaesk <kafkaesk@gmx.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: german lesson part III Message-ID: <387F5B3D.5875B675@gmx.de>

    Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: Korg Ecksthrey wrote: > To pronounce the german 'consanant' ch, you have to make a sound like > you're hacking up a hairball. It's like a really deep 'h' sound with > chunk.

    Actually, in strict terms, it's not a back-throat consonant at all (thank you diction for singers class). I mean, different dialects do it different ways, but in Hoch Deutsche, ch is a fronted consonant, and the best way I've ever been able to compare it to the English language is the exact same sound you make at the beginning of the word "human."

    Actually, in strict terms, youre both right. ch is pronounced differently, depending on the word its in. for example the number eight, acht, has that hairball-hacking-throught sound, while the pronoun I, ich, has the soft h-chy sound. in "hochdeutsch". yes. musical content no.

    ~kafkaesk

    NP: Like Minds- Burton, Corea, Metheny, Haynes, Holland- not bad, really. :)

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:47:57 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: Chroma Key/Satan Message-ID: <20000114174757.29303.qmail@web109.yahoomail.com>

    Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Since someone brought up Chroma Key 'lyrics', I've > always wanted to know what the girl at the beginning > and end of track 2, Even the Waves, is saying. It > sounds like "I worship Satan" to my ears, I just > wanted to know if anyone knew. Thanks, -Dan

    Ha! Ha! You must have been listening to it backwards. If you listen to it forwards, it sounds like German, but that is just a trick. Kevin Moore is a very dedicated devil-worshipper. Most of his lyrics with Dream Theater had clever subliminal messages meant to destroy the Catholic Church and drive up the Stock Market. I think it may be working....the apocalypse is not far behind.

    my [tic] $.02, BH

    P.S. You may want to try a Rorschach Inkblot Test. It is a well known fact that these tests are actually filled with Satanic images and symbols.

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:48:18 +0000 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Yes/DT Message-ID: <387F6F72.5EFBAB6A@home.se>

    Make that two! I haven't heard anything by them (not that I know of anyway), and I didn't even know they existed until about a year ago. So there ya go...

    Andreas Skarin mailto:skarre@dtifc.com http://www.dtifc.com/sweden/

    ignorant@aol.com wrote:

    > >As for the reverse I do not know a DT fan who does not like Yes. I doubt > >one exists!

    ..and Fett2002@aol.com wrote:

    > Got one right here! I've never really been into them at all. My motto is > "just say no to yes!" That's just a joke though. I got nothing against them > or their fans or anything, I'm just not into them. It would be cool though if > opening for them would help DT's sales. I think it could happen to some > younger Yes fans. > -Mike C.

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:00:53 GMT From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: marritime hall Message-ID: <20000114180053.35191.qmail@hotmail.com>

    woohoo! feb 6th in SF.. i'm very excited to say the least..

    i'll be there.. if you're going say hi.. there's no way you can miss me.. i'll be the guy with the long hair and the dream theater T-Shirt on .. :)

    inferno NP: king crimson - lizard ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:15:10 EST From: Scarred2112@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: JP's guitars Message-ID: <c9.8f699.25b0c1ae@aol.com>

    -Meandering through johnpetrucci.com (OK, I was bored...) I noticed that in his list of guitars, there's a "Custom Double Neck (Lexus)" and a "Blue Burst" - anyone have any idea what these are or when/where JP's used them?-

    The "Custom Double Neck (Lexus) is a 12/6 string doubleneck that JP used on the pre-FII european tour dates, although I've never seen a video of him using it - the closest I've come are some photos in the DTIFC fanzine a few years back. "Blue Burst" is a custom Ibanez seven string that he used approx. from the 95 "Home for the Holidays" shows to the pre-FII tour dates. You can see John use this guitar of the Ibanez "Seventh Heaven: promo. video. The main point that I see is that these guitars were not standard JPM models (no Piscaso Graphic, flamed wood-bodies). Hope this helps :)

    scarred2112 [They closed Wolf's Deli? - JP]

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:42:36 -0800 (PST) From: Martin <newmln@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Girl moaning in 'Home' Message-ID: <20000114184236.25140.qmail@web1603.mail.yahoo.com>

    Do you know who is that woman who moans in the middle of 'Home'?

    Martin

    PS: What they were doing with her? She moans quite intensively... ;-))) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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    Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:07:49 -0500 From: "Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@qserve.net> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5267 Message-ID: <01BF5E98.C4CA5EA0.mchealey@qserve.net>

    Does anybody know why DT doesn't or won't come to Indianapolis?

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