YTSEJAM Digest 5265
Today's Topics:
1) OT: Megadeth minus Friedman?! :)
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
2) DT opening for Yes
by Chris Jerolamon <ckj@UDel.Edu>
3) metallichunk? blows!
by MusicSnob@aol.com
4) Chicago Show
by Christopher Wadley <ill_tempered@yahoo.com>
5) CD Burning Software
by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
6)
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5264
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
8) Re: Chicago Show
by ubiquitous Bob <virtualpc@home.com>
9) RE: since someone asked ...
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5264
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
11) dt in cleveland
by Ryan Blankenship <rblanken@gcfn.org>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5262
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
13) Subject: DT in LA
by rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
14) Ivory Gate Bulletin Board get together post forum thingy
by Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
15) booted
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
16) f*** zzn
by "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com>
17) Re: DT opening for Yes
by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
18) Hell Mary lyrics
by "Anton Berglin" <con_carnage@hotmail.com>
19) re:Pain of Salvation
by "Ashley Wong (ETL)" <ashley.wong@etl.ericsson.se>
20) Sabian Portnoy STAX
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
21) Re: the doc
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
22) Bass on AJFA (and anywhere else)
by "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com>
23) Bonesoda
by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:05:29 -0600
From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: OT: Megadeth minus Friedman?! :)
Message-ID: <20000111140529.B91935@enteract.com>
Can anyone give me the inside scoop on this?!?!? This could be the best
news ever! Mustaine, being the captain, can go down with that ship... but
Friedman has ALWAYS outclassed them! I wonder if the will get him playing
HALFWAY decent guitar again!
I'm so very very pleased!
--
Chris Ptacek - someone@digitalrodent.com
"Everything that can be invented has
been invented." -- Charles H. Duell,
Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:15:38 -0500
From: Chris Jerolamon <ckj@UDel.Edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT opening for Yes
Message-ID: <387B8F6A.C63D4595@udel.edu>
"Unfortunately there is not a greatcross over in the fan bases. Most DT
fans like Yes I am not shure if it works the other way around."
I'm not so sure about that. I've only met a handful of other prog fans,
one being my age (20) and loves both DT and Yes, the other two being in
the 40-50 range. Although one wasn't familiar with DT, he really enjoyed
them, and the other was already a proud owner of all their studio work.
Maybe the heavier stuff won't go over too well (Puppies on Acid, Lie,
Beyond this Life), but I think that Met1, Scarred, TDoE (a reach),
Finally Free, as well as several others would go over very well.
I hope that this concert goes on...I'd spend all sorts of money to see
my two favorite acts perform at the same concert.
-- Chris Jerolamon ckj@udel.edu------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:12:35 EST From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: metallichunk? blows! Message-ID: <88.8822b01f.25ace8b3@aol.com>
someone asserted about metallica's sound : >Bob rock helped change >this by giving the guitars more midrange without sacrificing the chunk
THAT's a joke. Chunk? The only chunk I hear is the sound of my puke hitting the tiles when I listen to anything post-Justice.
/me is still laughing
NP: Wuthering Heights
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:21:53 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Wadley <ill_tempered@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Chicago Show Message-ID: <20000111202153.15942.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com>
Hey... First time poster on this list...
Anyway, I was just wondering if any of you guys are going to the Chicago show at the Riv on Feb. 13th. I'll be there, it'll be my first DT show, and I'm really psyched about it... especially considering how much I love the new album. Well, if you're out there, drop me a line...
later, Chris
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:27:13 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CD Burning Software Message-ID: <387B9221.843CA438@ozemail.com.au>
I can highly recommend the Adaptec Easy CD Creator software, I've been using it since I got my burner over 2 years ago and it always delivers perfect copies, the only failures I've had have been through my own stupidity :) In fact I like it so much I am going to buy the new version (4.0) that lets you burn CD player CDR's direct from mp3's.
gaz http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam
NP - Kamelot - The Fourth Legacy - killer CD, leaves 'Seige Perilous' for dead !
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:35:52 GMT From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Message-ID: <20000111203552.21558.qmail@hotmail.com>
you go girl
inferno NP: eniac requiem - space eternal void
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:37:23 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5264 Message-ID: <20000111.153728.14334.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
<interesting note on wallofsound.com, Marty Friedman's replacement on Megadeth's Risk tour is Al Pitrelli (Savatage, ethyl mertz, whole buncha other stuff)....doesn't say anything about a permanent replacement>
I hope to hell he doesn't stay permanently. I would like for three Savatage albums be released with the same lineup. DWD, Wake of Magellan and the new one. I don't think Savateg has ever had three in a row with the smae line up have they?
Kurt NP-Sepultura Blood Rooted "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone" "Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred" 45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:38:30 -0600 From: ubiquitous Bob <virtualpc@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Chicago Show Message-ID: <B4A0FEF6.61%virtualpc@home.com>
> Hey... First time poster on this list... > > Anyway, I was just wondering if any of you guys are going to the > Chicago show at the Riv on Feb. 13th. I'll be there, it'll be my first > DT show, and I'm really psyched about it... especially considering how > much I love the new album. Well, if you're out there, drop me a > line... > > > later, > Chris
Hi Chris,
I'm going to the show on the 13th as well. This is will actually be the first real concert that i've been to. has anyone seen dream theater and/or the dixie dregs live before ? what were your opinions ? --
I am an agnostic; I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of.
david biggs.
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:38:14 +0100 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: since someone asked ... Message-ID: <001a01bf5c7c$2a5b7480$0100007f@localhost>
Skadz wrote:
> Also, some of you zzn.com people still have HTML formatting on. > PLEASE turn it off, before I have to unsub you. > > Itchy - can you post some information on how to do this (since it > is through your site and all ;)
Okey dokey...
Before you send your post, PLEASE uncheck the "Send as HTML" option... I have no idea what possessed ZZN.COM to turn this on by default, and there doesn't seem to be a way to turn it off in the "Options" section.
If you post to the Ytsejam (or any other mailinglist) with a dreamtheater.ZZN.COM address, just press "Compose" and:
1. UNCHECK "Send as HTML"
OR
2. Click on "Simple Editor"
Should be easy enough, right? :-)
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:52:43 EST From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5264 Message-ID: <7a.7a6a2041.25ad0e3b@aol.com>
In a message dated 00-01-11 14:44:15 EST, you write:
<<
Being a lifelong YES fan, I disagree. If DT plays their more proggy stuff like M1 and M2 and LtL, they'll be fine.
Along with some of the more "poppy" stuff like LSOAD, electric Silent Man, Surrounded (PLEASE!!!) mixed some other prog moments like ToT, LiTS, and some selections from M2. They'll be fine. That's the great thing about DT. Their material is so diverse that they could open for almost anyone.
Richie
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:11:31 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Blankenship <rblanken@gcfn.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: dt in cleveland Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.10001111831.A7361-9100000@acme>
hey all
whats this dt concert in cleveland on feb 17 that ticketmaster now has listed all about? ha, im from columbus and already have my chicago tix, so its a good thing i had planned on going to more than one, or else id be pissed...
blankey
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:27:20 EST From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5262 Message-ID: <b5.b502ffba.25ad1658@aol.com>
Sorry ;-) I started it - but probably as another incarnation!
>www.ticketbastard.com (sorry, I had to do it ....;)
Why would anyone hate Steve Hogarth - he has such as sweet face ;-) And he paints his toenails ...
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:49:58 -0800 From: rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Subject: DT in LA Message-ID: <387BDDC4.A28E4689@earthlink.net>
When I went to Tower Records on Saturday to buy tix for the Friday show, I asked the ticketbastard dood what the deal was with the Saturday show. He said it's listed in their computer but hadn't gone on sale yet. I'm thinking it'll be either this weekend or next. And I'll be at both :-)
cheryl
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:48:19 -0800 From: Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Cc: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> Subject: Ivory Gate Bulletin Board get together post forum thingy Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000111174423.0097fc80@sc.llu.edu>
>From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > > >Well, one place to post any type of get together stuff would be the Scenes >]From A Tour forum at the Ivory Gate Bulletin Board... >http://www.ivorygate.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/ivorygate/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi >and Wes, I'll be hitting both LA shows as well as NAMM, so maybe if we post a >spot to meet before the shows, we can gather up a few jammers...
Yeah, let's do that. Btw, I'm still looking into going to the Santa Ana show, which Ticketmaster Online has listed. But hadn't made if available to purchase the tickets yet. Are they on sale yet for the santa ana and also the Saturday night show at The Palace? It's high time I order my tickets! 8-) Either way, let me know what you're going to do amigo, I'd like to hook up somehow. ------------------------------------------------------ What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University follwes@sc.llu.edu wfoll00g@ns.llu.edu beavis@ytseradio.com ICQ #4550740
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:44:05 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: booted Message-ID: <v04220804b4a1ee8d291e@[192.168.1.1]>
>HEY "SCABZ" , I QUIVER WITH FEAR, BE MY GUEST, BOOT ME >FROM THE JAM. LIKE I SAID IN OUR LITTLE E MAIL >EXCHANGE, IF POSTING A MESSAGE TWICE BECAUSE I WAS NEW >TO THE LIST IS A CRIME, THEN YOU CAN SHOVE THIS SORRY
Well, one could argue about the post-twice thing, but insulting the list admin and posting in all caps is more than enough reason for booting this guy. Go ahead, Skadz!
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:05:23 EST From: "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: f*** zzn Message-ID: <20000112130523.9023.qmail@hotmail.com>
>From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com> >Subject: since someone asked ...
>Also, some of you zzn.com people still have HTML formatting on. >PLEASE turn it off, before I have to unsub you.
turned it off. still sent HTML. sick of the spam. relocated.
Graham Boyle - see the above message.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:47:04 -0500 From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT opening for Yes Message-ID: <EE184AEF998C3D11DACD0005B803B365@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Ok. Here's a set list that might work when opening for Yes. Rearrange the songs in whatever order you like...assuming they get an hour.
Metropolis Part 1 Overture 1928 Take The Time (extended slightly) Voices Hollow Years Home (full) Pull Me Under
Very hard to limit them to an hour of music. It could end up only 45 minutes. This is of course if it even happens. IT BETTER!
Rob (HTML free)
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]From: Chris Jerolamon <ckj@UDel.Edu> Sent: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:24:08 -0800 (PST) To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT opening for Yes
"Unfortunately there is not a greatcross over in the fan bases. =A0Most=
DT fans like Yes I am not shure if it works the other way around."
I'm not so sure about that. I've only met a handful of other prog fans, one being my age (20) and loves both DT and Yes, the other two being in the 40-50 range. Although one wasn't familiar with DT, he really enjoyed them, and the other was already a proud owner of all their studio work. Maybe the heavier stuff won't go over too well (Puppies on Acid, Lie, Beyond this Life), but I think that Met1, Scarred, TDoE (a reach), Finally Free, as well as several others would go over very well.
I hope that this concert goes on...I'd spend all sorts of money to see my two favorite acts perform at the same concert.
-- Chris Jerolamon ckj@udel.edu
---- End Original Message ----
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:52:51 GMT From: "Anton Berglin" <con_carnage@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Hell Mary lyrics Message-ID: <20000112155251.7995.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello everbody...
There was a thread a while ago about the Chroma Key tune 'Hell Mary'. I would like the "lyrics" for it...anyone knows where they can be found? They aren't up on chromakey.com and I find it very hard to hear what the !"#¤ he/she/it is saying.
Thanks for the mp3s from Gathering, Korg (I think it was you at least). I love the 'Nighttime Birds' chorus. :D
NP: Sigma 5 - The Mirror (sort of cool :)
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:01:36 +0100 From: "Ashley Wong (ETL)" <ashley.wong@etl.ericsson.se> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: re:Pain of Salvation Message-ID: <0BE3EAFA8B11D3118DFC0008C75D24BE570D9B@euktcnt011.ericsson.se>
Hello all,
Adam wrote: ------------------------------------------ Hmmm, Well it appears I'm the only one who thinks Entropia mops the floor with One Hour By The Concrete Lake. In fact, if I hadn't known better, judging by the sound of these albums I would guess Entropia to be their second release and not their first. ------------------------------------
Nahh...I also with you on this one Adam. I really also thought Entropia was the second release, as most bands improve with successive releases. Concrete Lake is fine but I've filed that one away for the time being. Whilst Entropia has been in constant rotation in my CD player as I much prefer the heavier and crunchier feel of it.
By the way I've also finally got hold of Saviour Machine. Yes, another good recommendation by the 'jam. Very moody and much like the earlier Paradise Lost.
Bye!
Ashley
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:36:00 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Sabian Portnoy STAX Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4722@julia.um.be>
Anybody an idea about the availability of Sabians STAX Portnoy Signature line ?? Nothing on www.sabian.com...
Take Care
HeinV
NP. Liquid Drum Theater ! Wow !!
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:39:49 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: the doc Message-ID: <387CAE55.2C10CB0C@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> hey, what ever happened to doc mosh?
we caught him trying to hack the internet at y2k. he's currently under investigation. we can't comment any further at this time due to pending litigation.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:59:12 GMT From: "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Bass on AJFA (and anywhere else) Message-ID: <20000112165912.31877.qmail@hotmail.com>
>almost exactly. On top of that Hetfield and Hammett used to scoop the mids >out of the EQ on their preamps in order to get that chunky >sound; they >boosted the hi's and low's way up. On AJFA and to a lesser degree on the >previous albums this really swallowed up the >bass. Bob rock helped change >this by giving the guitars more >midrange without sacrificing the chunk, and Newsted played basslines >that >didn't mirror the guitar, so the bass actually stood out in the >mix for >once.
I'll just add something to this that I read in an interview with Jason, 'cos it's a good tip. As well as giving the guitars more mids,Bob gave Jason a scoop that was almost exactly opposite to that of the guitars, so that again, they stand out more in the mix. Also, on the last two albums - again, this is a great way to go about it - there was more use made of the stereo "image"; because the guitars were panned left and right to a greater or lesser degree, and the bass remained in the middle, it stood out great. It didn't hurt, either, that it took Jason until after AJFA to learn to actually play bass properly, instead of just shredding under the guitars - his words, not mine. You'll notice how quickly JM disappears under the mix when he goes off on one.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:41:17 -0500 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bonesoda Message-ID: <00b501bf5d34$fe833f00$b2589780@BLARGH>
Hey Al. (I think)
Whoever posted the link for Bonesoda songs, could you please send me the link again? I downloaded the misha's surprise one and just remembered it today and like it quite a bit so now I want to hear the others. So if you still have it up, I'd love to hear it! Thanks!
Scott
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