YTSEJAM digest 5255

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    Today's Topics:

      1) SFaM the Movie - my version
     by David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
      2) Best album of 99 poll results
     by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
      3) Similarities in music...
     by Jorrit Godeke <jogobass@hetnet.nl>
      4) That old devil music
     by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
      5) Dream Theater Tribute Bands
     by DTGirl2612@aol.com
      6) re: Charlie vs KJLB
     by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
      7) Re: Best album of 99 poll results
     by "Marcel Schot" <neuronix@writeme.com>
      8) Re: That old devil music
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
      9) Re: LTE and Mahavishnu Orchestra
     by Erik Wahlen <mva@sbbs.se>
     10) if "the 90s bring new questions"....
     by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
     11) Re: That old devil music
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     12) LA Show Questions
     by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
     13) Therion 'Deggial'
     by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
     14) Remaining US Tour Dates????
     by Compadre32@aol.com
     15) Re: That old devil music
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
     16) Re: Charlie vs KJLB
     by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
     17) Re: That old devil music
     by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
     18) Re: Emotional songs
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
     19) Music for Y2K
     by "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net>
     20) Oh, god, it's another plug from NHBRadio
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
     21) Re: Best album of 99 poll results
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
     22) Re: Music for Y2K
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:01:45 -0700
    From: David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: SFaM the Movie - my version
    Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E61752117A11@MESSAGING>

    > Nicholas:Kenu Reeves
    > Victoria Page:Catharine Zeta-Jones
    > Senator Edward Baynes (The Miracle):Randy Quaid
    > Julian Baynes (The Sleeper): Dennis Quaid
    > The Hypnotherapist:Christopher Walken
    > And the older man in Fatal Tragedy:James Earl Jones

    That's pretty damn good, but here's my list:

    Nicholas: Nicholas Cage
    Victoria Page: Catherine Zeta-Jones OR Gwyneth Paltrow
    Senator Edward Baynes (The Miracle): Matt Damon
    Julian Baynes (The Sleeper): Brad Pitt
    The Hypnotherapist: Christopher Walken (he'd be perfect)
    And the older man in Fatal Tragedy: James Earl Jones

    Just my 1 million Turkish lira (anybody see that episode of Stern?)...

    David Dixon, MCP
    Internet Developer
    Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
    david@iisweb.com
    ytsedave@asu.edu

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:16:47 +0100
    From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
    To: "'The Ytsejam Mailing list'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Best album of 99 poll results
    Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E62107E789A1@daemsg02.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    yes, the waiting is over. And the winner is...

    BRITANNY SPEARS!

    Only joking, it's good for morale.

    First off, thanks to the 40 or so people who submitted
    lists. As I suspected, places 1 and 2 were basically
    foregone conclusions. There are, however, some very
    interesting albums in the list, some of which I'll
    almost certainly be looking/listening for in the near
    future. There were a couple of people who sent lists
    so predictable that I could have written them myself,
    but I think the wide range of bands and musical styles
    represented shows us what diverse musical tastes are
    present on the list. Oh, and if you're wondering, the
    numbers in brackets indicate the number of votes for
    a given album.

    1. Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory (30)

    2. Liquid Tension Experiment - LTE2 (18)

    3. Spock's Beard - Day For Night (9)

    4. Steve Vai - The Ultra Zone (8)

    5. Mullmuzzler - Keep It To Yourself (7)

    6. Anathema - Judgement (5)
       Metallica - S And M
       Primus - Antipop

    9. Amorphis - Tuonela (4)
       Dali's Dilemma - Manifesto For Futurism
       Derek Sherinian - Planet X
       Type O Negative - World Coming Down
       Vanden Plas - Far Off Grace

    14. DC Cooper - DC Cooper (3)
        Dreamscape - Very
        Engine - Engine
        Fish - Raingods With Zippos
        Guns N Roses - Live Era 87 - 93
        Lemur Voice - Divided
        Daniele Liverani - Viewpoint
        Nine In Nails - The Fragile
        Royal Hunt - Fear

    24. Tori Amos - From Venus And Back (2)
        Angra - Fireworks
        Black Star Rising - Barb-Wired Soul
        Clockwork - Surface Tension
        Collective Soul - Dosage
        Crimson Glory - Astromonica
        Def Leppard - Euphoria
        Edguy - Theatre Of Salvation
        Fu Manchu - King Of The Road
        The Gathering - How To Measure A Planet
        Gordian Knot - Gordian Knot
        King Crimson - The ProjeKCts ProjeKCt Four
        KoRn - Issues
        Vitali Kuprij - VK3
        Lake Of Tears - Forever Autumn
        Machine Head - The Burning Red
        Marilyn Manson - Last Tour On Earth
        Megadeth - Risk
        Neal Morse - Neal Morse
        Mr. Bungle - California
        My Dying Bride - The Light At The End Of The World
        Nevermore - Dream In Neon Black
        Opeth - Still Life
        Queensryche - Q2K
        Sevendust - Home
        Spock's Beard - Live At The Whisky
        S.U.P. - Chronophobia
        Testament - The Gathering
        Tiamat - Skeleton Skeletron
        Tristania - Beyond The Veil
        Luca Turilli - King Of The Nordic Twilight
        Various Artists - Voices A Tribute To Dream Theater
        Wellwater Conspiracy - Brotherhood Of Electric
        John Williams - Starwars Episode I

    57. 7Zuma7 - Deep Inside (1)
        Alice In Chains - Greatest Hits
        Angel Dust - Bleed
        Beck - Midnite Vultures
        Jimmy Buffett - Beach House On The Moon
        Camel - Rajaz
        Control Denied - The Fragile Art Of Existence
        Chris Cornell - Euphoria Morning
        Creed - Human Clay
        Dark Tranquillity - Projector
        Deep Purple - Total Abandon Australia 99
        Bruce Dickinson - Scream For Me Brazil
        Divided Multitude - Inner Self
        Eldritch - El Nino
        Empty Tremor - Eros And Tanathos
        Encores, Legend And Paradox - A Tribute To ELP
        Euro Boys - Long Days Flight 'Till Tomorrow
        Flotsam And Jetsam - Unnatural Selection
        Freedom Call - Stairway To Fairyland
        Martin Guerre - Original London Cast Recording
        Steve Hackett - Darktown
        Sophie B Hawkins - Timbre
        Hollenthon - Domus Mundi
        Holy - Dio Tribute
        Human Clay - Creed
        Ice Age - The Great Divide
        Iced Earth - Alive In Athens
        Incubus - Come Together
        Incubus - Make Yourself
        John Paul Jones - Zooma
        Karma To Burn - Wild Wonderful Purgatory
        King Crimson - Cirkus
        Labyrinth - Timeless Crime
        Limp Bizkit - Significant Other
        Live - The Distance To Here
        Tony MacAlpine - Master Of Paradise
        Majestic - Abstract Symphony
        Yngwie Malmsteen - Alchemy
        Marillion - Marillion.com
        Mastermind - Excelsior!
        Billy McLaughlin - Out Of Hand
        Moonspell - The Butterfly Effect
        Kevin Moore - This Is A Recording
        Motley Crue - Live, Entertainment Or Death
        James Murphy - Feeding The Machine
        Nightwish - Oceanborn
        Overkill - Necroshine
        Paradise Lost - Host
        Plan E - Songs For A Rainy Day
        Porcupine Tree - Stupid Dream
        Qoph - Kalejdoskopiska Aktiviteter
        Rage Against The Machine - The Battle Of Los Angeles
        Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Californication
        Royal Hunt - Double Live In Japan
        Samael - Eternity
        Scythe - Each Other
        Seal - Human Being
        Self - Breakfast With Girls
        Sepultura - Against
        Shootyz Groove - High Definition
        Sodom - Code Red
        Static X - Winsconsin Death Trip
        Stone Temple Pilots - No. 4
        Subway To Sally - Hochzeit
        Tangerine Dream - SOHOMAN
        The Bronx Casket Co. - The Bronx Casket Co.
        The Hellacopters - Grande Rock
        The Magic Elf - Live
        The Matrix - Soundtrack
        The Tea Party - TrypTYCH
        Therion - The Crowning Of Atlantis
        Three Fish - The Quiet Table
        Threshold - Clone
        Threshold - Decadent
        Fredrik Thordendal - Sol Niger Within
        Tiles - Presents Of Mind
        Ulver - Themes From William Blake's The Marriage
                Of Heaven And Hell
        Unida - Coping With The Urban Coyote
        Steve Vai - Flexible Leftovers
        Various Artists - Return Of The Grievous Angel:
                          A Tribute To Gram Parsons
        Rick Wakeman - Return To The Centre Of The Earth
        Weltenbrand - Der Untergang von Trisonia
        Victor Wooten - Yin Yang
        WWF - The Music Vol. 4
        Zenobia - October

    Two questions before I sign off for today. I own 38 of
    these albums - who can beat me? And for those of you
    who think you know my taste - which 10 albums did
    I vote for?

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com)
    Currently playing: EVEREVE - Stormbirds

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    Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:15:40 +0100
    From: Jorrit Godeke <jogobass@hetnet.nl>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Similarities in music...
    Message-ID: <3870BD1C.813FF875@hetnet.nl>

    Hey all,

    First of all: I wish U all a happy new year/decade/century/millennium!

    Second: this will (probably) be my last post to the 'Jam, so goodbye for
    now.

    Third: Mikel (in 'Jam 5254) was talking about similar riffs in music.
    Listen to The ones who help to set the sun (the bass-intro played with
    harmonics). THen listen to 'The fall of reason' by Watchtower, about
    3:10 minutes into the song. There's that same basspart, only played much
    better by Doug Keyser.

    I've brought this up allready about a year ago, but it's still a nice
    thing to here. It makes you wonder if maybe John M. and Doug K. knew
    each other. Both albums, WDADU and Control and Resistance are from 1989.
    Great album by Watchtower, by the way. To bad it's their only album.

    Bey,

    --Jorrit

    I've

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:53:13 +0100
    From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
    To: "'The Ytsejam Mailing list'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: That old devil music
    Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E62107E789A2@daemsg02.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    some of you should get a kick out of this site:

    http://web.infoave.net/~tracymelody/devilrock5.html

    What this guy has discovered in the lyrics of Led
    Zeppelin songs just cracked me up (good, even if you
    don't have Real Audio installed).

    I'm off to the shopping precinct to kill somebody (must
    be all those wicked bands I listen to).

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com)
    Currently playing: CEMETARY - Sundown

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:07:37 EST
    From: DTGirl2612@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Dream Theater Tribute Bands
    Message-ID: <0.3d009e1f.25a22349@aol.com>

    Happy New Year, Century, and Millennium jammers.

    Does anyone know of any Dream Theater tribute bands in the UK???????

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:24:17 -0800 (PST)
    From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: re: Charlie vs KJLB
    Message-ID: <20000103172417.19826.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com>

    Joe Rivera <hj_rivera@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Not that I want to beat a dead horse, but of those
    who still think
    > Charlie was God....
    > I know this was years ago, but I still see people
    saying that
    > DT is not DT without Charlie and, man, although
    people are
    > entitled to their opinion, it's a wrong opinion :)
    (tongue firmly in cheek)

    Charlie was the best! What's wrong with you? Do you
    have a tin ear? ;o) [tic]

    Your quote of "DT is not DT without Charlie" sounds
    like something I wrote. It's amazing how funny that
    sounds out of context...

    I wrote that during the mini-debate over who could
    replace MP in DT. Some people cried out that DT would
    not be DT without MP. My point was that every time any
    band member leaves, that same opinion comes out from
    somebody. My reference to Charlie was just to
    illustrate this fact, and that it had occured when
    Charlie left, as well as when Kevin and Derek left.
    Same old conversation, over and over..."Band member X
    left band Y and now it's not the same. They should
    change their name to Z".

    my $.02, BH

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    Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:54:45 +0100
    From: "Marcel Schot" <neuronix@writeme.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Best album of 99 poll results
    Message-ID: <200001031754450820.01A8A653@Sylvester>

    >Two questions before I sign off for today. I own 38 of
    >these albums - who can beat me?
    Just beat you :) 39 here (none of which were bought after reading this
    mail)
    Am I a freak now?

    Marcel Schot

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:46:35 -0700
    From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: That old devil music
    Message-ID: <000e01bf561a$de57d5e0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>

    >Subject: That old devil music
    >http://web.infoave.net/~tracymelody/devilrock5.html

    Don't fundamentalists just piss you off sometimes (alot for me)? First when
    they proclaimed Van Halen as being Satan worshippers I thought that was
    laughable, but I about shit myself when they debunked Jewel. lol. Funny how
    they didn't mention anything of Ozzy Osbourne or Black Sabbath. Both are
    equally as notorious as Led Zeppelin if not more. hehehe. Ah, well. It
    kind of reminds me of this whacko fundamentalist that comes to town every
    year and gets parents all riled up for a couple of days by preaching (and
    saddeningly convincingly, it seems) that the Smurfs are the little blue imps
    of Satan come to lure our young children away from Jesus. Surprising, he
    had nothing to say about the Snorks who were fantastical (and obviously
    evil) underwater creatures who breathed through phallic looking appendages
    attached to their heads.

    Anyway, I sent those guys a good old fashioned tongue-lashing. Hopefully
    they send me a water soluble "666" tattoo or something.

    --
    KorgX3 laughs in the face of God cuz He knows all the best jokes.
    NP: Pain of Salvation - One Hour...
    

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Wahlen <mva@sbbs.se> To: Le jam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: LTE and Mahavishnu Orchestra Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.04.10001031921540.7109-100000@holly.sbbs.se>

    > Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 11:57:34 +0100 > From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Re: LTE and Mahavishnu Orchestra > Message-ID: <3870809E.BBF77F0F@mol.com.mk> > > > From: Erik Wahlen <mva@sbbs.se> > > > > I just wanted to ask if anyone else has noticed a resemblance > > between "Meeting of the spirits" by Mahavishnu Orchestra and > > parts of "Freedom of speech"? It's pretty cool.. > > It never came to me, but now that you mention it, as I think, can it > possibly be the little keyboard driven break that changes the whole > previous mood of the song, which goes right before the riffs starts? :) > I bet you had THAT on mind! >

    Yup! It's the spot in "Freedom of speech" that starts at about 3 minutes into the song. "Meeting of spirits" is a very good song by the way. I found it on a jazz-compilation CD that my dad got for Christmas. You wouldn't happen to know which album it's on?

    As for emotional songs, here are some of my current favourites: (I would actually say that all good songs are emotional in some way)

    Dream Theater - Scarred, WFS/LTL, Finally free Fates Warning - The eleventh hour, Don't follow me, APSOG Queensryche - Promised Land, I will remember, The mission, Eyes of a stranger Anathema - Judgement, Fragile Dreams, Empty Marillion - Most of Brave, The space... Genesis - I find most of "The lamb lies down on broadway" very moving (excepting e.g. Counting out time :) Other artists that can be very moving as well are: Rush, Savatage, Tori Amos, Kate Bush, Loreena McKennitt, Peter Gabriel, Tiamat, etc, etc, etc....

    /Erik

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    Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 11:13:17 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: if "the 90s bring new questions".... Message-ID: <20000103191317.68830.qmail@hotmail.com>

    what do we get for getting to the 00s? (zeroes? zips? what the hell are gonna call this decade, anyway? and when do we get to start making fun of Nirvana and Pearl jam for making music that's. like, soooooo 90s? :)

    (in other words, happy new year....woulda said it before, but i was too busy watching football.....how 'bout them Michigan Wolverines?!)

    about the below, since when do contracts mean anything in the music biz, anyway? I was always under the impression that King's X had a 14 album deal with Atlantic, and they're plying their craft for metal balde these days, after only about 6 or 7 releases on Atlantic.....

    >Actually if I recall correctly, Mike himself said they signed a contract > >back in 92 for like 9 albums or something which means their contract > >would almost be up if you include LaTM as an E/W release

    anyway, I'm now in possession of a decent computer, so if anyone wants to points me to good mp3 sites....not looking for downloads, per se, just places where i can hear new music

    Partha

    (i'm thinking that it's about time someone set up another mass sampler tape trading session.....new year, new music, it just goes together.....if anyone wants to do this on a small scale, look at http://www.umich.edu/~ahtrap/tapeswap.html)

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 14:35:01 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: That old devil music Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001031428280.8859-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Korg Ecksthrey wrote:

    > >Subject: That old devil music > >http://web.infoave.net/~tracymelody/devilrock5.html

    > Don't fundamentalists just piss you off sometimes (alot for me)?

    Actually, I find it quite ironic that they think us to be the misled ones, the ones who need guidance, when it's really themselves. I don't get pissed off at them as much as I feel REALLY sorry for them. I mean, whatever happened to "love your neighbor as you would love yourself?" (Sorry to you non-christians, athiests, and those of you who really don't like to hear Bible quotes.) These people really really have things backwards.

    > First when they proclaimed Van Halen as being Satan worshippers I > thought that was laughable, but I about shit myself when they debunked > Jewel.

    Oh, yeah, didn'tcha know? She proclaimed her union with Satan immediately after consummating it with him! It happened right after the New Year!

    > Anyway, I sent those guys a good old fashioned tongue-lashing. Hopefully > they send me a water soluble "666" tattoo or something.

    Not that I think it would have any effect whatsoever on him/them, but I sent my comments along as well. They weren't any kind of tongue lashing, but rather a "Why do you think that people don't have free will? I mean, even according to YOU, it's a God-given ability" kind of thing. Maybe they'll "see the light..."

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "No one wants to fuck with a crazy person. If someone tries to mug you, The best thing you can do is take out your money, and piss on it while mumbling and ranting. Chances are, they'll get scared and leave you alone. Of course, you'll have to wash your money." - Norman Calkin, on urban survival -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:46:15 -0800 From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: LA Show Questions Message-ID: <002501bf5623$32853ce0$046400c0@oemcomputer>

    OK, so Kim and I will be in LA for NAMM and want to go to one of the DT shows there (Saturday one, probably). Anyone know when/where you can get tickets? I checked out the "oh so helpful" ticketmaster site, and of course there was no information on it. Anyone know anything about the location of the LA show, like is it a nice place (with seats hopefully), and is there anywhere to park your car?

    Oh, and for SF people, I noticed on the Ticketweb site that the opening act for the SF DT show is listed as The Star People. As someone who sat through them awaiting Ozric Tentacles last year, I can only say this: arriving late is no big deal.

    Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of books, music, comics, movies, games, CG software, programming tools and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com

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    Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:47:37 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Therion 'Deggial' Message-ID: <38710AE9.21391F43@ozemail.com.au>

    Therion's new album is called 'Deggial' It's basically similar to songs like 'Crowning Of Atlantis', 'Mark Of Cain' and 'Seawinds from the last album. It has 11 songs, most are full of choirs, orchestra's, great arrangements and fantastic songwriting. One song features the vocals of Hansi Kurusch from Blind Guardian. The album is pretty damned good and fans of 'Theli' and 'Vovin', 'Deggial' sits somewhere in between those. I believe that it's out on Nuclear Blast later this month.

    Check out this Therion site for up to date info: http://megatherion.cjb.net/

    gaz http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:01:35 EST From: Compadre32@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Remaining US Tour Dates???? Message-ID: <0.d1ba5de3.25a2682f@aol.com>

    I am dying of anxiety here anticipating the remaining US Tour dates. Im near Houston and I hope that DT makes their rounds in Southeast Texas. I guess they will since Kirby is the new fan club administrator and shes a Houston native. My question is how much longer do you think people like me will have to wait??

    -compadre32-

    NP: Pink Floyd - Relics (Bike is the trippiest song ever!!!)

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 18:14:28 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: That old devil music Message-ID: <0.320cb0ab.25a28754@aol.com>

    The funniest things were that they cited Billy Joel and Michael Jackson, blamed Metallica for the lyrics in a COVER song, and called Slayer "One of the most popular groups in rock history." I think I was literally rolling on the floor.

    np - 98 christmas cd

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    Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:18:32 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Charlie vs KJLB Message-ID: <200001040018320620.002769BC@post.hem.hu>

    Hey Joe,

    >Not that I want to beat a dead horse, but of those who >still think Charlie was God and resent KJLB joining >the band, who has heard Charlie doing Metropolis pt1?

    I am pretty curious. Where can I find that stuff?

    Bye

    ZZZZZ mailto:zeusz@bigfoot.com UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz

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    Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:26:26 -0600 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: That old devil music Message-ID: <B4968C42.201D%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>

    Heh, the best part is when they start talking about Christian rock and saying that Amy Grant and Stryper are tools of the devil.

    Although, I might have to agree about Stryper. ;)

    -Brian

    --

    Life is 10 percent what you make it and 90 percent how you take it.

    -Irving Berlin

    > From: JamesAhab@aol.com > Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:24:16 -0800 (PST) > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: Re: That old devil music > > > The funniest things were that they cited Billy Joel and Michael Jackson, > blamed Metallica for the lyrics in a COVER song, and called Slayer "One of > the most popular groups in rock history." I think I was literally rolling on > the floor. > > > np - 98 christmas cd >

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 18:30:02 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Emotional songs Message-ID: <0.acc06eb1.25a28afa@aol.com>

    >< No Nick Cave? I find most of his work quite emotional.The same applies for Beck's "Mutations",one album that surely worths a listen.I'd like to add 'The demon cleaner" by Kyuss,"Lunacy booth" by Therapy? and "Sanitarium" by you know who. ><

    Almost every song on Therapy?'s "Infernal Love" is emotional. "A Moment of Clarity", "Me Vs. You", "Misery"...that guy has a haunting voice.

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:05:22 -0600 From: "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Music for Y2K Message-ID: <000f01bf564f$c7ffd2e0$b95099d1@default>

    While I know that most people on the jam are well read, some of you may have missed last Fridays Wall Street Journal. There was an article on "What's In/What'sOut" for the year 2000. You'll be happy to hear that the open minded editors feel that "Latin Pop" is out and......................."Progressive Rock" is IN!

    Mike

    Mike and Susan Verstraete www.sound.net/~homewks

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    Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:02:13 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: Dream Theater mailing list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Oh, god, it's another plug from NHBRadio Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000103210027.00a2e860@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:27:26 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Best album of 99 poll results Message-ID: <0.3c550511.25a2b48e@aol.com>

    Surprises? Marilyn Manson getting 2 votes. Goes to show that not everyone on this list is respectable. Neal Morse only getting 2 votes. 2nd only to SFAM on my top 10 of 99. Megadeth's Risk and Q2K getting 2 votes after hearing so many people say they hated them. Counting Crows new album getting no votes. I would've given it a vote, but I got it after Dec. 31. Seeing about 5 or more albums that were released before 99 on the best of 99 list.

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    Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:25:18 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Music for Y2K Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001032222010.41657-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Mike & Susan Verstraete wrote:

    > While I know that most people on the jam are well read, some of you > may have missed last Fridays Wall Street Journal. There was an article > on "What's In/What'sOut" for the year 2000. You'll be happy to hear > that the open minded editors feel that "Latin Pop" is out > and....................... "Progressive Rock" is IN!

    Oh God, if only that were true - I can't believe that I only discovered this kind of music a couple of years ago. I'm so glad that I might have, and I still find it hard to believe that people can be so closed-minded when it comes to things like this. I mean, it's like they're the Fundamentalists of music. :)

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