YTSEJAM digest 5549

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Tue Jul 18 2000 - 10:37:01 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5549

    Today's Topics:

      1) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5548
     by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
      2) RE: Computers
     by welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5548
     by Fett2002@aol.com
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5548
     by IAmClay777@aol.com
      5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5548
     by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
      6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5548
     by EvoReaper@aol.com
      7) Fates Warning creating prog metal?
     by Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com>
      8) DOUBLE DIP CD-ROMS
     by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
      9) Another reason Netscape sucks
     by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
     10) milwaukee metal fest
     by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
     11) Queensryche in Minneapolis ? whats the deal ?
     by MentalHunk@aol.com
     12) DT covering Maiden and Sabbath?
     by "Daniel ArmdenDANgeruz" <ytse_dan@hotmail.com>
     13) Re: Kings-X show in Salisbury MA
     by "Matej Grginic" <izolit@siol.net>
     14) 74 miin CDR's who cares
     by welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
     15) JP in spotlight? keys competing w/ guitar...
     by welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:59:59 -0400
    From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5548
    Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFALHOPNNPNHKNIEGACAAA.szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>

    }I would also highly recommend a 19 or 21 inch monitor. with
    }audio programs, you have a lot of stuff going on all over
    }the screen, and you run out of space fast.

    Doesn't Win98 support dual video cards/monitors? If you can't swing a
    monitor as big as 19" or 21", you could always beg/borrow/steal
    another 15" or 17" and run both video cards/monitors. That way you
    could have your mixer in one screen and other apps (f/x plugins,
    editing) in another. Plus, it is a pretty cool thing to drag from one
    monitor and drop into another, with the cursor going off the right
    side of one and right onto the left side of the other.

    Is a dual monitor setup a RAM hog? anybody?

    Steve Z

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:04:00 +0200
    From: welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: RE: Computers
    Message-ID: <39731250.AB7C4ADE@dust.de>

    >>>I need something powerful enough to handle software in the vein of
    >>>Cakewalk, Cubase, Cool Edit, etc.

    Any current PC will do exactly what you need it to do. It'll come down
    to the price issue
    and how long you want this computer around. Anything -- 450 mhz proc--
    which are considered
    slow/low cost by todays standards -- will be fine. Try to grab yourself
    a 600 mhz or possibly an 800.
    And then you get into if ya want a single or dual unit (quad isn't worth
    mentioning)
    -- dual is over kill for what you need. Your RAM
    will be good at around 256 but at 512 it will groove. Mainly you're
    going to want a fair amount of HD space.
    Around 15-30 gigs if you really plan to be recording and editing on the
    machine. Depending on what machine
    you're chasing this stuff can be really cheap -- in both meanings of the
    word.

    ya daddy

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:51:34 EDT
    From: Fett2002@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5548
    Message-ID: <94.739e5ce.26a49396@aol.com>

    In a message dated 7/17/00 10:27:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << np-the Crystal Method-Trip Like I Do >>

    Don't you mean Filter?
                            Mike C.

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:22:10 EDT
    From: IAmClay777@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5548
    Message-ID: <8e.7e28636.26a49ac2@aol.com>

    << What, and JP doesn't have this problem? This is a guy who
     may claim to be primarily interested in the "song", but
     is rarely happy to do anything that won't nab at least a
     little spotlight.
     Still, could be worse. Could be Vai. >>

    It's true that JP has this problem (The 'jam' before THE was pretty horrible
    in DC, I would've been much happier having him just play it exactly as on the
    CD, but ah well...) However, there is a reason Steve Vai's group is called
    Steve Vai! The band is there to support him, not to be a band as a whole...
    And anyway, if you've ever seen Vai live, you know that this statement is
    inaccurate. Mike Keneally, Steve'a keyboardist/2nd guitarist (is a God) is
    much more of a shwo-off than Vai himself. I mean comeon, playing a keyboard
    AND guitar solo at the same time, with one hand each? Vai just gives his fans
    what they want, odd appearances, great music, and awesome stage presence.

    BTW, the SFAM tab book is NOT OUT YET, which is probably why you can't find
    it anywhere. It isn't due to be released until October, last time I checked.

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:44:56 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5548
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.10007171443020.5367-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>

    actually, it's Filter AND Crystal Method. It was a collaboration for the
    Spawn soundtrack (which is pretty decent, BTW). The instrumental of the
    song is on one of Crystal Method's albums. I believe the song is on a
    Filter album as well (with vocals and added guitar crunch, of
    course)

    -Al

    On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 Fett2002@aol.com wrote:

    >
    > In a message dated 7/17/00 10:27:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    > ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
    >
    > << np-the Crystal Method-Trip Like I Do >>
    >
    > Don't you mean Filter?
    > Mike C.
    >

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      w e w a l k i n t h e d a m a g e o f m a n k i n d
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 17:03:04 EDT
    From: EvoReaper@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5548
    Message-ID: <a4.72d89ff.26a4ce88@aol.com>

    << What, and JP doesn't have this problem? This is a guy who
     may claim to be primarily interested in the "song", but
     is rarely happy to do anything that won't nab at least a
     little spotlight.
     Still, could be worse. Could be Vai.
    >>

    Just explain one thing:
    In what way, is Steve Vai's music "spotlight nabbing"?

    Tix for the Aug. 30th show haven't gone on sale yet, have they?

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Fates Warning creating prog metal?
    Message-ID: <20000717213117.21068.qmail@web4804.mail.yahoo.com>

    Regarding the comment from 93X saying that Fates Warning created prog metal, to
    be perfectly honest, Nick Davis, the guy who hosts "The Metal Detector"
    wouldn't know Prog Metal if it bit him in the ass. Nothing against Fates
    Warning, but this guy (and that station) plays only straight ahead metal. I'm
    surprised as hell that FW even got mentioned!!! What song did they play off
    the new album?

    Here's my take on the history of Prog Metal...

    Other metal bands may have "evolved" into the prog realms over time
    (Queensryche, Fates), in my eyes, the first straight-ahead no-holds-barred
    prog-metal band was Watchtower right around 1990. You listen to them and you
    KNOW it had NEVER been done before. (And let's be honest, they weren't doing
    it all that WELL either). But in my eyes, that's where prog metal began.

    Also, there were some prog-rock bands which had been around LONG BEFORE and
    have been known to kick out some metal-sounding tunes (Rush and King Crimson,
    for example) but I really wouldn't classify these two bands as metal.

    If you want to argue as to when Fates Warning changed from Power Metal to Prog
    Metal, it's up to you. Watchtower though is the first UNDENIABLY Prog-Metal
    band, in my book at least.

    Later! (I should probably stop getting paid to send e-mails here at work and
    punch out now.)

    - Dr. Teeth

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:04:32 -0500
    From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
    To: <jmsouter@airmail.net>
    Subject: DOUBLE DIP CD-ROMS
    Message-ID: <000901bff043$5e4ddf20$823688cf@jammer>

    DOUBLE DIP CD-ROMS

    It's hard to imagine that 650MB isn't a big enough data store, isn't
    it? But you've got to back up your hard disk, and with all those .mpgs,
    avis, and MP3 files -- not to mention your *real* work -- and two-
    thirds of a gigabyte isn't looking all that big anymore.

    I wrote last week about a consortium that's been working on DVD-RAM,
    which will let you read and write 4.6GB platters at your desktop. Here
    now comes Sony and Philips, which invented the CD, with a "Double
    Density CD-R/RW."

    The idea is that with some minor tweaks -- squeezing the distance
    between the "grooves" from 1.6 micrometer to 1.1 micrometer, and
    shortening the pits from .833 micrometers to .623 micrometers --
    engineers can double the amount of data that a CD-R can hold. Best of
    all, it requires no new dyes and the same type of laser as existing
    CD-Rs. The refinements are in new electronics and improved optics,
    getting the laser to track closer and more precisely.

    Sony, a company spokesman said, is part of the DVD Forum but is not
    especially interested in DVD-RAM (though it's participating in DVD+RW
    discussions.) The advantage of Double Density CD-R is that it's a
    modification of an existing standard, the spokesman said, not a whole
    new thing. That will make it cheaper than the competing technology;
    while Sony declined to say how much more expensive Double Density
    burners would be, he described the increase as "not significant."

    Sony expects to finalize the format in September (shortly after the
    first DVD-RAM drives are supposed to ship), and hopes to ship the
    first drives by the end of the year -- but the spokesman sounded less
    than entirely certain of that deadline.

    Oh yes -- some form of copy protection appears to be part of the spec.
    For your information, Sony's ATRAC format (used on MiniDiscs) allows
    only first-generation digital copies.
    [ Bastards ]

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:12:07 -0500
    From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
    To: <jmsouter@airmail.net>
    Subject: Another reason Netscape sucks
    Message-ID: <000c01bff044$6d68f2a0$823688cf@jammer>

    Gibson Says: AOL/NetZip/Netscape *Are* Snooping On You

    Steve Gibson (of "Shields Up fame--- http://grc.com ) sent out a security
    alert yesterday:

         The NetZip, Netscape/AOL, and Real Networks Download Utilities
         *ARE* Spying On Us!

         NetZip's "Download Demon" was purchased by Real Networks and
         renamed "Real Download". then Netscape/AOL licensed it from Real
         and called it "Netscape Smart Download." By watching the "packet
         traffic" flowing in and out of one of my machines while
         downloading a file through the Internet, I verified the rumors
         which you may have heard regarding these programs All of these
         programs immediately tag your computer with a unique ID, after
         which EVERY SINGLE FILE you download from ANYWHERE on the
         Internet (even places that might not be anyone else's business)
         is immediately reported back to the program's source where it is
         logged and recorded along with your machine's unique ID. They
         also have the opportunity to capture and record your machine's
         unique Internet IP address.

         This information is then compiled and used to create a detailed
         "profile" about who you are based upon the web sites you visit
         and the files you have downloaded. Perhaps you don't mind being
         watched and tracked as you move around the Internet ... and then
         having every file you download logged and cataloged and used to
         assemble "your profile". But the idea of this seems extremely
         invasive to me, and unless you have carefully read the program's
         license you might not be aware that this is going on or that
         "you agreed to it" when you accepted the terms of the license!

         More than 14 Million people are already using the original
         NetZip Download Demon. NetZip knows the exact number, since
         every copy of their program "phones home" to report on what
         their users are doing! And I'm sure people are downloading Real
         Network's ReadDownload and Netscape's SmartDownload like crazy.

         A Class Action lawsuit was recently filed against Netscape/AOL
         because of this privacy invasion, so perhaps the PC industry
         will begin to receive the message that this sort of secret
         spying and profiling is not okay with the rest of us, even if it
         is buried within a lengthy license agreement. You decide. And,
         of course, the next release of my own OptOut spyware detection
         and removal utility WILL consider these programs to be
         dangerous, and warn its users of their presence in their
         systems. But I wanted to be sure that you knew RIGHT AWAY what
         was going on, and that I had independently confirmed that this
         invasive file download tracking really was occurring.
         If you have questions or comments, please see ...

         news://grc.com/newsletter
         http://grc.com/newsletter.htm

    Thanks Steve!
                                          Click to email this item to a friend
                                               http://www.langa.com/sendit.htm
                                                                              

     What Steve Didn't Mention...

    Steve Gibson didn't focus on this in the item above, but note that the
    preferred/default method for upgrading all Netscape browsers also is via
    Netscape Smart Download.

    This means *ALL USERS OF NETSCAPE BROWSERS* will end up in the AOL
    download-tracking database.

    Worse, to use Smart Download, you have to register at the NetCenter site--
    - so AOL/Netscape will have your name, email, and other personal info on
    file. This means they can (if they choose) associate your downloads with
    *you* individually and specifically, and not just with some arbitrary
    machine-generated ID.

    This is so wrong it's beyond words. Alas, it's also very, very typical of
    AOL's abusive approach to end-users; seeing them only as passive targets
    for advertising. Sigh.
                                  

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 19:42:20 -0400
    From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
    To: Ytse Love-In <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: milwaukee metal fest
    Message-ID: <20000717194220.B28214@optical.mindstorm.com>

    Jammers:
    Anyone planning to attend the Milwaukee Metal Fest, *please* see
    Hollow Ground and send me a review. They rehearse in the same studio
    as my band, and we've become bood friends. I want to know what the
    experts (you metalheads) think of them.
    -d

      ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough
      d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
      cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
      http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 23:53:36 EDT
    From: MentalHunk@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Queensryche in Minneapolis ? whats the deal ?
    Message-ID: <f.6b3e4dd.26a52ec0@aol.com>

    I know the Halford/Queensryche/Iron Maiden show was supposed to be at the Roy
    Wilkens Auditorium on August 27th....is that still the case ???
    I know Janick Gers got hurt...did this postpone the tour ??
    I see nothing at all on ticketmaster's site, nor on queensryche.com...
    Can anyone in minneapolis please clue me in ?? when are these tickets on sale
    if it is going to happen ??

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:08:36 GMT
    From: "Daniel ArmdenDANgeruz" <ytse_dan@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Cc: themirror@egroups.com
    Subject: DT covering Maiden and Sabbath?
    Message-ID: <20000718070836.65154.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Folks,

    I just heard DT has performed a few new covers this year...
    Does anyone have those recorded? PLEASE UPLOAD THEM SOMEWHERE!

    -The Trooper (Iron Maiden) - Greece, last weekend I think

    -Heaven And Hell (Sabbath)
    -Killers (Maiden), sung by Mike Portnoy!?!?
    (both in Madrid, april 2000)

    None of us deserves to die before listening to those!! :-)

    Dan
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    Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:26:40 +0200
    From: "Matej Grginic" <izolit@siol.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Kings-X show in Salisbury MA
    Message-ID: <001a01bff0ab$0ba1f320$0600005a@siol.net>

    07/30/00 Salisbury MA Beach Club
    according to www.kramerskorner.com
    Go, you'll enjoy it tremendously!! :)

    > I guess this e mail sort of pertains solely to New England jammers and
    > Kings-X loyal followers.. thanx.
    > Hey all,
    > I was talking to a couple buddies of mine last night and I suddenly
    > remembered that I had seen a flyer advertising a Kings-X show in Salisbury
    MA
    > at the end of this month. The funny part is that I can't remember where I
    > saw the flyer or the name of the club (must have been drunk or something).
    > Does anyone know if I was dreaming this or what? I remember seeing that
    > Dokken was playing the same club a couple nights earlier. Can someone
    > clarify if they know? Thanks... Later, Jeremy Kube

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:47:43 +0200
    From: welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: 74 miin CDR's who cares
    Message-ID: <397419AF.B4A82370@dust.de>

    >>>Who on here doesn't know how to read a package? You can buy 74 min &
    80
    >>>min. CDRs. And yes it holds 80 mins.

    Guys.....who cares? You hav entirely too much time on your hands....

    ya daddy

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:10:10 +0200
    From: welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: JP in spotlight? keys competing w/ guitar...
    Message-ID: <39741EF2.DC0C7816@dust.de>

    >>>What, and JP doesn't have this problem? This is a guy who
    >>>may claim to be primarily interested in the "song", but
    >>>is rarely happy to do anything that won't nab at least a
    >>>little spotlight.
    >>>Still, could be worse. Could be Vai.

    Simon, Hmm, I'd like to agree with ya but I've sadly never seen DT in
    concert....
    only the IMages Words Video they made. From the little I've seen of JP
    play
    he's anything but out in the spot light. He kinda just stands there and
    does his thing.
    Not too entertaining, maybe a little boring to watch. But like I said
    I've only seen a
    little live footage so I may be way off base. I don't agree in even
    comparing JP to Vai
    however -- you're comparing apples to oranges. Vai is the frontman of
    his band. He travels
    under the name 'Steve Vai'...we go to see him for the most part, he's
    supposed to be out in
    the spotlight. We go to see DT -- DT goes on tour not JP -- it's a band
    effort.

    I totally see where you were going and what you meant in your comparison
    but I just don't think
    it's a hot comparison. But, good reply.

    >>>I read an interview with MP, in which he said that Jordan
    >>>had been carefull not to mess with the DT blueprint in his
    >>>contributions. That irritated me lots - firstly, I don't
    >>>think that there's room for a progressive band to HAVE a
    >>>blueprint. Secondly, I'd love to see DT go back to the
    >>>days when the keys competed more-or-less evenly with the
    >>>guitars. SFaM's more a throwback to Awake than it was to I&W.

    Now this I think is ludicrous. A blueprint? When I listen to SFaM
    I don't hear
    anything like a formula hiding behind it....FII, yes formula.....but if
    there is formula to SFaM, they did a great job in covering it up.
    But as far as the keys competing with the guitar, it seems to be heading
    that way. We'll
    just have to see what they come up with next. But, too me -- though I'm
    a guitarist and this might
    be biased -- I thought SFaM had a lot of great keys in it, and more than
    any other DT album.

    ya daddy

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