YTSEJAM digest 5552

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Thu Jul 20 2000 - 11:10:17 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) I'm still alive!
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      2) cdnow
     by Bunny1682@aol.com
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5551
     by Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
      4) Fw: Divided + more
     by "Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
      5) need directions....
     by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
      6) Kindred Spirits Playing problem!
     by Gerardo Carstensen <gercarst@yahoo.com>
      7) Re: need directions....
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5551
     by "Kris Norris" <variant@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5551
     by EvoReaper@aol.com
     10) Queensryche prog
     by CeaSerin@aol.com
     11) Metallica prog?
     by CeaSerin@aol.com
     12) John Petrucci evil twin?
     by CeaSerin@aol.com
     13) Re: More computer shit
     by "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
     14) DT Bootleg shows...
     by Joe Ferry <elisa@ptd.net>
     15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5549
     by Bm2112dt@aol.com
     16) Weren't the decepticons made from recycled iMacs?
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     17) spock's moustache
     by "Raivo Hool" <hool@artun.ee>
     18) Damn! Someone found that book! :)
     by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
     19) Re: R: YTSEJAM digest 5401
     by "Matej Grginic" <izolit@siol.net>
     20) Re: McBrain
     by Daniel Gitlin <dgitlin@winstar.com>
     21) SFaM live show MP3 address
     by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
     22) RE: SFaM live show MP3 address
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
     23) Hampton Bays show
     by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
     24) Need help from Portland, OR 'Jammers
     by Evan Hsun-Han Chou <echou@stanford.edu>
     25) Re:Ytsejam 5205
     by cassidy <cassidy@x-treme.gr>
     26) Rockwave Festival
     by cassidy <cassidy@x-treme.gr>

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:27:57 -0500
    From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
    To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: I'm still alive!
    Message-ID: <39761D5D.B867DF82@isd.net>

    Hi All!

       I've been VERY busy lately and fell behind on my Jams.. :(
    Here I go again....

    RE: CD Players - Hearing Myung bass parts - Matrox G400 MAX

    Andrew Coutermarsh wrote:
    >Al has said more than once that when one buys a TRULY good CD player, the
    >difference in sound quality, even on an existing P.O.S. stereo system, is
    >like taking a heavy wool blanket off of your speakers. The sound is THAT
    >much clearer. I don't know exact model numbers, but two good places to
    >look for REALLY good CD players (though they're probably not in your price
    >range of $1500 for a whole system) are Denon and California Audio Labs.

    I'll agree with California Audio Labs, but not Denon.. Denon is better than
    most consumer audio gear, but far from high-end; Particularly when not
    dealing with their top-shelf models. I've recently been inside some newer
    Denon gear; One CD Player and one integrated amp. The CD player
    certainly had better electronics than the average crap, but it's mechanical
    integrity was horse shit.. As for the amp... They should be ashamed for
    building a turd like that. The power supply was laughable and the source
    switching was pathetic. Not to mention the fact that it was here because
    it blew up! Another engineering milestone! They have figured out a better
    way to get a $25.00 device to blow in order to protect a .20 cent fuse. :-/

    The only way gear is going to get better is if we STOP buying junk and
    send a message to the consumer electronics industry. We did that to
    the American auto industry several years back and the results were
    better built vehicles.

    Realistically, you need to spend $600.00 + to attain a player worthy
    of your valuable CD collection's playback needs. Look at Rotel, and Adcom's
    upper tier players, as well as the lower models from California Audio
    Labs, Arcam, and Rega. All these companies offer something in the
    $600.00 price range. Listen closely first.. ALL these players have
    their own unique sonic signature. Most dealers will let you return
    your purchase if the relationship between your existing system and
    the new player is a mismatch. If this is a first time venture into mid-fi/
    High-end, you should be THRILLED by ANY of those machines.
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    KorgX3 wrote:
    >Now, Rush, on the other hand, holy shit. I love the Rush bass tab
    >archives. :) Makes learning the songs quick n' easy. :) The problem for
    >me with alot of DT stuff is that even with headphones on, the bass is
    >really inaudible (like in Metropolis, Part I). I'd love to learn to play

    Now here is a RARE case where an EQ could be useful... Try attenuating
    EVERYTHING below 60 Hz and above 400 Hz. Then boost up the frequency
    ranges between 60 Hz and 400 Hz one band at a time until the bass guitar
    attack becomes the most audible. The more bands and wider control range
    the EQ has, the better the chances are of singling out the desired instrument.
    The SONG will sound terrible, but the end result could be an easily distinguishable
    bass guitar part. The frequency range quoted is the approximate area you want
    to concentrate on. Don't be afraid to try band tweaks in order to achieve the
    instrument definition your looking for.
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    James Thorpe wrote:
    > The Matrox G400 Maxx is good
    >for dual monitors. RAM hog?..... maybe if you're

    I use a G400 MAX with twin monitors. The card rocks, but it still has it's
    shortcomings like EVERYTHING else. At the moment, I can't think of another
    card I would trade it for... At least for my applications. Dual screens kick ass!
    The Windows image quality is impeccable, I can't say that for very many cards.
    The G400 is void of any video anomalies, it behaves quite well and isn't prone
    to leaving chunks of shit lying around the desktop like MANY game oriented
    cards. Setting up the dual-head display properties can be cumbersome for
    the average computer user. Once setup it's generally trouble free.
    Gaming performance is adequate and compatibility is better than average.
    I rarely play games anymore, and when I do it's generally stuff like "Unreal"
    and "Need for Speed III". My son plays several games.. When game setup is
    troublesome it's usually the fault of the SB Live! The video card does everything
    we've thrown at it with ease. All in all, the card rocks... And I'm a picky fucker.
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    Simon Krogh wrote:
    >Most things in Win are ram hogs...don't see why dual monitors should be any
    >different. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a MAJOR ram hog and
    >also a good excuse for Win to crash...

    Windows certainly isn't perfect, but most people's problems can be blamed
    on unstable hardware or poor Windows management skills. If you're one of
    those clowns that downloads and installs every application under the sun just
    to try them out... And winds up relying on the uninstall to clean up the
    droppings, you deserve to have trouble. I'm running a G400 MAX with twins
    on a 128 meg machine. It's NOT crash prone. I'm also running under WIN Me..
    (Windows Millennium Edition) I've also setup MANY dual-head machines under
    Win 98SE.. Running the dual displays is responsible for a slight performance
    hit, but the benefits of dual monitors is priceless! IMHO.

    The Jury is in and I have ruled! <grin> The G400 MAX rules!!!
    (I can't say that about many past Matrox products)

    Judge Al ProGtologist
    Short-Circuit Court Judge
    Audioville County, Minnesota.

    NP: Type-O-Negative - "Bloody Kisses"

    --
    Al -  The Ytse-ProGtologist
                               ^
    Switchcraft Microsystems
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of
    that comes from bad judgment"  --Will Rogers
    

    (I really need a new sig..)

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:22:36 EDT From: Bunny1682@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: cdnow Message-ID: <11.6a2c2f0.26a7842c@aol.com>

    Hi yall, I heard on the news a few weeks back that cdnow was going out of business within a month. Assuming it was still safe to place an order (which I've never done before), I did so yesterday and was scandalized by the fact that we must pay first, THEN get the merchandise. Insanity! Anyways, I guess I was searching for assurance that cdnow is still a sound business. Or a warning that they're going to rip me off as sure as the day I was born.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:07:48 -0700 From: Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5551 Message-ID: <39765EF4.795C9C2F@home.com>

    > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:21:39 +0200 > From: "Salvatore Maisano" <m.saby@tiscalinet.it> > To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: R: YTSEJAM digest 5405 > Message-ID: <024301bff139$43778740$9c370b3e@thor> > > > Excuse me but momently I'm absent... I'll come back in about 3-4 days... = > Thanks! > > ------------------------------

    Ahhhh... who care?

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:15:19 -0300 From: "Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Fw: Divided + more Message-ID: <001b01bff1ce$dbd09460$0101a8c0@JonDoe.prtc.net>

    I don't recall this message making it to the jam. If it did, then sorry for reposting it.

    -----Original Message----- ]From: Alexis/Axel <alexis1@prtc.net> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Date: July 13, 2000 10:29 PM Subject: Divided + more

    >Hello. To the guy who asked about Lemur Voice's Divided compared to >Insights, I think Divided is heavier. IMO they are both excellent albums, >and the main difference between them is that Divided is more aggressive. > >I got a few cds in the mail and wanted to comment on them: > >Devin Townsend - Infinity and Physicist >Alright, I know some people are going to defer with me on this, but I have >to say that Infinity is Devin's best work. That cd is awesome, and he >actually sings on most of the songs. IMO it is better than Biomech, >although that too is an awesome cd. About the Physicist, it's the most >aggressive stuff i've heard from him (never have heard SYL) and I have to >say that it's my least favorite Devin cd, although I'm not saying it's bad. >It's very good, but I just wish that he mixed more the singing with the >screaming, since his singing is so beautiful and emotional. > >Pain of Salvation - Entropia and OHBTCL >This band is freakin awesome! Their style sounds so original, so creative. >The lead singer's voice is awesome, I just love the dynamics of his range. >I think Entropia is the best of the two, although OHBTCL (which I've only >listened to once) is ver good as well. > >Galactic Cowboys - Let It Go >More of the same from the boys, with some great songs and a few quasi-filler >songs. Drums are much better on this cd, since they were played by the >drummer from King's X, much better than Alan Doss. > >ELP Tribute >Awesome cd. Just like the guy who mentioned it recently, I had never heard >any of these songs, but I loved them. > >Steve Morse - Major Impacts >Sounds quite good. The only thing is that I >need more of Dave LaRue, who is more laid back in this album compared to >other SMB albums. >

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:48:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: need directions.... Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000719194559.11099A-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>

    hey, does anyone know if the directions to the electric factory in philly are correct from "mapquest"? i thought i remembered someone getting screwed when they tried to get there to see satch a little while back. should i rely on those directions, or should i get them from somewhere else. thanks.

    -eric

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:04:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerardo Carstensen <gercarst@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Kindred Spirits Playing problem! Message-ID: <20000720010448.22613.qmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com>

    Hi!

    I´m trying to figure out how Petrucci plays and what notes he plays in that sweep picking part of Kindred Spirits (LTE1) (in the part like a small bridge that sounds like "adventure game"). I don´t have right here the exact CD time when he plays it, I hope someone can understand about which part I´m talking! I´ve already checked the Tab in the Official DT page, but I think it´s not accurate. Also, if someone plays it like it is written, please tell me how you do it. (I´m not good in sweep picking!).

    Any help will be appreciated! Thanks

    Gerardo Carstensen.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:16:13 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: need directions.... Message-ID: <f2.fda6f6.26a7acdd@aol.com>

    >< hey, does anyone know if the directions to the electric factory in philly are correct from "mapquest"? i thought i remembered someone getting screwed when they tried to get there to see satch a little while back. should i rely on those directions, or should i get them from somewhere else. thanks. ><

    Where are you coming from? If you're on 95, get off at exit 17 (Central Phila/Independance Hall), follow Callowhill to 7th St. and make a right.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:58:56 -0700 From: "Kris Norris" <variant@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5551 Message-ID: <7D042FE5CCD54D11DA5E00807CFD6BE9@variant.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/guitar/152/sdv.mp3 karaoke version! hehehe

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:39:06 EDT From: EvoReaper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5551 Message-ID: <c8.7c97864.26a7ce5a@aol.com>

    << Respectfully withdrawn. Yes, he does sing, that multitalented bastard. :-) And he wears this pinstriped suit onstage that is literally totally soaked with sweat at the end of the show... THose guys all give amazing performances. Speaking of Mike Mangini, I have some of his drumsticks! (Signed, even...) When I saw Vai it was on Thanksgiving last year, and during his drum solo Mike played parts of it one-handed while eating a giant turkey drumstick! He definitely gets some credit for that. What do you guys think of Dave Weiner? He had this weird solo where he included little bits of Russian folk dances... SImilar to the way JP includes Tarantella and FotB in his bullshit exercises.... :-) I mean come on, the OiaL solo has some cool parts, but you can't tell me it's not random bullshit (And say that it still adheres to a musical structure; that's not the point). >>

    Dave is the man. I talk to him quite frequently now actually. He has a solo album coming out soon, and just made a guest appearance at Jemfest 00'. (A celebration of Ibanez JEM guitars, and other Ibanez guitars...). I really wish he would have gotten a longer solo spot. He got the dream gig man, he really did. He started off interning for Ruta Sepetys, Steve's manager. She hooked him up with a job at The Mothership, (Steve's studio), and did odd jobs, running for coffee, cleaning the glass between the control room and the sound room...things like that. Well, he was then hired on for Steve's personally assistant for the UZ tour. There were some parts that could use an extra guitar, and would lighten the work-load on Keneally, (Not that he couldn't handle it...), so Steve told him one day, "Here's a list of songs, bring your guitar and have them learned." (That's not word for word, it makes Steve sound like a prick...but NO, he's not. :-) ) So next ya know, Dave's gettin all the chicks. :-)

    I wouldn't be suprised if Dave hit the next Vai tour as well.

    I saw Vai 11-23-99-NYC. Best damn show I've ever seen....stuck right between Steve's monitors the entire night. Even though Sardinas gave me a shower of bear and sweat....I'd do it over and over again...

    Andy

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:04:06 EDT From: CeaSerin@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Queensryche prog Message-ID: <7b.710ae74.26a7d436@aol.com>

    In a message dated 7/18/00 11:35:24 PM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:08:28 +0200 To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Queensryche prog??? Message-ID: <397472EC.18FD9EC6@dust.de> Exactly when did Queensryche enter into the prog metal category? Great band, but come'on. Strictly rock...nothing more. Okay I'll spot you parts of 'Mindcrime'. But really. ya daddy >>

    Damn, I've always heard of Queensryche being referred to as the "thinking man's band." A band that writes highly intelligent lyrics and strongly written songs and one hell of a powerful set of musicians. They might do keyboard/guitar solos in unison, and they might not write the mandatory 20 minute song, but by my standards they were a band that came out with an EP that sounded like nothing else, forged ahead a trail that few chose to tread and became the leaders in intelligent metal. Mindcrime to me is still the untouchable concept album in metal. Done over ten years ago and still no other metal band can match it's presence. Sure, I know that these days that don't sound that great and they are playing down, but everything from Promised Land back was great. I know that they may fit into the "melodic metal" catagory more. But if you wrote down a list of qualities that would set a band into a prog meatl catagory, then they would surely fall into it. Don't get me wrong, I respect your opinion.

    <A HREF="http://www.mp3.com/CeaSerin">J. Lamm www.mp3.com/CeaSerin</A>

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:07:45 EDT From: CeaSerin@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Metallica prog? Message-ID: <34.8259f76.26a7d511@aol.com>

    In a message dated 7/18/00 11:35:24 PM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << I respectfully submit that Metallica's "...And Justice For All", released in 1988, was prog metal. Discuss. >>

    I'm sorry but I refuse to allow myself to throw in any and every single band that manages to write good lyrics, tight well written music, and high levels of technicality. Though Metallica and the prog genre may not exactly be "night and day," i believe that that album falls more into the catagory of thrash/speed metal. However I submit this. I will compare this subject this way: I don't think Cradle of Filth is black metal, I think they are gothic metal with black metal tendencies. Just like Metallica's "...and justice for all" is a thrash/speed metal album with progressive tendencies.

    J. Lamm <A HREF="http://www.mp3.com/CeaSerin">www.mp3.com/CeaSerin</A>

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:11:48 EDT From: CeaSerin@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: John Petrucci evil twin? Message-ID: <78.7de56f1.26a7d604@aol.com>

    Okay, I don't know if anyone else in here is a King Diamond fan, but I am. When I got the new King Diamond CD I was surprised to see that Dave Harbour was the new bassist (he and the drummer are from state of LA). Not only that but he looks strangely like John Petrucci now. Dumb subject matter, I know. However, if you look at that picture in the insert I swear you'll get a crack out of it. He looks like John Petrucci's evil twin that escaped from the hospital.

    J. Lamm funny observations R Us www.mp3.com/CeaSerin <-----my band, go hear us and stick it to Master P and the rest of the No Limit soldiers who we are slightly beating right now in the rankings.

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    Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:14:57 -0500 From: "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: More computer shit Message-ID: <B59BE6F1.9B1%jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>

    > Admittedly, the current trend is phasing Macs/Power PCs out of > circulation umm, how many millions of iMacs have sold in the last few years? How many profitable quarters has Apple had? What? Apple's market share is growing? Before Jobs returned, maybe the above statement was true, but no more.

    > While I'm on the topics of computer recording and MS-bashing, why has > no one recommended that Richie explore a Mac for the project? the only reason I didn't say he should go get a G4 immediately is because he said he was getting the components from a friend for dirt, and you generally can't build a Mac from parts. But since we're on the subject, getting a G4 with two hard drives and 256 MB of RAM would be the way to go. Get Mark of the Unicorn's Digital Performer software with a 2408 I/O device, and you'll be all set. Performer is also a powerful sequencer in addition to digital audio software. My friend Gary uses this equipment to record all kinds of stuff for Disney (karaoke CD's, sing alongs, greatest hits, etc). this would be the ultimate way to go (without spending extra thousands of dollars for Paris (what my band is recording our new CD on) or Pro Tools (a ripoff when you consider paris for 1/3 the price))

    > God, man! How could you even suggest such a thing?!? Submitting > someone to the tortures of a MacIntosh. That's just inhuman, man. Not > even I would stoop so low. Krog is now my sworn enemy (as is Korg) At least my interface is easy to use and comprehend, and isn't a glorifed, bloated DOS shell. Oh, and I have 1/10th the problems my windoze using friends have.

    > Go ahead and try to put round tires > on it all you want, but no one makes round rims for your model of > Ferrari. Actually, they do. But I only have 15,000 to choose from instead of 30,000. (oh, darn! I can't play the latest of the 5000 deer hunter games! phooey!)

    @!# @!# @!# @!# Jim guitarist, Room 213 www.room213.com

    "Yes I feel Emphatic about not being Static and not buying philosophies that are sold to me"

    Incubus @!# @!# @!# @!#

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:09:37 -0700 From: Joe Ferry <elisa@ptd.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT Bootleg shows... Message-ID: <3976B3C1.BB148F1F@ptd.net>

    Hello all. I was just wondering if anyone out there knows of any really good DT bootleg videos or CDs concerning video and/or sound quality. I've noticed a bunch of shows floating around from the SFAM tour, but I don't want to end up buying something only to have the sound/video quality on it suck! So, any opinions out there on what the quality bootlegs are, SFAM or otherwise, would be appreciated :) Thanks!

    Joe

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:48:20 EDT From: Bm2112dt@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5549 Message-ID: <20.8eb2f89.26a7eca4@aol.com>

    In a message dated 7/18/00 8:35:34 AM Mountain Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << I thought SFaM had a lot of great keys in it, and more than any other DT album. >>

    i'm gonna have to agree here..i'm all about JR's keys work in SFAM..I've been moved repeatedly by Moore's work on I&W, and haven't experienced that type of appreciation for keys on an album until i heard SFAM for the first time...i don't quite understand all the criticism that JR is receiving from DT fans..isn't this the type of keys that we've been waiting for since Moore left the band?...i know i've been waiting. can't wait until the next masterpiece to reaffirm my faith in Mr. Rudess

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:38:46 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Weren't the decepticons made from recycled iMacs? Message-ID: <001f01bff215$3721cbe0$515892d0@korg>

    > Krog is now my sworn enemy (as is Korg) At least my interface is easy > use and comprehend, and isn't a glorifed, bloated DOS shell. Oh, and I

    hahahahah. Exposed is the Apple Elite! Woe unto he that speaks out against Steve Jobs! Ah! :) I swear. It's not that I really hate mac users, I hate macs. You guys are like neo-Christian Nazis sometimes in your intense efforts to preach the open-apple gospel.

    I think it's a cache 22. I don't like Macs because I see their users turn into beligerant cult-like mind-controlled collective conscious Borg, but I'd probably use one if I weren't afraid of being assimilated. Actually, the only times I've ever seen them in action was when my friend's dad enticed me to sit at it and it abruptly crashed in Solitaire whenever I drug the wrong card to the wrong spot. The other time was when I heard another maniac complain that it was all of the PC oriented 'net services that made it so difficult for his Mac to connect to the 'net. Mmm hmmm... Is it just me or do Mac users all share a common affinity toward keeping Radio Shack in business, too? *rubs chin thoughtfully*

    I also love how the Apple Elite's personal attacks and insults and abandonments are more like a challenge in order to get you to try their mind-control devices. Trust me, I saw the Lost Boys. I remember when Michael was tricked into drinking vampire blood. I'm not that damned stupid. One of these days I'll drive a stake through Steve Jobs' heart and will free the world!

    But, until then, there's alway Diablo II, which you Mac users can't play yet. :D -- KorgX3 says neener neener neener.

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:15:32 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <hool@artun.ee> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: spock's moustache Message-ID: <001301bff21a$4ab12ca0$d3636ac2@lbi.ee>

    ]From: "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>

    > (I'm partial to "Waste Away" myself, though...)

    There's nothing like a good dose of "Waste Away" that makes people go "whoa! rock!" :-) Been there, tried that on not so few guys and gals. :-)

    Raivo

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 03:21:08 -0400 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Damn! Someone found that book! :) Message-ID: <3976A864.27F9@atl.mediaone.net>

    > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:00:14 -0400 (EDT) > From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> > To: The Dance of Ytinrete <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: Various thoughts > Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.21.0007191329090.18367-100000@gs.bass.org>

    > Pellaz plugged: > [personal website contained in sig]

    > I thought his name looked familiar and visiting his site clinched it. > I've > been working my way [when I have time] through a compilation entitled > Tales of the White Wolf: a group of short stories about Mike > Moorcock's Elric character written by other authors, including Pellaz.

    Oooops, yep, that's me. Longtime Jammers will remember that I ran Mike M.'s international fan-club for about five years, from 1988-1993 or so.

    > Do finish that story about the party soon.

    Yea, if I can ever get my scanner working again I'll scan those photos in and finish the harrowing tale of eating dinner with some guy named Bruce Sterling (I didn't know who he was until about halfway through), in the same room as Andrea Dworkin. Yipes!

    --Paul Still considering air-trippin' to the Roseland; it will be...interesting since the World Science Fiction Convention starts the same evening -- in Chicago. :)

    -- +---- Paul W. Cashman, pellaz@atl.mediaone.net ICQ 4151223 -------+ | Website: http://people.atl.mediaone.net/pellaz/ | | or www.paulcashman.com :) | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:13:56 +0200 From: "Matej Grginic" <izolit@siol.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: R: YTSEJAM digest 5401 Message-ID: <000b01bff244$0a505d00$0600005a@siol.net>

    Absent, but at the same time SO present :) Get back SOON buttmunch! :)

    >> Excuse me but momently I'm absent... I'll come back in about 3-4 days... = Thanks! <<

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:59:57 -0400 From: Daniel Gitlin <dgitlin@winstar.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: McBrain Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000720095506.0095b1d0@mail.winstar.com>

    Does anyone else find it funny that so many Americans feel the need to spell it Dream "Theatre", the British way, and here's Nicko, a Brit, spelling it the American way? Oh well, back to lurking. --Dan

    At 12:27 PM 07/19/2000 -0700, you wrote: > YTSEJAM Digest 5551 > > >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:16:39 +0100 >From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> >To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: McBrain >Message-ID: <397571F7.4B55DE6A@picsel.com> > > >The mighty Nicko McBrain of Iron Maiden has been saying some nice things >about "Michael Portnoy" and "the Theater". Go to >http://www.ironmaiden.com/ and read his latest entry in the tour diary. > >-- >Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd >graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland > >------------------------------

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    Date: 20 Jul 2000 14:04:03 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFaM live show MP3 address Message-ID: <20000720140403.2380.qmail@whitfield.chek.com>

    A while back, someone posted a URL where they'd made available a bootleg of the entire SFaM show. Could you re-post that URL, please? I want to get the lot onto my hard disk!

    Are there any more shows available like that, perchance?

    ~Simon

    Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at http://www.buffymail.com

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:21:40 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: SFaM live show MP3 address Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC1B42@ISDCRE00>

    www.dreamtheater.mit.edu

    try that one

    JM

    > -----Original Message----- > From: Awake . [SMTP:awake@buffymail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 9:18 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: SFaM live show MP3 address > > > A while back, someone posted a URL where they'd made available a bootleg > of the entire SFaM show. Could you re-post that URL, please? I want to get > the lot onto my hard disk! > > Are there any more shows available like that, perchance? > > ~Simon > > > Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at > http://www.buffymail.com

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:45:31 -0400 From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Hampton Bays show Message-ID: <3977108A.C9A59C9@seacoast.com>

    anyone know why they removed the Aug 31 Hampton Bays NY show from the tour list. Ticketbastard still has it listed?????

    Bob

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:02:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Hsun-Han Chou <echou@stanford.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Need help from Portland, OR 'Jammers Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0007200755150.24325-100000@tree1.Stanford.EDU>

    Hi everyone,

    I'm just lurker here, but I was wondering if anyone living in/around Portland, OR could help me out. I'm new to the area and I desperately want to see a show here in August, but I have virtually no info on the venue, "The Paradigm" on 9th St. The thing is, I have a friend flying out from the East Coast to see it with me and I want to make sure that they don't pull that "only 21 and over" crap on us before he books his tickets. Whenever I've called this week, no one picks up and I'd like to find out before the weekend, when they'd presumably be there. (BTW, the band is In Flames, a Swedish melodic death metal band) Any help would be greatly appreciated- sorry for going off topic, but I'm getting desparate. :P

    Thanks, Evan

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:51:08 +0300 From: cassidy <cassidy@x-treme.gr> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Ytsejam 5205 Message-ID: <3976D99C.49E1DC7B@x-treme.gr>

    >PS. what's a pikachu?

    I believe it's a pokemon.One could say it looks like a cat/rat crossover,only it's yellow.Discuss

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    Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:06:36 +0300 From: cassidy <cassidy@x-treme.gr> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Rockwave Festival Message-ID: <3976EB4C.E916733C@x-treme.gr>

    Probably,some of you may have already heard about DT headlining in this festival which took place in Athens,last Friday,as Iron Maiden had to cancel their show . The show was really great.As expected.What i didn't expect was people jumping up and down all the time,singing,headbanging, even moshing( i believe that James LB should be credited for part of that cos he seems to have progressed much as a frontman and communicated very well with the fans,overall,much better than the 5yial video) . Clouds of dust rose (essential effect for an open air concert) during many songs and especially during The Trooper which was the last song of their setlist. What i found kind of annoying,was the interval music.I too like Beck (and i don't mean Jeff Beck) but not after In Flames or while waiting for DT to come on stage. I recall hearing "Deadweight" several times and as well as some "crossover" bands,those that toss a sampler next to a guitar that is.Anyway,not all were that bad,but considering DT appeared after 3 atmospheric/death metal bands you can understand the crowd was not really in the mood for such stuff. All in all,the show was great.

    >But let's face it, I joined this list >for Dream Theater information. The Ytsejam used to be one-stop >shopping.

    Here's some juicy info for you mate.Apparently James was not that sure he could remember all the lyrics to the classic maiden tune so he had them written down on paper,and stuck them somewhere the crowd couldn't see.Fortunately,one of the technicians had the bright idea to throw those to the crowd after the band had left the scene. I got meself the last two verses.(%

    cass

    np:Unkle & Ian Brown - Be There.Mp3<<<excellent song btw

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