YTSEJAM Digest 5558
Today's Topics:
1) a bit of retro fun
by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
2) Tickets for Roseland
by "Yola Zaborowska" <jmzbass@hotmail.com>
3) Ytse car audio
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
4) Re:YTSEJAM digest 5557
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
5) Re: James can be a twaize.
by "Matej Grginic" <izolit@siol.net>
6) art metal
by Joshua Rasiel <josh@on-linedesign.com>
7) Re: "No, you're wrong."
by Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com>
8) The Wolverine Overdose is updated...
by "Stefan Zell" <stefanzell@hotmail.com>
9) trilogy
by welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
10) Re: leatherbound Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy
by Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5555
by "=?iso-8859-1?q?M=E1rio=20R.=20Canazza?=" <mrcanazza@yahoo.com.br>
12) G4 cube
by Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB <Daniel.Costello@rl.af.mil>
13)
by Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB <Daniel.Costello@rl.af.mil>
14) Re: G4 cube
by Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net>
15) Re:James Labrie
by Fett2002@aol.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5557
by Fett2002@aol.com
17) The Ytsejam Tape Trade 2000
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
18) Tape Trade Part 2
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5557
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:52:07 +0200
From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: a bit of retro fun
Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E62107022E1C9B@daemsg02.software-ag.de>
Hi all
rumours would have us believe the Derek (who's he?)
liked to pork the odd groupie or three. If that's
true, then why isn't he on this list?
http://www.metal-sludge.com/LongShort.htm
Hardly any mentions of people who play in prog bands
at all, actually - could this be because they spend
too much time wanking musically...
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com)
Currently playing: IN EXTREMO - Verehrt Und Angespien
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:16:09 EDT
From: "Yola Zaborowska" <jmzbass@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Tickets for Roseland
Message-ID: <20000724121609.67837.qmail@hotmail.com>
Original message:
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:7:20 -0400
]From: "~^*nicole*^~" <chaosgirlie@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: tickets
hey there just curious where DT tickets are going to be sold...i've looked
around a bit and so far i cant seem to find them. i'm looking for tickets
for the NY, CT, and MA shows...anyone care to help?!
peace thanks Nicole
The tickets for the Roseland show can be acquired at the Irving Plaza box
office. Roseland's box office is under construction or something and they
are using Irving Plaza to sell tickets.
Irving Plaza is located at the corner of East 15 Street and Irving Place.
Box office phone number is: 212 777-6800.
Tickets are $25 and NO surcharges.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:19:16 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Ytse car audio
Message-ID: <397C3444.26B03139@isd.net>
DoubleJay54 wrote:
>hey, i just bought a new car and i want to put a really nice system in it. I
>know a good amount about sound equipment, but almost nothing about car audio.
>I really don't know what to look for as far as stuff for a car. Anyways, i
>was wondering if anyone knows what i should get, or has any ides, keep in
>mind im a total sound freak and money is no object. Thanks in advance, JJ
What is the make, model and year of the vehicle? Please include the location
of the factory speakers as well as the speaker size of the factory
installed speakers. How big is your alternator? <grin>
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of
that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: 24 Jul 2000 12:28:44 -0000
From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re:YTSEJAM digest 5557
Message-ID: <20000724122844.7255.qmail@viebrock.chek.com>
>Then I discovered DT's IaW and got quite confused. "This
>is somewhere between my idea of art metal and that band
>called Toto," I thought.
Y'know, it always struck me that Toto were the missing
link with DT. Most people tend to refer to them as a driect cross between YES and Metallica, with various bits
and pieces mixed in; but I hear a LOT of Toto in DT,
particularly on I&W. No bad thi8ng, if anyone's heard the
very excellent LIVEFIELDS album.
>> ...I thought PROG fans were open-minded?
YEah, but what about Ytsejammers?! ;)
>Derek is also great, and I think where DT was on FII and
>the tour, he fit in well. He did have the whole rockstar
>thing down, which is funny, because you watch a show
>from the Awake tour, and he looks like death just warmed
>over.
He was probably just a little bit peeved that
they'd gone to the trouble of hireing him, and then
making him completely inaudible in the mix. I mean, I
really do despair of their sound guy. The 5YIaL version
of 6:00 is the only time I've EVER heard Myung mixed to a
sensible level, and yet on the same track, the keys just
aren't there!
>>Of course, it could also be argued that Metallica was
>>never a progmetal band because they abstained from
>>puffy silk pirate shirts.
>
>and i havent heard a single metallica song about
>tungsten.
LOL. Anyone remember how DT were dressed for the TTT vid?
How we cringed. I can just see JP in a silk cape, actually
>Au contraire, age does make a difference. Eleven years
>means that when they're fifty he'll be sixty...You don't
>want the band to die in pieces. Look at Genesis now.
Ah, hell; I dunno why they don't just hire Rick Wakeman
like they probably wantd all along!
>I think im one of the few people who actually prefer
>Dereks version of Acos than any other version with Kev..
No way. The version I heard with KevMo was way inferior.
Of course, given the rate at which DT have improved, it
probably helped that they'd had 5 years to chew on the
thing, plus the added fire of a new member.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:39:38 +0200
From: "Matej Grginic" <izolit@siol.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: James can be a twaize.
Message-ID: <000501bff56c$3b78aa60$0600005a@siol.net>
Well, I don't know what you think about James,
but in my experience, he's a really sweet person.
He came out of the venue before the show started
here in Ljubljana last week and he approached us
fans (we didn't attack him) and said 'You guys want
me to sign anything'. He was pretty nice and took
pictures with us. All his iniciative and it was obvious that
he didn't have much time cause of the soundcheck.
And after the show he was really friendly too, answering
all our annoying Mullmuzzler questions and took pictures.
He stayed as long as we wanted and completely satisfied
all the fans with answers. John Petrucci was also extremely
friendly. Mike was obviously in a bad mood so we didn't
jump at him, but he stick around anyway and took pictures.
Jordan was obviously very tired too, so he was short
spoken, but nice nonetheless. John Myung was missing.
It just goes to show you that they are all genuinely
nice people, but they are people and have their moods
and moments. We fans have to respect that. But call any
of them asshole again and I'll kick your teeth in if we
cross path.
Matej
P.S:
Any jammers went to see the show in Krizanke/Ljubljana/
Slovenia? Any knowledge of any kind of recording of
the show?
>>
Well, you'd Have to observe how he reacts to the crowd
and the band in certain situations. For instance, at the Palace
during the concert that was shut down due to the overbooking--
where was he? He heard about it--so he left, while the rest of
the band remained on stage out of love for their fans. I allso
recall him mouthing off to a member of the audience--Japan '95,
aka "Mind Control", and I quote, "Study the language before you
speak to me." Sure, the guy in the audience may have been yelling,
but that's no excuse to act like that towards your fans.
When they played here in Minnesota last, (Feb 11th) James was
getting pretty heated with Portnoy because he made a mistake twice
during his backup vocals.
::shrug:: maybe it's my opinion, but hey--he's a jerk compared to the
rest of the band.
<<
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:52:28 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <josh@on-linedesign.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: art metal
Message-ID: <397C3C0C.3BA42D46@on-linedesign.com>
>I used to call this idea "art metal" simply because to me Rush was art
>rock and Metallica was, uhm, metal.
You don't work at columbia house, do you? I just got their latest
catalogue and they gave DT a little picture box, which was great. They
featured Awake, the "challenging 2nd release from art-metal band Dream
Theater".
never mind which release it is..."art metal"?
btw people, get your asses on over to columbia house. a couple months
ago I got a BMG ad, and I thought "hey, I really should get some more
cd's". So I went to see if their web site allows you to select anything
from the catalogue for your first selections, not just what's in the
little stamp book they send you. It does! but, BMG has a crap web site.
But I still wanted to get some free CD's, so I checked out columbia
house. they have a good site, decent selection, and if I recall, I
should be getting a "buy 1 get 3 free plus we'll paint your house and
smack your boss" offer pretty soon. thanks bmg!
gonna see IM in philly...
josh
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: "No, you're wrong."
Message-ID: <20000724130230.15395.qmail@web4804.mail.yahoo.com>
No, you're wrong.
You're still an ass-munch, buddy. You're not getting out of that one! ;)
> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:50:50 +1000
> From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5556
> Im sorry for offending you so much Dr Teeth, I had no idea you felt...
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:55:42 CEST
From: "Stefan Zell" <stefanzell@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: The Wolverine Overdose is updated...
Message-ID: <F273Q6CM8BDbQBE7vhC000085c5@hotmail.com>
.. with some news, new gigs and gig-reports. IF you want to check it out,
do so at:
http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/bands/wolverine
Take care!
/Stefan
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:02:30 +0200
From: welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
To: "ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: trilogy
Message-ID: <397C4C76.8E62F5C6@dust.de>
I'm sorry -- I can't resist...
>>>."..containing all 5 parts of the trilogy - unabridged!"
read that sentence and tell me what's wrong with it!?
Hmm, 5 parts of a 'trilogy'......yeah, okay.
But anywho. What're'ya talking about!?
andy
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Date: 24 Jul 2000 16:54:38 +0200
From: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: leatherbound Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy
Message-ID: <tkuu2dflgsx.fsf@zussun8.desy.de>
Hi Scott and any other interested parties...
Scott> Hey guys, something interesting I just picked up within the
Scott> last month is a leatherbound version, containing all 5 parts
Scott> of the trilogy - unabridged!
]From your copy could you give me the ISBN since I couldn't find the
book on amazon.com with a title search? Thanks.
Jason
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:55:07 -0300 (ART)
From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?M=E1rio=20R.=20Canazza?=" <mrcanazza@yahoo.com.br>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5555
Message-ID: <20000724145508.17817.qmail@web3102.mail.yahoo.com>
I've been to two DT concerts in Brazil. James singing
was very nice, not perfect, but i wasn't expecting
that.
He will never do the singing from Live at the Markee
again, just because THAT is perfect.
I met the guys in the hotel, and they were all very
nice, but the kindest was James.
And that's all i have to say.
--- ytsejam@torchsong.com escreveu: > YTSEJAM
Digest 5555
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1) Music OS
> by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
> 2) COmputer discussions...
> by welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
> 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5554
> by IAmClay777@aol.com
> 4) Re: COmputer discussions...
> by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
> 5) Derek!
> by HadesRaze@aol.com
> 6) Re: Computers: Mac vs. PC
> by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
> 7) Galactic Cowboys
> by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
> 8) Kings X / DT BOOTS
> by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
> 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5554
> by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
> 10) two issues, yes kansask show and roseland
> by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
> 11) Re: Late James in Consert
> by "J?rgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com>
> 12) CANADIAN TRAGEDY
> by Steve Godbout <godbouts@videotron.ca>
> 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5554
> by Fett2002@aol.com
> 14) more mac stuff :P
> by "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
> 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5554
> by CeaSerin@aol.com
> 16) musical classifications
> by "mikel@alphalink.com.au"
> <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
> 17) three days to a more righteous angle
> by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
> 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5554
> by "Joe Latuscha" <Joseph.Latuscha@Maine.edu>
> 19) Frank Zappa
> by cassidy <cassidy@x-treme.gr>
> 20) Re: Frank Zappa
> by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
> 21) Re: Douglas Adams
> by "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
> 22) Re: HoB's DT Clips
> by "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
>
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:17:36 EDT
> From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Subject: Music OS
> Message-ID:
> <LAW2-F215HPVjKP79pH00000855@hotmail.com>
>
>
> I figured I'd throw in my opinion on this topic,
> since it's what I do for a
> living.
> When computers first got used for making music, it
> was mostly MIDI
> sequencers on Atari and Amiga systems. When the
> Macintosh came out, there
> was a deal with Kurtzweil to help push them as the
> new music platform (if
> you look at an old K250, the slant on the back fits
> perfectly with the slant
> on the bottem of the old macs). Studios started
> using macs because the
> graphical interface was easier to use. IBM
> compatible systems were mostly
> used for buisness, and nobody made music software
> for them until the late
> 80s. When Pro Tools came out and introduced
> multi-track digital audio
> recording, it was designed for a mac, because that's
> what the target market
> had. But it wasn't actually the mac doing the work,
> it was the Pro Tools
> hardware. Now you can use Pro Tools with a mac or
> with Windows 98 or NT4.
> When Windows 95 came out, it had better integrated
> multimedia support, and
> it finally made the PC platform capable of doing
> high end digital audio
> multitracking.
> Currently Windows and BeOS are the only OSs to have
> the multimedia support
> as part of the operating system. With a mac, you
> need 3rd party software
> (ASIO, OMS, etc), and as stable as Linux is, the
> multimedia support is
> really lacking. BeOS looks like the best OS for
> music so far, but there's
> no real software for it yet, so it won't do any good
> to use it yet.
> Last February at winter NAMM, representatives from
> Microsoft met with all of
> the Windows music software developers and came up
> with the plans for DirectX
> 8.0 which should be out this fall, and also the new
> WDM standard which will
> allow music software and soundcard drivers to bypass
> the OS all together and
> make latency almost non existant (lower than some
> rackmount digital
> processors).
> If you're planning on putting together a computer
> music system, I'd suggest
> waiting until late fall.
>
> kevin
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:32:12 +0200
> From: welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Subject: COmputer discussions...
> Message-ID: <39785EEC.8D082C13@dust.de>
>
>
> Guys,
>
> There are many a mailing list for this PC vs. Mac
> BS......go use one.
> You'll never make PC lovers like Macs and vice
> versa, get over it.
> People use what they're comfortable with and favor.
> End of story.
>
> Move on.....
>
> andy
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:10:31 EDT
> From: IAmClay777@aol.com
> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5554
> Message-ID: <44.5a782d9.26a9c1e7@aol.com>
>
>
> << But Tool,i can't really say.
> Maybe progressive as composers but not as actual
> music players.
> Their music lacks the technicallity that
> charectirizes most
> current prog bands.Unless this was never an actual
> element of
> the spoken genre in the first place.
> Could one say that Tool is pop?Radiohead is
> considered to be pop
> and they're both similarly unlike to anything
> other
> i've heard in the last decade (very subjective
> here). >>
>
> Keep in mind that the first band ever labeled "prog"
> was King Crimson in
> 1969. OK, everybody touts KC like they're some kind
> of technical miracle,
> but, aside from the fact that Fripp's playing is
> indeed totally imacculate
> (While at the same time emotive), I don't think the
> KC stuff from the 70s
> really shows any great technics most of the time...
> A lot of it, like Tool,
> is about creating a soundscape, sort of a mood
> orchestrated by instruments to
> draw in the listener. Consider the improv "The
> Fright Watch" from the live CD
> "Night Watch." This song is not at all technically
> difficult (OK, so there's
> a shredding bass solo at the end, but even that's
> not too hard), and doesn't
> even make much compositional sense, but the whole
> song is an incredibly
> powerful mood.
>
> Keep in mind also that Fripp hated the 'prog' tag
> because it started being
> applied to Yes, ELP, etc., who he thought were just
> arrogant, pompous idiots.
> I think prog has a lot more to do with creating
> something that hasn't been
> done before-A la Mr. Bungle-And making it into a
> successful and commercially
> viable artwork (Remember that KC was a pretty
> popular band in its heyday).
> Thus, under these circumstances, we could call Tool
> prog.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:55:55 -0400
From: Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB <Daniel.Costello@rl.af.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: G4 cube
Message-ID: <D98BF3C61B66D311BA820000D11B4BDF014344A9@FSJREZ03.adm.rl.af.mil>
> by the way, has anyone else seen the new G4 Cube? now that is cool!
> http://www.apple.com/powermaccube/
> --
> pluki7-4290051-8498006
1 BILLION instructions per second?!? holy jeez! The fastest P3 hits what,
800 million?
Lawrence Livermore National Lab recently got a computer that hits 1.6
trillion ips.
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AFRL / IFEB
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:03:22 -0400
From: Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB <Daniel.Costello@rl.af.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Message-ID: <D98BF3C61B66D311BA820000D11B4BDF014344AA@FSJREZ03.adm.rl.af.mil>
> James was the nicest person there, aside from Rod Morgenstein who was
there too...
Rod kicks ass! :-)
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AFRL / IFEB
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:07:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: G4 cube
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0007241107250.17555-100000@barrel.dt.ecosoft.com>
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB wrote:
>
> > by the way, has anyone else seen the new G4 Cube? now that is cool!
> > http://www.apple.com/powermaccube/
Gee... Looks like a trashcan...
How fitting =)
>
>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:13:06 EDT
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re:James Labrie
Message-ID: <ba.897c903.26adb702@aol.com>
<<but just
out of curiosity, why is he an asshole? i dont know if you meant in the
music sense, meaning he is a bad musician, or in the sense that he is an
asshole as a person...>>
Personally, I don't really care if he's an asshole or if he's the nicest guy
pn the planet. I think he's a terrific singer and I love him in the band. I
don't want to hang out with him or anything, I just want to listen to the
music!
And as for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, my favorite moment was in the
fifth book, Mostly Harmess, where it says that nothing travels faster than
the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news. And that one race
of aliens actually tried to make a propulsion system powered by bad news. But
the problem was that wherever they went, they were seldom welcome when they
got there!
-Mike C.
-Mike C.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:17:34 EDT
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5557
Message-ID: <74.16f5003.26adb80e@aol.com>
> > to see them this time feel the same way? i'm ecstatic to see them, but
> > the same time feel a little bit cheated. oh well, c'est la vie....
> Jeez, I dunno. If I went to see them in February at the SLC venue and
>they came back and played the exact same thing they did before, I'd feel
>cheated. You missed out and should have seen the the first time, bro. I
>hope that if the WWF rolls around twice in a year to your area you don't
>expect them to have the exact same matches because you missed the first
>one that year. :p
You mean even if the poor guy missed out on seeing Gangrel versus Steve
Blackman?!
-Mike C.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:50:56 -0400
From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: Ytse Love-In <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The Ytsejam Tape Trade 2000
Message-ID: <20000724115056.A30657@optical.mindstorm.com>
Hey gang. It's been a really, really long time since we've done one
of these, so I thought that now's a good time to crank up another one.
A little history:
Back in 1995 and 1996, a couple of Ytsejammers organized tape trades
for members of the list. People who wished to participate typically
sent an e-mail to the organizer, stating whether they were in to
progressive rock, metal, or both. The organizer then set up groups of
two or three people with similar interests. These two or three people
made mix tapes for each other and sent them out.
I personally got turned on to a lot of great bands through these tape
trades, most notably Shadow Gallery. (I still remember hearing
"Crystalline Dream" for the first time on I-91 in Massachusetts.) Now
that my personal CD collection is outgrowing my racks, I want to share
all the new stuff I've been discovering with you guys.
Things are, of course, different now. CD Burners, mp3's, and Internet
radio stations have made tape swaps far less important. However, I
think that there are two very good reasons to run one of these now.
First, with all of the methods listed above, chances are good that
you're only going to get your hands on stuff you've heard of. It's
just not very easy to search for something you don't know the name
of. Secondly, and maybe more importantly, is that sense of community
we feel when we share things directly with members of the list.
So, without further ado, I'd like to announce...
The Ytsejam Tape Trade 2000 (insert trumpet fanfare here :)
I will start accepting e-mails from those of you that wish to be
involved probably in a week or so. Before then, I'd like everyone's
help in refining categories. When signing up for the trade, everyone
will select a certain amount of categories of music, both for what
they can send to people, and what they'd like to receive. In the
past, the categories prog and metal sufficed. Now, however, there is
so much new stuff, and it's all so compartmentalized, that I want to
make sure everyone gets what they're hoping to get. So, here are the
categories I have come up with so far. Please help me get these into
some logical sense:
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Classic Progressive Rock (King Crimson, ELP, UK, etc...)
Neo Prog (Marillion, IQ, Jadis, etc...)
Crimsoid Prog (Anekdoten, Dark Aether Project, etc...)
Melodic Prog (Spock's Beard, Flower Kings, echolyn, etc...)
RIO (Thinking Plague, 5uu, U Totem, etc...)
Any prog (a catch-all, "don't-care" generic prog category)
Classic-style Metal (Metallica, Anthrax, Pantera, etc...)
Progressive Metal (Shadow Gallery, Magellan, Lemur Voice, etc...)
Black Metal (Therion, etc...)
Death Metal (Cannibal Corpse, etc...)
Any metal (see any prog above)
---
I have set up a special e-mail address for the Ytsejam Tape Trade
2000. All e-mail concerning the trade should go to
tapetrade@miracle.burningblue.net (let's keep it off the Jam). Please
e-mail your suggestions about these categories. I'll finalize them
and start accepting e-mail to join the trade hopefully in a week.
In a sharing mood,
-d
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The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough
d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:56:29 -0400
From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: Ytse Love-In <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Tape Trade Part 2
Message-ID: <20000724115629.B30657@optical.mindstorm.com>
Oh, two things I forgot. You can currently get more information by
fingering tapetrade@miracle.burningblue.net, and I will soon set up a
web site at http://miracle.burningblue.net/tapetrade (maybe tonight,
but probably not till tomorrow).
-d
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The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough
d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:11:11 -0500
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5557
Message-ID: <20000724.111130.-19613.2.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
<I believe you have mis-quoted James here. I believe he said, "Let me
study
the language before you speak to me." He was basically implying that he
didn't understand Japanese.>
DAmn so Im not the only one that heard that wrong, thats the whole
background about my goofy ass signature I had someone corrected me, now
Ill keep this one for another 100 jams or so (kidding just looking for
the right one)
<I've tried to post this a couple times but it never seemed to go
through...
I heard/read a couple months back (maybe more) that JP was going to/or
did switch from Ibanez to
Ernieball guitars....>
]From what I understood Ibanez wasn't giving him enough $$, they wouldn't
sell a signature 7 string, and he wasn't happy with them anymore.
Musicman I belive is doing 2 signature guitars, a 6 and a 7 string. I
think the prototype has debuted for the 7 string, he was using a red
one in europe, if a remember correctly.
Kurt
"Hey I got a new Signature now"
me after reading ytsejam 5555
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