YTSEJAM Digest 5361
Today's Topics:
1) RE: The english major
by "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
2) re: Rude Line Cutting
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
3) Re: Expectorations of Bafu
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
4) Re: Ancient Relics
by "Chris Sparks" <sparky@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
5) Re: *Korg recharges the flamethrower*
by "gaz" <graham@renegade2K.com>
6) Quelle Flamage!
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
7) Re: Awww / Rosie
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
8) Re: English Major
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
9) Re: idiots in crowds and britney spears
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
10) Re: *Korg recharges the flamethrower*
by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
11) BSB... the war
by Kim Howatt <Kim_Howatt@kleinschmidt.com>
12) Re: Carmen Electra
by MTeiper@aol.com
13) You win. ;)
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
14) Guns
by "Martin Wilde" <martin_wilde@lineone.net>
15) Re: digests posts recycling saving
by eckie@asu.edu
16) Blueberry D'OH!
by eckie@asu.edu
17) Re: Guns
by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
18) Re: digests posts recycling saving
by "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
19) When Architecture Students Finish Projects, next on FOX
by eckie@asu.edu
20) Re: digests posts recycling saving
by Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
21) an old-school post (it could use some sealer) - NDTC
by MusicSnob@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:42:11 -0500
From: "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: The english major
Message-ID: <NDBBJOAJEBLELDIGIBGMIEBNEFAA.td4235@ship.edu>
> What the heck are you talking about?!?!?!?!? Was that
> supposed to be a
> joke?!?! I'm not sure where you're from but that was WAY out of
> line. Talk
> about living in the past. Excuse me if I missed something, but
> since when do
> people today refer to Germans as "Nazis." Think next time before you go
> around making generalizations about people.
> Sarah
ok, this argument is getting really really stupid now. this is the last i
will talk about this topic because i agree this list is not for this kind of
material.
for the record i was not refering to all germans as being nazis, as you
stretched my words into.
i was just kind of ticked off at the way he felt it necessary to get
offended over something that wasn't supposed to be offensive at all. i'm
done with this discussion now. if you still got issues email me privately.
-tim
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:53:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: Rude Line Cutting
Message-ID: <20000301215318.12521.qmail@web107.yahoomail.com>
Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Jenn wrote:
>> Ahhh!! That is SUCH a cop out! It's this
simple......if you want to
>> get a good place in line, then GET THERE
EARLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andrew replied:
> I didn't hear anybody complaining when we got
there, either -
> and if they did have a serious problem, I might have
considered going
> to the back of the line.
I think you hear people complaining now. You may want
to note this for future reference.
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:17:11 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Expectorations of Bafu
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000301221711.0178f960@pi-r-squared.com>
>paul
>NP Peter Gabriel: Ein Deutsches Album [Hans spielt mit Lotte/ Lotte spielt
>mit Joe] No use crying over spielt milk.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
ROFL! Adolf hat ein bon-fire und Rico spielt mit es! or something like that.
Is that real?
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:57:14 -0600
From: "Chris Sparks" <sparky@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Ancient Relics
Message-ID: <8DE8BB1679FE3D11DA8D00807CFDCB89@sparky.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Way behind in my readings..
>You've been around a long time if you remember Brian Cox still actively
>trading on the list...
I do, if memory serves me right (grey hairs are showing up), he was at Texas A&M... I was
from UT ('nuff said there). I unsub'd (all by myself without complaints to the list) when the
Kevin/Derek messages were too much for me. Resub'd recently and this is my first post.
Saw the boys in Austin for Awake and San Antonio for FII (my wife, who prefers country, even
really enjoyed that show), and we're thinking about hitting Dallas this month.
I've enjoyed all the show reviews so far.
skraps
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:00:05 +1100
From: "gaz" <graham@renegade2K.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: *Korg recharges the flamethrower*
Message-ID: <200003020001.TAA22997@sampa.simpleweb.com.br>
> Here's some flame-bait.
> I *seriously* think they should execute that 6 year old kid in
> Michigan and set an example to kids that this sort of shit is
> intolerable. Fuck peace and love. -- KorgX3 is sick of seeing kids
> kill each other in school. NP: Mr. Big - Wild World.mp3
I *seriously* think all American's are oxygen thieves........
Flame away
Oh I am thinking of starting up my own mailing list, where flaming
is welcomed, I guess I can sign Brian up :)
gaz
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:01:09 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Quelle Flamage!
Message-ID: <38BD9325.13AFFA92@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Korg wrote:
> Here's some flame-bait.
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE, Lake of Fire!
> I *seriously* think they should execute that 6 year old kid in Michigan and
> set an example to kids that this sort of shit is intolerable.
Or at least he should have to stay after school ;)
> Fuck peace and love.
+, ;)
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:23:58 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Awww / Rosie
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000301222358.01778794@pi-r-squared.com>
>heh, Brad, you'll dig this being a theatre major (i was at one time): I
>looked up 'explotation' in the dictionary and a third definition for it
>is:
>
>3. A program of publicity for a theaterical performance, popular song,
>or the like.
>
>;)
Whoo hoo! I think more modern would replace film with theater. My film rant
is a whole other thing, and runs along the same lines as the music one. THen
again these are both subjects that I care about passionately. ah well.
Theater NEVER gets any advertising around here, anymore... except at the
Theater Building at UoH ;)
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:27:06 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: English Major
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000301222706.0178eb0c@pi-r-squared.com>
At 09:53 AM 3/1/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
>He was using it as a metaphor, not to be taken offensively or anything.
>laterz dude :)
actually it was an analogy ;)
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:32:32 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: idiots in crowds and britney spears
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000301223232.01785efc@pi-r-squared.com>
>on a side note, last saturday i got up at 8 am and paid 40 bux for my
>britney spears ticket...i honestly cant see anything wrong with her or the
>backstreet boys and whoever else's music...the whole "i hate that
>type of music because its manufactured to the point where its not
>about the music anymore" cracks me up...if its about the music to you,
>then shouldnt you listen to the music before judging it because its being
>mass produced by the record company? the people that write those songs im
>sure know their shit, and because of it are capable of putting together
>songs that are damn catchy and just all around sound pleasant...but the
>way the music sounds isnt important, its about how how it was put
>together, right?
Actually, I don't like how the music sounds either ;) and imo it's a direct
result of the manufacturing (figuratively speaking. NOT THE FUCKING CD
Manufacturing, you dorks ;) )
Bah. who cares. I've had my rant, people can agree with me or not. Sometimes
I think it's much more fun if they don't ;)
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:16:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: *Korg recharges the flamethrower*
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0003011615420.29967-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
bwahahaha. Gaz, remember the days when we could flame each other and get
the ignorant to jump into it and have some fun with them? Sigh. All you
newbies these days are too jaded and worldly for us, man.
-Brian
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, gaz wrote:
>
> > Here's some flame-bait.
>
> > I *seriously* think they should execute that 6 year old kid in
> > Michigan and set an example to kids that this sort of shit is
> > intolerable. Fuck peace and love. -- KorgX3 is sick of seeing kids
> > kill each other in school. NP: Mr. Big - Wild World.mp3
>
> I *seriously* think all American's are oxygen thieves........
>
> Flame away
>
> Oh I am thinking of starting up my own mailing list, where flaming
> is welcomed, I guess I can sign Brian up :)
>
> gaz
>
>
>
>
> My Homepage
> The Instruments Of Random Progress
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam
>
> Reviews & Interviews
> http://www.renegade2K.com
>
> My Footwear
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam/livecd's.htm
>
> 'If you don't have a sense of humour or are too stupid
> to understand sarcasm don't complain to me, because I don't
> give a shit'
>
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:29:06 -0600
From: Kim Howatt <Kim_Howatt@kleinschmidt.com>
To: "'YTSEJAM'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: BSB... the war
Message-ID: <CF039279AB93D211B64400A0C9EBCA35916B75@exchange1.kleinschmidt.com>
<<<<<Palpatine said: All the same, they're spending their money on whatever
CD's they happen to hear on the radio. Because of this, there should be some
integrity in the music world, so that we're not bilking people out of their
money with
organized schemes such as BUILDING A BAND OUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO MUSICAL
EXPERIENCE, AND SEEMINGLY NO LOVE OF MUSIC AT ALL!! >>>>>
OK. I have to interject my thoughts here. First, I must say I TOTALLY
agree with Korgx3 on this topic.
A small intro from me, since I am fairly new. I have been a jammer since
August 1999 and a DT fan since Images and Words. We heard TTT at a bar in
Chicagoland during the break of a Journey/Kansas/Queensryche cover band we
were out to see, and I was hooked.
I am a female (31), who grew up listening to music on the radio. All of my
friends felt ooey gooey about Air Supply, Shawn Cassidy, etc. My brother
was predominantly into Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, etc., which was a bit
much for me at age 10.
My main music was Journey: Escape, Rush: Moving Pictures, Survivor:
Premonition and lots of Kansas. My favorite artist was always Billy Joel,
by far. I love his music. I do play piano and trumpet, but musically I am
not serious at all. Call me a musician or a hack, I don't care. I do those
things for pure fun. LISTENING to music or playing any sport is my "Heart &
Soul" (pop tune).
I believe I fall into the group you were discussing, Palpatine (from the
beginning of the quote above.) At least in my adolescent days I did. All
of the music mentioned in my previous paragraph was on the radio all of the
time.
The music business was the same back then as it is today. It's no
different. You are correct when you say looks are pushed, and it's NOT just
in music. It's everywhere (take guys/girls scoping out a possible mate.
For example: I'll admit it, I scoped guys with nice booties. No butt, no
chance. It's shallow, butt true, and I am woman enough to admit it. I
finally married a bass player 7 years ago, who fulfilled my wildest visions
and has a GREAT bootie.) I digress....
For you to say that these "people have no musical experience and no love of
music at all" is unfair. Have you ever heard them sing in an environment
where you can make that call? Probably not. If you told me you went to
school with one of the BSBs and that they failed music, and couldn't carry a
tune in a brown paper bag, then you may have some recourse to your
statement. Let people enjoy whatever it is they enjoy. Some people enjoy
ripping people off. That is why they are thieves. Corny, but you get the
point. My feeling is that there are innumerable types of music out there,
and innumerable types of people. Just because BSB et. al. is not your
choice nor mine for daily listening pleasure, it serves it's purpose to put
a smile on someone's face. As far as integrity in the music industry, good
luck. I see the manufactured tunes (take that statement as you will) of BSB
or the popularity of Latin pop as entertainment. People do ENJOY it. Same
as wrestling, which to you for some reason, is more up front? I don't think
you can hide manufactured music. I don't think that is the point. It still
comes out of the speakers as a song, and people totally dig it. Whatever.
Manufactured music still equals music, just as you stated fake wrestling
still equals wrestling, as far as entertainment value goes. It's a gold
mine for the industry, and it will never change.
Music happens to be my release. I've opened my eyes and ears since Dream
Theater became a common theme in our house. I used to be fairly closed
minded, but I never condemned an entire industry or other people for my
likes and dislikes. I still don't understand the draw to a lot of music
such as SKA, but it is MY taste and MY opinion and MY choice to avoid it.
It does not reflect at all what is "good" or "bad" or "manufactured" music
(or musicianship for that matter). My point being, that if pop radio music
(whether Ms. Spears or BSB or Marc Anthony Martin Estefan) does it for some
people, great. Open your eyes and realize people actually do like the
sounds from all these types of music. Today, a few of my favorite discs are
Pos: One Hour, Conception: Flow, Dali's Dilemma and Yes: The Ladder. ( and
obviously all DT discs, but that is assumed.) All of these are musically
great, but all are distinctly different. As another example, I enjoy some
Dixie Chicks and Celine Dion (both very radio popular), but if it were
because I thought they were hot, my husband should be worrying. I enjoy the
simpler music some days, depending on my mood, and yes, I think all of these
artists have talent. It happens to be talent in the form of music that is
pleasing to my ears. All of the death metal people on this list are
cringing right about now, I am certain. That's fine. I believe everyone
when they speak of Meshuggah and their talent, but I know I have heard it
and it doesn't do it for me. It's not my "thing". No one forces me to
listen to it or buy CD's. There is not some alien force out there making
people in Best Buy or on CDNOW purchase this manufactured music.
On a DT note, all of these arguments are why I think they kick so much ass.
They have a wider audience variety than any band I have ever seen. There
are younger fans, death metal fans, progressive fans, fans like myself that
stumbled onto it by accident, fans that are wonderful musician's, fans that
don't know how to play any instrument. It's awesome.
Korgx3 said it all when he said:<<<<<Music is music. If you refuse to
listen to a piece of music because it
wasn't written by the performer or because the performer is "manufactured,"
that's your loss. It was less than a year ago I felt the same way you do,
and I can't believe what an ignorant bastard I was. Regardless of whether
or not the manufacturer was singled out on Star Search or whatever, he/she
has talent. Maybe not talent up to your pretentious par, but talent
nonetheless.>>>>>
NP: Jonathan Cain: Body Language
Beeotch
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:28:55 EST
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Carmen Electra
Message-ID: <db.1cce248.25eef3a7@aol.com>
In a message dated 03/01/2000 8:02:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< Yeah, it was out in the early 90's and MTV used to play the one video
(shocking, I know). Prince "discovered" her and got her an album deal. And I
agree, pretty scary stuff indeed.
-Mike C.
>>
Yeah, the first time I ever heard of her was when they played the video of
hers on the Beavis and Butthead show. And, while she gyrated, bounced, and
slinked about the screen dressed scantidly, Butthead got loose with the best
one liner I ever heard on that show: "It's high noon on MY sundial!" 8-D
Good friggin' stuff....
Laterz... Matt T.
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:57:56 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: You win. ;)
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000301225756.017a5d40@pi-r-squared.com>
>For you to say that these "people have no musical experience and no love of
>music at all" is unfair. Have you ever heard them sing in an environment
>where you can make that call? Probably not. If you told me you went to
>school with one of the BSBs and that they failed music, and couldn't carry a
>tune in a brown paper bag, then you may have some recourse to your
>statement. Let people enjoy whatever it is they enjoy. Some people enjoy
>ripping people off. That is why they are thieves. Corny, but you get the
>point. My feeling is that there are innumerable types of music out there,
>and innumerable types of people. Just because BSB et. al. is not your
>choice nor mine for daily listening pleasure, it serves it's purpose to put
>a smile on someone's face. As far as integrity in the music industry, good
>luck. I see the manufactured tunes (take that statement as you will) of BSB
>or the popularity of Latin pop as entertainment. People do ENJOY it. Same
>as wrestling, which to you for some reason, is more up front? I don't think
>you can hide manufactured music. I don't think that is the point. It still
>comes out of the speakers as a song, and people totally dig it. Whatever.
>Manufactured music still equals music, just as you stated fake wrestling
>still equals wrestling, as far as entertainment value goes. It's a gold
>mine for the industry, and it will never change.
It's weird to see this stuff directed at me, the guy who's always arguing
with my friends about how you can't define or pigeon hole art. I think I
really just wanted an outlet to do some anti-corporate rant and took it.
After all I am the Ytsejam's resident, dirty hippy (or at least I've been
called that a thousand times on irc ;) ). I still don't think I'm saying
quite what you all think I'm saying but whatever. I concede. It's music. It
pisses me the hell off, but it IS music. Always key to remember with me: my
rage is always directed at the people who produce this stuff, not those who
listen to it. Anyway, the rant has ended. Until next time!
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:46:01 -0000
From: "Martin Wilde" <martin_wilde@lineone.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Guns
Message-ID: <000d01bf83cf$ecf34ca0$a90a8cd4@preinstalledco>
Korg wrote
>I *seriously* think they should execute that 6 year old kid in Michigan and
>set an example to kids that this sort of shit is intolerable. Fuck peace
>and love.
Yep that's flame bait....
Don't you really think it's time that America grew up and restricted gun
sales to the army and police? You're not living in a frontier state now,
guys. Why do you need to have the damn things? We don't need them in
Europe. Our civil liberties are not infringed by our being legally unable to
possess a weapon to shoot eachother with when we're tempted to.....
In love, brothers
Martin
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:55:51 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: digests posts recycling saving
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000301155011.20609A-100000@email1.asu.edu>
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Coldfire the Gallery Mistress diligently sat at her
computer in the office where the turtle danced like Travolta forcing her to
try not to laugh at the Dream Theater allusion that nobody else in the office
knew about because they weren't the priveleged elite who subscribe to the
ytsejam mailing list for Dream Theater fans and psychotic sociopathic haters
of the system (tm), a list without ads or Pokemon, with leather trim and 450
horses under the hood, and wrote this:
> Naaaaah......I met the Doc and I met you....and I barely survived with
> my life! ;) Actually there are 3 Jammers who post here who are
> guaranteed to have their posts archived in my Ytsejam Mailbox, Bafu,
> Dr. Mosh and Eckie. Posts from these 2 are always razor sharp in their
> tit
You're doing macintosh arithmetic, dear. 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals three!
(Chicks dig the raper wit!)
;)
And guys that go "wee-eey wee-eey".
~Eckie loves the English language
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:02:18 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Blueberry D'OH!
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000301155834.17347A-100000@general2.asu.edu>
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, in the middle of a snow storm at 2:30:67 Indonesian leap
year time, with a wooden stick tied with copper wire connected to a
schizophrenic pigeon whose feet are strapped to a keyboard, connected to the
thigh bone, connected to the...computer...connected to the....modemmmm, Art
Ellis wrote:
> So you are most likely consuming a decent amount of bakers arm hairs.
> Makes you think, don't it?
Mmmmmmm, arm haaaaairs....
~Eckie closes his eyes half way and salivates
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:05:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Guns
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0003011657410.4852-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
This is such a loaded and off-topic subject that I'm not going to get into
it, except to say one thing: it's quite sloppy brainwork to apply the
experience of one culture to another, when they have completely different
mores and situations. Most Euros think they're superior because of their
anti-gun legislation...well, the most effectively enforced firearms ban
ever was levied against Jews in Germany in the mid 1930s...suffice to say,
the Holocaust and WW2 didn't start here in the US...you may want to
examine your own history and values with a more critical eye.
And I notice you said that our army should still have guns...not
surprising since we always have to bail your Hitler-appeasing asses out in
every war. ;D As a US navyman in WW2 once toasted to a bunch of
Brits..."God save the queen! ... We've done it twice now, it's someone
else's turn!"
Speaking of Nazis. :P Sheesh. Okay, I'm not going to discuss this so don't
try and get me going. :)
-Brian
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Martin Wilde wrote:
> Don't you really think it's time that America grew up and restricted gun
> sales to the army and police? You're not living in a frontier state now,
> guys. Why do you need to have the damn things? We don't need them in
> Europe. Our civil liberties are not infringed by our being legally unable to
> possess a weapon to shoot eachother with when we're tempted to.....
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:02:58 -0500
From: "Matt J Lough" <lough@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: digests posts recycling saving
Message-ID: <004501bf83d2$4aa102a0$636a0d18@abdn1.md.home.com>
this post made me laugh so hard, I think I have to archive this one! funny
how people type before they thing, and that wastn meant at eckie, that was
meant for the guy who couldn't add! that's a laugher, no flaming intended.
peace.
----- Original Message -----
]From: <eckie@asu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: digests posts recycling saving
>
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Coldfire the Gallery Mistress diligently sat at her
> computer in the office where the turtle danced like Travolta forcing her
to
> try not to laugh at the Dream Theater allusion that nobody else in the
office
> knew about because they weren't the priveleged elite who subscribe to the
> ytsejam mailing list for Dream Theater fans and psychotic sociopathic
haters
> of the system (tm), a list without ads or Pokemon, with leather trim and
450
> horses under the hood, and wrote this:
>
> > Naaaaah......I met the Doc and I met you....and I barely survived with
> > my life! ;) Actually there are 3 Jammers who post here who are
> > guaranteed to have their posts archived in my Ytsejam Mailbox, Bafu,
> > Dr. Mosh and Eckie. Posts from these 2 are always razor sharp in their
> > tit
>
> You're doing macintosh arithmetic, dear. 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals three!
> (Chicks dig the raper wit!)
>
> ;)
>
> And guys that go "wee-eey wee-eey".
>
> ~Eckie loves the English language
>
>
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:08:41 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: When Architecture Students Finish Projects, next on FOX
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000301160238.17347B-100000@general2.asu.edu>
Lots of time and little motivation make Eckie an active poster...
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Wesley Foll exclamed with the fury of a thousand
Brazilian Dream Theater fans:
(in regards to the Pantera mp3 clips)
> ECKIE, EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT THESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uh, I already have 'em. That's why I posted about them :)
BUT THE REST OF YOU SHOULD CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!
Well, those of you who like that "heavy" music. It's just noise to me.
:)
~Eckie gets back to work on his sushi roll guitar
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:16:32 -0500
From: Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: digests posts recycling saving
Message-ID: <38BDA4D0.DFF845EB@bellatlantic.net>
Eckie is oh so smart and caught:
>
> You're doing macintosh arithmetic, dear. 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals three!
> (Chicks dig the raper wit!)
I have been duly "Spanked" and bow to thee Master. You are the last of
the 3 Funniest Posters I have yet to meet. Damn I wish we could have
stopped on the drive east!
Coldie....who loves little blonde humor mutants from the desert ;)
Kisses!
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:18:00 EST
From: MusicSnob@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: an old-school post (it could use some sealer) - NDTC
Message-ID: <de.1e22af5.25eeff28@aol.com>
Some limey bloke spewed forth with:
>How many people out there eat franchised hamburgers and pizzas?
Personally, I eat cooked hamburgers and pizzas. I am not sure that the
franchising process is a suitable replacement for the good old cooking one,
but hey, you Brits are supposed to be smart, so as soon as I find the
George Foreman Franchiser, I am all over it.
>And how many people out there realize that this stuff
>is shit?
Hmm, franchised shit? That has a certain ring to it. Any plans for
a shit-tacular franchise-a-thon in a town near me? I am all over it like
flies on, well, shit.
Class, please turn to page six where someone has written:
>If you're really old school, you'll remember that Bafu Vai's origins
>were from inside a broken down middle 19th century neo classical garage;
>a music critic cyborg designed in collaboration with Mike Portnoy and
>MIT robotics engineering school drop outs for the sole purpose of making
>the Ytsejam mailing list entertaining when D-Man's Hootenanny power
>wanes.
But, oh glassropper, has the D's power ever waned?? Are we not slaves to
power of The Limp Wristed One? As for Bafu, having seen him eat at
McDonald's,
which, according to those in the know, is a prime franchiser of shit, I would
have
to say that he is definitely human, although he CAN control his stereo system
via
steering wheel remote and drive at the same time, a skill on par with
ingesting excrement and concurrently smiling.
Next we turn to a certain reptilian Jaime:
>harrumphing at a couple of specific
>people::
AAAAAAAH. I have been harrumphed.
Then Coldie splooged out her oral orifice:
>Naaaaah......I met the Doc and I met you....and I barely survived with
>my life! ;) Actually there are 3 Jammers who post here who are
>guaranteed to have their posts archived in my Ytsejam Mailbox, Bafu,
>Dr. Mosh and Eckie. Posts from these 2 are always razor sharp in their
>wit. Glad to see all 3 of my favorite posters are back!
Your life? I bet your pizza barely survived Mosh's evil appetite. Always
good
to be a favorite, too. Thanks Carol. Carol? Carol??
Then Kez ranted:
>I long ago came to grips with this very fact, and have even learned to revel
>in my weirdness. Join me, won't you?
I have joined you in eating Chinese food (I sense a common food motif here.
Could it
be that 'jammers eat??)...revelling in your weirdness is a bit farther than
even I
am willing to go, what with G. Gordon Liddy on your payroll...
Penultimately, some dictionary-impaired dude blabbed:
>It's also ironic that no one from Black Sabbath
>died and he did, considering how much shit those guys did ya'd think they'd
>have died 3 times over by now.
Ironic? No. Surprising? Yes.
And last, but not...well, yeah, least:
>KorgX3 is sick of seeing kids kill each other in school.
Are you suggesting that you would rather they kill each other at, say, a
Dream Theater concert in Idaho? I hear those potatoes make good silencers.
NP: Conception - In Your Multitude
Kevin
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