YTSEJAM Digest 5362
Today's Topics:
1) Re: digests posts recycling saving
by Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
2) aaaaaah bananas from Germany!
by MusicSnob@aol.com
3) Dallas DT Gig Ticket Info
by "Jason Skewes" <jskewes@sightline.com>
4) Re: Carmen Electra
by <dthomas@best.com>
5) Damn you third world Europeans!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
6) shout out to...
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@mail.wm.edu>
7) WW III
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
8) The Ytsejam Treatise on Vocal Technique by Steve Z
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
9) What the?
by "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
10) Thought disorder, gun control...
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
11) club shows rock!!!!!!
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
12) Hevy Devy
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
13) re: Rude Line Cutting
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
14) Re: The Ytsejam Treatise on Vocal Technique by Steve Z
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
15) Bad Andrew! Wrong Steve!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
16) Backstreet slamming cakeholes
by Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca>
17) Re: *Korg recharges the flamethrower*
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) Re: I must be dreaming...I'm replying to a Bafu post!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
19) Guns, Americans, and other things hated in France
by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
20) Re: *Korg recharges the flamethrower*
by Cobie917@aol.com
21) Re: an old-school post (it could use some sealer) - NDTC
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
22) Re: Spock's Beard
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
23) Re: WW III
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
24) more on Giant & Dann Huff
by "Matthew McDaniel" <cfiatp@hotmail.com>
25) Re: Dr Who
by Fett2002@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:21:49 -0500
From: Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: digests posts recycling saving
Message-ID: <38BDA60D.ED93A3DC@bellatlantic.net>
Matt J Lough wrote:
>
> this post made me laugh so hard, I think I have to archive this one! funny
> how people type before they thing, and that wastn meant at eckie, that was
> meant for the guy who couldn't add! that's a laugher, no flaming intended.
> peace.
Guy? *Coldie looks down her shirt*....nope...definitely not a guy!
That's okay babe....my math skills are coming back to me now...see I'm a
recovering Californian ;)
Coldie who loves the Jam!
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:34:39 EST
From: MusicSnob@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: aaaaaah bananas from Germany!
Message-ID: <99.1e6da0a.25ef030f@aol.com>
Eckie broke out the Freudian banana and slipped in:
>You're doing macintosh arithmetic, dear. 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals three!
>(Chicks dig the raper wit!)
>;)
>And guys that go "wee-eey wee-eey".
>~Eckie loves the English language
But does Eckie really mean to label himself a raper?
/me sticks in the rapier
Kevin
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:38:22 -0600
From: "Jason Skewes" <jskewes@sightline.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Dallas DT Gig Ticket Info
Message-ID: <DLEPIKKIJHMJBIBHDCIGIEGECAAA.jskewes@sightline.com>
FYI -
According to Star Tickets - Dream Theater tickets for the March 10th show at
the Canyon Club in Dallas go on sale tomorrow afternoon (Thursday - March
2nd) at 5 PM.
You should be able to buy them over the web at: http://www.startickets.com
or at 1-888-597-7827.
Jason
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:38:59 -0800 (PST)
From: <dthomas@best.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Carmen Electra
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003011537230.11101-100000@fpage2.ba.best.com>
Haha, I don't think I've ever had the chance to hear the "talented" Carmen
Electra sing.
I have heard some of the Traci Lords CD, though. And it's about what you'd
expect it to sound like.
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:46:33 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Damn you third world Europeans!
Message-ID: <003101bf83d8$7569b620$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>Don't you really think it's time that America grew up and restricted gun
>sales to the army and police?
That's all well and good, but as Hayden said, (I agree again!!!! WTF?!?)
our countries are morally different. All of us barbaric Americans don't eat
red meat for nothing. There's nothing more wild than the idea of taking
your favorite armament out into the backwoods of hickland and burrow a few
rounds into the flesh of nearby wildlife and cut out its still-beating
heart, tasting its steaming, salty blood!!! What? You want me to use one
of those pussy arrows? Ha! I scoff at thee! Arrows can't pierce Kevlar
like a .50 caliber round from my Desert Falcon! Silly European!
Tremble ye Europeans as we Americans await the command of our Lord Satan to
raise arms against ye and dominate the world under a 2000 year reign in
darkness!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAFUUUUUU!!!!
-- KorgX3 should never listen to Slayer again. NP: Rush - Lock and Key.mp3------------------------------
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:09:56 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@mail.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: shout out to... Message-ID: <200003020005.TAA14079@email.wm.edu>
Josh Rasiel!!
(sorry folks, this is my last hope)
If you're reading this, could you please contact me? That ytsejam mailing list t-shirt you told me was in the mail in November never reached my home planet. Should I be really worried about the USPS??? Drop me a line please!!
And if anyone else has an email addy where I could reach him in a more *private* format, that would also be greatly appreciated. The address I got off his homepage doesn't work/exist/whatever - all my mail there got returned to me. :(
Btw, I still want that shirt...
thanks, and my apologies again, Alex
Message of the Day:
Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown. BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and bitch-slap the motherfucker upside the head. :)
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 01:13:18 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: WW III Message-ID: <v04220801b4e36101d515@[192.168.1.1]>
>And I notice you said that our army should still have guns...not >surprising since we always have to bail your Hitler-appeasing asses out in >every war.
Aaah... yes. Ok. Fine. Could we please end this thread RIGHT NOW? This is really, REALLY off topic, maybe even FUCKING off topic.
(Stupid Americans...)
No, *I* didn't say anything! Really! ;-))
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:26:07 -0500 From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The Ytsejam Treatise on Vocal Technique by Steve Z Message-ID: <005501bf83dd$ea872640$0200010a@steve>
> Actually those are both chest-voice examples. A better example of the > difference in sound between the two voices would be the first chorus of > "Lifting Shadows Off A Dream." James uses his chest-voice to sing "Lifting > shadows off a" then switches to his head-voice for "dream." Hear the
Actually, :) when James sings the word "dream" he is in his 'voce mista' (It., "mixed voice"). The voce mista has characteristics of both the head and chest registers because it is like singing with the chest voice in head-voice range.
Personally, I don't know how he does it. Live, however, he usually does that part in falsetto. He's human after all. :)
> difference? James RARELY uses his head-voice (which is sometimes called > "falsetto").
Actually, head voice and falsetto are different things. Head voice, or 'voce di testa' in the Italianate school, is what occurs when the vocal cords cease tensing to raise the pitch, and begin adducting to raise the pitch. (By comparison, chest voice, or 'voce di petto,' which includes the normal speech range, relies upon the tensing of the vocal folds to raise the pitch. This however, only works up to a certain point.)
Think of a guitar string; turning the tuning peg causes the string to rise in pitch. There comes a point where the string is pulled so tight that to tighten it further would seriously hinder the vibration of the string, and thus, the pitch. At this point you would, naturally, fret the string in order to raise the pitch without seriously affecting sustain. The process of the vocal folds adducting is akin to fretting the string.
What happens to the folds during adduction is this: during phonation in chest voice, the cords are open, loose, and thick. To raise the pitch, the singer uses his laryngeal muscles to tug at the ends of the vocal folds, causing them to tense and thin. During this process, there is a point at which the chest resonance diminishes in favor of head resonance. This point is called the 'primo passaggio.' The singer tenses the cords further, all the while losing chest resonance and gaining head resonance. Just before the point beyond which the cords cannot tense any more (which you'll know from the physical discomfort!), they will begin to close, but only at one end, like a zipper. This point is the 'secondo passaggio,' and pitches that lie from there up are in head voice. Head voice is generally louder, more resonant, and more air-efficient than chest voice.
I would say that James sings about 85-90% of what he sings in head voice.
How do you get your cords to adduct? *heavy sigh* I don't know. It's like vibrato, it's one of those perfectly natural occurrences that you have to practice practice practice to get right (although adduction will take a hell of a lot longer to grasp that vibrato!). If you can think of a quick and easy method of getting people to adduct their cords, let me know.
> Women supposedly do not have a falsetto.
Women will tell you that they don't, but I think they do. Most female singers of the soprano or mezzo-soprano variety are singing in what would be considered in the male voice as reinforced falsetto. (Falsetto with a lot of heady, nasal resonance.) Women have about the same number of registers as men, but their head voice is much smaller than men's. Practically negligible.
> With vocal training it is possible to make the transition between one's > chest-voice and head-voice practically seamless. Then again, one of my > opera-trained friends says that James has four different singing voices. I > think that's a load of crap.
Actually, I think James has AT LEAST 4 voices that he uses, but they tend to fall into the same registers as anyone else's voice.
I think there are 6 registers to the human voice:
*Vocal fry: the low, scrape-y sound that James uses to begin words on the first verse of "Voices" Chest voice: "Friday evening/The blood still on my hands..." Mixed voice: Victoria's voice in "Strange Deja Vu" Head voice: just about everything, in particular "Condescending/Not intending to end..." from IF Falsetto: the "crying" sounds at the end of "Through Her Eyes"
The remaining register is called Whistle Tones, and it is the sound of air actually whistling through an open larynx. Not many people, especially men, can control it, much less do it. Think Mariah Carey on her early albums.
*Vocal fry, while not harmful to the voice unless forced or overdone, is practically unusable (except for little things like this).
James also adds the rasp (different from vocal fry) to his head, mixed or chest voices to make that many more colors on his palette. For an idea of the raspy mixed voice, see DT on this tour and listen when James sings "...we'll lay DOWN today..." in One Last Time.
> Lots of people can say "I like James' voice" or "I don't like James' voice," > but they rarely talk about the subject with the depth or passion or insanity > of a ravenous bunch of guitar players comparing Morse's legato technique with > Petrucci's. Perhaps there is less competition among vocalists, so they don't > feel the need to beat the techniques to death like us Guitarists.
Hehehe, I could go on for days.
BTW, if I happened to shoot down anyone's perception of what singing is, don't be disheartened; far better singers than I have misunderstood these concepts.
> >Yeah, but wouldn't that apply only to people consume fast food/junk food 3 > >meals a day, 7 days a week? > > > >Sure, many of us eat fast food. But we NEED to eat (as opposed to we don't > >need to listen to music). > > LOL. You just defeated your own argument, Steve.
Um, how? We don't have any physiological need to listen to music.
(or were you being facetious?)
> We are young, but getting old before our time > > -Joe Jackson
Yes! Joe Jackson rules! What is he up to lately?
Steve Z
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:30:21 -0800 From: "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: What the? Message-ID: <019001bf83de$7e78af40$305ad9cf@gorilla.it.earthlink.net>
Eckie reposted:
> Dr. Mosh and Eckie. Posts from these 2 are always razor sharp in their > tit
Hmmm. A bit of a freudian slip in your cut and paste there? Or is there more going on here than the rest of us really want to know? :-)
The whole thing sounds really painful to me.
Paul
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:36:50 -0500 From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Thought disorder, gun control... Message-ID: <005801bf83df$6a61c040$0200010a@steve>
> Don't you really think it's time that America grew up and restricted gun > sales to the army and police?
It would certainly slow accidental hangun deaths; everyone knows that cops and military men prefer to beat their wives and children with their bare hands.
Now THAT'S flame bait. :P
Steve Z
(this post brought to you by the letters JUST KIDDING)
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:32:23 -0500 From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: club shows rock!!!!!! Message-ID: <38BDC4A6.FA38BE37@seacoast.com>
>>shows because it gives you a chance to move around and check the band out >from different places - floor, balcony, etc. You're not tied to a seat
>which is good, especially if you got crappy seats. You meet people (ie, >other Jammers) much more easily at a GA show. So my advice to all the >>>whiners is to just get over it - welcome to the rock'n'roll club scene.. If >you don't like it: 1) go to the back 2) don't go at all (no one likes the >guy giving them the evil eye through the show because they're having a good >>time - so good riddance), 3) get used to the club scene - it ain't changing >no matter how much you bitch... Obviously I'm not talking about tolerating >behavior that could really cause some damage (moshing, crowd surfing, all >that crap), but people just need to be more tolerant. Most folks only get >to see DT once every couple of years (except for the poor, neglected Aussies >who definitely need some attention), so cut 'em some damned slack when >they're getting into the show. Not everyone wants to stand still at a show l>ike they've got a huge stick up their ass - that's what your friggin' l>iving room is for...
>Sheesh...
>Atlanta - 12 hours and counting! woohoo! >Orlando - 60 hours and counting! woohoo x 2!
Adam 3.14 hits it right on the head, I love club shows, I'm flying down for the Orlando and Pompano shows from NH. I will be rockin away right up front in Orlando, any jammers wanna smoke some killer come say hi. the Pompano show has assigned seats, I have 10th row, and hopefully people dont sit on there asses like I've witnessed at previous seating shows(I know I won't be). Keep playing the clubs. Fuck the whiners!! Bob
gotta go clean my 9mm :))))))
Adam Pye
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:42:15 -0800 (PST) From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Hevy Devy Message-ID: <20000302014215.5333.qmail@web2003.mail.yahoo.com>
> OK, here's what you need to know about Devin: Get his > "Infinity" CD and > the Ocean Machine - "Biomech" CD. Listen and be amazed at > his talent. Some > of the most original sounding music that I've heard in > years. >
I could not agree more. Devins music is amazing. Everything just sounds HUGE. If you like heavier music you could also try out his Strapping Young Lad cd's... Beware though this is some sick stuff.
John P
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:02:23 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: re: Rude Line Cutting Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10003012100130.12361-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Brian Hansen wrote:
> >> Ahhh!! That is SUCH a cop out! It's this simple......if you want > >> to get a good place in line, then GET THERE EARLY!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Andrew replied: > > > I didn't hear anybody complaining when we got there, either - and if > > they did have a serious problem, I might have considered going to the > > back of the line. > > I think you hear people complaining now. You may want > to note this for future reference.
I actually didn't realize it would be such a problem - Next time, I will make sure to get there early myself. Like I said, if anybody had said anything to me while I was there, I would have seriously considered moving. As it was, people told me that they were cool with it, but that could also be because they were also in the front of the line. :)
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "Prayer has no place in school, just like facts have no place in religion." - Superintendant Chalmers from "The Simpsons" -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:38:04 -0600 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: The Ytsejam Treatise on Vocal Technique by Steve Z Message-ID: <B4E3302C.31B9%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
Writing books, or something.
-Brian
>> We are young, but getting old before our time >> >> -Joe Jackson > > Yes! Joe Jackson rules! What is he up to lately? > > Steve Z > >
--
They'll take you to Cloughprior and shove you in the ground, but you stick your head back out and shout, "We'll have another round"
-Shane MacGowan
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:43:38 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bad Andrew! Wrong Steve! Message-ID: <003301bf83f1$281401a0$470d84d0@default>
> moving. As it was, people told me that they were cool with it, but that > could also be because they were also in the front of the line. :)
Well, that's a common answer when you ask someone, "Do you mind if I cut in behind you?" :)
> > LOL. You just defeated your own argument, Steve. > > Um, how? We don't have any physiological need to listen to music.
Actually, that was early this morning when I typed that. I don't even remember how I came to that conclusion. All I remember is that you were >wrong!< Nyah. Nyah. You were wrong! hahahahahah. You silly fool! *does a handstand*
> (or were you being facetious?)
Not at all I was. Always serious I am. -- (KorgX)^6/(KorgX)^2 = Yo momma. NP: Echolyn - As the World
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:42:11 -0700 (MST) From: Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Backstreet slamming cakeholes Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.10003011845300.122982-100000@acs6.acs.ucalgary.ca>
Korgy, you are way, way off the mark equating musical snobbery to racism. You don't see Aqua fans offing Marilyn Manson fans in the streets of our cities. You don't hear about Mozart-loving segments of the population crying over 200 years of oppression at the hands of staunch Haydn suppourters. Similarly, Oak Ridge Boys fans will not protest or riot at a Garth Brooks show on account of the fact that their band is "pure" or whatever. While musical snobbery is indeed prevalent, I, Mr. musical snob, often find *my* musical tates to be the subject of ridicule from the Britney Spears set, not the other way around, as you would imply. It seems it's uncool to listen to anything that requires thought, or the slightest bit of attention; i.e. if it's longer than three minutes, doesn't have the generic ngh-chicka-ngh-chicka beat, or have the words "baby" or "love" in the lyrics, it sucks. The shitty thing is that art as a whole has become a disposable commodity to most people now, though they don't realize it. Uniqueness is no longer lauded unless it translates into big bucks. Dali's "Arrival of Christopher Columbus.." is no longer a stirring, one-of-a-kind piece of art, it's a print run off by the millions that anyone can buy at Wal Mart for $19.95. Don't you find it the least bit sickening that world-class orchestras play to half packed houses or that OFB resides at #800 on the record charts because the "shitheads" (pronounced shi-TEEDs) continue to allow corporate America (or Canada or UK...) to make all of their decisions for them? People don't like the BSB's beacause they think they're cool, they like them because *somebody else told them* that they think it's cool.
Greg-o
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:43:43 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: *Korg recharges the flamethrower* Message-ID: <200003020243.SAA12946@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Korg Ecksthrey" thus begged: > >Here's some flame-bait. > >I *seriously* think they should execute that 6 year old kid in Michigan and >set an example to kids that this sort of shit is intolerable. Fuck peace >and love.
No No No, your breaking the rules of the JAM. NO MORE DISCUSSION.
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:45:29 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: I must be dreaming...I'm replying to a Bafu post! Message-ID: <200003020245.SAA12988@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Awake ." thus begged: > > >>Petrucci's. Perhaps there is less competition >>among vocalists, so they don't feel the need >>to beat the techniques to death like us Guitarists. > >Oohhhhhhhhhh...Potential firestorm brewing. Agreed 100% on this one. > >>(Guitarists, myself included, can talk >>about guitar technique FOREVER. We > >But not until we're finshed drooling over the latest >Ibanez catalogues, though!
Pleaze... Ibeenhads are mass produced garbage... Petrucci finally realized it, so should everyone else.
> >>the keyboard players? Ye gadz don't >>get me started, Kevin vs. Derek vs. Jordan... > >Well, I think they ALL suck....;)
I bet they think the same of you, well, they probably don't think of you at all...
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:51:06 -0500 From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Guns, Americans, and other things hated in France Message-ID: <00a301bf83f2$28513c40$47ab889e@plymouth.edu>
]From: gaz <graham@renegade2K.com>
> I *seriously* think all American's are oxygen thieves........
Possibly, but at least we're just using the oxygen we've managed to pollute the shit out of anyway.. Besides, we're making MORE oxygen... didn't you know that smog is made of ozone, which a molecule composed of three oxygen atoms? The way I see it, we're just making more "oxygen efficient" air... :)
Martin Wilde wrote:
>Don't you really think it's time that America grew up and restricted gun >sales to the army and police? You're not living in a frontier state now,
Agreed, but there are plenty of crooked cops and military guys in this country who would just LOVE to turn around and sell those guns out of the backs of vans anyway. Restriction is not a solution... after all, sale of alcohol is technically restricted to people 21 and over, and we all know how well THAT law is upheld...
Josh Calkin: URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu ICQ: 22473371, AOL IM: Mortua, IRC: Mortua
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:01:51 EST From: Cobie917@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: *Korg recharges the flamethrower* Message-ID: <c1.14e0278.25ef339f@aol.com>
Well, I live in Flint, MI and am very close to Beecher, and I have to agree with you man. But I must ask one question. Where in the fuck were this kids parents!?! He stole a damn gun in december and no one knew!?! How do you do that. And it's not like a six year olds pockets are big enough to conceal an entire gun in so how did the teachers not see it? I guess maybe the fact that his dad is an ex-con may have something to do with it. Trajedy strikes once again, and now it's even closer to home. So does that mean now more people are going to try to protect themselves and we'll have more gun-toting dipshits around? I guess we'll see folks. 'Till a later day.....
~Mike
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:11:56 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: an old-school post (it could use some sealer) - NDTC Message-ID: <200003020311.TAA13457@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., MusicSnob@aol.com thus begged: > >Then Coldie splooged out her oral orifice: >>Naaaaah......I met the Doc and I met you....and I barely survived with >>my life! ;) Actually there are 3 Jammers who post here who are >>guaranteed to have their posts archived in my Ytsejam Mailbox, Bafu, >>Dr. Mosh and Eckie. Posts from these 2 are always razor sharp in their >>wit. Glad to see all 3 of my favorite posters are back! > >Your life? I bet your pizza barely survived Mosh's evil appetite. Always >good >to be a favorite, too. Thanks Carol. Carol? Carol??
Damn you, next time I will consume you and your pizza, I will leave narely a morsel for the rats to pick at. Dare to limit my pizza consumption will you...
>NP: Conception - In Your Multitude >
At least our musical tastes almost are parallel.
>Kevin
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:19:06 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Spock's Beard Message-ID: <38BDDDAA.BD951E76@home.com>
Wow Lisa Marie, thanks for the info on the new SB disc! It's cool that we can expect another disc so shortly after the pretty kickass Day For Night!
- Joe D.
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:25:59 -0600 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: WW III Message-ID: <B4E33B67.31C2%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
on 3/1/00 6:27 PM, Steffen Barabasch's head absorbed one too many Yngwie scalar squeals and exploded, thus spewing forth:
> Aaah... yes. Ok. Fine. Could we please end this thread RIGHT NOW? > This is really, REALLY off topic, maybe even FUCKING off topic. > > (Stupid Americans...)
Man, some of you germans are touchy...you can toss around Andrew Jackson's name as much as you want (one of the American Presidents responsible for relocation and deaths of countless native americans) and it's no skin off my ass cause I know it had nothing to do with me. :)
-Brian
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:33:51 EST From: "Matthew McDaniel" <cfiatp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: more on Giant & Dann Huff Message-ID: <20000302043351.46223.qmail@hotmail.com>
I know the Giant thread is dead and gone, but I just read my backlog of about 40 jams. So, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents and a additional fact about Giant that no one else seemed to mention.
I agree with all the Giant fans out there......they were very good and I still listen to both the albums.
Apparently no one out there knows about the pre-Giant history of the Huff brothers (guitaist & drummer of Giant). No, they weren't session musicians or studio players, they were in a christian rock band......called, White Heart. That was in the late 80's and they played a mellowish rock style. Not really my taste, but they weren't bad. They left White Heart to start Giant which lead to producing. Interestingly, White Heart continued to make christian rock albums well into the 90's with a rotational cast of musicians.
~just another Matt
Song lyric of the week: In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit we're dying
"Lines In The Sand" by Dream Theater
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:33:03 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Dr Who Message-ID: <f.196fc93.25ef48ff@aol.com>
Paul: << And when I first saw the subject, I was expecting mention of K-9 at the least. >>
Or daleks! -Mike C.
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