YTSEJAM Digest 5370
Today's Topics:
1) Joe, Trevor, Me, Portnoy, Eddie
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
2) NRA propoganda
by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
3) gun'S and kid'S
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
4) Re: guns (sorry)
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
5) Re: What is it with f*#$in' guns?
by Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
6) Re: Re: Public Hangings / Parenting?
by Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
7) Re: law suit
by Klabrie@aol.com
8) Re: The venue in Baltimore
by "Jenn" <jwillie@erols.com>
9) Re: Nationalist snobbery
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5367
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
11) Stratovarius question (no gun content)
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
12) Xmas CD arrived in CT/? for those who have it/&? for K2500/2600
by ShadowBor@aol.com
13) Guns; America; etc.
by Matt Birskovich <mattb@primenet.com>
14) Re: Politically Corrected...
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
15) Re: Guns-lets put this to rest alerady!
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
16) James LaBrie is a doped up pussyass faggot!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
17) Have a twinkie, Charlie Brown!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
18) Re: society murders
by Matej <izolit@siol.net>
19) Outrageous claim about MP interview?
by Argyle909@aol.com
20) blind leading the blind
by "gaz" <graham@renegade2K.com>
21) Tony Levin the Movie star!
by "MattyMo" <mattymo@mattymo.com>
22) tolerance taken seriously
by "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu>
23) Re: Outrageous claim about MP interview?
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
24) When dream and stupidity unite
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
25) oops
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
26) Re: Those damn europeans!!!
by "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de>
27) This list annoys me already quite some time !
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:32:58 -0500
From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Joe, Trevor, Me, Portnoy, Eddie
Message-ID: <001d01bf84c9$8e320940$0200010a@steve>
> He did write an autobiography,
> A Cure for Gravity: A Musical Pilgrimage,
Cool. I wish I knew how to read.
> which I haven't read, but is supposedly
> pretty good. He also recently released
> an instrumental cd called Symphony No. 1.
Wow, this one has been in the works for years.
> I really like it, but I'm a huge JJ fan
> so I could be a little biased.
Nothing wrong with that. Out of all his stuff, I think I like Night Music
and Heaven and Hell the best, with Blaze of Glory close behind. Can't wait
to hear the symphony.
> Trevor has 16 JJ cds.
I don't have all of them on CD. Three or four I have only on vinyl. :)
> Damnit, nothing like a bigot not getting his
> facts straight to screw up a perfectly good ranting ("you must chop down
> the most personally hated cultural system with.........A RANTING!") Or
> perhaps just listen to Zebrowski adducting the anal folds as his
> sphinctre flutters by :)
OW, MY ASS!!!!!!!! :P
> Portnoy was trying to play "Eruption" from Van Halen as he has done at
> several shows in the past. He's actually played it perfectly in the
past..
Wow. If that weren't originally by Eddie Van Halen, it would be impressive.
Steve Z
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:36:39 +1100
From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: NRA propoganda
Message-ID: <38BF4F66.151F6554@alphalink.com.au>
>They were interviewing Australians who where pissed off because their
>guns had been taken away and now they had to barricade themsleves in
>their houses with super security systems because of a rising crime rate.
>Also they were interviewing South Africans who where trying to get the
>right bear arms, because a number of towns and villages where attacked
>and the citizens were defenceless because the attackers all had guns and
>no one or very few, living there did.
> Just thought I would share. BTW, any idea how true this is? Or is it
> just propaganda drummed up by the NRA to scare people into joining up?
Im an immigrant from South Africa in Australia so I can tell you that the NRA
are full of shit.
In Australia granted there are probably a handful of loonys barricading themselves into
houses
because of crime, but you would get them anywhere. There are maybe some suburbs
which have high crime levels where a gun may be of some use, but you can get a nice security
system for the same price. Again, this is a very small part of Australia. By and large the
only
people who want guns here are hunters, and they can generally get them.
South Africa is an entirely different matter. Nearly everyone there living in inner suburbs
now has very high tech security (like if the alarm sounds, security men will come round and
shoot
the offender). Most people therefore carry some sort of defence, such as mace. So yes it
is true that a large number of ordinary people own guns, but South Africa is a very screwed
up country to put it frankly. It would be impossible for them to put in place gun control in
the same way that America is capable of. Sorry if there is any South Africans on the list (is
there?)
who feel different. Im no expert but this is just the impression i get talking to relatives
there.
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:23:30 -0500
From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: gun'S and kid'S
Message-ID: <001601bf84c8$3be8c760$0200010a@steve>
> I Love shooting, hunting etc, I live in Australia and the gun laws here =
> are so tuff I think I will have to give up the sport. So what is it with =
> fuckin' gun in the US. Why would a 6 year old boy have a fuckin' gun, can
=
> someone tell me that. My guns are so heavily locked because of police =
> reg's. I think I'll keep play music fuck the gun's.
>
> GUN'S SHOULD BE LOCKED AWAY FROM ALL KID'S. END OF STORY.
You like shooting, huh? well, did you shoot off one of your fingers? Nice
typing. Or is it just bad spelling?
Steve Z
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:35:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: guns (sorry)
Message-ID: <20000303053501.11957.qmail@web503.mail.yahoo.com>
> Unlikely. Surrounded by people he would have found
> it very very difficult.
> What about the two kids in Columbine or whatever?
> Without automatic weapons the death count would have
> been significantly lower.
Okay, did no one tell you that they had pipe bombs?
B/c they did! Lots of 'em! Those can probably take
out more with a single pop than a gun can. I'd much
rather take my chances with a bullet as opposed to a
pipe bomb (which any dickhead can make... even Australia).
=====
*Trent
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:25:38 -0800
From: Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: What is it with f*#$in' guns?
Message-ID: <38BF68F2.F39FA165@home.com>
> GUN'S SHOULD BE LOCKED AWAY FROM ALL KID'S. END OF STORY.
How about: Kids should be locked away from all guns!!! LOL!
Personally... I think that kids do an adult crime should do adult time. LIFE IN PRISON or
DEATH!!! Kids have too many rights. The government says WE should disipline OUR children,
BUT we can't do shit! If a parent disiplines his or her child, he/she (the child) will say
it's child abuse and the parent(s) will be arrested. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT???!?!?!!?
This country blows with it's laws!
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:34:29 -0800
From: Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Re: Public Hangings / Parenting?
Message-ID: <38BF6B05.836A0D97@home.com>
NuGgeTMaN said...
<< I have been saying this for YEARS!!! People should have a damn breeding
permit...idiots should NOT be allowed to breed period! I also say all white
trash should be shipped off to some third world island so they can kill
eachother off over a goddamn truck...but maybe that's just a little too
extreme. >>
I agree completely!!! Idiots should NOT be allowed to breed! BUT... I think that all white
trash should be sent to the front in combat. If they die, who would care (they would of
killed each other over a dog or a pick up truck) AND if they lived... good shootin'.
Shit... 2 post in one YtseJam. What's wrong?
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:08:27 EST
From: Klabrie@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: law suit
Message-ID: <c8.1f8f1ed.25f0b0db@aol.com>
as of 03-02-00 at 10:04am i am officially notifying you after numerous
attempts to stop sending me e-mail. i have not subscribed to your
publication, i have no idea who you are, or what you do. you may be held
financially accountable for every email you send after this notification
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:15:01 -0500
From: "Jenn" <jwillie@erols.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: The venue in Baltimore
Message-ID: <000701bf84d7$cfa511c0$fdf2accf@w8f3x>
> From: "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>
> "Make sure you show up early for LC's show @ The Recher Theatre on
> Mar 10th. The capacity for the club has been reduced temporarily.
> It's about half of what it used to be so don't take any chances
> ....show up early!!"
> I'm guessing they're doing some renovations or something... you think
that's
> why they moved the DT show?
No, actually it's because the week before DT was scheduled to play, The
Recher Theater completely overbooked a show and the fire marshall came and
made everyone leave. Soooo, The Recher Theater is being penalized with a
nice fine and by having their legal capacity reduced temporarily.
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:41:00 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Nationalist snobbery
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000303064100.017895d8@pi-r-squared.com>
>
>Did you vote? Less than half of americans vote. They (we) don't have the
>right to criticize. As for change, HA. I have heard alot of people say
>they want to change something, but take no measures to initiate change.
>
Actually, I just turned 20 and am voting socialist in the Presidential
election. How's THAT for some flame bait! Bring it on baby!
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:45:11 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5367
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000303064511.01785b4c@pi-r-squared.com>
>I agree totally. Although I think the lack of schools not giving a complete
>education is not merely limited to foreign cultures. Has anybody been
>involved in a music program lately in a public middle or high school in
>America? When I was a freshmen in highschool, there were 8 active music
>classes. When I graduated, there was only 3 left (chorus I, music
>appreciation and chorus II). The state of the current public education
>system is a god damned tragedy. Apprently, the local governments and state
>governments that do the budgets for school programs apparently think that
>only math, english and science are necessary to create a well rounded well
>functioning member of society. Until something changes, we're going to
>create a society full of robots who don't comprehend artistic expression, who
>don't know anything about other cultures and societies around the world.
The hell is wrong with you. Don't you know that Artists are just radical
pinko freaks anyway? The last thing this society needs is more of them. heh.
I think book burning would just complete this country's long transition into
fascism ;)
No, I'm not completely serious. Or am I? *bambambam*
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:30:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Stratovarius question (no gun content)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10003030028270.6609-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
I have a question about Stratovarius "The Chosen Ones." I was searching
some import places and one claimed to have a 2CD version. I haven't heard
about it, so I was wondering if this is a mistake or what. Does anyone
know? You can reply to me personally if you know. Thanks!
Robert Taylor
rctaylor@uiuc.edu
http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rctaylor
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:34:20 EST
From: ShadowBor@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Xmas CD arrived in CT/? for those who have it/&? for K2500/2600
Message-ID: <40.1847dc8.25f0b6ec@aol.com>
Hey how's it goin'? Just thought I'd let fellow CT people know that I
live in Monroe CT and got my CD yesterday, so it shouldn't be long before you
all get yours if you haven't already. And it is indeed worth the wait.
For those of you who have the CD, does this happen to you: The CD plays
fine in any CD player, and on my computer, but when I go into My Computer
(it's a PC) and double click the CD drive to view the files, it says either
'a device attached to the system is not functioning properly' (a new one to
me) or 'device is not ready'. When I press retry it doesn't change. If I
try to open the files using another program like Real Player, it does the
same thing. I noticed that when I burned a listening copy, the CD burning
software wouldn't let me do it Disc At Once because it says it's a multi
session CD. I know what a multi session CD is - but could that be the cause
of the problem?
Finally, a question for people with a Kurzweil K2500 or K2600. I've been
a happy owner of a Korg Trinity ProX for three and a half years now, and am
still happy with it except for one big thing - that it cuts out for a split
second when changing patches. This would make it impossible to use the way
Jordan uses his keyboard, changing patches left and right on the fly. This
is making me eye the K2500/2600 racks. My question is, how easy are they to
use? How's the interface? Sounds I'm not worried about - I've played it a
little in the store and it sounds fine, and I'm sure I can program it to
sound how I want. What I'd be worried about is how hard it is to do so. The
Trinity is pretty user friendly (for the most part). I mean, I'm not
dropping cash any time soon at all, but I am curious about this instrument
for down the road when I have the $$. If anyone could tell me briefly what
they love about it, and more importantly what they hate about it, that'd be
great. Thanks.
Rock On everyone
Rob
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:36:11 +0000 (GMT)
From: Matt Birskovich <mattb@primenet.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Guns; America; etc.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.1000303063244.4597A-100000@usr07.primenet.com>
I understand that the reason you guys are all fighting about this comes
down to one thing: you all have much too small penises, and for you ladies
wrapped up in the debate, the strap-on just isn't working out the way it
ought. I, on the other hand, enjoy the fact that I don't need any sign of
masculinity, be it guns, fighting, etc, because I am confident in the
heft, girth and length of my sturdy penis. Just because you all can't
feel the same does not mean you can't rise above it, though. Drink a
beer, smoke a joint, and masturbate for all you're worth. Take out all
that negative energy on your too small or non-existent peter. And fucking
chill out for Christ's sake. Be well.
Matt
"I'm so blind." (Korn)
Notice
the
new
email
address.
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:58:44 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Politically Corrected...
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000303065844.017a2194@pi-r-squared.com>
>Wow, a few days after Al The Progtologist claims that
>we're the enlightened ones, we see the above post.
>Nice going jerk. Got any other kind words you wish to
>share?
I believe, Trent, that that was an attempt at HUMOR!!! IRONY! SARCASM!!!
geez, why is everybody so laughter impaired lately?
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 01:04:51 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Guns-lets put this to rest alerady!
Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000303070451.017bdd78@pi-r-squared.com>
At 05:59 PM 3/2/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
>> For a wonderful perspective on the guns/Flint shooting issue
>> read Michael Moore's open letter to "Z" Magazine. The URL is:
>>www.lbbs.org/CrisesCurEvts/mooreflint.htm
>
>It's not anyone's fault but their own that they choose to live in (and be
>proud of!) a self-proclaimed slum-town where crime runs rampant. I've
>honestly started to feel alot less sorry for that little girl's family now
>that I've read they're getting Jack Kevorkian's lawyer to help them sue the
>school.
Ever consider the possibility that maybe they'd like to HELP their town? I
mean sure, there's a case for abandonment, but Mike Moore is stubborn. He'd
rather fight than leave. I guess you can't see the nobility in that.
Palpatine
www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him
for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the
opportunity."
-Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:26:33 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: James LaBrie is a doped up pussyass faggot!
Message-ID: <003e01bf84e1$d3dc2030$500d84d0@default>
Klabrie@aol.com came out of the ytse-closet by whining:
> as of 03-02-00 at 10:04am i am officially notifying you after numerous
> attempts to stop sending me e-mail.
Fuck you, James. If you'd fucking take the bong out of your mouth long
enough to ask Mike how to unsub you wouldn't have to bitch at us now would
you?!? :P
-- KorgX3 says, "Yeah, and you're a shitty singer, to boot!" P.S. Note the smiley. --> :)------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:36:06 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Have a twinkie, Charlie Brown! Message-ID: <000f01bf84e3$25a77f80$500d84d0@default>
All I wanted you to do was eat my twinkie! Is that so wrong? I went clear out of my way to get you guys a snack and it was totally rejected. I hate you! My hopes and dreams have been shattered! Ahh... Room's spinning... eeeesh... -- KorgX3 paints "EAT THIS!" with Twinkie creme on the tour bus.
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:06:38 +0100 From: Matej <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: society murders Message-ID: <38BEBBBD.A90BC66D@siol.net>
Well, on this we agree completely and it's cool to see someone seeing the big picture here. People are arogant animals.
Matej, pro life!
Korg elaborated on the topic: >> Explain that to all of the animals that are put to death every year simply because they attacked a human? You have to remember, people are merely animals, too. Yet, it's OK for us to kill everything else, just not each other. Ah, yes, I forgot. We are "God's chosen" now, aren't we? <<
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:47:56 EST From: Argyle909@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Outrageous claim about MP interview? Message-ID: <19.197315e.25f081dc@aol.com>
Not to start a complete all-out feud or anything here, but Mike Portnoy came up in a discussion I was having today with a friend of mine who works at a music store. When I asked about whether or not they carry the instructional videos, he responded "I don't like Mike Portnoy anyways." I asked why, and he told me that in an interview, he said something negative about Neil Peart not knowing anything about drumming. I refuse to believe this, can someone shed some light on this?
Louis
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:54:10 +1100 From: "gaz" <graham@renegade2K.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: blind leading the blind Message-ID: <200003030955.EAA08009@sampa.simpleweb.com.br>
> I understand that the reason you guys are all fighting about this > comes down to one thing: you all have much too small penises, and for > you ladies wrapped up in the debate, the strap-on just isn't working > out the way it ought. I, on the other hand, enjoy the fact that I > don't need any sign of masculinity, be it guns, fighting, etc, because > I am confident in the heft, girth and length of my sturdy penis. Just > because you all can't feel the same does not mean you can't rise above > it, though. Drink a beer, smoke a joint, and masturbate for all > you're worth. Take out all that negative energy on your too small or > non-existent peter. And fucking chill out for Christ's sake. Be > well. Matt
Thanks for making such a worthwhile contribution to this thread. If a 6 year old kid taking another child's life isn't worthy of debate I don't know what is ?
> "I'm so blind." (Korn)
Yep you'll be going blind from pulling your crank too much and sticking it into tight brown holes of men of ill repute......
Notice how ppl who bitch about threads never have one of their own to talk about ?
Here's one, Korn suck :)
gaz
My Homepage The Instruments Of Random Progress http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam
Reviews & Interviews http://www.renegade2K.com
My Footwear http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam/livecd's.htm
'If you don't have a sense of humour or are too stupid to understand sarcasm don't complain to me, because I don't give a shit'
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:53:52 -0600 From: "MattyMo" <mattymo@mattymo.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Tony Levin the Movie star! Message-ID: <006301bf84e5$9fa2ff60$0100a8c0@mattymo>
I was watching Encore (on cable)... and this movie from 1980 came on, and right in the beginning I caught the credits for "The Band" And none other than Tony Levin was in the band... lookin' the same! He even has some lines too! The movie starred and was written by Paul Simon and was called One Trick Pony. With Tony's acting experience (haahaa), i think he would make a good Julian in SFAM: The Movie :-)
here's the link to the movie in imdb: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0081280
MattyMo mattymo@mattymo.com www.mattymo.com www.mattymo.com/moshpit AIM: MattyMo Yahoo Messenger: mattymodotcom ICQ: 1952320
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:06:04 +0100 From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: tolerance taken seriously Message-ID: <200003030803.JAA18606@altair.ceu.hu>
Dear "progressive people", I take tolerance seriously. I would apprecciate if the people who consider themselves "people who think" would read this post:
If you people talk about guns, or any other highly controversial issue, I will usually not look at what you say, but why you say it.
Is what you say YOUR opinion, or have you just accepted the same that everybody around you thinks? more importantly: Do you put the sort of effort into re-thinking/checking/updating your own opinions that you expect others to do? We all want others to "think about it", "see they are wrong" yet we all put so little effort into searching for what WE ARE WRONG at.
You can't really be 100% right, but you can PUT EFFORT into understanding the other, put effort into tolerance. Work on your views. Open mind for a different view and nothing else matters.
I mean, we have two directions: pro gunners derive their pro gunness from a basic constitutional right. Anti gunners are pure peace lovers, pacifists, right?? Why is everybody so damn aggressive then?? If you want nice peace, OR constitutionalism, then you should be a bit more open to TRUE debate, I think. To put it in another way, both directions have a positive source, but somehow what many of you transmit ends up being negative.
Also some of you people know so little about sanctions/punishment, it's effects and side effects; so little about what law is supposed to do, what law can do for society, that you might want to consider even refraining from some of these discussions. Similarly as many guitarists refrain from vocal-related threads............ I only said "might" and "consider", and I that is what I meant.
That's all from me for now.
With respect, T-Bone
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:37:43 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Outrageous claim about MP interview? Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000303083743.0178e030@pi-r-squared.com>
At 11:53 PM 3/2/00 -0800, you wrote: > >Not to start a complete all-out feud or anything here, but Mike Portnoy came >up in a discussion I was having today with a friend of mine who works at a >music store. When I asked about whether or not they carry the instructional >videos, he responded "I don't like Mike Portnoy anyways." I asked why, and >he told me that in an interview, he said something negative about Neil Peart >not knowing anything about drumming. I refuse to believe this, can someone >shed some light on this?
Tell the dumb ass it's not true. As a matter of fact Mike played on the fucking Rush tribute album, and claims Peart as one of his big influences. By Working Man and shove that in the fucker's face.
Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the opportunity." -Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:28:22 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: When dream and stupidity unite Message-ID: <38BF77A6.D14DFADE@isd.net>
mikel wrote: >bwhahahaha. This guys got the right idea. When I see Al Progtologist and all >them coming and saving my ass in World War 3, THEN I will stop laughing.
Would you be so kind as to provide a reason for dragging me into this? I NEVER said I was going to save ANYONE'S ass... I NEVER made one single comment about ANYONE'S country or it's politics. Don't EVEN start with me. I'll inflate your wrinkled little sack and float you in one of Minnesota's 10,000 lakes.
/Al is armed with an assault air compressor
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:52:22 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: oops Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000303085222.017c2f54@pi-r-squared.com>
> >Tell the dumb ass it's not true. As a matter of fact Mike played on the >fucking Rush tribute album, and claims Peart as one of his big influences. >By Working Man and shove that in the fucker's face. >
Okay, I misread what you said. The guy is a friend of yours... just correct him. Not that you shouldn't have done that anyway ;) I thought you were talkin about some guy just slaggin Mike to seem cool. Perhaps he is just misinformed.
Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the opportunity." -Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:46:43 +0100 From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Those damn europeans!!! Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030872E857@fileserver2>
> That said, the gun issue is tough here in America. It seems to me that it > is too late to take away guns... More strict purchasing laws are fine, but > most criminals get their guns from underground/black market sources anyway. > I wonder how long ago the countries with gun control put it in place? I > have no problem with citizens that have guns and don't use them to kill > others... But it does seem obvious that the poor kid who was killed by the > other would still be here if there wasn't a gun there to begin with...
You seem to forget that the kid would've gotten some gun from underground/ black market sources easily, so there's no sense in stricter gun control at all.
- Mike (feeling damn european, not to mention cynical)
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:17:18 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: This list annoys me already quite some time ! Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4A36@julia.um.be>
Somebody wrote: >> With all this talk about guns, and old jammers, and americans versus >> all other nations, and Dr. Mosh being a total BADASS...I don't think >> I've ever had this much fun reading posts to the jam in the 6-7
Honestly, I 've never wanted so unsubscribe as much as I do now. This is the most irritating list of post I have received in a long time. Not that I am not interested in all that stuff, this is just the wrong place, sorry. This is a DT/ Music in general list and it gets totally fxxcked up by some annoying people who want to share (I mean shove it up our throats...) their opinions on these matters with all others on the list. Painful and irritating. :(
HeinV
NP Therion Deggial
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