YTSEJAM Digest 5381
Today's Topics:
1) QR in Atl. (and DT)
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
2) Re: QR in Atl. (and DT)
by Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
3)
by Jon Parmet (DTS-52) <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
4) Jericho & DT
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
5) CD-R's v. Original Pressing
by Jpbwildcat@aol.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5380
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
7) New homepages
by Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi>
8) UNSUBSRIBE MAX ROBINSON RIGHT NOW
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5380
by Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
10) Neil Peart pronunciation
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
11) keys, etc.
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) This is hardcore
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
13) Re: keys, etc.
by "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de>
14) Our deeds have traveled far...
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
15) Various ramblings
by "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
16) Re: all the key players...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
17) New TransAtlantic, Symphony X, preview on YtseRadio
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
18) Re: Various ramblings
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
19) Re: Giant/Huff Brothers / White Heart
by "Matthew McDaniel" <cfiatp@hotmail.com>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5380
by BrianSteedman@aol.com
21) Pull Me Under A Glass Moon....etc.
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
22) daytona's 98
by Uroborosss@aol.com
23) Multi-keys
by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
24) The Dance of Rudess
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
25) Re: Multi-keys
by "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu>
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 100 03:07:28 -0800 (PST)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: QR in Atl. (and DT)
Message-ID: <200003081107.AA15227@crl.crl.com>
>Queensryche show in Atlanta: review.
>After just returning from the show I'd have to say that it was classic
>Queensryche. They did mostly Empire and Operation:Mindcrime with some
>of Q2K
>in there as well. Geoff was in prime vocals as always. Never heard him
>sing
>badly yet. This being my 4th or 5th (getting old and forget these
>small
>details) I found that Geoff sounded no different when I saw them back
>during
>the Empire tour and when they did the Operation: LiveCrime.
>The only difference was not seeing Chris DeGarmo. Most of the sounds
>were
>the same, but there were suttle differences that were expected.
>Over all it's a concert worth seeing.
QR played the same venue that DT did -- the Tabernacle. Interestingly
enough, I'm told by my roommate Tim, who was at QR, that they didn't
sell anywhere near as many tickets as DT did. (I'd rather not give
the reason why I didn't attend, but...... it involves Kelly Grey and DT.)
Well, that, and they've been pretty damn disappointing of late.
For DT, the uppermost balcony was open, for QR it was not. DT sold
about 2150 tickets (plus some comps). Including comps, QR didn't
quite do 2K. A bit startling....but not too surprising.
-- + Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com www.crl.com/~vanyel ICQ #4151223+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Godhead * Michael Moorcock * Changelings | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Storm Constantine * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Patrick O'Brian * Ozric Tentacles * Raymond Feist....|------------------------------
Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:26:20 +0100 From: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: QR in Atl. (and DT) Message-ID: <tkuvh2x7ler.fsf@zussun8.desy.de>
Paul> (I'd rather not give the reason why I didn't attend, Paul> but...... it involves Kelly Grey and DT.)
Is it because you would have eaten before the show and Kelly Grey, being one of the ugliest people I have ever seen, would have made you throw up? :-)
I saw QR here in Hamburg, Germany and I had to avert my eyes from the right side of the stage all the time.
Jason
-- Jason T. Breitweg E-Mail: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com WWW: http://www.blind-guardian.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:43:39 GMT From: Jon Parmet (DTS-52) <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Message-ID: <200003081143.LAA14976@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
>> > But, opinions are like assholes, each of has one, and most stink. >> >> Correction: Opinions are like assholes, everybody have one, and yours >stink! > >Correction of the Correction: Opinions are like assholes, everybody have >one, and everyone else's stinks!
Infection of the original: opinions are like assholes, each of us has one, but moist stinks.
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 07:30:13 -0500 From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jericho & DT Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000308072908.00acd890@pop.ecosoft.com>
I ran into Chris Jericho yesterday and DAMN if that boy didn't talk my ear off about DT.... I told him that we need to see his theme music have a bit of a change and he just smirked and said he's working on it....
Now that would be cool =)
-Robb
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:09:16 EST From: Jpbwildcat@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CD-R's v. Original Pressing Message-ID: <18.173f5a4.25f7aafc@aol.com>
I am beefing up my boot collection and was wondering what everybody's opinion was on CD-R's compared to the original pressing of bootlegs. Personally, I am not concerned with it not being the original pressing of a cd and I am more interested in listening to the music. Obviously the sound quality will be the cd (if on cd) and the only setback is that it wouldn't be really considered a collector's item since it is not "original". Everybody else have an opinion?
James
P.S. Paul Cashman----Sorry not to get back to you but yes, I did find a ride back after the Atl. show. Stayed around and met the band. Since you were keeping James backstage :-), I had to wait for him to come out. Thanks for asking
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:30:07 -0500 From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5380 Message-ID: <20000308.084631.-918309.2.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>
>> "I was listening to an interview with Angus Young, he did the same >>thing recently." > > Oh yes, he did, but it was for charity and the winner had to pay over 2.000 >dollars for it. (Nunno=B4s lesson was for personal profiting, costs 1.000 and, >last time i checked, no bids.....)
Actually, Young's lesson went for over $20,000 (extra zero). I'd rather pay $1,000 for Nuno's lesson than $20,000 for Young's.
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:22:09 +0200 From: Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New homepages Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20000308142209.0068c268@jone68-2.pop.sci.fi>
Check the bandsection out, there's pictures of Dream Theater, Stratovarius, Wacken Open Air'99 (Hammerfall, Labyrinth, Roland Grapow, Metalium, Dokken, Edguy...), Type O'Negative, Helloween, Megadeth, Moonspell... and if you want to check out pics of my pets, my music collection etc...here's the add:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/karihel
Satu
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Date: 8 Mar 2000 14:39:35 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: UNSUBSRIBE MAX ROBINSON RIGHT NOW Message-ID: <20000308143935.31785.qmail@musone.chek.com>
>From: "Secret_of Area_51" <mysterx51@hotmail.com> >Subject: Super Tuesday
>Hey jammers. I live in California, and we, along with >several other states, are to vote for President of the >United States today.
No you aren't, you moron.
<rest of post snipped>
>Thank you for your time, and I opologize for what >some people would see as a waste of bandwidth.
You're right. It is a waste of banedwidth; would someone please unsub this idiot "Max Robinson" ASAP? I know I've wandered off-topic before, but we've just had a warning to get back on-topic, and to post a party political broadcast on the jam is outrageous and must surely be against the rules.
Anyway, I'm off to crash "Max Robinson"'s mailox if that's OK with everybody. Prick.
~Simon
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:49:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu> To: "Ytsejam: Where Dream and Flames Unite" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5380 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10003080942260.25369-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
> > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:49:30 -0800 > From: "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com> > Subject: Re: Jordan is a bit limited > > > >And besides, how many sounds does he WANT? On that > >setlist, he's not using a whole lotta sounds! You can > >count them on your hands: > > Main pad > >Piano > >Lead > >Sitar for Home > >err... > >Nope, that's about it! > > I think he's using a lot more sounds than that. Also, you have to consider > that each pedal hit changes the configuration of his keyboard. Jordan does > a lot of subtle things on the keyboard while he has it divided into two > completely different sounds. This is very evident on the Rudess/Morgenstein > Project disc. He's often using completely different sounds for each hand, > and this configuration may change much more often than the "most evident" > sound does. I think you're over-simplifying the situation.
As someone else said, agreeing with you, there are pitch wheel settings, slide strip settings, key zone settings, changes in the layering of sounds, heck, even variations in the force of a key pressing can produce completely different sounds, and don't forget key sustains. Face it, whoever takes the time to learn the Kurzweil is the supreme hacker of all keyboardists...there are so many way to do the same thing, that it would take a hacker to figure them all out. I want one. ;-)
-jeremy
+================================================================+ Jeremy Hallum, Assistant System Manager & Grad Student, Astronomy, Boston University/jhallum@bu.edu:::jhallum@dreamt.org "Audentis Fortuna Iuvat"
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:55:12 -0500 From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Neil Peart pronunciation Message-ID: <38C669D0.40F4F59C@seacoast.com>
It's neil as in kneel, peeeeeeeeeeeeeeert, as in peer ...t , not pert as in the shampoo, though 99% of people pronounce it that way
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:51:01 -0500 From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: keys, etc. Message-ID: <002d01bf890d$bb498140$0200010a@steve>
> His answer / question: Why not use the state-of-the-art technology? > Why use dozens of keyboards when I can have all the sounds I > want in just one?
Why be spontaneous? Why bother with some impromptu creativity? Why give the rest of the band the freedom to do something new so we don't all get bored?
> He definitely seems NOT to feel limited in any way!
Then he's in serious denial.
> Why not? Just punch in an appropriate patch by hand..
Would that screw up the increment of programs set up on the pedal? (Not trying to be obnoxious, I really don't know.)
> Subject: how do you pronounce "Neil Peart"?
[NEEL PEERT]
> Any of you heard his recent contribution to an album of classical works > done by the great keyboardists of rock on acoustic piano?
Yes. I thought his technical performance was fine. (And Chopin's Revolutionary Etude is quite a technical feat!) It was very cold, though. Little dynamic variation. Stolid tempo with almost no rubato whatsoever.
And he didn't play an acoustic piano. He played that damn Kurzweil. (Which probably contributed to the lack of dynamics.) The Kurzeil piano sound is amazing, but next to those real pianos on the rest of the CD, it just doesn't cut it.
> music collection! The experience that he got from being at Julliard and > afterwards is at least ten years or so ahead of the other guys in the > band.
JULLIARD IS NO FUCKING GUARANTEE!!!!
> Let's not forget that he actually works for the company that > provides him with some of the world's finest synthesizers ever made > (Kurzweil).
Is that supposed to mean something? I could work for PRS and that wouldn't make me a great guitarist.
> I'm not dismissing other opinions here, but please consider his entire > history as a professional musician. You will see that he is most > definitely no fluke!
Which isn't even the issue. The issue was that the one-keyboard setup limits him and the rest of the band, whether he realizes it or not. The answer is yes.
Steve Z
ps - besides, it just LOOKS so cool to have a million keyboards up there. :)
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Date: 8 Mar 2000 14:55:05 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: This is hardcore Message-ID: <20000308145505.2011.qmail@musone.chek.com>
>From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> >Subject: Re: Jordan is a bit limited >>While that may well be true, I don't think that >>DT really has much of a "casual" fanbase - and >>I doubt that someone who heard PMU on the radio >>nine years ago is going to turn up to a show now >>on the off-chance. > >Ummm don't be so sure. There's a number of us Houston >folk who fit that description and are first timers >going into the Dallas show this week. It's more >common than you think. On the other hand, I don't >really care if I hear PMU live.. it's not my fav >DT song by any means.
OK, crossed wires here. What I meant was, people who heard PMU and DIDN'T rush out and get into DT won't see a poster for it and think "oh yeah, I heard that on the radio back in '92...". Sure, you could argue that they might up 'til Awake, and maybe even TII; but not now. Besides, you could hardly call yourself a casual fan - you're on the Ytsejam for Chrissakes! You're hardcore, man!
>From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) >Subject: Re: Jordan is a bit limited > >This is one of the most retarded threads I've ever >read. PMU is a classic, it's what really "broke" DT >out... why would they stop playing it? It sure >beats the crap out of the other crap like FII and >SFAM when you hear it next to most of those songs...
Ah...The fabled Mosh sense of humour!
To be honest, I don't like any live version I've heard on any boot or offical live release. They've never nailed it, IMO, and I don't expect that they will this time either. Personally, I'd like them to play LITS or TOT rather than Peruvian Skies, but mustn't grumble, it's still a good tune (even if the lyrics are painfully bad!).
>From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> >Subject: Re: Super Tuesday >How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat >your meat?!
Aw nuts! I've been hearing it wrong! I thought that sample ran "How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat your GREENS?"! That doesn't make sense...Everyone like eating meat, but lots of people hate greens... Bleurgh.
~Simon
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:09:03 +0100 From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: keys, etc. Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030872E865@fileserver2>
> Why be spontaneous? Why bother with some impromptu creativity? Why give > the rest of the band the freedom to do something new so we don't all get > bored?
Besides going through the pre-programmed order with the foot pedal he can select a new patch anytime WITH HIS HANDS. I wonder why this is so difficult for people to grasp. The foot pedal just adds to Jordan's flexibility, it doesn't limit him.
- Mike
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:09:29 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Our deeds have traveled far... Message-ID: <38C66D29.C0ECD0D6@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Dustro2 quotes YAMRW (yet another music reviewer wanabee):
> "[...] and I can attribute the sales of this band only to mass hypnosis."
"Close your eyes and begin to relax..... " :P
With each breath he begins LESS relaxed :)
> ' "Another Day" vacillates [...]'
I use a $4 word, therefore I am :)
> "Awake tends to put me right to sleep."
I dare he was asleep long before he put that album on ;)
> "[...] (how can anyone listen to that guy's singing for more than a few minutes > at a time?)"
Mercifullly, his reviews didn't take that long to read :)
> gkampf@mondenet.com Ottawa, Ontario
I recognize the entity from somewhere, rec.music.progressive perhaps.
> why even wast the time to write something like this
Attention?
Clearly, starting off the review with such powerful words as 'shitty' and then followed by the splooge of multi-syllabic words and the sheer numbers of adjectives is typical of the high horse, ivory tower kind of review that a wannabee posts.
It was a fun read though for a fodder inhaler like me :)
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:19:10 -0300 From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Various ramblings Message-ID: <9657E8FD2F4F3D11DA6D0005B80363D1@randy_rhoads.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
>Someone wrote: > "I was listening to an interview with Angus Young, he did >the same thing recently." > > Oh yes, he did, but it was for charity and the winner had to pay >over 2.000 dollars for it. (Nunno=B4s lesson was for personal >profiting, costs 1.000 and, last time i checked, no bids.....)
BTW, Jay Leno made a nice joke about this, saying after the lesson was over, Angus took the money he got for the lesson and went out to get some lessons himself... :-)
>I think most people would rather see it only occasionally than every >show.
Yeah, I guess everybody would, but the problem IMO is that not everybody gets to go to more than one concert like you probably did... I, for one, love PMU, it's one of my favorite DT songs, and probably would be very disappointed if I went to a concert and they didn't play it, although I'd surely trade PS for, say, LtL or Scarred...
>I'm not dismissing other opinions here, but please consider his >entire history as a professional musician. You will see that he is >most definitely no fluke!
I think you may have missed the point here... When someone suggested that Jordan's limited, he/she was saying that his use of only one keyboard during the show limits him and the band, in terms of improvising and changing the set list on a nightly basis... I don't think his playing was ever the problem, no one doubts he's one of the best, if not THE best keyboard player in the world...
Later, Adriano
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:24:56 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: all the key players... Message-ID: <004701bf8914$2f77e100$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>I believe this was posted that he hung around long enough >to show Derek some of the stuff in the songs they'd be >playing on tour. It might be in the FAQ.
I don't think so. From what I remember reading back when DT brought Derek aboard was that Kevin was long gone, but he left copies of the patches that he'd used in his songs behind so that the new keyboardist could pick right up on them. Derek had to learn the parts by ear as I recall. Jordan had sheet music, yes, but he also has that master transcriber friend, remember. -- KorgX3 is the FAQ-Man, boyeee!
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:36:12 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: The Mirror <themirror@egroups.com>, Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: New TransAtlantic, Symphony X, preview on YtseRadio Message-ID: <38C6736C.49279594@ivorygate.com>
Hey gang, tonight on YtseRadio (www.ytseradio.com) starting at Midnight EST, DJ fugazi will be playing cuts from the following new albums: TransAtlantic - SMPTe Symphony X - (self titled new release on Metal Blade) King's X - "Please Come Home...Mr. Bulbous" The Quiet Room - Reconceive
So tune in and check them out...
-- ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:40:53 -0500 From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Various ramblings Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000308103804.00ab8350@pop.ecosoft.com>
I have no idea what goes into programming the keyboard. But logic dictates to me that he could just program in a basic keyboard sound, one that proliferates through various songs, so that they could just mix it up after a medley, etc, or just simply jam.
Forgive me if its not that simple but, i find it hard to swallow that they can't add songs that they know already, (this includes jordan's learning curve for other songs) as they see fit if they can/do use the same/similar keyboard sound as others.
I hope this makes sense...I'm knee deep in vendor hell
-Robb
At 07:27 AM 3/8/00 -0800, Adriano F. Giacomini wrote:
>I think you may have missed the point here... When someone suggested >that Jordan's limited, he/she was saying that his use of only one >keyboard during the show limits him and the band, in terms of >improvising and changing the set list on a nightly basis... I don't >think his playing was ever the problem, no one doubts he's one of the >best, if not THE best keyboard player in the world... > > >Later, >Adriano > > >"A daily dose of eMpTyV will flush your mind right down the drain" > DREAM THEATER >Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ >___________________________________________________________ >Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:49:59 EST From: "Matthew McDaniel" <cfiatp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Giant/Huff Brothers / White Heart Message-ID: <20000308154959.22891.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Was cathing up on jams and saw someone mention White Heart, and he said >something that it was the Huff brothers' first band before they went on to >the studio musician career. I might be totally wrong here, but I think that >White Heart was formed (much like Koinonia, anyone know them?) around >talented christian studio musicians... for example, Tommy Sims played with >them for a few albums etc. > >feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Well, you're not wrong, but you did misunderstand my original post. What I said was that the Huff brothers were in White Heart prior to Giant....not prior to becoming studio musicians. They may have been studio musicians before White Heart, but I'm not informed about that. They left White Heart to form Giant and later went on to do a lot of producing work. White Heart continued on for many years with a rotational lineup of christian musicians, but is now defunct. Hope that helps to clear things up a little.
~Just another Matt
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:50:51 EST From: BrianSteedman@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5380 Message-ID: <32.21a124d.25f7d0db@aol.com>
In a message dated 3/8/00 5:45:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< >This is one of the most retarded threads I've ever read. PMU is a classic, >it's what really "broke" DT out... why would they stop playing it? It sure >beats the crap out of the other crap like FII and SFAM when you hear it next >to most of those songs... I think most people would rather see it only occasionally than every show. Whoever said that DT doesn't have much of a casual fan base is right - this isn't music for the casual listener. I think the majority of people at the shows are those who have at least a couple of DT albums, not someone who heard PMU several years back and liked it but doesn't own an album. The problem is that DT has no "special" songs, really. I'm talkin' songs that they only break out occasionally - "Where Are You Now?" at the last couple of Xmas gigs in '98 is a good example. Do that shit more often. Like only play PMU occasionally, or throw Scarred or Ytsejam or Learning to Live in somewhere every few shows. Treat the people that go to more than one show to something different every time out, or people won't go to as many shows... Bah... :) >> To add to Adam's comments, I don't necessarily disagree, but I would like to share my own opinion. I live in the Baltimore/DC area, and I caught both the Baltimore and DC show. The exact same show was played both times, and I was disappointed to hear James Labrie's comments to the crowd (with the exception of a "weird venue comment regarding bohagers) were almost identical to the previous shows. However, the show's were only a week apart, so I kind of expected to see the same show. I'm sure that Jordan, even though he is a great musical genious, doesn't know all of DT's repetoire yet, so an improv jump into an old classic might not be thoroughly possible. The bottom line is, it was a great show the first time, and a great show the second time, and I'm glad I got tickets to them before they sold out.
The Spirit Carries On, Brian
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:03:03 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Pull Me Under A Glass Moon....etc. Message-ID: <20000308160303.61633.qmail@hotmail.com>
>It's time to put PMU to bed, methinks.
I think that shortening PMU and confining it to a medly is a good compromise...they play it, but they leave room for other stuff, too. If I had MY way, though, they'd do a COMPLETE OAMOT, my pick for best DT song EVER. But I don't get to see DT every day, so I generally enjoy whatever they DO play..... -Fran/Banjoman
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:07:55 EST From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: daytona's 98 Message-ID: <49.1abae13.25f7d4db@aol.com>
In a message dated 00-03-07 01:13:34 EST, you write:
> I could have sworn that I was at a show at Daytona's in '98....I > think....wasn't I?
Don't you remember? During "Just Let Me Breathe," James got so upset that his megaphone wasn't working properly that he hurled it into the crowd. It smashed into your glasses. You were knocked unconscious instantly. Whatever you might remember about the rest of that show, you were hearing it through the ears of a sleeping body, my friend.
Derek gave you mouth-to-mouth after the show to revive you. You awoke instantly.
> Bafu, wasn't I.? Was that me? I'm so confused.
It was your evil twin, Moc-Zek.
> yeah, I really am, > Kez
May 5th, 1998. James LaBrie's birthday. It was the show featuring Pinball Man, I believe. A girl who really liked James' vocals found his broken megaphone on the ground by the tour-bus after the show, and another guy much larger than her snatched it up. She was externally upset because she wanted to get James to sign the megaphone. She was internally upset because she couldn't physically pry it from the guy's hands. I asked Petrucci yet again about "Gemini" and he denied that such a piece ever existed.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:10:37 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Multi-keys Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000308110130.00a57720@cs.millersville.edu>
The way I look at the Jordan-one-synth debate is this: if you can get your instruments for free via endorsements or whatever, why the hell not use as many as you can fit onto your tourbus? Just a thought...
Brian
[NP...Spiral Architect -- A Sceptic's Universe]
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:18:46 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: The Dance of Yts <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The Dance of Rudess Message-ID: <38C67D66.F7E576B3@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
k so this week's obsession shall be TDOE.
The Dance Of Eternity at 3:32 : there's this really cool Jordan synthy soundy thingy. Did he forget to turn one of the 9 layers of waveforms he had cranking or was that MacLisp just doing a garbage collect? ;)
check the Jordan synth shiz** thing happening at 1:56-2:00. and with JP playing the hellraising 1hz ballz n chunk on the 7-string, that whole section just enters a total realm of science fiction where sound is dividing by 0. nothing is real.
what is that effect Jordan is doing 5:31 (again at 5:35 5:39 5:42). is that patched in or he beating up the pitch wheel? what do they call that, portamento mon grandissimo? ;) can't even comprehend what Mike is doing most of the time during this tune; there's some rhythms in there, i hear something like a beat i guess; but it's difficult enough trying to process what he's doing with only two ears. there really are more than 5 members in this band ;)
i'd like to see them do and extended something or other like that, BUT with each member making sounds that just aren't based in reality (think Chewbacca but with more of a DT sound, not LTE). myung perhaps taking a bow to to chapman stick. or perhaps using the 6-string yamaha AS A BOW on the stick!!!!! portnoy completely fed through synth triggers (think tocatta) YEAH BABY! labrie through the vocoder (DON'T think Frampton , hehehe)
rudess and petrucci don't need to be covered anymore. they've already left the planet :)
/me slowly fades away.....awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy,
Jon
**by the way, Thanks to Whacky for introducing me to the word 'SHIZ' ;) Sell that JPM yet?
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:39:55 -0500 From: "Kenn de Mello" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Multi-keys Message-ID: <002401bf891c$ef5b7060$b7ab889e@plymouth.edu>
> > The way I look at the Jordan-one-synth debate is this: if you can get your > instruments for free via endorsements or whatever, why the hell not use as > many as you can fit onto your tourbus? Just a thought... > > Brian >
Jordan had 2 synths, but only used one of them. I am assuming the second was for backup.
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