YTSEJAM Digest 5407
Today's Topics:
1) LOLOL, fiber optics kills :)))
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) RE: John P in new Guitar 1
by "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
3) Rolling Stone; Marillion
by "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com>
4) When is DT comin' to OZ???????????????????????
by "Brad Watt" <bwatt@gotafe.vic.edu.au>
5) jp solo
by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
6) don't waste your time...
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
7) Melodic minor
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
8) automation down until further notice
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
9) I got one!!!
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
10) Xmas CD's Suggestion
by Bruce Duesterhoeft <bduester@avana.net>
11) Hey Richard Warren!!!!
by "Joseph Smith" <tptblo@hotmail.com>
12) Re: Transatlantic
by Joel Timmins <timmins@dca.net>
13)
by "Charlie Hamilton" <charlie@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
14) JP
by "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu>
15) Niacin?
by Matej <izolit@siol.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5404
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
17) Blind Guardian mp3s at www.mp3.com
by Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
18) Setlist for European tour - disappointing.
by "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de>
19) Jamming in the UK.
by "David Ware" <d.ware@rpc-corby.co.uk>
20) Vanden Plas Live on German Radio tonite!
by Charlie Farrell <charles.farrell@tesco.net>
21) Re: Petrucci and 7 stringers
by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
22) Re: Niacin?
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
23) Someone's Racer X comments
by "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com>
24) Metropolis 2000 - Chicago, 13/02/00 MP3 !
by Emre Topuzoglu <Emret@ispro.net.tr>
25) Upcoming Trip (NDTC)
by "M. Emerson" <cthulhu@CYBERNEX.NET>
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:50:47 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: LOLOL, fiber optics kills :)))
Message-ID: <38DE7827.AEA1E7D5@mol.com.mk>
HAHAHA, this is nuts.
I just read this part in my Computer Network textbook (in
English) and this is what made me laugh.
<here comes the text> LOL
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FDDI (Fiber Distributed Data Interface) also uses LEDs
rather than lasers, not only due to their lower cost, but
also because FDDI may sometimes be used to connect directly
to user workstations. There is a danger that curious user
may occasionally unplug the fiber connector and look
directly into it to watch the bits go by at 100 Mbps. With a
laser the curious user might end up with a hole in his
retina.
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CyberDuke
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:16:26 -0500
From: "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: John P in new Guitar 1
Message-ID: <NDBBIKGKKLCGJMPIJKOKKEEDCAAA.agoldman@bates.edu>
Does anyone happen to know who was ranked above JP in those categories in
Guitar 1? I'm just willing to bet that one of the guitar players from Korn
was higher in the 7-string rankings....
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:27:04 EST
From: "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Rolling Stone; Marillion
Message-ID: <20000326232704.34709.qmail@hotmail.com>
Rolling Stone hasn't supported prog for years. Chances are,
if you read through a few issues, you'll see them unashamedly
bashing it.
>From: "Rodrigo Carvalho Leme" <mtnjester@uol.com.br>
>Subject: Re: Marillion
> > Someone wanted a review of 2 "Hogillian" CD's. Marillion.com and some
> > other one. Don't bother -stick to the "Fish years."
>WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>Have you ever listened to albuns like "Brave", "seasons End", "Afraid of
>Sunlight"...probably not, or else you'd not say something like that...
I'm not so certain. Brave is one of my personal favorites (save
for "Paper Lies", which doesn't really sit well with the rest
of the album), which I count as one of the most emotional
works I've ever heard. AoS I've listened to maybe 5 times
and still can't say that I really enjoy it.
>What I have to say for someone who wants to know about Marillion, I'll just
>say: "buy any album", not "stick to Fish"
Actually, I'd tell them to get "Six of One, Half Dozen of the
Other" to compare the two. Or one of the other 'Best Of'
compilations; these are generally the best place to start with
any band.
D/J
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:09:05 +1000
From: "Brad Watt" <bwatt@gotafe.vic.edu.au>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: When is DT comin' to OZ???????????????????????
Message-ID: <s8df3349.030@gotafe.vic.edu.au>
I want Dream Theater to come to Australia so they can show these Aussie =
pricks over there how to music (properly).
I am telling DT to get Down here NOW, please come i'm sick this old shit =
that is gettin' play this tonw.
Brad.
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:16:49 +1000
From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: jp solo
Message-ID: <38DEA871.B8BACF3D@alphalink.com.au>
> #1 is definitely Petrucci. But most probably the best is: Steve Vai. And we all know that JP has SV as an idol. Still for me
> Petrucci rules, I mean, he's so fast, listen to the end of the solo from Paris: he demolished the guitar playing the bumble-bee,
> you can hear him picking the stringz.
imho i think steve vai is the better guitarist. ive wondered if Petrucci could hold up a solo career the same way
as Steve Vai does and still sound fresh and creative. I know that it would be difficult now, but if Petrucci was a bit
older, do you think he could have made a decent solo career?
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 16:19:25 PST
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: don't waste your time...
Message-ID: <20000327001926.67895.qmail@hotmail.com>
i've noticed a lot of people trying to get DT 'media exposure', and though
it's a nice gesture, it's kinda pointless, IMHO. Magazines which are owned
by big corporations aren't going to play/write about DT, because they're not
trendy, hence they don't sell magazines, hence they don't make them any
money. But who cares??
My point is that, if people are dissatisfied with the music they hear on the
radio, eMpTyV, etc, THEY WILL GO OUT AND SEARCH FOR SOMETHING THEY LIKE. We
all did. And anyone getting into prog WILL hear about DT, because they ARE
the most popular modern prog band out there.
*whew* I've become too passive. That little 'rant' just wore me right
out....
-Fran/Banjoman
np: moe. - No Doy
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 02:28:48 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Melodic minor
Message-ID: <38DEAB40.5DC62453@mol.com.mk>
> From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
> Subject: Re: Melodic Minor
>
> In accordance with the prophecy, CyberDuke uttered:
> (on the jazz/melodic minor scale)
>
> > in classical, when the melody goes down it plays
> > the B instead of Bb. Example: Bach - Toccata &
> > Fuga, the first melody line.
>
> Um, yes, Bach - Toccata & Fuga. Do you mean the one
> in C minor, D minor or G minor? Or perhaps C major?
In D minor jack-ass! The most famous one. Still don't get
it?
The one that was covered my Vanessa Mae. A lousy cover btw.
But speaking of Mae covers, she did AWESOME job with the
Focus mindblower HOCUS POCUS.
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:00:24 -0500
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: "No Holds barred distribution list":;
Subject: automation down until further notice
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000326185709.00a22ed0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
The automation is not functioning right now, due to severa factors. The web
site is not updated to reflect that we do automation. he listener count is
not high enough to justify burning my own machine into the ground for this,
and I really need a second computer to do this right. so, at least
temporarily, there is no automation for No Holds barred Radio. WE will
still be doing live shows on Tuesday nights, with an hour of preview
material starting at 7:00 p.m. It was a difficult decission, but I am
spending too much time keeping the staion going and not enough time writing
material and this has tostop. When I get my hands on a second computer,
then automation will continue. But for right now, I can't justify devoting
my only computer to a cause that isn't drawing enough listeners. If we had
consistent listenership, then I could justify doing it, butsince Shoutcast
no longer carries live365 stations, this has drastically hurt us during the
week. I need my machine back. I will email when we have things up again,
but for now, get your nhb radio fix on Tuesdays starting at 7:00 p.m
eastern time.
-- Damon Fibraio, and new guide dog Melody email: dfibraio@home.com computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Live show on Tuesdays from 8 to 11 p.m. eastern time go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words------------------------------
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:38:31 -0800 (PST) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: I got one!!! Message-ID: <20000327023831.9440.qmail@web504.mail.yahoo.com>
Well I managed to wrangle my ex g/f into buying SFAM and she absolutely raved. She likes all the songs (esp "Overture 1928", "Strange Deja Vu" and "One Last Time"). Of the latter, she singled out the drums as being especially powerful. Before I talked her into buying the disc, she said she was really starting to enjoy Yes. She had Big Generator in her car in her stereo all the time. I'm not big on Yes, but I've heard of many other people who dig Yes that also dig DT. I gave her a rough outline of what ACOS is all about and she's nuts to buy that one next. And get this-- she likes Vai and Satch too. What a cool chick. Anyway, thought you guys might get a kick out of this. Check y'all later.
===== *Trent
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Is this the part where I'm supposed to say something funny?
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:00:06 -0500 From: Bruce Duesterhoeft <bduester@avana.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Xmas CD's Suggestion Message-ID: <38DECEB5.1F0871A1@avana.net>
Is it possible for the people in charge of shipping the CD's to post a list of all members sent their 1999 Christmas CD?
This may stop people from screaming on the jam and allow people like me (that have been in the club for 6 years) to have some ease that we will see it, especially since I moved and have no clue if the post office will forward it or not.
Thanks!
Bruce
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:18:43 CST From: "Joseph Smith" <tptblo@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Hey Richard Warren!!!! Message-ID: <20000327031843.71644.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey Rich! It's Joe Smith! Get in touch by email! Talk to you soon! JOE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:04:27 -0500 From: Joel Timmins <timmins@dca.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Transatlantic Message-ID: <000363c6abd16f96_mailit@smtp-relay.dca.net>
>does anyone know of a link of where i can buy the >limited edition of transatlantic? thanks
I ordered it from Radiant at www.radiantrecords.com. Pendragon also has it listed (www.pendragonusa.com).
Joel
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:19:31 -0500 From: "Charlie Hamilton" <charlie@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: Ytsejam@torchsong.com Message-ID: <B97CC03AC7304D11DA0E000A9C4B95C0@charlie.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
So I guess I should check out Racer X then huh? Thanks for the info! ! !
Charlie
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:47:42 +0200 From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: JP Message-ID: <200003270546.HAA05467@altair.ceu.hu>
> I mean, he's so fast, > listen to the end of the solo from Paris: he demolished the guitar playing > the bumble-bee, you can hear him picking the stringz.
That is sports, not music. > > John Petrucci Rules!!!!!!!!
But I agree. :) T-bone >
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:25:37 +0100 From: Matej <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Niacin? Message-ID: <38DE8E60.3116B533@siol.net>
Has anyone heard any Niacin music. It's supposed to be Billy Sheehans new band/project and I can't find their records anywhere, there are supposed to be three CDs out. A short review would really make my day. Korg, I betcha 5 bucks there's at least one of their mp3s in your scary mp3 collection :)
Matej
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 03:01:45 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5404 Message-ID: <38DF3189.59FD9F91@imap1.asu.edu>
Waseem wrote: > > ok ok > guitar world and guitar 1 or guitar-whatever!!--if petrucci isnt the num > 1 guitarist then can someone please tell us who is?
Me.
~Darth Eckie of the Dark Shredi
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Date: 27 Mar 2000 14:18:05 +0200 From: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, teof@egroups.com, galleryofshadows@onelist.com Subject: Blind Guardian mp3s at www.mp3.com Message-ID: <tkuaejk38ua.fsf@zussun8.desy.de>
21 hand-picked songs (hand-picked by Andre Olbrich) from Blind Guardian are available for download and listening at http://www.mp3.com/bg. This "best of" collection should give everyone that isn't familiar with Blind Guardian's music a chance to listen to one of the most unique heavy metal bands in the scene today.
This partnership with mp3.com was established to give the fans in America an easy chance to hear Blind Guardian's music since Blind Guardian CDs are still somewhat hard to find in the U.S.A. If these mp3 samples convince you to pick up some Blind Guardian CDs we would appreciate it if you would click on the e-mail link on the web page and tell us. Some CDs are already available in the U.S.A. through Century Media Records (www.centurymedia.com) and other fine online dealers.
Best of Blind Guardian mp3 Collection: www.mp3.com/bg
Jason
-- Jason T. Breitweg E-Mail: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com WWW: http://www.blind-guardian.com
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:24:03 +0200 From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" <michael.pruchnicki@computec.de> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Setlist for European tour - disappointing. Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030872E871@fileserver2>
> 1. Metropolis part II: Scenes from a Memory (in it's entirety, with keyboard > solo in TDOE) > 2. Peruvian Skies > 3. Dr. Evil's theme > 4. Instrumental Medley > 5. When Images & Words Unite -medley
After seeing two concerts of the warmup tour in November, this is disappointing.
Damn. I really, really wish they'll change the post-SfaM stuff pretty soon. I thought they'd mix it up a bit for the people who have seen them on the warmup tour (yeah, they didn't play Finland back then so that's OK, but something in my head tells me that they won't change the setlist for Germany, either). :(
- Mike
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:36:59 +0100 From: "David Ware" <d.ware@rpc-corby.co.uk> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Jamming in the UK. Message-ID: <001901bf97f9$e8f6c300$1f010032@corbyedp4>
Guys,
Just wondering who was seeing DT in the UK next week.... Me and Wifey will be at the Nottingham gig on Wednesday - it would be cool to say hey to anyone who might be there. Let us know...!
Dave (a UK jammer) - another pathetic attempt to leave lurk mode has failed...
NP: Chromakey - This is a Recording.
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:33:24 +0100 From: Charlie Farrell <charles.farrell@tesco.net> To: "ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Vanden Plas Live on German Radio tonite! Message-ID: <38DF7F44.9747942F@tesco.net>
Apologies if my knowledge of German geography isn't that good, but here is the info I have.
The show will be broadcast from 08.00 p.m. until 10.00 p.m. on Rockland Radio, depending upon where you live in the region (near Frankfurt, Darmstadt. Mainz, Wiesbaden) the frequency will be around 105.2 or 105.3 on the FM band. The radio station is also available via cable on 95.75.
The show will feature an interview with the band and music from their gig in paris on 13.02.2000 (including performances of Don Dokken and Patrick Rondat playing with the band).
I was at the gig, and though it wasn't the best I'd ever seem them play, it was a pretty good gig. Watch out for Gunter's keys solo - which owes more than a little to DT and the so-far unreleased instrumental track which follows (now available on the latest boot from OAN). The encores include Don Dokken singing 'Kiss of Death' and 'father' with the band and guitarist patrick Rondat joining the band for 'Rainmaker'. Several of older tracks have been re-arranged from the studio versions, so German fans! man your recording equipment tonite!
Charlie
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:57:13 -0500 From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Petrucci and 7 stringers Message-ID: <7B2ECE8DD7304D11DA6D00807C90262A@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
<<Let me guess. In the latter, he came in right behind Wes Borland and the two idiots from Korn. >:(>>
Actually, Wes Borland wasn't in the category, hell he wasn't in ANY category! Neither was Kirk Hammet (thank god). The 3 people in front of Petrucci in "best 7 stringer" were:
1. Steve Vai (no shit) 2. Jimmy Bruno (an AMAZING Jazz 7 stringer) 3. Korn guys
Personally, the GuitarOne awards were 10 times better than any others, mainly because the EDITORS chose who won in each category, it wasn't a write in poll. Though I do admit they seemed to be giving EVH a handjob throughout the categories (hell, better him than the Flacid Muphen, er Limp Bizkit guy).
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:12:25 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Niacin? Message-ID: <001e01bf9807$41f324f0$0201010a@chuck>
> Korg, I betcha 5 bucks there's at least one of their > mp3s in your scary mp3 collection :)
Hehehe. Yup. :) I have their first self-titled album, found it in the $1 bin at the local music store. One of those albums I bought during my short-lived stint at getting into fusion. :P Not that it's bad, but all that highly technical instrumental stuff just gets on my nerves after, uh, about 5 minutes (a la LTE). :)
BUT, Niacin >is< Billy Sheehan on bass, John Novello on organ, and Dennis Chambers on drums. They have three albums and you can order them from CDNow. I think they even have sound clips, too. From what I've heard, Niacin possibly was inspired by none-other than our favorite celebrity jammer Jens. But that's another story. :) -- KorgX3 plays hopscotch on a bed of nails. NP: Loreena McKennitt - Marrakesh Night Market.mp3
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:29:15 -0600 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Someone's Racer X comments Message-ID: <003201bf981a$5c472000$95c4fea9@madstation>
> From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
> As far as I can tell, there aren't a lot of technical > tricks that JP CAN'T do! The difference is that JP keeps > his chops under a pretty tight reign normally. Paul > Gilbert finally learned to do the same, and Racer X split > up, because they were really only ever a rather dull > shred-fest. Think Jason Becker's "Perpetual Burn" album, > but turned up to 11. El Gilberto calmed down, and joined > the rather more interesting Mr Big.
Where can I get some of what you're smoking? A). Racer X played that way, because that was the hip thing to do back then. It's a dated sound, but so, arguably, is DT; and so, most definitely, is Mr. Big. Now whether you like Racer X or not is your call. I can certainly understand someone not getting into it. But you just can't take it out of context... comparing music from 1987 and 2000 in terms of taste... it's the very definition of "Paradigm Shift." Let's keep in mind that around the time Gilbert formed Mr. Big (whose first album came out in 1989, following 2 studio and 1 live Racer X albums), DT was still called "Majesty" and JP was still including YROs (Yngwie Rip Offs) in some of his solos (check out some of the ACoS and PMU demos). Gilbert and JP are of a similar age (I believe Paul is a year younger)... I don't think you can fairly say that JP calmed down first, if you listen to the audible history B). John Petrucci is about as restrained as my anus after a Burrito Loco. I like what he does, but he does a lot of it, a lot of the time. Restraint is not a virtue known in the world of prog. . C). Show me some 8 finger technique by JP. Show me some finger/plectrum techniques a la Garsed, Howe, Thal. Show me some polyrhythm. Show me some advanced harmonic concepts in terms of song construction and soloing, a la Holdsworth. Show me IMPROVISATION. There are TONS of things JP can't do. No one can do everything. There simply isn't enough time. But if we were to look specifically at techniques, I assure you Gilbert and many others have licks that JP can't do. I'm sure I have licks that JP can't do, and I don't pretend to have arrived at his plane of musicality yet. You have licks he can't do as well, if you've been working hard for a good long time. That's not important... what's important is that JP is playing what he feels, and what his heart tells him to play. But let's get rid of this pedestal. He's great, but greatness is not uncommon, just rarely rewarded. D). Just for my personal benefit, and in the interest of not forcing me to return to my old ways, let's keep the desparaging remarks about Perpetual Burn (which I happen to consider to be one of the most important guitar album in history) to a minimum. There's so much going on on that album... if you can't hear it, that's your problem, but I am still waiting for the day DT, or God forbid, LTE can do anything nearly as interesting. I heard glimmers of a similar depth of emotion in Lines in the Sand in some of the slower, more mellow parts of the solo, as well as in some of the Rock Discipline video chunks (in between sections) but nowhere else in the JP library of sick shred and prog. It's subjective of course, but I have yet to meet a guitarist who could back up his talk who wasn't stunned by Becker. Even Blue Note artist Fareed Haque, the head of the NIU guitar department was taken aback. There's something completely unique in Jason.
- Chris
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:45:19 +0300 From: Emre Topuzoglu <Emret@ispro.net.tr> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Metropolis 2000 - Chicago, 13/02/00 MP3 ! Message-ID: <38DFAC3F.30C522A8@ispro.net.tr>
check this url http://yourmajesty.free.fr/multimedia/music/music.html
you can find the entire show,
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:28:09 -0500 From: "M. Emerson" <cthulhu@CYBERNEX.NET> To: "Ytse Jam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Upcoming Trip (NDTC) Message-ID: <006a01bf9822$960d0950$050310ac@pwcg.com>
greetings, all!
i may be traveling out to san francisco (from jersey) next week for some job training, and i was wondering if someone could fill me in regarding the parking situation out there (i've been told that parking is impossible to find and/or terribly expensive...) and what (if any) alternatives i may have to paying $20.+/day to park my rental car!!!
also, if there are any sights that that i absolutely have to see or anything else i should know about, please feel free to fill me in...
you can e-mail me privately with any and all info...
take care!
mikE emerson cthulhu@cybernex.net
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