YTSEJAM Digest 5414
Today's Topics:
1) Re: no radio play
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
2) Favorite Parts , my interpretation of TAMP's solo.
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
3) Glass Hammer
by Phil Carter <artoo@bellsouth.net>
4) Questions About Napster
by MTeiper@aol.com
5) RE: (no screeching) vocals
by "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
6) RE: Derek
by "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
7) THE most impressive section/segment
by "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
8) THE most impressive section/segment
by "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
9) Re: Derek, no flames, pls read Again :P
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
10) No screaming Vocals
by "Jack Szumski" <dtfanjack@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5412
by FlyingBlueDream@aol.com
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5412
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
13) I finally got my christmas cd!!!!!!!!!!!
by "Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
14) Re: Destiny's End/2 other reviews
by "Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
15) Free Overture 1928 Band score
by "The Mad Tabber" <themadtabber@hotmail.com>
16) HOB Broadcast -- please someone try to tape it
by "The Mad Tabber" <themadtabber@hotmail.com>
17) Re: no radio play
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5412
by Fett2002@aol.com
19) first caller wins!
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
20) Re: Glass Hammer
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
21) Re: Questions About Napster
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
22) Re: guitar warmups
by Fett2002@aol.com
23) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5413
by Fett2002@aol.com
24) DR1029 @aol.com - bad trader!
by Toneadd9@aol.com
25) Re: Favorite Parts , my interpretation of TAMP's solo.
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
26) DT in ex-yugo :)
by Matej <izolit@siol.net>
27) I looked over Jordan and what did I see?
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
28) Prog bands
by funkygroove30@webtv.net (Robert Denni)
29) HOB recording
by Emre Topuzoglu <Emret@ispro.net.tr>
30) Stop your Bitchin!!!
by "tomas valodka" <tvalodka@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
31) AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:47:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: no radio play
Message-ID: <20000330234706.28685.qmail@web503.mail.yahoo.com>
> rock radio stations not playing DT is a complete
> travesty.
> i consider DT "big" but do if they really wanted the
> exposure to go sky
> high wouldnt that mean they'd have to "sell out" a
> bit??
> DO they even want to get mega mega popular. who
> wouldnt?
> they've stayed faithful to themselves this long, why
> change now?
I don't understand this message. You seemed to go
thru denial of DT's lack of popularity then, by the
end of the message, reconciled with it.
But let's face it, the closest DT came to "selling
out" for more radio play was with songs like "Anna
Lee" (sort of) and while it's not bad at all IMHO (the
song I mean), DT aren't capable of writing a song that
would get tons and tons of radio play. If I'm not
mistaken, PMU didn't even get that much airplay back
in the day. IMHO, DT are much better at writing the
kind of music that they do. They don't get played on
the radio and that's fine with me. I like DT being
the at the level of popularity they're at right now.
Either you now about them or you don't. And let's
face it, if DT were as popular as the Backstreet Boys,
there's no fucking way Mike would be on this mailing
list. As it is, he responds every now and then and I
think that's cool. Let's leave things as they are.
With all due respect...
=====
*Trent
AIM- el trento or PageRiff
ICQ- 65190048
Napster- cybertrent
Is this the part where I'm supposed to say something funny?
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:51:36 -0500
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Favorite Parts , my interpretation of TAMP's solo.
Message-ID: <38E3F698.35521032@yunque.net>
One of my favorite DT moments is JP's solo in take away my pain. I feel it
captures the wild range of emotions that go on when youre in that situation. I
dont know if im right, but see it this way, listen to it and think about this:
the first part of the solo (before the fast part) fits with the feeling of pain
and despair you feel when you know someone close is going to die, this leads up
to the solo speeding up and the fast flurry of notes, which would represent a
sudden burst of desperate anger and lashing out that
sometimes occur, then the solo winds down and concludes with an uplifting feel
that could represent the feeling of acceptance and of moving forward after one
copes with death. After thinking about it this way, i cant help but get choked up
everytime i listen to the solo. I know this interpretation(sp?) is purely
personal, but i thought id share because some of you might find it interesting.
Come into this night, Your plight alone
Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us
Come into this night, You only home
It)Bīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss
Opeth : Benighted
Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:16:35 -0500
From: Phil Carter <artoo@bellsouth.net>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Glass Hammer
Message-ID: <4.1.20000330190929.009f6d60@mail.atl.bellsouth.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids.......
Trevor H. inquired:
>> NP: Glass Hammer - Live and Revised (lim. ed.)
>What are they like? I've heard good things.
Funny you should mention that. :) Glass Hammer has strong ties to the prog
bands of the 70s and early 80s -- ELP, Yes, Genesis, early Rush, and so on.
Intricate musicianship with thought provoking lyrics. Some religious
overtones in their songs, but not often.
GH has a number of discs out including "Journey of the Dunadan", a concept
album based on Tolkien's work, "Perelandra", alluding to C.S. Lewis' "fairy
tales for adults" series, and more recently "On To Evermore", another
concept disc continuing the Perelandra story. "Live and Revived", a
limited-edition release of only 1000 discs, features live stuff, outtakes,
and unreleased material.
Glass Hammer's new disc "Chronometree", a true salute to the Moog and
Mellotron-heavy music of prog's heyday, is on its way and should be out in
a couple more days. Feel free to check out the website at
http://www.glasshammer.com/ for information about the story, interviews
with the band, MP3 sound samples from previous discs, ordering info, and
lots more.
cheers,
Phil
(who moonlights as the GH webmaster, incidentally) :)
==================================================
Phil Carter -- artoo@bellsouth.net -- http://www.glasshammer.com
"Music, the greatest good that mortals know / And all of heaven we have below."
-- Joseph Addison
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:00:02 EST
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Questions About Napster
Message-ID: <48.36fe925.26155292@aol.com>
Hey gang -
With all this Napster talk of late, an internet correspondent of mine keeps
trying to get me to sign up with them. He says it's awesome and that I'll
love it, but he has yet to clearly explain exactly what it is. I went to
their website, but they don't really have any kind of document that I know of
saying exactly what it is and exactly how it works. The "What Is Napster"
link just says crap like "hey, just think, all the MP3's you could ever want
at your fingertips, blah blah blah, download here!" No details about what's
involved. Can any of you out there provide me with some basic info? What
exactly am I downloading? Is it just the MP3 browsing software? I'm also
always leery about registering with websites... especially in this case where
I may be obtaining illegal MP3's. Also, is it free to download as many as I
want, or do they charge you? Will me signing up mean that anyone else with
Napster can see my entire hard drive when they search for MP3's? (Damn, I'd
hafta hide all my porn, then! ;-) ) Is it the type of thing where you
upload MP3s to a Napster server, then when you search for them, you're
actually only searching the server? What kind of legal ramifications are
there for publicly uploading/downloading MP3's? Sorry for all the questions,
but you get the idea. Private e-mail would be fine, unless you think the
answers are Jam-worthy. Thanks in advance!!
Laterz... Matt T.
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:10:50 -0500
From: "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: (no screeching) vocals
Message-ID: <NDBBIKGKKLCGJMPIJKOKEEEPCAAA.agoldman@bates.edu>
Let's not all forget Styx!!!! Great shameless 80's prog...
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:10:51 -0500
From: "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Derek
Message-ID: <NDBBIKGKKLCGJMPIJKOKGEEPCAAA.agoldman@bates.edu>
>FII is a DREAM THEATER album. They probably would have written it
>(or somthing very similar) whether or not Derek was in the band. For my
>money, on the FII tour Derek's sound and playing (as well as all the
>cool clothes) were the best thing the band had going for them. And I LIKE
>FII.
I don't don't know if this is entirely true. Although I do agree that that
FII is a Dream Theater album (and a generally good album), I do think that
Derek had a strong influence on DT, mostly in the straight-ahead rock themes
in FII. Derek is also very "pop" culture, which could possibly explain the
attempt to write radio friendly tunes...
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:20:53 -0500
From: "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: THE most impressive section/segment
Message-ID: <NDBBIKGKKLCGJMPIJKOKAEFACAAA.agoldman@bates.edu>
Oh, and I forgot one more: when JP broke into Amaizing Grace during his
solo on the SFaM tour.
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:20:52 -0500
From: "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: THE most impressive section/segment
Message-ID: <NDBBIKGKKLCGJMPIJKOKOEEPCAAA.agoldman@bates.edu>
Definitely the end of Fatal Tragedy...The deadly guitar and keyboard riff
might be the most killer, kick-your-ass moment of any song I've heard in a
long time. Also, To Live Forever gives me chills, as does S-DV (see? it's
catching on already)
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:31:21 -0500
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Derek, no flames, pls read Again :P
Message-ID: <38E40DF8.F61DC988@yunque.net>
The Honorable Ari Goldmann wrote:
> I don't don't know if this is entirely true. Although I do agree that that
> FII is a Dream Theater album (and a generally good album), I do think that
> Derek had a strong influence on DT, mostly in the straight-ahead rock themes
> in FII. Derek is also very "pop" culture, which could possibly explain the
> attempt to write radio friendly tunes...
I dont know man, portnoy himself has said it was (if i remember well) a time of
transition, and between the label's pressure and what not they themselves did
this. Its been established that Derek's bigger contribuitions to the band were
in New Millenium, LITS and Hells Kitchen, the former and latter being the
closest to what , by most people's standards on this list, is the DT sound.
Hell, id blame the poppier tunes on FII on Mike and JP first! To think that the
new bandmember had such an impact on their writing is ridiculous. We all know
how portnoy describes himself as a HUGE control freak when it comes to
DT's music, do you think that if he himself wasnt happy (at the time) with the
direction the album was taking, he wasnt going to move things his way?! I mean
could you really imagine Derek, the "new" guy taking over the writing and
recording sessions? I dont think so.. --
Come into this night, Your plight alone
Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us
Come into this night, You only home
It)Bīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss
Opeth : Benighted
Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:41:55 -0500
From: "Jack Szumski" <dtfanjack@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: No screaming Vocals
Message-ID: <82C4C86744604D11DA6D00807C90262A@dtfanjack.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:44:51 EST
From: FlyingBlueDream@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5412
Message-ID: <3f.2baf4ce.26156b23@aol.com>
In a message dated 3/30/00 6:19:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< on the Sci FI genre I also recommend "City of Lost Children" the french
movie directed by the same guy that did alien 4 (city of lost children is
my favorite sci fi movie and I didnt like alien 4)
>>
I always thought that "City of Lost Children" could be turned into a
pretty killer concept album. Maybe with Trent Gardener overseeing it.
Andy B.
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:16:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5412
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000330190702.9872A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Al the Ytse-Pit-bullicus wrote:
>>P.s. Whatever happened to all those deadly Pit Bull
>>dogs we used to see on the news every night several
>>years ago? Did they just disappear?
>
>Nope... I have a 13 year old Pit. He's NEVER bitten anyone.
>
My aunt had a pit bull as well... a lovely dog, never hurt anyone --
she never taught him to hurt or anything stupid like that, so he was
perfectly safe, until he walked out on the deck of the house, and bit
my sister (eight at the time) on the jaw, clamping down. He shook her
for about ten seconds, then let go, trotted back into the house, and
laid down. My sister required 80 stitches (the best work I've ever
seen -- barely any scars, even though her jaw as open to the bone when
he started).
He was a good dog for 99.9999999% of his life... unfortunately,
0.0000001% of his life involved ripping my sister's jaw apart. it was
also the last 0.0000001% of his life (give or take a 30 minute ride to
the vet).
That only served to solidify in my mind the russian roulette nature of
pit bulls, or any dog big enough to bite with impunity. That's why I
like Daschunds; boots are protection enough.
--Matt
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:36:38 -0400
From: "Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, <dtifc@yahoo.com>
Subject: I finally got my christmas cd!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <001f01bf9ac2$5367aea0$0101a8c0@JonDoe.prtc.net>
Hello jammers!!! I am extremely excited 'cause I finally got my christmas
cd!!! So, if you happen to still be waiting for yours, it might get there
someday! It's unbeleivable that it took so long for it to get here, but it
did. That's it. Bye!
Alexis
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:49:38 -0400
From: "Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Destiny's End/2 other reviews
Message-ID: <004601bf9ac4$2450b600$0101a8c0@JonDoe.prtc.net>
Somebody wrote:
Two other cd's I just bought I would recommend.
Vision Divine-s/t
Looking at the cover, I would guess it was Death/Black Metal, but
it is really good progmetal, kinda SymphX/Stratovari-ish. The singer
and production aren't the best, but all around a good disc.
Bonus Points: By-the-book cover of Europe's The Final Countdown.
I write:
Funny you say that the singer isn't the best, because that happens to be the
side project of Rhapsody's lead singer, Fabio Lione. I consider it curious
that it's the lead singer's project but it's him that you don't like. I
happen to think he's a great singer, but that's just my opinion.
Alexis
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:09:02 GMT
From: "The Mad Tabber" <themadtabber@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Free Overture 1928 Band score
Message-ID: <20000331040903.36221.qmail@hotmail.com>
Come ye, come all ...
The MadTabber has made available the band score for Overture 1928. In case
you don't know what that is, transcriptions for keyboard, guitar, bass, and
drums for Overture 1928.
"How much does this cost?" Nothing ... just because the MadTabber loves the
Dream Theater community.
"How do I get it?" Simple ... go to the Petrucci Files website.
"Where is that at?" Don't know by now?! Ok, here it is:
http://www.snowhill.com/~bvaughn/petrucci.htm Look under the TAB section.
Remember to click on the white rabbit.
Enjoy!
The MadTabber
More fun stuff coming to the Petrucci Files! Stay tuned!!
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:12:28 GMT
From: "The Mad Tabber" <themadtabber@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: HOB Broadcast -- please someone try to tape it
Message-ID: <20000331041228.69003.qmail@hotmail.com>
I was at this concert, and would love for someone to try and tape it. I'll
even help pay for the price of the concert.
]From what most have said, I'm not sure if the video will work out or not.
But it seems like the audio might.
In any event, I would love to get my hands on either ... and unfortunately I
am out of town this weekend. Otherwise, I would try it and share it with
the Jam as some CD or video tree.
So, please someone try!!
And even if the quality is not the best, I'll be willing to go in with you
if you will send me a copy.
Let me know,
The MadTabber
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:30:27 -0800
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: no radio play
Message-ID: <38E429E3.E5277C62@ucla.edu>
> rock radio stations not playing DT is a complete travesty.
> i consider DT "big" but do if they really wanted the exposure to go sky
> high wouldnt that mean they'd have to "sell out" a bit??
> DO they even want to get mega mega popular. who wouldnt?
> they've stayed faithful to themselves this long, why change now?
I kind of like listening to relatively unknown bands. It's nice to be
different, to have friends come over and not recognize any of the bands
I have albums from. Some time last year Eckie told us the charming
story of seeing someone at ASU with a DT shirt on.. I think he went and
attacked the guy outta pure joy :) I'm still waiting for that day, but
for now I'll be happy with the compliments on my NIN and Tool shirts.
It's nice to hear a prog or metal band I like on the radio every once in
a while, but I'm glad they aren't played to death like some of the new
Metallica, the stuff with the SF Symphony. I am sick to *death* of some
of those songs.
~~Amanda
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:36:46 EST
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5412
Message-ID: <70.20863eb.2615855e@aol.com>
<< Peruvian Skies = Vanessa
SFAM = Victoria >>
hmmm...maybe Vanessa=Victoria??? Sorry.....couldn't resist.
-Mike C.
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:47:13 PST
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: first caller wins!
Message-ID: <20000331044713.77937.qmail@hotmail.com>
or, since I ain't planning on handing out my phone number on this forum, the
first person from the continental US to send me an e-mail at ahtrap@iwon.com
gets something for their trouble....
(certain restrictions apply, of course)
Partha
p.s.: Dream Theater rules
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:52:19 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Glass Hammer
Message-ID: <004501bf9acc$f4c30290$260d84d0@default>
> Funny you should mention that. :) Glass Hammer has strong ties to the
Strangely, whenever I see the name Glass Hammer I picture Philip Glass
and Jan Hammer. hehehe. God help me, that thought makes me cringe.
heheheheh.
I have nothing against Jan Hammer but I think Phil Glass is what
motivates Postal Employees to kill.
-- KorgX3 has always been afraid that's what Glass Hammer is.------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:51:42 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Questions About Napster Message-ID: <004401bf9acc$f3e6fa70$260d84d0@default>
I think the world needs to know about Napster. :)
Hell, I don't mind it at all. You don't have to give out any personal information other than your *cough* dad's name and *cough* hotmail address. :)
As far as using it, you just go to search, type in the band name you're looking for and it will submit for your approval what songs are being distributed through the current server. Just make sure you're downloading from a high bandwidth guy and presto. :) Instant MP3's. I've only used it for rarities thus far, but it would be a handy tool to use for people looking to listen to other bands they've never heard before.
All it is is a small program you install that works basically like you described: A search engine for MP3's. Just one word of warning: don't list your MP3 directory in the spot where it asks you to. I did that and it uploaded a list of 2000 of my MP3's. Withing seconds I was the most popular person on the server. Having only a 56k modem, I was beleagured and had to kill everyone. :P If I have songs for people to check out, I put them in a separate directory on my hard drive. Otherwise the leeches will suck your bandwidth dry.
File transfers occur through the napster servers, but, just in case, I would think you'd be smart to use some sort of firewall/nukenabber type of software. Not that I do, I'm an idiot. :) -- KorgX3 doesn't know much else about Napster.
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:01:29 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: guitar warmups Message-ID: <78.354d376.26158b29@aol.com>
Mikel << Sorry if that was too long, but there's a certain amount of fun in warm ups... >>
Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it. -Mike C.
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:10:10 EST From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5413 Message-ID: <3f.2c05e96.26158d32@aol.com>
<< I'm singing wait for sleep in a few days, and I've been doing it acapella. However, when I went /w the accompianist, we found that the music in the book (the guitar book ) is WRONG! The bass and accompinament parts are off. Can someone help me with this? >>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the tab for A Fortune in Lies on the ST home page also wong? -Mike C.
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:07:51 EST From: Toneadd9@aol.com To: epigram@onelist.com, jhough@syslabs.com, powerofomens@hotmail.com, Subject: DR1029 @aol.com - bad trader! Message-ID: <aa.3275541.26159ab7@aol.com>
here is the name of a bad trader for you to add to any list you may know of. any questions ask me, i will give ya the whole story. basically i sent him 3 bootleg videos of bootleg quality and one semi pro quality, and a cd. he wasnt satisfied w/ the quality , so he never sent what he promised , " a great package", nor sent my stuff back though i asked him repeatedly. now he is saying i am being added to a bad traders list? whats wrong w this picture? anyone w any suggestions or bad/ good traders list please let me know. t.
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:19:04 +0300 From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Favorite Parts , my interpretation of TAMP's solo. Message-ID: <38E45168.129AAA17@yahoo.com>
"Carlos A. Alfaro" wrote: > > One of my favorite DT moments is JP's solo in take away my pain. I feel it > captures the wild range of emotions that go on when youre in that situation. I > dont know if im right, but see it this way, listen to it and think about this: > the first part of the solo (before the fast part) fits with the feeling of pain > and despair you feel when you know someone close is going to die, this leads up > to the solo speeding up and the fast flurry of notes, which would represent a > sudden burst of desperate anger and lashing out that > sometimes occur, then the solo winds down and concludes with an uplifting feel > that could represent the feeling of acceptance and of moving forward after one > copes with death. After thinking about it this way, i cant help but get choked up > everytime i listen to the solo. I know this interpretation(sp?) is purely > personal, but i thought id share because some of you might find it interesting. >
Carlos, I never really thought about it at that little details, but that solo has *always* been a huge emotional ride for me... As has the whole song actually. I think I relate to JP's feelings, as my mother-in-law (who was like a real mother to me at times) passed away, same, because of cancer...
I will think of your words the next time I listen to that song, even now that I'm thinking about it, it makes total sense (okay, not really sense, but you know what I mean..)
- Jaska aka Winger
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:05:50 +0200 From: Matej <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT in ex-yugo :) Message-ID: <38E3B39D.468EC586@siol.net>
Luckily, they'll come to Slovenia this summer, according to the official homepage. All I have to say is... ABOUT FUCKING TIME :)) I travelled all around the europe to see them on various tours and it's gonna be a real treat having them in my backyard :)
Looks like John P. is keeping a promise he made to a little, ignorant, but very enthusiastic girl who made him promise that they'll come :) And I'll get to give him the copy of his clinic, which is long overdue. I'm a lazy ass :)
DT in ljubljana...... FUCK YEAH!!!!!
Matej, sleepless in Ljubljana
>> You're the only one having that problem. I live in Yugoslavia and I suppose that they're not coming here, either. They have never been here before, so I don't think they'll be coming (although I hope they will). I think that fellow, CyberDuke, won't be seeing them neither, he lives in Macedonia.
Marko Randjelovic Yugoslavia (KG)
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Date: 31 Mar 2000 10:29:44 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: I looked over Jordan and what did I see? Message-ID: <20000331102944.3372.qmail@whitfield.chek.com>
>]From: <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> >Subject: Derek > >video of the waking up the world tour, right when they >end TTT and start to jam, that derek just starts to rip >it up on the piano doing some stuff hat really rocks. >I enjoyed that a whole lot more than to hear JR solo >over the chord progressions > >his playing style. In summation, I really enjoy Jordan >Rudess when he's just playing behind the band, his >string sounds and piano accents are excellent - behind >the band. But each time the man plays a solo, or the >spotlight is turned over to him, I cringe, i really do,
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllll....
I mean, I do know what you mean. He has even more of a habit of going over the top than JP - if (as Alice Cooper once opined) Derek is the Caligula of the Keyboards, then Jordan is definitely the Steve Vai of keys. Except he's a far better composer than Vai, but y'all know what I mean.
That said, I really like his solos. I tend to be more interested in the keys than the guitar, because to be honest, JP doesn't do it for me anymore. I know exactly what to expect - the legato runs and the flurries of speed picking, and at least one bit of sweeping. JR and KevMo (yes, and Derek) are more interesting soloists to my ear right now, even if JR's solos on SFaM aren't a patch on the ones he played on LTE 1 & 2.
>From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> >Subject: the Metropoli > >Or more importantly, is there any conncection between >METROPOLIS 1 and SFAM? >;^)
Snigger... None that I've found!
~Simon NP: Killing Joke, "Love Like Blood"
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:08:05 -0500 (EST) From: funkygroove30@webtv.net (Robert Denni) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Prog bands Message-ID: <15936-38E4A335-9251@storefull-286.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
For the on looking for prog bands with no screeching, I would suggest you try Emerson , Lake and Palmer , and Yes. John Anderson's vocals are high, but don't screech . Also try to find stuff that the so called "classic" radio stations don't play. For ELP get Brain Salad Surgury and for Yes try close to the Edge or Fragile.
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:52:34 +0300 From: Emre Topuzoglu <Emret@ispro.net.tr> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: HOB recording Message-ID: <38E4ADA2.68ED2BE5@ispro.net.tr>
Anyone will try to videotape HoB Cybercast from europe !!???!?!, i know someone from US will record it , but it would be great if some Pal versions can be found.
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:27:26 -0500 From: "tomas valodka" <tvalodka@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Stop your Bitchin!!! Message-ID: <BFEE927937604D11DA6C0005B813E913@tvalodka.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Could we please stop the Derek bashing? Newsflash: HE'S GONE!!!!!!! Trade in FII and get something else. He's not my favorite either. I.M.H.O. he just wasn't the best fit for DT, and I'm MUCH happier with Jordan myself. But he did great stuff on FII, Planet X, and Platypus. Don't like him? Avoid the afore mentioned albums. God, what was this place like when Derek was actually IN the band??? Favorite moment? Several from each album, but on SFaM I'd say the "Ragtime on Crack" bit (as it was so appropriately described), the "Arabesque" parts in Home, and I've decided to have "The Spirit Carries On" played at my funeral. Just in case I die. I plan on living forever, but just in case. Offtopic here: Anyone know what Trevor Rabin is doing? Does he have a new "Progject" in the works? To tie in to the Matrix thread, was it his name I saw in the credits for the score? Or was that another flick? Good Prog MP3 sites? Anyone? Help.
NP:"Maritime Murder" by Into Another
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Date: 31 Mar 2000 14:41:06 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! Message-ID: <20000331144106.4669.qmail@musone.chek.com>
ISn't it fucking typical?!
I can't go to DT @ Rock City becasue I'm at NUS Conference all week - in fucking Blackpool!!!!
I'm only going to be able to get to the Manchester one by sheer luck, and I'll STILL have to leave it at 11pm on the nose!
ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Oh well, I suppose I never was really that keen on hearing that medley live anyway... :(
~Simon
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