YTSEJAM digest 5484

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Sun May 21 2000 - 00:06:58 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5484

    Today's Topics:

      1) DTIFC X-mas CD's
     by Scarred2112@aol.com
      2) Joe Satch Question
     by Abu Shams Ahmed <shams@drik.net>
      3) maddening thoughts (boo!)
     by MusicSnob@aol.com
      4) Who
     by rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
      5) Modern Drummer Reader's Poll
     by rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
      6) CD Tree
     by "Chris Elder" <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
      7) pain in 5/8ths (and 5/12ths) (all at the same time)
     by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
      8) Dali's Dilemma and Ayreon
     by Zack1183@aol.com
      9) Vai / SRV
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     10) Ayreon and the Cali Guitar Trio
     by Jay Omega <jomega@minn.net>

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 00:17:56 EDT
    From: Scarred2112@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: DTIFC X-mas CD's
    Message-ID: <79.44feab9.26576bf4@aol.com>

    [They could either be an unwanted copy....]

    ROMFLMFAO!!!! "An unwanted copy"!!!

    Good lord, I haven't laughed that hard since James wore the "Puffy Pirate
    Shirt" at Irving Plaza in May of '97. ;)

    Back into lurk mode, I s'pose.

    scarred2112
                   

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:19:45 +0600
    From: Abu Shams Ahmed <shams@drik.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Joe Satch Question
    Message-ID: <392674D1.67BEFCD8@drik.net>

    Hi All....

    Just got the Engines of Creation from Satch. As before, he just blew me away. Now, I have a question for you Guitar Guru's in the list....In Power Cosmic II, the main riff - is it done by sweep picking or by two handed tapping (a la Mystical potato head, Stu Hamm stuff). At first I thought it was sweep but now that I listen to
    it more... it seems more like some two handed shit.

    Those who haven't heard it yet ....Joe's gone Techno.

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:31:54 EDT
    From: MusicSnob@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: maddening thoughts (boo!)
    Message-ID: <68.3b3c9f0.2657dfba@aol.com>

    I just got a few discs in the mail. Preliminary thoughts:

    Jag Panzer - TTTT

    Hey, this sounds pretty good. I have to say that this disc blows the past
    two away. It doesn't sound cheesy at all, which is a fear I had for such a
    "concept." Thank god for no "Nightfall in Middle-Earth" narration. I think I
    am going to need more time to digest this one.

    Opeth - Still Life

    The first song scared me with the goat vox, but then things chilled out and I
    started digging it, man. (Scooby Doo, where are you) I need more time on this
    one, too.

    Royal Hunt - Paradox

    I didn't realize I had already heard pretty much this whole cd since I have
    the double live cd. Doesn't sound too different from the live album, really.
    I should have bought Moving Target I guess. DC Cooper rules, though those
    topless pictures, them I could do without.

    Platypus - Ice Cycles

    The opposite of synergy. More is less. Subtraction by addition. Whatever.
    Platypus doesn't suck, but they are thisclose to forming a vaccuum. Ty, stick
    with Doug. Please.

    Stratovarius - Infinite

    /me cues Droopy the dog: You know what? This is exciting.

    Why do I keep buying this shit? It's not bad. It's not good. It's a product.
    A brand name. You know what you are getting. Bah. Bad cd buyer, bad cd buyer.

    By the way, that Jag Panzer artwork sure isn't going to sell any records in
    this neighborhood :-(

    Kevin

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT)
    From: rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Who
    Message-ID: <20000520145055.29208.qmail@web114.yahoomail.com>

    I'm a big Who fan, and got to see them on the first of
    their last tours (81 or 82). I liked Tommy when it
    first came out because it was the first time I got to
    see them play. The album is tremendous, but I feel
    the movie didn't do the story justice. I can't
    remember the director's name, but I don't think he was
    the best choice. He also directed a movie on Mahler
    which was God awful. I haven't seen the Tommy
    musical, but from what I've seen, I think it
    represents the story the way it was meant to be (well
    at least Townsend said so).

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:02:59 -0700 (PDT)
    From: rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Modern Drummer Reader's Poll
    Message-ID: <20000520150259.27577.qmail@web106.yahoomail.com>

    I got the latest Modern Drummer with their readers
    poll and MP is all over it. He topped the
    Progressive, Recorded Performance(SFAM), Clinician,
    and Educational Video(Liquid Drum Theater)categories.
    Just thought you would be interested and
    congradulations Mike!

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:21:41 -0400
    From: "Chris Elder" <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: CD Tree
    Message-ID: <002801bfc27f$de5c76a0$711e56d1@chriseld>

    How and where do you get on this CDTree? I definately want in on this.

    -On Woodstock-
    Try and catch VH1's new 'Rock Story' show. It is incredible, far better
    than behind the music. And that show is great. Anyway they did a piece on
    violent concerts, and spent 15 mins on Woodstock '99.
    Everthing was sooo expensive, everyone was out of money long before Sunday
    nights show. So Limp Bizkit just through gasoline on the fire. $5 for 1
    bottled water? Not that I condone violence(esp. at a show about peace) but
    the promoters got what they deserved. Instead of making a buttload of money
    off millions of kids, they ended up losing money in damage.

    -side note- (more on MP3s)
    I believe that it depends on what program and how you convert the .wav's as
    to the pop. I've got a few,(the Woodstock full performance shows) that
    sound incredible. No pops, no distortion, nadda. Not sure how they were
    done though.

    -What does everyone think of the CD price fixing supposedly being over?-

    -chris

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 10:36:27 PDT
    From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: pain in 5/8ths (and 5/12ths) (all at the same time)
    Message-ID: <20000520173627.97937.qmail@hotmail.com>

    >There was also a phone call between Devin and Fredrik >Thorendal of
    >Meshuggah who have both expressed interest >in a possible collaboration and
    >hope to pursue that >possibility when their schedules allow.

    I'm getting a polyrhythmic headache just thinking about it....

    Partha
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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:47:38 EDT
    From: Zack1183@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Dali's Dilemma and Ayreon
    Message-ID: <6.63b4e18.265829ba@aol.com>

    Just wanted to chime in on the Dali's Dilemma discussion. It was my second
    ventre into the "past Dream Theater" prog. My first was Shadow Gallery's
    Carved in Stone (which I was disappointed with then but have come to love
    now) and I really thought that Dream Theater was the end-all.
    But I found Manifesto for Futurism and it saved me because I love every track
    on there with the exception of Hills of Memory because it makes me think of
    U2.
    So I can owe my vault into buying cds that you cant find in NRM's to Dali's
    Dilemma. :-)

    But to what I actually wanted to post about. Is the new Ayreon album out? If
    not, when and where can I get it when it comes out? If so, where can I get it?

    Zack

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:37:31 +0200
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Vai / SRV
    Message-ID: <3926DB6B.57D49B3A@mol.com.mk>

    > From: EvoReaper@aol.com
    >
    > Steve is obviously one of the most creative musicians
    > in the world.

    Amen to that!

    > Every one of Steve's records is just another stroke of
    > genius and creativity..

    I can't wait for his next album. How far can he go? When Vai will
    experience lack of creativity as most of the old timers? :)

    Jethro Tull, U2 - some of my all time fave bands, the music they make
    now makes NOTHING to me. It's garbage, in case of JT the music isn't
    interesting anymore, the creativity is gone. It's fairly good
    for the genre they play, but something is terribly missing. I don't
    think any
    sain old JT fan would like their new stuff.
    BUT, JT and U2 will always remain gods for me.

    > who else would record a cat having an orgasm?

    Hmmm, which song would that be?

    > Frank Zappa hired him for Christ's sakes, you don't even have
    > to listen to Steve's music to know he's a creative as hell

    he-he, I like this one. :) Ah, ... Zappa! sniff

    > Jiboom does have a lot of SRV inspired pieces, but there are
    > also millions of Vai-Isms in the song.

    Definitely. This song is really what is says it is HAT TIP TO SRV! Whole
    sone ig pretty Vaish, except that main theme intro speed of light solo,
    which is obviously inspired by those Scuttlin' Buttlin' kinda tunes
    (lol, can't recall exact name of the SRV song)

    And the press conference in Sofia Vai said that he wanted to do such a
    song, but of course also "MORE IN MY OWN MANNER". Perfect tribute to
    SRV, original AND paying respct to SRV too. Actually for me the biggest
    similarity with SRV in the song is those crazy funky guitar chords
    kicking during the Mangini madness. THAT is SRV chording.

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    Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:32:34 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Jay Omega <jomega@minn.net>
    To: Just Words <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Ayreon and the Cali Guitar Trio
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005201522430.19267-100000@legarto.minn.net>

    On Sat, 20 May 2000 Zack1183@aol.com wrote:

    > But to what I actually wanted to post about. Is the new Ayreon album out? If
    > not, when and where can I get it when it comes out? If so, where can I get it?

    Not yet. June 20, 2000, on 'Inside-Out Music America.'
    Infos at www.ghostland.com and www.insideoutmusic.com
    You should be able to buy it from most of the usual
    online sources (Laser's Edge, etc).

    Also, someone mentioned the California Guitar Trio a
    day or so ago... if you dig them, you need to check
    out the Robert Fripp String Quintet, as well. It's
    the C.G.T., plus Fripp on electric guitar and Trey
    Gunn on Grand Stick.

    --Jay "mentions a 'grand stick' while listening to..." Omega
    --np: Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei

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