YTSEJAM Digest 5479
Today's Topics:
1) Re: My favorite Petrucci solo
by elmariachi@metallica.com
2) Online Biz #23D7
by "Peter Sanders" <ggmk@mail.md>
3) Mike's Sabians /Drummer Question
by Dave <sirdave@concentric.net>
4) Online Biz #1AAC
by "Peter Sanders" <ggmk@mail.md>
5) Reminder: Victor Wooten / Mike Mangini
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
6) Re: Victor Wooten / Mike Mangini - EVENT opens for Kings X
by EVENTdrums@aol.com
7) Re: Victor Wooten / Mike Mangini - EVENT opens for Kings X
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
8) Los Lobotomys
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
9) petrucci
by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
10) NEARfest Ticket available
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
11) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5478
by "crimson royalty" <phairgirl@hoe.nu>
12) Anyone in Boston?
by Lyle <lyle_k@yahoo.com>
13) Pat Badger of Extreme aand Jason Bieler of Saigon Kick FOUND
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
14) Vanden Plas number 1 in German radio charts!!!
by "Ties" <ties@rattenmonster.de>
15) CD Expansion
by loric.vilesilencer.ii@grnet.com
16) Re:sorry
by "chahram riazi" <cr79@hotmail.com>
17) Re: CD Expansion
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
18) "Home" and "Forty Six and Two"
by Dave M Klint <davek@mail.csh.rit.edu>
19) Miami
by MAD1661@aol.com
20) RE: "Home" and "Forty Six and Two"
by "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
21) Re: Eurovision
by Andreas Skarin - SDTS <sdts@sdts.nu>
22) SPAM
by Andreas Skarin - SDTS <sdts@sdts.nu>
23) Re: CD Expansion
by Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net>
24) Re: crimson glory question
by MTeiper@aol.com
25) Re:Los Lobotomys
by "Nissinen Tommi"
26) DT in Tokyo/Shibuya (15-5-2000)
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
27) Re: John Petrucci
by "Matej Grginic" <izolit@siol.net>
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Date: 15 May 2000 05:18:32 -0700
From: elmariachi@metallica.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: My favorite Petrucci solo
Message-ID: <20000515121832.9882.cpmta@c003.sfo.cp.net>
On Sun, 14 May 2000, EvoReaper@aol.com wrote:
> Ok, I just downloaded half of the live in Miami SFAM show
I apparently missed something...where is everyone getting this show from?
(I must've deleted the original note accidentally while blindly deleting the hundreds of Napster postings.)
Thanks in advance,
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 06:57:03 -0500
From: "Peter Sanders" <ggmk@mail.md>
To: let38s@mail.md
Subject: Online Biz #23D7
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Date: 5/15/2000 9:0
From: Dave <sirdave@concentric.net>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Mike's Sabians /Drummer Question
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Hey everybody,
Regarding Mike's new signature line of Sabian cymbals, I
was wondering if anyone has them, or has tried them out at
a drum shop? They STILL don't have them at my local drum
stores.
In particular, the "Max Stacks". I'm interested in
these, but I was wondering about their durability. I've
always played chinas inverted, and these are chinas stacked
on top of crashes/splashes. Would you damage the upturned
edges of these cymbals after awhile, seeing as though
they're not inverted? Seems like they'd be cracking, or
denting pretty quickly.
Maybe someone here has them, or knows some info. How
about Mike himself? He's been playing them the longest. Any
info would be appreciated.
Take care,
-Dave
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 06:57:03 -0500
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To: let38s
Subject: Online Biz #1AAC
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:36:57 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: bostonjam@dreamt.org, ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Reminder: Victor Wooten / Mike Mangini
Message-ID: <391FFD79.A1DDAFA2@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Daddy's Junky Music, 7PM, $10.
Monday night in Hartford, CT
Tuesday night in Peabody, MA
Wednesday night in Portsmouth, NH
http://www.daddys.com/wooten.shtml
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:46:58 EDT
From: EVENTdrums@aol.com
To: jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov, bostonjam@dreamt.org, ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Victor Wooten / Mike Mangini - EVENT opens for Kings X
Message-ID: <b2.533a617.265159d2@aol.com>
Hey Guys and Gals,
I will be at the Peabody Mangini/Wooten show on Tuesday. I will take this
opportunity to make an announcement:
EVENT will be opening for Kings X in July!!!!
July 29th The Station W. Warwick RI
July 30th Beach Club Salisbury MA
the salisbury show is all ages and the band is selling tickets. please
contact me if you would like to purchase them. Sunday at the the beach early
show, cant beat it!
Matt
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:59:23 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: EVENTdrums@aol.com
Subject: Re: Victor Wooten / Mike Mangini - EVENT opens for Kings X
Message-ID: <392002BB.3EBBCF5D@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
EVENTdrums@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey Guys and Gals,
>
> I will be at the Peabody Mangini/Wooten show on Tuesday. I will take this
> opportunity to make an announcement:
>
> EVENT will be opening for Kings X in July!!!!
>
> July 29th The Station W. Warwick RI
> July 30th Beach Club Salisbury MA
>
> the salisbury show is all ages and the band is selling tickets. please
> contact me if you would like to purchase them. Sunday at the the beach early
> show, cant beat it!
>
> Matt
Nice cop, dude! Hope I'm in the country ;)
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:06:56 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Los Lobotomys
Message-ID: <391FB020.79272720@mol.com.mk>
I finally got myself this music. For a long time I was searching the
wild side of Steve Lukather and sensed I can find it in his project band
Los Lobotomys.
I already had the Candyman, which is ummm, good, and shows the awesome
musicianship but the music itself contains too much ballads. So now I
got the first Los Lobotomys CD and Greg Mathiason Project - Baked Potato
Super Live!, which are more or less the same line-up.
BUT, I was pissed off when listenign the track 3 from LL CD - Purple
Haze. Steve just starts singing and then what you hear is like the CD
jumps at the end of the song, Steve say Thank you to the audince and
track finishes, track 4 continues. I THOUGHT the brand new CD jumped but
soon after saw that actuallyu the CD is pressed like that, the damn song
is only those 20 seconds or so. :(
Anyone else has this album? I got it from Japan, because most of this
stuf is only Japanese release.
Is it a mistake?
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:41:14 +1000
From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: petrucci
Message-ID: <39200C89.F9649783@alphalink.com.au>
I don't know about jazz. I think maybe jazz fusion which is kind of a different thing
completely. I think he would have ended up as a jazz guy if Dream Theater hadn't
taken off.
Chase up a copy of him doing this song Lost Without You. Its all over the net.
Its not exactly blues but same sort of thing. ts not exactly Stevie Ray Vaughan
or Albert King and it doesn't have the harmonic 'story telling' of BB King or Santana
but its some damn fine playing for a shredder if you ask me.
> > Bah. Petrucci is actually a trained jazz guy, and you can hear it in
> > his playing. I'm sure Petrucci knows and loves the Blues, and I know
> > he could play it iof he wanted. It's not that hard to play the blues,
> > and 99.9% of the soloing is done out of teh Blues scale, which I've
> > heard him use a plethora of times. Just because he doesn't play it
> > doesn't mean he can't appreciate it or know it.
>
> A perfect example of how well he can play blues is in that LiT To Live
> Forever. He plays some interesting blues figures at the end of his solo;
> it's quite interesting to hear him playing that kind of stuff.
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:19:59 -0400
From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: NEARfest Ticket available
Message-ID: <20000515111959.A29311@optical.mindstorm.com>
Dear boys and girls:
I have 1 ticket for NEARfest available, because a friend backed out.
It's in the Orchestra section, so it's $72 (what I paid for it).
Which means that we ought to get a good view of Anna, Anekdoten's
cellist. (Schwing!) The buyer will need to figure out transportation
(unless you live on LI, in which case we can split gas and tolls) and
lodging. The show is Saturday, June 17th and Sunday, June 18th, in
Bethlehem, PA. (More info at http://www.nearfest.com/nearfest).
-d
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:16:52 -0500
From: "crimson royalty" <phairgirl@hoe.nu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5478
Message-ID: <000101bfbe88$fac66940$c02d0b18@dubuq1.ia.home.com>
> > This guy who just roofed our house was named Kevin Moore
>
> LOL, I have never seen a bunch of folks so much obsessed with a certain
> group of people. :)
> Dreaming them, noticing every single person that has even minimum
> similarities with the above mentioned ones etc ... weird stuff.
I have a serious Kevin Moore problem. I work for a company that is
contracted with AOL, and every so often, when someone starts spelling their
name and it's Kevin and the last name starts with M, I stop breathing for a
second.
It's so damn pathetic.
The e-mail that I sent to two of my close KevMo fan friends after I
pre-ordered the new Chroma Key album was very very
9-year-old-girl-at-a-Backstreet-Boys-concert-like. I don't know why, it's
just this Kevin Moore problem that I have. Nobody or nothing else.
I even dedicated my e'zine to the guy: http://www.anada.net
I think I am sick and have some kind of disease, because I accidentally made
my friend this way as well. Christ, and I'm 23 years old. On Thursday.
--phairgirl
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e-mail: phairgirl@anada.net
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:39:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lyle <lyle_k@yahoo.com>
To: queensryche@egroups.com, thmleng@egroups.com, ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Anyone in Boston?
Message-ID: <20000515173938.15641.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com>
Hey All-
I'm in Boston on business and was just wondering if anyone in
the area wants to get together for a beer or somethin'. I'm
staying downtown, so if you're in the area, respond to me
privately and we'll hook up!
Lyle
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:57:41 -0500
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Pat Badger of Extreme aand Jason Bieler of Saigon Kick FOUND
Message-ID: <20000515.125823.-59391.10.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
I picked up SUPER transatlantic, not be confused with Transatlantic
today. I was weary because I heard SUperdown (American Pie soundtrack)
but the record version is more beefed up. Its infectious groovy hard
rock, Jason's voice is as strong as ever, and you can really hear old SK
in it. As for Pat Badger I can't even recognize him in the picture. I
also picked up Spock Bear Day For Night today, I am VERY impressed with
this band.
Kurt
NP-SB Distance to the Sun
"damn I need a new signature now"
me after reading ytsejam 5456
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:17:50 +0200
From: "Ties" <ties@rattenmonster.de>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Vanden Plas number 1 in German radio charts!!!
Message-ID: <E12rPS5-0001fX-00@mx2.freenet.de>
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! It happened!!!!!!!
Today the new Vanden Plas single "I Don't Miss you" (a ballad of course)
went up to number one in the charts of Radio RPR1, one of Germany's
biggest radio stations!!! Right before Britney Spears, Tote
Hosen, Bloodhound Gang and 3. Generation!
For more info check out http://www.vandenplas.de !
I still can't believe it!!!!!!!
Ties
-- Vanden Plas - The Web Thing: http://www.vandenplas.de Progressive Genius Webring: http://www.progmetal.org/ring/------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:30:42 -0500 From: loric.vilesilencer.ii@grnet.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CD Expansion Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.20.5.15.15.30.42.3050823104.4492277@cyberspace.grnet.com>
Needed: Advice on which albums to buy from certain progressive rock bands in order to avoid making a mistake. An example of "mistake" would be "Carved in Stone" by Shadow Gallery, THAT was a mistake! Also the TSO album I bought centered around Beethoven, THAT was an even bigger one!
I've never bought anything from Marillion, Symphony X, or Spock's Beard, mostly because it is very difficult for me to find any CD's by any of these bands. No operatic vocals, please.
Thanks in advance! /_oric
"They taste like burning!" -Ralph Wiggum
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:04:57 GMT From: "chahram riazi" <cr79@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:sorry Message-ID: <20000515200457.6200.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Sorry folks. I wasn't paying attention and didn't realize until after >I replied that this spam came through the ytsejam. So sorry to waste >your >e-mail space with my feeble attempt to remove myself from wherever >that >junk came from. >
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No! No! No!
You are not supposed to reply to spam! They will notice that you have an active e-mail account and will just add you to their mailing list!
Once upon a time when I was more naive I replied to a spam with the witty remark: "Fuck you and all those that think like you" And now I get sometimes 20 spam e-mails a day :-)
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:24:38 -0300 From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: CD Expansion Message-ID: <000701bfbea3$3632aa60$37351ec8@yunque.net>
> Needed: Advice on which albums to buy from certain progressive rock > bands in order to avoid making a mistake. An example of "mistake" would > be "Carved in Stone" by Shadow Gallery, THAT was a mistake! Also the TSO > album I bought centered around Beethoven, THAT was an even bigger one! > > I've never bought anything from Marillion, Symphony X, or Spock's Beard, > mostly because it is very difficult for me to find any CD's by any of > these bands. No operatic vocals, please. >
Symphony X's vocals can be considered operatic, although the singer doesnt go too high, he sounds more like eye of the tiger type vocals heh. The music is heavy power metal, with a touch of neo classical and prog. Spocks beard has these pleasant type happy 80's type of vocals, and the music is old school prog with lots of keyboard, its not heavy, its mostly happy sounding/being in a good mood type of music. Marillion, all ive heard sounds boring and puts me to sleep..
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:06:12 -0400 From: Dave M Klint <davek@mail.csh.rit.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: "Home" and "Forty Six and Two" Message-ID: <20000515210617.5331D158@mcp.csh.rit.edu>
I've wanted to get into Tool for a long time. So now that I have some extra cash to blow, I bought The Aenima album. The album started pretty good, but then I got to the track entitled "Fotry Six and Two" and the first thing I noticed was that the intro starts out EXACTLY like "Home." In fact, the whole song does in a way. The song even has a growing instrumental in the middle similar (while nowhere near as cool) as the Home one. I grepped the ytse archives and noticed that one one other mention has been made of this. A jammer named Jason Birzer even made a little audio file comparing the two (http://members.aol.com/DarthMetze/study.mp3). Aenima came out in 1996, SFAM in 1999. Did DT rip off the riff? Has the band ever been asked about that in an interview?
I ask these questions just to get feedback. I know that some DT members are Tool fans, and as we all know, music isn't created in a vacuum. It's also a very basic riff, and I've heard it in a lot of songs. I'm not accusing DT of being unoriginal or anything, I'm just wondering if it's ever been brought up before. Any comments?
-davek
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:24:56 EDT From: MAD1661@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Miami Message-ID: <e2.46e394c.2651c528@aol.com>
OK did i miss the web page to get Miami Live .... Just wondering
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:49:53 -0400 From: "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: "Home" and "Forty Six and Two" Message-ID: <NDBBJOAJEBLELDIGIBGMMEIKEGAA.td4235@ship.edu>
> I've wanted to get into Tool for a long time. So now that I have > some extra > cash to blow, I bought The Aenima album. The album started > pretty good, but > then I got to the track entitled "Fotry Six and Two" and the first thing I > noticed was that the intro starts out EXACTLY like "Home." In > fact, the whole > song does in a way.
Now that you mention it, last weekend I let my friend listen to Home and he said the same thing. He couldn't remember which tool song it was, but i have Forty-six and Two on right now. That must have been the song he was talking about. It does sound like the exact same riff for awhile. You heard DT first and he heard Tool first and you both said the same thing. If DT didn't rip it off on purpose then that is pretty amazing cause they are so similar. And if they did, who cares. I wonder if DT has ever done any Tool covers. That could be interesting. -Tim
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:54:12 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin - SDTS <sdts@sdts.nu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Eurovision Message-ID: <39207204.6FF2FF15@sdts.nu>
CyberDuke wrote:
> > Our 4 lil' girls (Macedonia) song was IMHO much better that the most of > the songs, but the missies were nervous and made some mistakes during > singing live.
Indeed they did. Like singing out of key for the ENTIRE song (!)
:oP
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet http://www.sdts.nu - mailto:sdts@sdts.nu
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:02:39 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin - SDTS <sdts@sdts.nu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SPAM Message-ID: <392073FF.1C9FEBB8@sdts.nu>
chahram riazi wrote:
> No! No! No! > > You are not supposed to reply to spam! They will notice that you have a= n > active e-mail account and will just add you to their mailing list!
Here's a good article about spam:
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:55:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: CD Expansion Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10005151852480.9568-100000@vineyard.ecosoft.com>
for a good taste of hogarth try Made Again. It has a nice mix of songs on it AND brave =)
For Fish era Personally I'd recommend Misplaced Childhood and Script for a Jester's Tear. The last 2 Marillion CD's weren't that pleasing to my ears. But thats a matter of taste.
The new TSO album is pretty damn good to me, bout time they did something else besides xmas music. Speaking of Savatage I'd recommend Wake of Magellan and Dead winter Dead.
On Mon, 15 May 2000 loric.vilesilencer.ii@grnet.com wrote:
> > Needed: Advice on which albums to buy from certain progressive rock > bands in order to avoid making a mistake. An example of "mistake" would > be "Carved in Stone" by Shadow Gallery, THAT was a mistake! Also the TSO > album I bought centered around Beethoven, THAT was an even bigger one! > > I've never bought anything from Marillion, Symphony X, or Spock's Beard, > mostly because it is very difficult for me to find any CD's by any of > these bands. No operatic vocals, please. > > Thanks in advance! > /_oric > > "They taste like burning!" > -Ralph Wiggum > > >
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:44:40 EDT From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: crimson glory question Message-ID: <9a.4d8785e.26520208@aol.com>
In a message dated 05/14/2000 6:44:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< i seem to remember something about extra songs on the first album, but don't recall whether there was more stuff on the cassette version or the CD version. I have the CD, and if the extra songs are on the cassette, I'd appreciate someone identifying the tracks for me. >>
AFAIK Partha, there was a version of their first album with the song "Dream Dancer" on it. I *think* it was on the cassette version, but I'm not positive. The tune also appeared on the B-Side of the "Lonely" CD-Single. I don't think there were any other extra tracks associated with the first album other than that one. You may want to poke around their official website (www.crimsonglory.com) to see if you can find out any other info.
Laterz... Matt T.
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Date: 16 May 2000 06:33:00 +0300 From: "Nissinen Tommi" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Los Lobotomys Message-ID: <JA8AAAAAALI6CgABYQADbpMOAcxU@kesko.fi>
>BUT, I was pissed off when listenign the track 3 from LL CD - Purple >Haze. Steve just starts singing and then what you hear is like the CD >jumps at the end of the song, Steve say Thank you to the audince and >track finishes, track 4 continues. I THOUGHT the brand new CD jumped but >soon after saw that actuallyu the CD is pressed like that, the damn song >is only those 20 seconds or so. :( > >Anyone else has this album=3F I got it from Japan, because most of this >stuf is only Japanese release. >Is it a mistake=3F
I have that cd too and it has same "fault". They play only a short while th= at Purple Haze. And i bought that=20cd from a regular cd-store here in Finland.
-Tommi
np: NIGHTWISH/Wishmaster
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:58:45 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT in Tokyo/Shibuya (15-5-2000) Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D34011BFC62@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
Two words. Holy Fucking Fuck !!
Having seen the Met2000 show a couple of times already, this show was a stunning surprise. I had to be one of the most outspoken critics of the recent shows but these concerns were addressed last night. Specifically, the multi-media showing of the new CD was at it height. Sadly, this will only be possible for the Japanese audiences.
The Japanese record company supports these guys to the hilt. One criticism of the Met2000 tour was that the multimedia presentation was not that effective with a bunch of 19 inch Sylvania Supersets plunked on top of the speaker towers. Well over here, they had a true full-size video screen behind them !! Yup, the size of the O:M tour !! What an amazing difference this makes. Everything looked so professional. Entirely a different world.
Secondly, they cropped a bunch of the more cheesie video portions from before and augmented this with live shots of the band on the video screen. Each member had a small camera placed near them and this was fed - realtime - to the large screen. These cameras were very unobtrusive - it looked like a small microphone these tricky Japanese ..... Some of these live shots were even processed realtime with video effects. This worked really well. They left the better portions of the original video basically responding to feedback from prior tourdates.
Lastly, they modified the introduction and used a tape of James singing the intro. It was just JP and Jordan playing in low lights before the Overture started. I think that this worked very well. This allowed for a more dramatic opening to the show than previous shows which is a big plus in my book. I think that each show should start with a bang. It really helps to get the crowd involved. They could have gone even one step further and open like they do with with Crimson Sunrise (all taped) but this was still cool.
Some random thoughts:
1) For the life of me, I cannot fathom how polite the Japanese crowds are. When Jordan plays an acoustic piano bit, you couldn't hear a peep from the crowd.
2) They dont sell beers at the venue. Yucko. Parched throat. May help to explain #1, above.
3) A similar thing was done with THE whereby the drums in the beginning were taped. This didn't go over as well because to me, MP should have been playing it. As a bonus, the song was extended a bit which was cool. JP wanked a bit at the end and kind of killed the mood of the song but hey, are you going to tell the cheetah not to run ??
4) Not being a proponent of medleys, after the 100 minutes of Met2 I wasn't keen on the remaining 30 minutes being filled with *two* (count 'em) of the suckers. The first was a mush of stuff from Awake/ACOS/LTE and the second was the same one from the European leg last fall. I understand that this was probably how they had to do this to get coverage from all albums after Met2, but I hope that future shows allow for more coverage of the back catalog. There is too much good stuff there.
This has to be the ultimate for the band in terms of a technical achievement. When they envisioned a multi-media show, this is what they had to have had in their best of dreams. It is just too bad that the only audiences that will see this are here in Japan.
As a nasty aside, the Jap version of THE is selling for US$20 breaking the Jap tradition of US$14 CD singles !! Yucko !!
Cheers, Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:49:17 +0200 From: "Matej Grginic" <izolit@siol.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: John Petrucci Message-ID: <001c01bfbf13$a507d120$0600005a@siol.net>
> Not to flame Petrucci, hes a great guitar player, but how the hell > can he claim Stevie Ray Vaughn to be one his influences. John > wouldn't know the blues if it bit him in the ass.
Well it's not just the blues that SRV has to offer. It was his playing attitude, chord selection, his rythmics, vibratos, bends.. One doesn't have to play a 12bar to get heavily influenced by these things. And John obviously IS, not just because he says so, but because it's obvious.
Matej Grginic
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