YTSEJAM Digest 5487
Today's Topics:
1) Partha?
by Lyle <lyle_k@yahoo.com>
2) Subject: Kings X possibly delayed...?
by WhoFooldU@aol.com
3) Boring!!
by "Ricardo Testa" <ricardotesta@hotmail.com>
4) Melody, Keyboards, Metallica
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
5) Jimi
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
6) Baseball music, Eastern-sounding music
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
7) Super Transatlantic
by "Jason Gelnett" <jgelnett@matsci.com>
8) New CD's coming up:
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
9) Album reviews: Platypus and Flower Kings
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
10) new Crimson
by TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU>
11) Eric Johnson
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
12) Planet X
by Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5486
by IAmClay777@aol.com
14) OOMPH!
by Chris <cdaley@gmu.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5486
by DoubleJay54@aol.com
16) Re: Melody in music and vocals...
by MTeiper@aol.com
17) Anyone want a Japanese copy of the Through Her Eyes single?
by crow <crow@carr.org>
18) The Hypnotherapists nose whistle.
by WoodyTJ34@aol.com
19) Re: Jimi Hendrix/Metallica
by Fett2002@aol.com
20) Re:Napster
by Fett2002@aol.com
21) tool
by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
22) This was on the NightWish email list
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
23) NIGHTWISH comments about lyrics
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:28:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lyle <lyle_k@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Partha?
Message-ID: <20000523052854.2233.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com>
Sorry for posting this to Da Jam:
partha: please send me an email. I need to speak with you.
Lyle
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:42:11 EDT
From: WhoFooldU@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Subject: Kings X possibly delayed...?
Message-ID: <2b.60a1e88.265b7433@aol.com>
Nope, not a chance :) I just bought the CD tonight at a midnight sale at my
local record shop. Yes, I was the only person who bought that disc at the
midnight sale...how fucking sad is that? Oh well, the big seller of the
evening was the new Eminem disc followed closely by the release from "A
Perfect Circle"
Thank You and Goodnight,
Glenn
NP: King's X - Please Come Home...Mr. Bulbous
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:19:22 CEST
From: "Ricardo Testa" <ricardotesta@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Boring!!
Message-ID: <20000523111922.52194.qmail@hotmail.com>
I have a question......
Are these YtseJam Digests always these boring? My God, I have only been
subscribed for about a week and none of the Digests that I have received
have absolutely nothing to do with Dream Theater or good music. What gives?
Ciao,
Ricardo Testa
PS: What are those "NP"s at the bottom of some posts? I am guessing "now
playing"??? If so, who cares?
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:01:54 -0400
From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Melody, Keyboards, Metallica
Message-ID: <20000523110154.A8500@optical.mindstorm.com>
On 2000-05-22 at 21:19 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com
<ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:
> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 02:17:21 -0400 (EDT)
> From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
> Subject: Melody in music and vocals...
>
> So, since I'm always on the lookout for new bands, what bands
> do other Ytsejammers think have this elusive "melodic" ability in
> their music *and* vocals? Of course, this is totally subjective,
My first thought, when I got to this part of your post, was Faith No
More. Totally not progressive, but totally ass-kicking rock. The
man-made-instrumentalists (is that PC enough to not piss off Steve Z?
:) really know what they're doing, and Mike Patton really does use his
voice as another instrument, creating melodies that complement the
music. And their lyrics are always top notch.
Others that come to mind are Spock's Beard, Genesis, Anthrax (if you
want something heavy with good melody, especially Persistence Of
Time), IQ, ... there are others. I'll have to go look through my
collection at home.
> and it will probably consist of people's best-of lists, but it's
By the way, this isn't my best of list (which would include a lot of
King Crimson and related projects (or ProjeKcts :), but which more
often than not concentrates on breaking the rules of rhythm and
melody, rather than adhering to them).
---> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 07:41:55 -0700 > From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com> > Subject: 21st Centruy Satch > > Wow. I went to JS Friday night in Seattle, 5th row center. I had never seen
I saw the same show at Manhattan Center about a month ago. Trevor's account of the show is dead-on. If you get a chance to see this show, go.
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> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:17:44 -0500 > From: loric.vilesilencer.ii@grnet.com > Subject: Keyboard Information > > So my question is to any and all keyboardists out there, what are the > superior brands? Is there even a significant difference between Korg and > Roland, for example? Any and all information will be much appreciated!
I'm not a keyboardist, but I'll tell you how my keyboardist feels about his gear.
Alesis QS 7 -- This is his main work horse. He gets all his pianos, the majority of his organs, and his non-lead synths out of this one (with two expansion cards). He runs it in stereo, and has some really cool sound effects when he cranks up the Leslie simulator, or uses some more techno-y effects.
Korg N5 -- He hates it, and wants to sell it. It's got some decent lead synth sounds, but the organs and pianos all sound like shit. (You probably shouldn't conclude from this that all Korgs are shit, but he hates this board.)
Roland JP 8000 -- The lead board. Holy crap, he coaxes some amazing sounds out of this thing. It's apparently very easy to configure the sounds on this (I wouldn't know), because he has created patches that sound nothing like what came with the thing.
HTH. YMMV.
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> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:18:45 PDT > From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> > Subject: metallica animation > > Hey all. That metallica animation was TOO funny. The more I learn about this > lawsuit, the more I hope BOTH sides lose, but the portrayal of James and > Lars was just too good =^)
I laughed my nuts off at that one. :) K-Rock (the "all the new, crappy, heavy stuff, and the occasional track off Ride the Lightning" station here in NY) played a song last week. I didn't really catch who had created it, whether it was a staff member or a listener. It's called "Napster of Puppets," and it's freaking hysterical. "Napster of Puppets/Downloading your things..." :)
-d NP: Mr. Big/Get Over It (the new one. I miss Paul Gilbert already.)
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:22:13 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jimi Message-ID: <392A9415.A5C50BAB@mol.com.mk>
> From: DoubleJay54@aol.com > Subject: Jimi Hendrix > > Track 11 on Electric Lady Land, by Jimi Hendrix is a great song. its > called 1983 a Merman I Should Turn To Be, Well, if you listen closely > to it, the chord changes in the begining are very similar to The > Unforgiven by Metalica. And then this guitar harmony starts in, > and its the same damn harmony Metalica uses in Unforgiven, > only a few very small notes different.
Hmmm, only the first 2 chords seem same, but this is reaching out too far I think. I don't think it's Jimi ripoff ... they're both quite different. Metallica has many reasons to be bashed about I believe, but this is not one of them. :) Unforgiven is a great song.
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:38:09 -0400 From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Baseball music, Eastern-sounding music Message-ID: <20000523113745.A10968@optical.mindstorm.com>
By the way, I thought you would all be interested to hear some of the musical selections at Saturday's Mets-Diamondbacks game. As batters come to the plate, music is played over the PA, I guess to pump the batters up to do better. (And it worked.) In the third inning, as Mike "Kurt" Hampton stepped to the plate, they played Rush's "Limelight" (and Hampton hit a two-run single). Later that inning, as Mike Piazza came up for his second plate apperance, they played Iron Maiden's "Powerslave." The Mets won, in spite of their idiotic manager, and it made the three-and-a-half-hour rain delay worth it. (Yes, I stayed for the whole rain delay, and then the three hour ball game. I think the beer guy knew me by name at that point.) Anyone (Cole?) know if the players pick that music themselves?
Oh, on a totally unrelated note, someone a while back asked about music that had Eastern influences in it. I think that Powerslave might qualify.
-d NP: King Crimson/Cirkus: The Young Person's Guide to King Crimson Live
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:52:47 -0700 From: "Jason Gelnett" <jgelnett@matsci.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Super Transatlantic Message-ID: <862568E8.00571828.00@msc_nt2.matsci.com>
Hi all, I just picked picketed up Super Transatlantic. Some of "us" were talking about it the other day. Anyway, for those who missed it, it is the return of Jason from Saigon Kick with drums from the dude from Extreme (who name escapes me). Not a bad disc at all. Some really good tunes. For those of you that record "in home", there is a liner note that talks about the CD being done on a Pro Tools Studio. I thought that was kind of cool. I'm a Cakewalk user myself. Anyway, if you want to check it out, buy.com has the damn thing for $9.99. Great vocals and guit from Jason (if you liked his past works). A very good disc with god awful cover art. Oh yea, the title of the CD is Shuttlecock???? If you want a listen, their song from the American Pie soundtrack is almost ALWAYS on Napster. If anyway else has checked this CD out let me know. C-Ya. Jason
NP- Larry Carlton - fingerprints
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:03:43 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New CD's coming up: Message-ID: <20000523.120418.-23003.2.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
Guys we need $$$$$$$$$$
I was thinkingt about all the new stuff coming out in the next few weeks:
King's X Iron Maiden Galactic Cowboys Poison Motley Crue Stuck Mojo (Which I am looking foward to more than anything) Fates Warning Dave Matthews Band (rumored) Queensryche Greatest hits (Im only buying for the free Promised Land CDROM)
umm....anything I missed?
Supposedly the new Megadeth is coming out June 24th, I doubt it seriously though.
Kurt needs money.
Kurt
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:26:04 -0400 From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: Ytse Love-In <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Album reviews: Platypus and Flower Kings Message-ID: <20000523152604.A18102@optical.mindstorm.com>
I went massive CD shopping this weekend, and brought back 10 victims from the kill. I haven't listened to them all yet, so there might be some more reviews coming down the pipe. The new Mr. Big kinda disappointed me (because of Kotzen, more than anything), but I got the latest Niacin, so that should tide me over when I get around to listening to it. Other CDs that are still shrink-wrapped are Jadis/Across The Water (thanks Henderson and others!), DT/THE single, and Iron Maiden/Wicker Man single. I listened to Crimson/The ConstruKction of Light (but not enough to review it yet), Crimson/Cirkus, and Brand X/A History: 1976-1980 already (and reviews may follow), but I have to tell you all about the two purchases that have made me say "Holy shit!" so far.
Platypus/Ice Cycles
I hope I missed all the positive reviews about this disc, because I don't remember seeing any. Let me preface this review by saying that I'm not the biggest fan of either Derek or Myung. They're both great musicians, and I appreciate their talents, though I didn't think Derek fit in DT, and as good as JM is, there are about a dozen other bassists that have been more influential to me. I'm also not a huge KX fan -- not that I dislike them, I just haven't heard a whole lot of it (though I do like most of what I've heard, except Dogman). And I wasn't thrilled with "When Pus Comes To Shove". So, I basically bought this disc because I like Rod.
Holy friggin' crap! This disc is phenomenal! The groove reached out from the CD player, grabbed me by the short hairs on the back of the neck, and forced me to appreciate. This is, in my estimation, primarily a rock album, with some odd times thrown in to make you pay attention. And pay attention I did. Derek and John are, to my pleasant surprise, very tasty on this disc. They play a lot, and do it well, but don't overplay. Ty sounds great, and Rod is just Rod. :) Overall: 8/10. I recommend this one to anyone who likes good rock played by professionals.
Flower Kings/Flower Power
Gehhhhhh. I don't even know how to begin writing about this one. I had heard the name Flower Kings mentioned once or twice here, or maybe somewhere else, and wrote them off because they have a sissy name. Then I bought Transatlantic/SMPTe, and decided it was worth it to give them a shot, sissy name or no sissy name. As I write this sentence I'm thirteen tracks in, and I think that my other reviews are going to have to wait a while. The only reason I can see to open the CD player any time soon is to switch from disc 1 to disc 2.
Roine Stolt has a very unique voice. Sort of baritone-y, his English comes across with an accent I haven't heard before (I guess it's Swedish). It took me a minute to get used to (because I'm a stupid American), but it doesn't detract from the sound overall.
And overall this recording is a masterpiece. In these first 13 tracks, I've heard a tip of the hat to 70s Yes and Genesis, 80s prog elements from the likes of IQ and, as they tell me, Pendragon and Marillion, and some good plain hard rock influence, as well as a very gothic mood piece with what sounds like a church choir over synths and a rain storm. The first song, "Garden of Dreams", covers the first 18 tracks, and I can tell that I need to sit with this one and absorb it, because it was crafted with care. I'm so blown away by this I can barely think of words to describe it. Each instrument is a complement to the whole, although each player also gets a chance to show off. Mmm, enough writing. I have to get back to listening to this. 8/10. -d
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:27:42 -0600 (MDT) From: TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: new Crimson Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000523132445.19044B-100000@ucsub.colorado.edu>
Just a heads-up to all that the new King Crimson album, "The ConstruKction of Light," is available as of today (5/23) in the US. I'm on my second listen to it now, and I think it's fantastic, but opinions of this have varied quite a bit on the KC list, from considering it their best work in decades to bitter disappointment.
If you don't know KC, well, you should, but suffice it to say, the guy looking for good tunes that he can tap his feet to probably wouldn't want this album.
--matt
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:01:52 -0400 From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Eric Johnson Message-ID: <20000523.170155.-962885.1.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>
Anybody know if Eric Johnson's got an official web page or anything? All I've been able to find are fan pages and www.ericjohnson.com has been "under construction" for quite some time.
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:21:18 +0200 From: Totikus <totikus@gmx.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Planet X Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000523232118.007ab920@pop.gmx.net>
Hey Jammers, I was wondering about your opinion on Derek Sherinian's first Planet X CD -- I really liked the stuff he did on ACOS, FII and OIAL, so do you think I'd enjoy Planet X? Could someone send me their own review or describe the style a little bit, esp. what DT stuff it is most similar to? Thanks, Totikus
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:26:17 EDT From: IAmClay777@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5486 Message-ID: <b8.6180050.265c5179@aol.com>
We just had this same type of discussion about DT and Tool. This may or may not be a coincidence, but who cares? So they've written a song that may or may not have been influenced by JH. So what? For that one they've written countless awesome originals. I can understand that people are pissed off b/c of the Napster thing, but this kind of insulting is pathetic.
<< hey jammers, i just noticed this the other day and thought it to be very odd. Track 11 on Electric Lady Land, by Jimi Hendrix is a great song. I think its called 1983 a Merman I Should Turn To Be, but im not sure. Well, if you listen closely to it, the chord changes in the begining are very similar to The Unforgiven by Metalica. And then this guitar harmony starts in, and its the same damn harmony Metalica uses in Unforgiven, only a few very small notes different. Wow, and their going after Napster, maby they should write their own songs before complaning that they loose money off of it. Any other JH fans hear what im talking about? >>
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:00:23 -0400 From: Chris <cdaley@gmu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: OOMPH! Message-ID: <392AFF76.9271378D@gmu.edu>
Well, I'm not German...well maybe a quarter. But, I really like Oomph!. I believe they have six albums out. Correct me if I'm wrong. Their first self-titled album was terrible...terrible like KMFDM's first album...if you can imagine that really early industrial sound. Their second was (maybe?) Sperm and that was a great improvement. Following Sperm (maybe?) were Defekt, Wunschkind, Unrein and Plastik. Wunschkind is my favorite. It's just really heavy, and I dig it. Unfortunately I haven't heard Unrein. I suppose I could classify them as industrial-metal, if that genre exists at all. Although Plastik (their latest) is a lot mellower. The guitars are heavy. The vocals range from clean to growly but not too growly. There are three members: Dero, Flux, and Crap. Gotta love that name. :> Half of the songs are in German and half in English. Perhaps they're a cross of Samael, Rammstein and KMFDM and Die Krupps and Ministry. I'm not sure what your definition of weird is, but I don't think they're weird at all. I recommend you get Wunschkind and buy the rest as you please. Their official web site is http://www.oomph.de . There isn't a lot of information on it, but there's a links page with a bunch of fan sites on it. I hope this helped a bit.
Chris.
> From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Oomph! / Glass Hammer > > German 'jammers (or anybody who knows), question for you: > Anybody know anything about a band called Oomph! ? A German > friend-of-a-friend played a track of theirs for me a while back and I > remember thinking it pretty decent, sort of like a, to use a bad > comparison, cross between Rammstein and Mr. Bungle. Definitely in the > realms of the weird, at any rate. All the websites I've found for the band > have been content-less or in German.
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 20:06:38 EDT From: DoubleJay54@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5486 Message-ID: <43.52b9a1e.265c770e@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/22/00 11:15:53 PM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< P.S. Much of my favorite classical music also contains great melody (though I'm not really into opera so the classical I listen to doesn't generally have vocals). Pieces like Dvorak's 9th Symphony, Beethoven's 5th, 9th and really most of his stuff, Tchaikovsky's 1812, 4th Symphony >>
Beethoven's 9th has voclas
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 20:54:42 EDT From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Melody in music and vocals... Message-ID: <c9.513654a.265c8252@aol.com>
In a message dated 05/23/2000 12:16:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< So, since I'm always on the lookout for new bands, what bands do other Ytsejammers think have this elusive "melodic" ability in their music *and* vocals? Of course, this is totally subjective, and it will probably consist of people's best-of lists, but it's the only way to find the really good stuff. :-) After I get some feedback, I'll list some modern bands that I feel fit that category. >>
Steve, have you heard Shadow Gallery or Saviour Machine? They are 2 bands that popped right into my head while reading your post, and thanks the YtseJam recommendations, they're 2 of my favorites.
I know there is a sharp division in opinion regarding Shadow Gallery on the Jam. Some absolutely love them, and some absolutely despise them. Their music to me, both lyrically and musically, is some of the most amazingly melodic stuff I've ever heard. If you want to check out a sound file, there's an MP3 of one of my favorite songs by them ("Mystery") on the Music In Progress MP3 site:
http://members.aol.com/MIProgress
Their official website (www.shadowgallery.com) also has some more sound clips, I'm pretty sure. Definitely check out the album "Tyranny" if you like what you hear. IMO, it's as good a concept album as "Operation:Mindcrime" & SFAM.
Saviour Machine is amazing too. It's Christian gothic music, and it's VERY intense and melodic. I don't know where to find sound clips of them, but you can start by checking their official website: www.saviourmachine.com. I was absolutely BLOWN AWAY by these guys the first time I heard them. If you still can't find any sound files and are still interested in hearing them, drop me an e-mail... I may be able to hook you up with some MP3's or something if you have a place where I can FTP them to.
Hope this helps!
- Matt T.
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 21:36:18 -0400 From: crow <crow@carr.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Anyone want a Japanese copy of the Through Her Eyes single? Message-ID: <392B3212.5D88@ccpl.carr.org>
I have managed to aquire two copies of the Japanese version of the Through Her Eyes single with 5 tracks. I ordered it over a month ago from one particular website and after several weeks of waiting I got impatient, and ordered it from someplace else also. I was planning on just cancelling one order as soon as I got it from either place. Well wouldn't ya know it by the time one copy arrived, the 2nd had been shipped as well. Doh!
So needless to say, I have a brand new, still sealed in plastic with the obi strip and all, copy of Through Her Eyes for sale. This is the one that also includes the single edit of Home as well as the 4 tracks found on all other versions of the single. It also features live concert pics on the liner instead of what the others versions have(I haven't seen the others so I don't know myself whats exactly one them). If anyone would like to purchase it from me I'd be happy to sell it to someone for exactly what I paid for it. It wasn't cheap though. Those of you that already bought it know what I mean, it was $24. I will only ask for it what I paid plus actual shipping costs(approx 1.50-3.20 for US residents). Send an email to crow@ccpl.carr.org if you are interested, and I'll send it to you within 24 hours of receiving payment. Much faster than the service *I* got when I bought it. :)
I will wait a few days before I return it to the retailer for my refund in case anyone is interested.
I have heard word that just about EVERY night of the Metropolis 2000 Tour in Japan has been taped so everyone keep your eyes and ears open. There should be quite a few shows from this tour to pick up for the collection. ;)
Rock hard, ride free,
Chris crow@ccpl.carr.org
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 21:52:03 EDT From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The Hypnotherapists nose whistle. Message-ID: <4c.5df1e4a.265c8fc3@aol.com>
Here's the craziest thing. I was listening to SFAM really loud on random play. Track one started and the tick-tock thing was incredible at 3/4 volume. Then the hypno started to talk and I heard the funniest thing. He has a whistle in his nose. You know, like when a booger is just in the right position when to breathe to make a whistle?!?!? Well, I had to rewind the cd & listen again and that is exactly what it is. He says, " . . .With each breath you become more relaxed. (breath) (whistle)." It is hilarious. Then he goes on, "more peaceful and calm. (breath) (whistle {again})." Two whistles on the track. Check it out for yourself. You have to turn it up real loud. Hey, I figured a new discussion topic is needed. Napster is getting really boring. See ya, Todd
"I sit down with my son, set to see the Crimson Sunset."
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:23:24 EDT From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Jimi Hendrix/Metallica Message-ID: <15.4347ecc.265ca52c@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/23/00 12:15:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< hey jammers, i just noticed this the other day and thought it to be very odd. Track 11 on Electric Lady Land, by Jimi Hendrix is a great song. I think its called 1983 a Merman I Should Turn To Be, but im not sure. Well, if you listen closely to it, the chord changes in the begining are very similar to The Unforgiven by Metalica. And then this guitar harmony starts in, and its the same damn harmony Metalica uses in Unforgiven, only a few very small notes different. Wow, and their going after Napster, maby they should write their own songs before complaning that they loose money off of it. Any other JH fans hear what im talking about? >>
No offense but I think you're just reaching here, looking for a reason to get on Metallica. Hell, the chord progression in "One Last Time" was taken from Metallica's "Dyer's Eve"! And as many people have already posted, "Home" has nearly the same intro riff as Tool's 26 and 2 (I think that's the name of the song! LOL). -MIke C.
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:25:44 EDT From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Napster Message-ID: <11.41cbfd0.265ca5b8@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/23/00 12:15:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< I know I've downloaded a few Metallica songs in the past month or so, and I did lastnight as well, off of Napster....but I still have my IP...anyone know why? (Keep yer fingers still! Dont tel1) >>
Well, if they aren't studio recordings then it's cool. But if they are, then who knows. Maybe it just takes a little time to get to you or maybe it was a one time deal. -Mike C.
NP: Funky C Funky Do: "I Do Believe We're Naked"
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Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:17:30 +1000 From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: tool Message-ID: <392B57DA.9F63BB3B@alphalink.com.au>
Glad to see you came to your senses. If anyone hasn't heard Tool, do yourself a favour and check them out. They were one of the most creative bands to come out in the 90s. They've only got two albums and an EP out, and they've gradually got more progressive but you can't go wrong with any thing you buy. BTW. Don't expect anything technicaly amazing. The drummer is the only guy who can play half decent. But they are all very creative and the lyrics are awsome. The vocalist does yell a lot, but he yells with conviction.
> Man, I absolutely HATED the band Tool, with a passion. All their songs > sounded the same, slow in the verses with some feedback, usually double bass > patterns, then really heavy and a lot of yelling during the chorus. "Opiate" > has now made it into one of my top 25 Fav songs. My band just learned it for > a show coming up, and I can't wait to see the pits during > this....("Motorbreath", "Domination" and "Opiate", one after another...I want > to see an ambulance!)
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:50:32 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: <jmsouter@airmail.net> Subject: This was on the NightWish email list Message-ID: <002301bfc533$35cd1560$5e3588cf@jammer>
Nightwish - Despite fans and success still have a sense of humor and their feet on the ground.
Nightwish's gorgeous singer Tarja Turunen says the Wishmaster-album was easier than the earlier ones, even tho there were pressure for the bands third release, considering they had sold gold with their former records. The "pirat-hassle" previous to the albums release certainly didn't ease any of it either, but ends well, all well; Wishmaster went straight to number one on the saleslist and during the planned start of touring the band received gold for three single releases and the album "Oceanborn". " - All I can say now is "yippieee", that's how good it feels." Said by a happy Tarja.
Early spring [last year] Nightwish competed in the Finnish Eurovision trials and won the public vote, but didn't make it to Globen ["The Globe", Swedish concert-hall in Stockholm] in spite of favorisation from the audience. " - It doesn't feel that bad anymore, and we have to admit that thanks to the Eurovision-contest we were introduced to people who didn't know about us and our album Oceanborn got back in the top sales list. But we wont be returning for any more Eurovisions." Says Tarja Turunen.
During the spring and beginning of the summer Nightwish will be touring mostly in Finland and Mid-Europe to different [metal]fests and in June the band will make their very first South-American tour. Plans are to make at least one gig in Chile and Uruguay, two gigs in Brazil and Argentina and three gigs in Mexico. For Tarja, there will be excited fans waiting; some with marriage proposals. " - Its natural that male fans get excited, since there are so few women in this genre, but I use humor to deal with it. And of course there will be no travelling alone, because sadly enough there are fans with darker sides to them." " - All in all, you have to take all this attention with your feet on the ground, otherwise you wont make it far"
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:50:35 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: <jmsouter@airmail.net> Subject: NIGHTWISH comments about lyrics Message-ID: <002501bfc533$37dd09a0$5e3588cf@jammer>
Tuomas` comments about the lyrics of the new CD - WISHMASTER
SHE IS MY SIN
- A song about the hidden sins that everyone of us has, buried deep beyond comprehension.
THE KINSLAYER
- On April 20th, 1999 two teenagers, Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold went to Columbine High School, in Colorado with handmade bombs and shotguns, with intention to kill as many of their schoolmates as possible. As they entered the school, they started shooting and throwing bombs everywhere, killing 9 boys, 4 girls and finally themselves. This was carefully planned for over a year, and these guys were determined to kill also themselves afterwards. They had no real motive. They made a videotape in the morning just before the massacre where they said: " We are going to kill you all. You have been giving us shit for years. We want to say our sorry for our parents; There's nothing you could have done. This is something we must do. Were sorry, we didn't like life very much..."
The event is something I will never understand. If something as horrible as this can happen in this world, there's no sense, no truth to cling to anymore. I find there's a great deal of symbolism hidden in this happening. The dialogue in the middle of the song quotes the actual phrases between the killers and their schoolmates during the shooting. (According to those who survived)
COME COVER ME
- A rather simple lovesong. The feeling of waiting is often more fulfilling than the happening itself.
WANDERLUST
- It's a cliche that life's a one big journey. But that's the way it is. And there's so much to discover and experience on this planet . I couldn't bear the thought that I would have to live my life with the biggest experience being a one-week trip to Canary Islands after working in an office for one year straight. Routine kills everything. I wish people would find the "wanderer within".
TWO FOR TRAGEDY
- The biggest tragedies always require two...
WISHMASTER
- This is my personal tribute to fantasy, especially the closest to me; Tolkien & Dragonlance. These worlds have become a sort of inverted reality for me, where the story of "The Kinslayer" can't become reality... Moreover, I don't believe in this thing called "destiny". We are the masters of our own wishes, beliefs and dreams. Whatever you desire enough, it can happen. Destiny is an excuse for those who don't have the strength to fulfill their wishes. Everything is possible. Even the impossible.
BARE GRACE MISERY
- The dark side of the desire for love too often leads to tragedy.
CROWNLESS
- Arrogant, egoistic people make me sick! Those who have been given a crown but who can't carry it properly. Nothing is everlasting and the Fall can be very sudden. I think we all should keep that in mind and be proud of the things we have achieved in a positive way.
DEEP SILENT COMPLETE
- A Tribute to the mighty power of the Oceans.
DEAD BOY'S POEM
- This is the most personal song I've ever written. My testimony for the whole world. With this song I want to apologize everyone who deserves my apology. It also makes an "I don't care" -statement to them who deserve it. The song is also about what Nightwish means and has meant to me. It's all, without it I'm dead. I have created it and it has created me. When I pass away, this song's lyrics are of what I wish to be remembered. An Ocean Soul.
FANTASMIC
- A tribute to the king of fantasy. This is something I owed for Him...
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