YTSEJAM digest 5665

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YTSEJAM Digest 5665

Today's Topics:

1) Re: Empire, and how about some DTC?
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
 2) Anathema
by IAmClay777@aol.com
 3) Pain of Salvation
by "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5664
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
 5) Andrew's mom
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
 6) Flower Kings, Niacin
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
 7) refinancing, mortgage. etc 25412
by m20622@angelfire.com
 8) Any jammers from Columbus?
by op777@mail.surffi.net
 9) EVENT @ Club Fuel
by EVENTdrums@aol.com
10) DT Classic Quicky
by Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB <Daniel.Costello@rl.af.mil>
11) Saturday morning shredders
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:55:15 -0500
From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Empire, and how about some DTC?
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20001107155515.008d1100@mail.ptd.net>

>From: "Mariano Gil" <e301472@correo.unnet.es>
>Subject: Empire
>
>Just a miscelanous question: does anyone know why the cover of Queensryche's
>album "Empire" is so poor? The logo is plenty of ugly pixels.

It's because Queensryche are a bunch of cumguzzling man-twats, as was
evidenced this past summer.

DTC: How about some speculations on the next album? I know it's early for
it, but let's have some fun and bring some good DT content back to the jam.
What do you expect? What would you like to hear? Etc.

One thing I know I'd love to hear is a bit more involvement from Jordan, as
we all know he took kind of a back seat in the writing process for SFAM.
And I'd love to hear him do backing vocals with the rest of the band as
well (minus Myung, who can't even speak let alone sing ;). Another thing
I'd love and I've always wanted to hear from DT is bigger-sounding
orchestration (more guest musicians?) in the style of Angra or
Trans-Siberian Orchestra. And of course it's always cool to explore new
styles (as per the JP/JR acoustic show ... some of those ideas could have
even been expanded for DT material, IMHO).

I'm kind of excited to see how this one turns out also because the songs
will have individual identities, and there will be more freedom with the
lyrics and whatnot. I'd love to see a return to the older, better (IMO)
level of DT lyric-writing ... the lyrics from I&W and Awake have been the
most inspirational for me personally.

So what do YOU think the guys will come up with this time around?

Peace,
Brian

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:08:17 EST
From: IAmClay777@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Anathema
Message-ID: <42.cc3b034.2739e561@aol.com>

With all the talk of other "prog" bands, I thought I'd jump in to promote
Anathema, which is a totally amazing band. OK, so they're not progmetal, it's
more like a gothy version of classic Pink Floyd (Think Wish You Were Here
era), but their last album, Judgement, is fucking awesome! Great composition,
great performances, and just a really immersive atmosphere that conveys a lot
of feeling. Highly reccomended-Unfortunately it's insanely hard to find since
Anathema lost their US distribution right before this album came out.

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:24:18 -0500
From: "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Pain of Salvation
Message-ID: <003d01c04944$24c3f640$6e7c0b18@stcl1.mi.home.com>

Brian Hansen said:
> Check out "Entropy". They're prog metal in the vein of
> Queensryche, Fates Warning and DT. The singer has a
> pretty good range (tends to be lower than most
> prog-metal), and sings with lots of "emotion" or
> "emphasis" or "drama" or whatever the hell you want to
> call it. But it's good drama, like Geoff Tate in the
> early days. Pushing the boundry of drama without going
> overboard.

Actually it's "Entropia". ;)
Brian, I agree with all you said, but just want to clarify for the folks who
haven't heard PoS....... the great thing about PoS is that (unlike most
prog-metal groups) they do NOT sound all that much like QR, Fates, or DT
(they are definitely NOT clones!). Yeah, there is some influence there,
but it's definitely not that huge. That being said, Brian is 100% correct
in saying they are in the vein of those bands.

It's also worth noting that Pain of Salvation has a moderately strong Faith
No More influence. At least as far as their chaotic-nature, and (at times)
Daniel Gildenlow's vocal delivery (they don't however, have FNM's kinda
humorous/silly side).

Alexis said:
> To the person asking what Pain of Salvation sounds like, they sound very
> unique

Alexis, you've got that right! If I had to choose one word to describe the
band, it was definitely be: UNIQUE.

- Joe D.

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:37:05 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5664
Message-ID: <20001108.004317.-19683.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

How the HELL do they afford cd burners and computers?

<(Korgx3)He hangs out over on the MikePortnoy.com forum these days,
infecting a new crop of minds.>

Actually that forum is incredible, I have developed a ton of trading and
friendships there. FOr those who never go there I reccommend it. Mike
doesn't even read these anymore I think. He said in an interview that he
goes there to see what DT fans are talking about, and posts a lot
himself.

"titties and beer" Mike Portnoy 1987 rehersal video.

Kurtx3 remebers Korgx3, Mike posting on the jam and a young JP wiggling
his butt in front of the camera. Those were the days.

ytsekurt on AOL instant messenger
Trade page-www.geocities.com/Kurt_labrie/Startpage.html
"Shut the f*ck up. Don't make me come down there and kick your f*cking
ass"
-James Labrie 4/16/97

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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 18:32:19 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Andrew's mom
Message-ID: <3A098E23.1D0750B5@mol.com.mk>

> From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
>
> Myself, I would have measured out the precise locations of my
> couch, television, room depth, etc. to figure out where the perfect
> spot to place the speakers and the perfect spot to sit would be.

We're sure you would pal. ;)

LOL, speaking about childhood traumas...

> From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
> Subject: Some suggestions on these CDs please...
>
> Flower Kings - Alive On Planet Earth

Great band, great stuff, go get it. :)

> From: Orion82@aol.com
>
> Let's try our best to keep this list strictly to Dream
> Theater related matters.

hehehe, watch out there's a banana skin in front of you.
And errr ... welcome to Ytsejam?

> Because again, I'm sure most of you care less about the things
> that aren't related to Dream Theater type pissings.

Hey kid, since when selling a proggresive rock or Dream Theater CD is
not an Ytsejam topic?
Oh mine, how foolish of me, of course, this was Pain of Salvation
mailing list.

> Why would they care about my opinion?

Wasn't that whole post of yours an opinion about what you think the jam
should be like?

Geez ...

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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 23:56:56 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Flower Kings, Niacin
Message-ID: <3A09DA38.C2713B4B@mol.com.mk>

While still trying to recover from the shock these guys gave me, wanna
ask something.=20

I got "Edition Sp=E9ciale du Quebec", the whole concert (I think it's liv=
e
stuff) from NAPSTER <shields up #1>.
Is this some boot or fan materail since it is not in the official
discography?

P.S. That NIACIN VCD is one scary stuff!!! Some of the best jams I ever
saw. GO GET IT NOW!

BTW, some jammer contacted me about this VCD a while ago, I don't have
your e-mail amnymore, you can write me if you want, I have some news.

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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 23:19:51 -0700
From: m20622@angelfire.com
To: <kyblackman@aol.com>
Subject: refinancing, mortgage. etc 25412
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Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:21:59 +0000
From: op777@mail.surffi.net
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Any jammers from Columbus?
Message-ID: <0G3R0038H5P6Y6@discovery.fsp.fi>

Hey dudes...

Are there any jammers from Columbus... I need something you can only =
get from=20
there (or so I think) and if someone could help me out, I=B4d be very=
grateful.

Thanks,=20

op777

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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:52:18 EST
From: EVENTdrums@aol.com
To: event@dreamt.org
Subject: EVENT @ Club Fuel
Message-ID: <ee.cce4793.273c3042@aol.com>

Club Fuel
Dec 1 2000
Lowell MA
8pm
with Super Zero and Savannah

105 Market St. Lowell MA: Rt3 N to the Lowell connector. Thorndike St exit.
At the 6th Light take a right. Up on the left after the second light. above
the Blue Shamrock

Hope to see you all there!
Matt Scurfield
EVENT

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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:21:51 -0000
From: Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB <Daniel.Costello@rl.af.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT Classic Quicky
Message-ID: <D98BF3C61B66D311BA820000D11B4BDF01434592@FSJREZ03.adm.rl.af.mil>

The local Top 40 classic rock station has a contest every day at lunch where
they play short clips of three songs and the first caller to guess all songs
correctly wins lunch. Today's 2nd song was Pull Me Under. :-) It's nice to
see them play something other than boring crap.

-Dan.

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:30:38 -0500
From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Saturday morning shredders
Message-ID: <20001109.162941.-3872327.0.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>

>Was watching the show City Guys on NBC last Saturday
>morning (yea - a 27 year old watching teen shows
><SHRUG>). But the episode was about the guys forming a band. And
>in the background of one of the shots they had several
>band posters on the wall. Included was the cover from
>Fates Warning 'Still Life' and another poster covered up
>with the word 'Dream' showing - in Dream Theater font.
>
>Wonder if there is a prog fan on board that show?

I was watching one of those teen shows probably about 2 years ago,
and there was a guy on there (kinda like the Fonzy of the group) who was
playing a Jackson guitar. And he was PLAYING it. (I could tell he wasn't
faking it)
Maybe it's the same show.

-Dan.
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