YTSEJAM Digest 5640
Today's Topics:
1) Progressive Rock in German Radio!
by Roger Klambauer <roger@sfumato.de>
2) FS: a BUNCH of CDs/videos [updated 10.14.00]
by Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm@yahoo.com>
3) Bristol 16th October
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
4) AiC/Nirvana
by IAmClay777@aol.com
5) slide without slide?
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5639
by DoubleJay54@aol.com
7) Red picks and prog snobs.
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
8) Whammy Shredi
by EvoReaper@aol.com
9) Check out ProG Rock radio
by "The Wizard" <thwizard@bellsouth.net>
10) Re: Red picks and prog snobs.
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU>
11) Re: Whammy Shredi
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU>
12) Re: meeting DT
by mildew@ucla.edu
13) Kenny Wayne Shepard
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
14) Last two days to support prog metal
by CeaSerin@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:30:28 +0200
From: Roger Klambauer <roger@sfumato.de>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Progressive Rock in German Radio!
Message-ID: <39E835C3.3C1AA1D1@sfumato.de>
Hi jammers,
on Monday, 16th there will be a special broadcast full of progressive
music. The radiostation is HR-1 (Hessischer Rundfunk) and guests will be
Darmstadt's Progrockers SFUMATO (www.sfumato.de). The program will be
very much influenced by the band, so you can look forward to hear some
stuff from Dream Theater, Rush, Enchant, Kansas...
HR-1 can be received via UKW in the area of Frankfurt/Hessen or via
cable of Deutsche Telekom and Astra-Satellite:
Transponder Polarisation frequency ADR
40 vertical 11,0675 GHz 6,12 MHz
HU,
Roger.
-- ------------------------------------------------------------ Hunter or prey? You have the choice at http://www.sfumato.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:59:13 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: a BUNCH of CDs/videos [updated 10.14.00] Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20001014095913.0079c810@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
If you are interested in any of this stuff, email me at dantemm@netzero.net The videos are at the bottom. Thanks, Dan
+=3D=3D+ CDs for Sale. Prices listed by each item. Shipping is=20 INCLUDED. Discounts given for multiple items purchased.
For information, tracklist, etc on any of this stuff,=20 email me. I accept credit cards (through PayPal), checks, money orders. US or Canada only.
Alice in Chains, Live and Unreleased, 2 tracks, $4 Tori Amos, Star Profile, interview disc, 98 page booklet, $6 Tori Amos, Raspberry Swirl plus 2 remixes, UK import, $6 Atari Teenage Riot, 60 Second Wipeout, $6 Adrian Belew, Desire of the Rhino King, $6 Adrian Belew, Young Lions, $6 Ben Folds Five, Air single, 2 bsides, Japan import, $8 Burlap to Cashmere, Live at the Bitter End EP, $6 Kate Bush, Hounds of Love, $8 C+C Music Factory, Gonna Make You Sweat, $4 Caedmon's Call, 40 Acres with Austin Sessions, sealed, $12 Caedmon's Call, Austin Sessions (3 tracks), sealed, $6 Caedmon's Call, '97 Tour EP, 5 songs from the debut, $5 Rick Callender, Undone, acoustic-folk indie artist from Ft Wayne, IN, $6 George Carlin, Classic Gold, doubledisc, $12 dc Talk, Jesus Freak enhanced single plus 3 bsides, $4 Faith No More, Introduce Yourself (debut), $6 Faith No More, Live at the Brixton Academy plus 2 bsides, UK import, RARE, $15 Faith No More, Digging the Grave, 2 bsides, UK import, $8 Faith No More, I Started a Joke #1, 2 bsides, UK import, $8 Faith No More, I Started a Joke #2, 2 bsides, UK import, $8 Fates Warning, Chasing Time, collection, $6 Fates Warning, Perfect Symmetry, $6 Flesh, Flesh (Paulo Bettencourt & Marcus Cherone), $6 Marty Friedman, True Obsessions, $6 Iona, Heaven's Bright Sun, official double live, $12 Jars of Clay, Crazy Times plus 3 bsides, enhanced video, $5 Jars of Clay, Drummer Boy EP, $4 King Crimson and Various, Sometimes God Smiles: The Young Persons' Guide to Discipline III, $5 King Crimson, B'Boom, official 2CD live in Argentina, $12 Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds, Live at Luther College, official double live, $12 Megadeth, Peace Sells...but Who's Buying?, $6 Andrew Peterson, Walk, $6 Andrew Peterson, Carried Along, $6 Pink Floyd, Pulse, double-live boxset, nice booklet, like new, working light (needs new batt.), $20 Rammstein, Herzeleid, $8 Rush: Working Man Tribute (Fates Warning, Portnoy, etc), $8 Savatage, Streets: A Rock Opera, prog rock, $6 Saviour Machine, 1990 Indie Demo, $10 Shadow Gallery, Carved in Stone, prog rock, $6 Sparks, Interior Design, $6 Taylor, Steve, Liver, live album from Squint Tour, $6 U2, Last Night on Earth plus 3 bsides, $6 U2, One plus 3 bsides, $8 U2, Even Better Than the Real Thing plus 3 bsides, $8 U2, The Fly plus 2 bsides, UK import, $8 U2, Discotheque + 2 Holy Joe remixes, UK import, $6 U2, Sweetest Thing #1, 2 live bsides, UK import, $8 U2, Sweetest Thing #2, 2 live bsides, UK import, $8 Watershed, Twister, $5
Videos for sale. Prices listed by each item. Shipping is INCLUDED.
Clerks DVD, Kevin Smith breakout film, $22 dc Talk w/ Audio Adrenaline, Jesus Freak Tour promo VHS, $4 Saviour Machine, Live in Deutschland (NEW), $20 Seinfeld, Best of=85 100th Epi., 1hr, VHS promo, RARE, $20 Star Wars, Special Edition boxset, watched once, $25 Third Day, "You Make Me Mad" video single, $2
For information, tracklist, etc on any of this stuff,=20 email me. I accept credit cards (through PayPal), checks, money orders.=09
Thanks, Dan
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Date: 14 Oct 2000 15:37:27 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Bristol 16th October Message-ID: <20001014153727.7942.qmail@meowmix.chek.com>
2 DAYS TO GO!!
Any other UK Jammers seeing DT on Monday in Bristol? Private mail appreciated...I'm going to have far too much time to kill before the show.
~Simon
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:31:39 EDT From: IAmClay777@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: AiC/Nirvana Message-ID: <3b.b242fd3.2719e46b@aol.com>
> Well whilst soundgarden and alice in chains and pearl jam all had that same > Seattle > sound in some way, they were all pretty much just Led Zep bands. > When Nirvana came out they had that more 80s sound (like the Cure, the > Posies, > the Saints all them), but they also had that really heavy punk sound. Plus > Kurt > did have a very charismatic voice, and it was so fucking terrible, that it > became > good. He also had a great sense of melody and his riffs were killer. Plus > Dave Grohl's drumming was very creative and quite good compared to your > typical garage punk band.
OK, I'll agree about Dave Grohl's drumming, and the fact that Kurt Cobain had a very intense voice that did carry a lot of emotion, but Alice in Chains, a Led Zep band? They may have had some similarities in the way that they did both hard rock/heavy metal albums and acoustic albums, and that they both used a good number of odd time signatures, but that's about it. The styles of music, singing, and the lyrics are all totally different...
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:30:24 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: slide without slide? Message-ID: <39E85FF0.F1D4E03E@mol.com.mk>
> From: "Wojtek Pilat" <wpilat@hotmail.com> > Subject: Playing slide guitar without slide
Maybe you saw Michael Lee Firkins? That guy is nuts!
At first I enjoyed very much 2 albums of him, he has VERY original sound and technique, including the slide thingy. But then I heard he DOESN'T use slide! And I was just shocked, and I still cannot imagine HOW he can play his stuff like that.
So you say it's done with whammy bar??? I don't see how you can control the whammy that much, it's impossible. :(
And btw, Nirvana did not get popular after dude's death. They were pretty big at the time too. It was only the commercial money hungry pigs that later turned his death into a cash machine.
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:40:42 EDT From: DoubleJay54@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5639 Message-ID: <a5.c59a5d0.2719e68a@aol.com>
<< I've started to work on emulating slide playing with my whammy. It's a totally new thing for me tho, so if anyone could give some hints on that matter, I'd be very happy. Thanks in advance >>
jeff beck
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:02:38 -0400 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Red picks and prog snobs. Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20001014130238.008cb340@mail.ptd.net>
"Yngwie" Molite chimed in: >Well, *I* recently switched from blacks to reds simply because they >produced less friction.
When you played hockey, did you oil the blades of your ice skates, too? ;)
>and I never had problems with control.
ROTFLMAO! ;D
Cowgod opined: >haha its posts like that that make the jam great. if we weren't all a bunch >of uptight prog snobs with no sense of humor, this list would be a whole lot >more boring. :) moo.
:0/
I know that was said/typed in good fun, but I only become an uptight prog snob with no sense of humor when someone posts something completely idiotic. Stupidity is the only thing in this world I don't find humor in. I know at least two people on this list who know me in person and can attest to that. I'm a fungi!
And hey, would I be defending a band like Nirvana if I were a TRUE prog snob? ;) ;)
Still Awaiting the Flames of Ytse-hell, Brian
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:43:12 EDT From: EvoReaper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Whammy Shredi Message-ID: <95.1cb46b3.2719f530@aol.com>
<< I've started to work on emulating slide playing with my whammy. It's a totally new thing for me tho, so if anyone could give some hints on that matter, I'd be very happy. Thanks in advance >>
I think my biggest problem with listening to other guitarist play with they're wanks...er, whammies, is the intonation. It's fairly easy to slip just below or above the correct pitch, and that little bit will sound so disgusting if you do. (I'm a big stickler for being in key and playing in tune). I actually use this a lot, since I can't always grab a slide at the moment. I think a good practice peice would be something like the solo in "Pull Me Under", the first few measures of the solo, (I know, these are NOT played with a slide). Try staying on the first note of the solo, and use your whammy bar to do all the bends and slides, while fretting that same note. Obviously, depending on your guitar, you may or may not be able to get up or even low with the bar. If your playing a Strat, have fun tuning afterwards. On any decent Floyd Rose guitar, (an Ibanez Lo-TRS is NOT a decent trem. Original Edge, or a Lo-Pro Edge would be considered decent trems.). And even then, you have to have a lot of space under the bridge to pull up. (Join me and buy a JEM). Oh...and listen to plenty of Vai. :-)
<<Hey, guess what! I think Steve Vai might have released "Passion and Warfare" with the intent of making some money (aside from the obvious intent of furthering his "guitar god" status with a revolutionary instrumental album).>>
Steve doesn't release cd's to gain money or become a "Guitar God", (If he wanted more $, he would have stayed with David Lee Roth and/or Whitesnake when he was offered full time positions in the bands). He releases cd's because there's that market of his fans who foam at the mouth to hear his playing, (I choke on the foam it get's so bad.) I've never seen one time where Steve was trying to make himself any better than any guitarist. As a matter of fact, back when P&W was released, he did one last interview until his next cd came out, because he was sick of seeing himself on every guitar mag. on every streetcorner. Go ahead, check it out yourself, Guitar World probably late 91', the interview is called, 'Steve Vai-The Last Interview?'
Andy-
"Yeah, I'd say your my biggest fan I've met so far, just don't shoot me, K?" Steve Vai 11-23-99
Now Playing- Faith No More "The Real Thing" Ron Thal-"Freak"
BTW-Faith No More fucking rules.
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 14:00:35 -0400 From: "The Wizard" <thwizard@bellsouth.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Check out ProG Rock radio Message-ID: <000301c03608$a7600520$d3c6fea9@alphabeta1>
Hey all,
I started an internet radio station with the best progressive rock.
Check out my radio station at http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=the_wizard. It's an online radio station on Live365.com. Just click on the link to listen. hang out and listen. When doing live shows I add even more music selection. Enjoy, Greg AKA The Wizard
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:34:12 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Red picks and prog snobs. Message-ID: <001d01c03615$bb1bac60$702010ac@clemson.edu>
]From: "Brian Larkin" <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net> Subject: Red picks and prog snobs.
> And hey, would I be defending a band like Nirvana if I were a TRUE prog > snob? ;) ;)
hehe no, thats why i had to add in the stuff about no sense of humor and stuff :) come on, youre making this too much work for me. why cant you hate simple-minded music like a good little prog snob? :) i wasnt really referring to you specifically with that statement anyway, just using your post as a representative sample of the aggressive, challenging attitude i was referring to. :) hehe no offense intended, it just seemed to me like you were getting too worked up over a meaningless little sig. moo.
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:39:42 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Whammy Shredi Message-ID: <002301c03616$7f9a6860$702010ac@clemson.edu>
]From: <EvoReaper@aol.com> Subject: Whammy Shredi
> On any decent Floyd Rose guitar, (an Ibanez Lo-TRS is NOT a decent trem. > Original Edge, or a Lo-Pro Edge would be considered decent trems.).
quick question. how do i know which trem i have? i have it blocked because i don't have locking nuts, so i can't really judge based on whether or not it sucks :) what are the defining characteristics, visually, of the different ibanez tremolos? i can't tell by model number either because i have a '91 custom prototype, its a 7-string based on the S-series (apparently they have now started mass-producing 7-strings based on the S-series, but im not sure that they are direct descendants of my guitar, and i dont imagine the tremolo is necessarily the same).
on a side note, anyone know where i can get ibanez 7-string locking nuts? moo.
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:01:31 -0800 From: mildew@ucla.edu To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: meeting DT Message-ID: <200010142214.PAA18312@caracal.noc.ucla.edu>
>> That would kick ass if Superior could open for DT in the States!
Yeah right, we all know that the ass that is Bernd only comes to the states for ytse-weddings ;) "HAR HAR HAR."
~~Amanda
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:00:50 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Kenny Wayne Shepard Message-ID: <39E89142.371ACAFC@mol.com.mk>
This kid is a genious. Talented youngsters.
Yo, ... risking to embarrass myself here, but ... any guitar tabs of his stuff, ... I'm interested in this damn cool song of his WHILE WE CRY, and don't have the time to find the exact chords (sounds like typical SRV chords) although I know it's E H A E ...
I would appretiate if anyone knowing them just send 'em over to me, 3 chords - 6 letters maximum. :) thanx
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 02:13:39 EDT From: CeaSerin@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Last two days to support prog metal Message-ID: <47.2127449.271aa513@aol.com>
Hey guys, These are the last two days to come support a fellow prog band in the Metal Search 2000 contest. It's us versus 8 death metal bands and an electronica band. So we hope you come by and check us out and see whey we're finalists.
thanks in advance. J. Lamm <A HREF="http://www.mp3.com/CeaSerin">www.mp3.com/CeaSerin</A>
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