YTSEJAM Digest 5608
Today's Topics:
1) Re: On-Line CD Stores
by Jax <jax@ytseradio.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607
by CeaSerin@aol.com
3) Jordan's key solo and gut-wrenching metal
by Matthew Johnston <caravan@cafe-pierrot.net>
4) Answers and Questions
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
6) And another thing...
by Matthew Johnston <caravan@cafe-pierrot.net>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
8) gutmetal.mp3
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
9) Re: ATTN ALL BOOT COLLECTORS::::We need to find YNM live:
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
10) Labrie's first name (was: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607)
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607
by "Danny Mikkola" <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com>
12) Come and join a progressive band
by "MichalisM" <michael@progmetal.net>
13) RE: Fanzine / 2000 CD
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
14) Re:YTSEJAM digest 5607
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
15) Spinal Tap DVD
by Dave <sirdave@concentric.net>
16) RE: Fanzine / 2000 CD
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
17) Re: James does Freddie
by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
18) RE: Fanzine / 2000 CD
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
19) Re: Spinal Tap DVD
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
20) Kevin's solo material
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
21) what makes music good?
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
22) Re: Kevin's solo material
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
23) mp3's
by "Vinay Swarup" <swarupvi@hotmail.com>
24) RE: mp3's
by "Tim Willis" <tim@coderite.com>
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:48:10 -0400
From: Jax <jax@ytseradio.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: On-Line CD Stores
Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000912224523.00a8fc80@mail.ytseradio.com>
At 10:37 PM 9/12/00, Rogerio Brito wrote:
> BTW, *IF* what you say is true, then it's too bad, because I'd
> like to get my grubby pals onto a CD called "Pale Folklore" by
> Agalloch, which I was intending to buy from The End Records,
> located in the US (any experience reports with them from
> fellow jammers are welcome). :-(
The End provides excellent service..I ordered the new Ayreon cds from them
on a Saturday, and received them the following Wednesday..and if I'm not
mistaken, all of their cds are $10, including S&H.
Jax the Ytselurker, vanishing back into the shadows
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:27:49 EDT
From: CeaSerin@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607
Message-ID: <3d.d35196.26f04e35@aol.com>
In a message dated 9/12/00 9:34:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< Someone was asking about the lineup; howzabout:
James - Drums (can't be any worse than JP!) >>
Actually, James is somewhat of a drummer. Dn't know if he still does, but he
played when he was a kid.
>>
Yeah, i used to get their newsletter and it said that back in the day James
LaBrie (whose first name is also John but they didn't want three Johns in the
band) played drums in a barber shop quartet type thing.
interesting aye?
J. Lamm
<A HREF="http://metalsearch2000.mp3.com/metalsearch2000/">Cast your vote
for Cea Serin here</A>
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:06:33 -0700
From: Matthew Johnston <caravan@cafe-pierrot.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Jordan's key solo and gut-wrenching metal
Message-ID: <39BEFD48.9B4DCDC3@cafe-pierrot.net>
Okay, here's a suggestion. remember that neato classical piano
version of Ytsejam that's supposed to be playable by one superhuman?
Why not let Jordan take a stab at that all on his lonesome? Since YJ
is very much absent from the tour, and that cheesy Kurzweil demo (did
he set it to "Rhumba" in the last show?) is very played out, this
would be cool to hear.
Also, see if you can name where I got this little gem:
http://www.cafe-pierrot.net/gutmetal.mp3
Prize to the winner.
--Matt
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Answers and Questions
Message-ID: <20000913041238.21767.qmail@web1203.mail.yahoo.com>
Hey all you 'jammers,
]From: "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com>
>My brother, being a thorough Queen fanatic, picked up a Queen
>tribute album of sorts, supposedly a mix of rap and metal.
>
>Obviously, the eyecatcher here is James on vocals for a couple
>of tunes (another being the singer from Mozart on one song,
>but I'm probably the only one that cares). I haven't summoned
>the courage to slide this into the player yet. Anyone heard it?
>
>D/J
There were actually two Queen tribute albums. The first is called
Dragon Attack (1997) and is your general tribute-type material
(although I still don't have this one). The second is called Tie
Your Mix Down (2000, a play on the phrase "tie your mother down")
and is the afforementioned mix of rap and metal. It's kinda funny,
actually, much like the rap remix of Rush's Tom Sawyer. James
LaBrie does the vocals on 2 of the Tie Your Mix Down songs. Be sure
to listen with an open mind. :)
-----
]From: "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net>
>Does anyone know why we've only received one issue of the DTIFC
>fanzine this
>year? Any idea when we might see the next issue?
I've been told that the Summer fanzine has been sent to the
mailinghouse in Holland. Please remember that Holland is an ocean
away from me, and it's always completely up to Holland as to what
the DTIFC does. "I'm just a pansy." ;)
Now it's time for a question from me. Does anyone have a FULL
recording of James singing the Journey song "Separate Ways" in ANY
format? It was from some 80s music tribute album. I'd love to buy
the album, but I think it's out of print. :P Thanks in advance.
:)
-Nicole/Kirby isn't dead yet...
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:14:17 -0400
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607
Message-ID: <39BEFF18.B77822FA@yunque.net>
No no his first name's kevin dude..
2 kevs and 2 johns :)
CeaSerin@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/12/00 9:34:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
> ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
>
> << Someone was asking about the lineup; howzabout:
>
> James - Drums (can't be any worse than JP!) >>
>
> Actually, James is somewhat of a drummer. Dn't know if he still does, but he
> played when he was a kid.
> >>
>
> Yeah, i used to get their newsletter and it said that back in the day James
> LaBrie (whose first name is also John but they didn't want three Johns in the
> band) played drums in a barber shop quartet type thing.
> interesting aye?
>
> J. Lamm
> <A HREF="http://metalsearch2000.mp3.com/metalsearch2000/">Cast your vote
> for Cea Serin here</A>
--Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home Itīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:20:07 -0700 From: Matthew Johnston <caravan@cafe-pierrot.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: And another thing... Message-ID: <39BF0072.566E3ECB@cafe-pierrot.net>
Is it just me, or has DT gotten more good press since SFAM than the two years between FII and SFAM? Also, it seems prog and hair metal (good and the bad) are coming back into some favor as guilty pleasures. It's like, "Okay, we distanced ourselves from it... now that it's far away, it's kinda fun." Prog rock is mentioned everywhere now, and not as a bash. APC is part prog art rock according to an AP review of a concert; the reporter didn't even qualify that with "but luckily there's no self-indulgent solos" -- the point of the article was to emphasize their intelligence and musical/lyrical complextiy (relative to 98.6% of pop musically, relative to just about all rock lyrically -- they're fucking awesome d00d... l33t r0<3r2... err... whatever).
Anyway, it looks like, if these bands like DT and whoever stay true and enthusiastic, they may enjoy a sort of rennaisance as the public begins to warm to metal and complexity again. And I'll truly buy into that as soon as the Blazers sign Chris Mullin.
It could happen.
--Matt, of the clan McMatt
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:05:48 -0500 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607 Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000913050548.01cf6a34@pi-r-squared.com>
At 08:36 PM 9/12/00 -0700, you wrote: > >In a message dated 9/12/00 9:34:13 PM Central Daylight Time, >ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: > ><< Someone was asking about the lineup; howzabout: > > James - Drums (can't be any worse than JP!) >> > > Actually, James is somewhat of a drummer. Dn't know if he still does, but he > played when he was a kid. > >> > >Yeah, i used to get their newsletter and it said that back in the day James >LaBrie (whose first name is also John but they didn't want three Johns in the >band) played drums in a barber shop quartet type thing. >interesting aye?
Actually his first name is Kevin and they didn't want two KEVINS in the band. And he sang in the barbershop quartet and played drums in another band (I think) this is all in the FAQ aNd on the webpage. ;)
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:40:21 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: gutmetal.mp3 Message-ID: <39BF1345.A0B0F732@yunque.net>
wtf?!
It sounds like something recorded over the wdadu version of a fortune in lies, trying to make it sound "live".. again.. wtf?-
Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home Itīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 02:28:52 -0300 From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: ATTN ALL BOOT COLLECTORS::::We need to find YNM live: Message-ID: <20000913022852.B3053@iname.com>
On Sep 12 2000, Kurt M Hampton wrote: > Does ANYONE have recordings of either of these 3 shows? > > 1/16/98 - Tokyo, Japan (Tokyo Koseinenkin Hall)
I have this one (I'm looking at it right now).
> These are the only 3 times Dream Theater has played You Not me > live. This is the only song that I don't have live somewhere, as Im > sure lots of you don't ahve this live. :)
Yes, the song is there and the performance is ok, including:
* You Not Me; * Speak to Me; * New Millennium; * Trial of Tears; * Perfect Strangers/Nightmare Cinema; * Anna Lee; * Metropolis (including Nicky Lemons and the Migraines' "I Don't Like You");
(It's a 2CD set, in fact). > Someone please step up.
Here it is. :-) I'm open to offers. :-) Artistic Death/Black Metal preferred, but other (obscure) things will do (even some Power Metal).
> Kurt
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:50:53 -0300 From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Labrie's first name (was: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607) Message-ID: <20000913005052.A2975@iname.com>
On Sep 12 2000, CeaSerin@aol.com wrote: > Yeah, i used to get their newsletter and it said that back in the > day James LaBrie (whose first name is also John but they didn't want > three Johns in the band) played drums in a barber shop quartet type > thing. interesting aye?
I thought his first name was Kevin...
"And I'm right. I'm always right, but in this case I'm just a bit more right than I usually am." -- Linus Torvalds
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:58:04 -0700 From: "Danny Mikkola" <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5607 Message-ID: <OE28nB36lbU1PywZydW00004438@hotmail.com>
those both seem pretty cool setlists, but i would have to agree with Tim Willis, because i like Metropolis Pt. 2 in the whole order from start to finish. But both of you forgot, "hollow years" thats like my favorite. Wheres the love guys?
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:29:31 +0300 From: "MichalisM" <michael@progmetal.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Come and join a progressive band Message-ID: <006c01c01d6d$82a276e0$ac8b5cc1@fateswarm>
.Do you ever think how wonderfull it'd be to be part of music history? To have a creative band with the best songs that anyone loves? Now you have the chance to explore your limits, to be part of a progressive band and leave everything behind. ..visit the progressive musicians forum at http://www.progmetal.net/musicians
- Mike, ProgMetal.net
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:42:32 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Fanzine / 2000 CD Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC21A5@ISDCRE00>
I'm waiting to find out when to send in my $$ for the 2000 xmas fanclub CD. Don't wanna miss out!
> -----Original Message----- > From: Mike & Susan Verstraete [SMTP:homewks@sound.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:44 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Fanzine > > > Does anyone know why we've only received one issue of the DTIFC fanzine > this > year? Any idea when we might see the next issue? > > Mike > > Mike and Susan Verstraete > www.sound.net/~homewks
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Date: 13 Sep 2000 13:02:00 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:YTSEJAM digest 5607 Message-ID: <20000913130200.16716.qmail@viebrock.chek.com>
>From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> >Subject: Fuel > >Wouldn't it be shite if the fuel blockades and shortages >throughout Europe caused DT to cancel their shows in >October?
OK, let's get every UK jammer to donate petrol to DT for the express purpose of these shows. Form a queue! ;)
>> > Jessica Simpson > >Is she Homer & Marge's long lost first born daughter >that ran away from home to pursue a music career and is >really, REALLY bad at it so she decided to bleach her >hair and become a slut?
I dunno, can a virgin actually be a slut too? Well, I guess that girl in American Pie did it...
>>James - Drums (can't be any worse than JP!) >>John M - Vocals (fuck if that wouldn't surprise us!) >>Jordan - bass >>John P - keyboards >>Mike - Guitar > >I'd have to switch out Mike and Jordan though... the >reason they've always had mike on bass is because it's >part of the rhythm section and easier to make for >transition.
Actually, I kinda want to make it harder for them! Ain't that part of the fun?
>From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> >Subject: Lie Single Photo-something weird.... >JP, and James are behind him, Kevin is looking off to >the side like he is gonna leave the band or something,
Yeah, fuck. Like that's gonna happen!! ;)
>Myung is kinda in the front in the spotlight
Fucking hell! Surely not! First time for everything.
>LOL, is there a musician who died of natural death and >kept doing good albums until he quited music?
Bob Marley. The KLF. King Crimson. Umm. That's about it. (And nobody say John Lennon, because that'd be NO)
>Give me Awake era DT with Chromakey/KevMo influences >anyday than the "lets get back to playing "prog" with >lots of solos" style that they have now. > >Any band out there that matches that description? HEH >Awake era DT with Chromakey influences..
Actually, that's almost EXACTLY the sort of stuff that I'm looking to play. Got me a drummer, maybe a keys person - need a guitarist and a cool singer. Any volunteers?
~Simon
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Date: 9/13/2000 9:22 From: Dave <sirdave@concentric.net> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Spinal Tap DVD Message-ID: <200009131320.JAA02561@cliff.concentric.net>
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Has anyone bought the new Tap DVD yet? Maybe someone could post a small review of it. The reason I ask is that I already own the Criterion Collection version, and was wondering if it's worth getting the new one for it's extras. The Criterion version is very good and has two commentary audio tracks, as well as over an hour of unused footage. I can't wait for DT's DVD also!
Thanks, -Dave
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:28:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Fanzine / 2000 CD Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009130918480.19797-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Souter, Jan-Michael wrote:
> I'm waiting to find out when to send in my $$ for the 2000 xmas > fanclub CD. Don't wanna miss out!
Dude, send in money NOW for your membership; it's as good a time as any!
http://www.dreamtheater.net/dtifc-idx.htm
Seriously, it's only $25, and it shows your support. Sign up now, and you'll get this year's Christmas CD!
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- Sometimes, when I would read a very good book, I would stop and thank my teacher. At least, I used to, until she got an unlisted number. -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:35:17 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: James does Freddie Message-ID: <004201c01d87$747a81b0$b084c5cf@crp.org>
> supposedly a mix of rap and metal.
Supposedly. Whoever told you this must have some serious hearing problems. There is not an ounce of rap on this tribute (I ASSume you're talking about Dragon Attack). Just a look at the cover - with its list of musicians - should appease you: JP, JLB, Impelliteri, Yngwie (I think), Anthrax dudes (who actually kill the song "It's Late" - I have never in my life heard a worse cover than this atrocity.), the Kulick brothers and a plethora of other hard rock/metal heavies.
>I haven't summoned > the courage to slide this into the player yet. Anyone heard it?
As can be deducted from my statement above, yes I have. Don't fear it, play it. It's not a spectacular album, but it has some good covers and prety good musicianship.
joe
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:46:32 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Fanzine / 2000 CD Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC21AE@ISDCRE00>
Thankya Thankya cuttin' that check tonight!
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Coutermarsh [SMTP:a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:44 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Fanzine / 2000 CD > > > On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Souter, Jan-Michael wrote: > > > I'm waiting to find out when to send in my $$ for the 2000 xmas > > fanclub CD. Don't wanna miss out! > > Dude, send in money NOW for your membership; it's as good a time as any! > > http://www.dreamtheater.net/dtifc-idx.htm > > Seriously, it's only $25, and it shows your support. Sign up now, and > you'll get this year's Christmas CD! > > ------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Coutermarsh > a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu > http://cout.dhs.org/ > Cloak on IRC > ICQ: 2513441 > ------------------------------------------------- > Sometimes, when I would read a very good book, > I would stop and thank my teacher. At least, I > used to, until she got an unlisted number. > -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:55:12 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Spinal Tap DVD Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20000913075201.00a6d800@pop.earthlink.net>
At 06:33 AM 9/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
> Has anyone bought the new Tap DVD yet? Maybe someone >could post a small review of it. > The reason I ask is that I already own the Criterion >Collection version, and was wondering if it's worth getting I'm wondering the same thing... You'll probably find some good info in the forums at http://www.hometheaterforum.com/ or http://www.dvdreview.com/
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:45:19 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Kevin's solo material Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC21C0@ISDCRE00>
Very interesting thread you have started Carlos...
To me (opinion opinion) I don't personally care for Kevin Moore's solo material. It's very spacey and very 'mellow'... a far cry from what he played with DT for years. It isn't bad - I just don't care for it personally. I'm so glad that Kevin finished up Awake before departing to his softer solo style.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos A. Alfaro [SMTP:calfaro@yunque.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Lie Single Photo-something weird.... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > ]From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> > > > Unfortunately, Kevin did leave DT. But if he didn't leave, we wouldn't > have > > Jordan in the band !!!! > > Not to start another meaningless debate , but i would take Kev over Jordan > anyday. Not because of their playing abilities or whatnot, but because i > wouldve liked to see the direction the band would have taken with him, > maybe > giving him more influence on the direction of their style. > Give me Awake era DT with Chromakey/KevMo influences anyday than the > "lets > get back to playing "prog" with lots of solos" style that they have now. > > Any band out there that matches that description? HEH > Awake era DT with Chromakey influences.. > heh >
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:48:30 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: what makes music good? Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC21C1@ISDCRE00>
> What makes music good?
Good looks help.... (Britney definitely....Christina...Mandy...Jessica... :))
How's that for Britney bashing? :)
> -----Original Message----- > From: Cluck42@aol.com [SMTP:Cluck42@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:10 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5606 > > <<snip>> > with all this boyband and britany spears bashing thats been going on i > have been thinking...what is the general opinion about "what makes music > good?" some would say lyrics, some would say shredding, some may say > complexity, some say its simply whether or not you like it...just > interested in hearing peoples opinions. > > rose
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:39:58 -0300 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Kevin's solo material Message-ID: <001f01c01db2$0514b040$37351ec8@yunque.net>
---- Original Message ----- ]From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
> Very interesting thread you have started Carlos... > To me (opinion opinion) I don't personally care for Kevin Moore's solo > material. It's very spacey and very 'mellow'... a far cry from what he > played with DT for years. It isn't bad - I just don't care for it > personally. I'm so glad that Kevin finished up Awake before departing to > his softer solo style.
Of course, i mean everythings a matter of personal taste. I for one enjoy Kev's new stuff A LOT. Different strokes for different folks, as with everything in life (almost). Although well I have to admit im one of the few who even prefer Derek's style to jordan's. I hardly listen to "prog" anymore, basically just DT, Fates (which have gone in a very interesting direction themselves IMO) and Spocks Beard. Im listening to a lot of heavier stuff (Opeth, My Dying Bride, Meshuggah, In Flames, some black metal etc.) and lighter stuff (Gathering, newer anathema/tiamat etc) I just feel ive grown out of the more "pompous" prog stylings like lots of solos, neoclassical, operatic bla bla. While im not ready to "give up" on the genre itself, mainly becaus i simply LOVE dt, and because of fresh sounding stuff like what fates is doing and Spock's beard which is like retro but fresh sounding :P . Ive said it before and ill say it again (ferris?) one of the most progressive and incredible albums ive heard in a LONG time has been Opeth's Still Life. No meandering solos, no operatic vocals, just plain tight musicianship, great melodies, and just ...its overwhelming.
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:56:16 EDT From: "Vinay Swarup" <swarupvi@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: mp3's Message-ID: <F270NfSu9uSsDZfGGdD000115aa@hotmail.com>
Hey everybody I was just wondering if someone could tell me another place other than Napster (my work has a firewall that won't let me connect) that I can download mp3's (as easy as Napster is). I've gotten on scour.com, but personally I think it blows. Apologies in advance for anybody who doesn't. I would appreciate it.
Thanks, Vin
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:16:16 -0500 From: "Tim Willis" <tim@coderite.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: mp3's Message-ID: <NDBBKCJABKLFNOPHHNIMOEKEDBAA.tim@coderite.com>
Try the newsgroups man....
> Hey everybody I was just wondering if someone could tell me another place > other than Napster (my work has a firewall that won't let me > connect) that I > can download mp3's (as easy as Napster is). I've gotten on > scour.com, but > personally I think it blows. Apologies in advance for anybody > who doesn't. > I would appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Vin > > > Vinay Swarup > Research Coordinator > vswarup@gobeyond.com > Phone 734.747.8619x721 > Fax 734.747.8621 > Cell Phone 734.383.8662 > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > >
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