YTSEJAM Digest 5612
Today's Topics:
1) Re: the setlist to die for :)
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
2) Jon's Hammerjacks Anouncement
by welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
3) Nuno Bettencourt Live in NY
by "Alan Estrada" <alan_estrada@hotmail.com>
4) Re: Kevin's solo stuff
by "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
5) "Choreographed" Dream Theater Shows
by "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu>
6) Roseland DVD....??
by Riffinator@aol.com
7) Re: Roseland DVD....??
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:09:44 -0400
From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: the setlist to die for :)
Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000916120453.00af23d0@mindspring.com>
Tim Willis said, for some reason:
>I guess it's true then - art is dead.
Not sure why you're saying this. Does art have to be stiff and
robotic? Does art have to be the same every time its displayed? Does art
have to be 100% planned out beforehand? Or can art be something more
alive? Can it be something new each time? I guess you have an extremely
limited view of art. Plus, Dream Theater is too damned good a group of
musicians (IMO) to be tied down like that. Although they DO tie themselves
down in their live shows these days (MUSICALLY speaking, of course...
hehehehe).
Adam
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Adam Pye
alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1
^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:25:31 +0200
From: welihozkiy <andy@dust.de>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Jon's Hammerjacks Anouncement
Message-ID: <39C277AB.29903B71@dust.de>
> I heard a few weeks ago that there will be another
> Hammerjacks. Then.....I was flipping through the
> Baltimore City paper last night and saw a full page ad
> for the new Hammerjacks to "open soon". Didn't see
> any other details. Does this mean that the Baltimore
> metropolitan area will once again be plastered with
> Hammerjacks bumper stickers?
Jon man that isn't funny -- I stood up at my desk here when I read that. Ha!
Are you serious!? Oh the heavens shine down upon us. I can see it now 2 to 3 stops
for bands.....Hammerjacks, 9:30, and Jaxx -- and all of us at each show....(fade into a daydream)
sigh.....
andy
"-What about that Red Chinese radio chatter?
-It's done. Here you go.
-Done? That was a static filled, triple scrambled,
microwave transmission between two soldiers talking in Mandarin Chinese.
-Well, the Chinese were only using a simple polyphoneticly grouped
twenty square digit key, transposed from booster verdonic form,
with multiple nulls.
I broke it with this.
-A Drogen's Decoder Wheel? They put these into cereal boxes for kid!
-Yeah, I found it in a box of, uh . . . Lucky Charms."
Andy Welihozkiy 'Animation Droid' andy@dust.de
Stardust Entertainment Filmproduktion GmbH & Co. KG
Berliner Strasse 89 14467 Potsdam Germany
Fon: +49 331 28 15 0 Fax: +49 331 28 15 111
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 23:47:57 GMT
From: "Alan Estrada" <alan_estrada@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Nuno Bettencourt Live in NY
Message-ID: <F71joVy0rBONWaSH4qg00011b78@hotmail.com>
from www.hotelasylum.com :
September 15th 2000
- The Station at Warick, RI have announced that due to popular demand
Mourning Widows will play another show there on Saturday October 28th.
For information contact: The Station - 211 Cowesett Ave, West Warwick, Rhode
Island. Tel: 401-823-4660 or on;line at www.thestationrocks.com
Tickets available at tickets.com and also at Strawberries.
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:58:55 -0400
From: "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Kevin's solo stuff
Message-ID: <005701c0204a$d6577b20$6e7c0b18@stcl1.mi.home.com>
Rob said:
> As for Kev's solo stuff, it's getting dull. The new CD is background
music and nothing > more. I think Dead Air For Radios had some good tracks,
most of which I had already > owned in demo form. It's not the style that's
the problem, it's the songs. They just
> aren't that interesting.
I kinda agree about the new disc. It's fairly dull.
But IMO Dead Air For Radios is a truly amazing disc!
- Joe D.
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:46:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu>
To: The ytsejam mailing list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: "Choreographed" Dream Theater Shows
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10009162140220.22314-100000@andante>
Hello everybody!
I just thought that I'd weigh in on the topic about DT shows being
choreographed. I'm not talking about people doing interpretative dance to
DT (I prefer seeing that than to a wacked-out guy in a thong doing weird
contortions with his body...), but rather the idea that the setlists and
other onstage goings-on are too structured.
For the music that DT does-musically challenging concept pieces
consisting of many parts and details- it does make sense to me that they
WOULD have a fixed setlist. There were stories to be told, parts to be
played, events to occur- it's definitely not an improvisational situation.
Sure, I would have liked to have a little more jamming here and there to
loosen things up, but quite a few of the new parts and treatments that
they had introduced in the live show actually DID improve upon 'Metropolis
Part 2' (just consider the live version of "Through Her Eyes" if you
heard it on tour or on an "audience recording." It's great.) Then again,
since the quality of DT's _performances_ as well as compositions are so
high, I shouldn't kvetch about what could have been... :-)
It's good that someone on the list mentioned Queensryche's
performances. While I now hold DT in higher esteem than QR because DT are
so much better musicians (regardless of which keyboardist they use, though
Jordan is by far the best one of the three) and have a far more solid body
of work, Queensryche have impressed me by their performance skills. One
of THE best shows that I've ever been to was Queensryche on the 'Promised
Land' tour on July 16, 1995 (my 18th birthday!) It was more structured
than DT's show at Roseland on August 30- there were actors, props, video
screens, lights courtesy of Mr Howard Ungerleider (who made his reputation
with Rush), and stellar performances from all 5 members of Queensryche
(Geoff played the saxophone and keyboard as well as sang; Chris DeGarmo
played piano as well as Guitar; the others, particularly Scott "SRock"
Rockenfield [one of my favorite drummers], played well on their
instruments) Yes, that show was a _major_ production that was scripted
for _every_ second, but it was a first-class job by all involved.
While it may be foolish for me to ask DT to prove themselves
further after creating 'Metropolis Part 2' (and 'A Change of Seasons' and
'A Mind Beside Itself' and others) and then performing it live in its
entirety on MULTIPLE occasions, I would find it interesting if Dream
Theater did play a show where they just made up their setlist as they went
along. But if they don't, it's cool as well. I've never been sorry for
going to a DT show (even though it once almost put my Linear Algebra grade
in jeopardy... :-P), and I don't think I ever will.
Thanks for reading!
Electronically,
Dom
NP: 'Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory'
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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:24:56 EDT
From: Riffinator@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Roseland DVD....??
Message-ID: <49.e850ed.26f61218@aol.com>
Wassuup!! Been in lurking mode for forever....(prolly since '98). Anyways,
just wanted to inquire about the Roseland DVD....anyone know if they cracked
the timecode bug and if it will be released on time, or at all?? I haven't
seen any posts on the 'jam about it lately (nor on DT's and MP's site), so I
got concerned. Private email me if this question is already outdated. :)
Thanks!
Drew
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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Roseland DVD....??
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009171105320.54221-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 Riffinator@aol.com wrote:
> Wassuup!! Been in lurking mode for forever....(prolly since '98).
> Anyways, just wanted to inquire about the Roseland DVD....anyone know
> if they cracked the timecode bug and if it will be released on time,
> or at all?? I haven't seen any posts on the 'jam about it lately (nor
> on DT's and MP's site), so I got concerned. Private email me if this
> question is already outdated. :) Thanks!
According to Kevin Shirley's website (www.cavemanproductions.com):
Dream Theater problems have all been worked out, thanks in no small part
to the tireless efforts of Mr. Squeaky (aka Pat Thrall), New York's
resident "best drinkin' buddy of the new millenium", so in Monday I begin
in earnest to mix the show for the Xmas DVD release.
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http://cout.dhs.org/
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