YTSEJAM Digest 5616
Today's Topics:
1) 99 Fanclub Disc/Pt. 3
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
2) jjens
by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
3) Dream Theater sighting on The Onion
by "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu>
4) Re: guitar recording.
by Yan Gonzalez <yanelmar@rieder.net.py>
5) re: guitar recording
by Jim <jim@beracah.com>
6) Support Progressive Metal in the Metal Search 2000
by CeaSerin@aol.com
7) Re: Dream Theater sighting on The Onion
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
8) Mesa Boogie 20/20 ...
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
9) Re:jjens
by "Nissinen Tommi"
10) Re: Neil Evans, power amps... NDTC
by "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com>
11) Live US radio interview with Hansi of Blind Guardian on September 22, 2000
by Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
12) DT concert shirts
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:02:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
To: The Dance of Ytinrete <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: 99 Fanclub Disc/Pt. 3
Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.21.0009201256540.30112-100000@gs.bass.org>
First of all, check your booklet again. Lyrics for Raise the Knife are
there.
Second, Bix Beiderbecke did not write Metropolis. Ferde Grofe (Grand
Canyon Suite) did. See this link from the AMG:
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=A135799
It was probably a suite with different sections and Bix only played one
part of it.
paul
NP Stereolab: Mars Audiac Quintet
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Paul's Bimonthly Musical Quote:
I'm no fucking buddhist but this is enlightenment
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:11:38 -0700
From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: jjens
Message-ID: <001601c0232e$393c6120$574b010a@winstar.com>
NP: Johansson-Holdsworth-Johansson - Heavy Machinery
Just wanted to say I got this CD few days ago and it's very cool fusion
stuff.
I would recommend it to anyone caring for fusion, jazz rock music.
If you like Jens, you might want to give these a try too:
Baker, Ginger-Unseen Rain (w/ J. Johannson & Jonas Hellborg)
Hellborg Group, Jonas-e (w/ A.& J. Johannson)
Jansson, Benny-Flume Ride (w/ A. & J. Johannson)
Johansson Brothers-s/t
(they also have one called Sonic Winter that I can't find)
Johansson, Jens-Fission (w/ A. Johansson & Shawn Lane)
Johansson, Jens-Ten Seasons
Johansson, Jens-The Last Viking
Not to mention, Stratovarious and newer Mastermind cds...
Trevor
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:27:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu>
To: The ytsejam mailing list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Dream Theater sighting on The Onion
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10009201424300.15867-100000@andante>
In regards to the sighting at
http://www.onion.com/onion3633/scrabble_victory.html :
Reading the story, it doesn't surprise me that Mr. Riedel is a DT fan.
Ducking for cover,
Dom :-P
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:20:02 -0400
From: Yan Gonzalez <yanelmar@rieder.net.py>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: guitar recording.
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000920142002.007e2620@mail.rieder.net.py>
Hey there.
First of all, I want to thank all the *extremely cool* answers of fellow
jammers who took the time to give me some hints about recording. =) Long
live to the Jam !
In a private mail, I answered Kev the looong story of recording a CD here.
IN short, we have like only 20 bands at most that put out cds, and NONE of
them have decent recordings. YOu know, new market, inexperienced
"engineers" and "producers", with the result of bad takes, poor
mixes...yadda yadda yadda.
That's why we won't bother contacting the producers/engineers of those
records.
>From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
>Asking how to record/produce is like asking how to play a guitar. It's not
>a method, it's an art. Before you go back into the studio, find a
>producer/engineer who has been involved in a recording that has a guitar
>tone you'll like. He'll (or she'll) know how to get that sound for your
>band too.
My inbox is still open, so feel free to throw in your suggestions, or just
to tell me how to relax before recording..=)
Regarding Roseland... Nobody told me if there will be a VHS version !
Warm regards.
_____________________________________
Yan Gonzalez Acosta
Guitarrista
Morgana
http://www.mp3.com/morgana
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:54:21 -0500
From: Jim <jim@beracah.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: guitar recording
Message-ID: <39C907DD.8325AE95@beracah.com>
Time for my semi-annual de-lurk...
Someone said:
>
>First of all w/ the miking of guitars, you know. I think the standard
are
>SM-57s, which we will use. How would you mike the amp to get the
maximum
>crunchyness (sp?), thickness and heaviness of the rythm guitars ? This
one
>is my main concern.=20
>
>And for the solos ?
First off, I am by no means an expert in this area, but I do have some
experience as both a guitar tech, and a sound engineer, and have dabbled
in the studio...
The method of miking guitars I prefer is to start out as you said with
an SM57, but if I can I use 2, here's what I like to do..
The details depend on the guitar players rig, but in a nutshell I like
to to have 2 signals going to the board, one "dry", with no effects, and
one "wet", with all the effects, overdrive, etc. This way you have some
more control over the overall tone, and effects level. My preferred
method is to split the signal from the guitar, one line straight to an
amp, into a cabinet, and the other, through the effects into the amp,
then into a cabinet.
At this point I like to mike the lower speakers in the cabinet, taking
the 57 just a couple inches off from being directly in front of the
center of the speaker, at a 45 degree angle. I usually end up pointing
it down, for 2 reasons, one, in a live setting this helps isolate any
other "stage noise" from that mike, and along with it being the bottom
speaker, seems to increase the low end. Different speakers have
different characteristics, so experiment with mike placement until you
get the sound you want.
If you can't use the 2 cabinet set-up, a workable alternative is to
simply split the signal before the effects, and sending the "dry" line
straight to the board. The advantage of this method is that the signal
is not colored by the amp and speaker, and can help you get a really
nice "clean" tone.
The main advantage of this method is control, by having a dry signal to
play with you can overcome some of the negatives that having too much
processing (i.e. compression, delays, overdrives, etc.) can cause. One
of the main symptoms being a "thin" sounding guitar tone
..but of course, the main thing is the quality of the sound BEFORE it
reaches the microphone, if you are miking a $25 10watt Kustom combo,
with a $50 kay guitar plugged into it....well, you know what they say,
you can't polish a turd...
Just my 2 cents worth, hope it helps...
Jim aka Roadie
NP: Transcendence-The Meridian Project
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:17:47 EDT
From: CeaSerin@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Support Progressive Metal in the Metal Search 2000
Message-ID: <75.9d97f4f.26fa9f9b@aol.com>
So far there is only one band that is Progressive Metal in the metal search
2000 contest. It seems that Metal Blade has gotten two death metal bands,
and electronica band and a prog band so far as teh finalists (though more
will be added).
So if you want to come check out the unique prog band, Cea Serin, that is
the finalist for the record deal with Metal Blade come on by the link below.
They've only been together for 3 years and it's been all up hill.
Every vote is appreciated as well. Seems the other band has been cheating
with theirs (at least that is what the newsgroups say).
thanks,
Cea Serin
<A HREF="http://metalsearch2000.mp3.com/metalsearch2000/">Come Vote for
Cea Serin at the Metal Search 2000</A>
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:48:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Dream Theater sighting on The Onion
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009202347570.39757-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Dominic H. Kallas wrote:
> In regards to the sighting at
> http://www.onion.com/onion3633/scrabble_victory.html :
>
> Reading the story, it doesn't surprise me that Mr. Riedel is a DT fan.
I thought it was rather funny, too, that the story is from Plymouth, NH,
where I am from! :) (And NO, it's not me in the picture... I only WISH I
had a Metropolis 2000 t-shirt. You can even check the pictures on my
website if you doubt it's me :)
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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The only stupid question is the one that is never
asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about
time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer,
isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when,
in fact, I was speeding?"
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:24:40 -0400
From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Mesa Boogie 20/20 ...
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000919172440.007bab70@mail.ptd.net>
Of the Evans' Neil and Paul, the latter recommended to the former:
>Consider spending another $100, and go for the Mesa Boogie 20/20 (it's
>tube).
I'll second that recommendation. I've had mine for about 6 months and am
still as excited about how great it sounds as I was when I first played
through it in April. And it's true, you have to have used both solid state
and tube to appreciate how good tubes sound - this is my first rackmount
power amp, and before this I was using the head of my Crate "Excalibur"
GX-1200H for power. The difference has been incredible. Now maybe one day
when the piggy bank is full I'll be able to afford some Mesa cabs to go
along with it, lol!
Peace,
Brian
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Date: 21 Sep 2000 06:31:00 +0300
From: "Nissinen Tommi"
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re:jjens
Message-ID: <JA8AAAAAAPo1wQABYQADbpMOAcxU@kesko.fi>
Trevor Hoit (20.9.2000 21:33):
> (they also have one called Sonic Winter that I can't find)
I ordered it from Japan (I live in Finland) and it is excellent album. It=
has
our beloved Yngwie playing guitar in two (instrumental) tracks. The other=
one
of those instrumentals is called "Enigma Suite" and (IMO) it=B4s one of the=
best
instrumentals i=B4ve ever heard. I can recommend highly that album!
-Tommi Nissinen
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:26:32 -0700
From: "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Neil Evans, power amps... NDTC
Message-ID: <001f01c0239d$454d37e0$c5cbaec7@default>
Paul, thanks for the recommendation.
You mention that the Mesa power amp is plenty loud - can you still get
cranking tones at low volume? (I live in an apartment).
Anyone else have an opinion on the tube vs. solid state question for power
amps? Frankly, I don't really understand the role of the power amp in
creating the sound. It seems to me like the preamp does all the work as far
as tone generation, and the power amp just delivers it to the speakers. I
suppose it's this "delivery" that can make a big difference, but I don't
have the experience to say how important it is. This, I'm sure, is obvious
to anyone who sees my VooduValve plugged into the "power amp in" jack of my
crappy combo amp :).
Thanks again for the info,
-Neil.
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Date: 21 Sep 2000 14:43:46 +0200
From: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com (Jason T. Breitweg)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, teof@egroups.com, galleryofshadows@onelist.com,
Subject: Live US radio interview with Hansi of Blind Guardian on September 22, 2000
Message-ID: <tkuwvg5rk3h.fsf@zussun8.desy.de>
Hi all,
Sorry for sending this to many lists, I am sure people are capable of
hitting the delete key if it shows up more than once in their
mailboxes *grin*.
Anyway check out the BG web page at www.blind-guardian.com in the
September News section for all the info on a live radio interview
Hansi is doing tomorrow with Dr. Metal. There are sure to be some new
BG news and some crazy questions (as usual). Have fun.
Jason
-- Jason T. Breitweg E-Mail: Jason.Breitweg@blind-guardian.com WWW: http://www.blind-guardian.com------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:24:46 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT concert shirts Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC22E4@ISDCRE00>
They sell the DT concert shirts (current SFAM tour and FII tour as well) on the official DT site..
I sure would love to be able to buy a "WDADU" concert shirt now though!! :) I have one from every tour but that one :( (Yes, I even have an ACOS t-shirt)
JM
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Coutermarsh [SMTP:a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:59 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Dream Theater sighting on The Onion > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Dominic H. Kallas wrote: > > > In regards to the sighting at > > http://www.onion.com/onion3633/scrabble_victory.html : > > > > Reading the story, it doesn't surprise me that Mr. Riedel is a DT fan. > > I thought it was rather funny, too, that the story is from Plymouth, NH, > where I am from! :) (And NO, it's not me in the picture... I only WISH I > had a Metropolis 2000 t-shirt. You can even check the pictures on my > website if you doubt it's me :) > > ------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Coutermarsh > a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu > http://cout.dhs.org/ > Cloak on IRC > ICQ: 2513441 > ------------------------------------------------- > The only stupid question is the one that is never > asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about > time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, > isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, > in fact, I was speeding?" > -------------------------------------------------
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