YTSEJAM Digest 5818
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Sync problems
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
2) DVD rants
by "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net>
3) Just a thought
by Billy920@webtv.net
4) Re: Just a thought
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
5) Re: Just a thought
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
6) Re: dvd stereo **Contains SPOILER**
by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
7) Re:dt dvd
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
8) You (U) Must (M) Be (B) Crazy (C)
by MusicSnob@aol.com
9) Re: You (U) Must (M) Be (B) Crazy (C)
by "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5817
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
11) Re: Absence of ***SPOILER*** tags!
by "sdts@sdts.nu" <sdts@sdts.nu>
12) A new and interesting poll...
by "Denis J. Lanza" <voxman@snet.net>
13) FW: [infinityminusone] New poll for infinityminusone
by "Denis J. Lanza" <voxman@snet.net>
14) Ice Age - Liberation
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
15) Re: Ice Age - Liberation
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
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Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:35:09 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Sync problems
Message-ID: <86n19mmpf6.fsf@picsel.com>
"Douglas Gray" <douglas_gray@hotmail.com> writes:
> >No signs of any video/audio sync problems in the first 20 minutes
> >anyway... I'm hoping mine is free of the "bug".
>
> Let me know Graham how you get on - if you notice anyhting amiss,
> and what you think of the hypnotist!
Sadly mine is affected, as are all the PAL discs, apparently. It's
only actually noticable during ACOS, though... the main show is
perfect.
Sync problems aside, this DVD is exactly what I needed to remind me
why Dream Theater are the greatest band in the entire fucking
universe.
Oh, and I want to marry that Theresa chick. :-)
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland------------------------------
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:16:59 +0200 From: "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DVD rants Message-ID: <007301c0c339$b692cc80$0600005a@si.arnes.si>
Carlos A. Alfaro missed the point:
> Well i disagree, although im am thoroughly psyched about it, and im > going to buy it whenever its out, i am dissapointed that its not going > to be at least *up to par* with current DVD audio standards.
And the point is that audio selection is a tradeoff. They chose bonus material over fancy features. It's physics really, you can squeeze only as much stuff on it as there's space.Like it or not, deal with it. Personally I'd love to see this DVD to be in all the latest digital audio standards with different mixes, 20 different camera angles, soundboard audio of all our bootlegs and a hidden Jenna Jameson flick, but we get what we get and that's plenty generous of the band as I see it.
BTW: Is the disc one or two sided? Spoil me all you like :)
Matej
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 06:26:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Billy920@webtv.net To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Just a thought Message-ID: <12218-3AD582DE-2516@storefull-175.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
Hey Jammers, I was just thinking .... isn't whining about the DT dvd being n stereo sort of like complaining that the 2 women your having sex with don't have HUGE breasts, I mean c'mon it's Dream Theater crank it up and enjoy. Billy
np Seven Nations-- No Reason "Don't ge me wrong...That's the way it should be"
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 03:56:49 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Just a thought Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010412035608.04059668@pop.business.earthlink.net>
At 03:40 AM 4/12/2001, you wrote:
>Hey Jammers, > I was just thinking .... isn't whining about the DT dvd being n >stereo sort of like complaining that the 2 women your having sex with >don't have HUGE breasts, I mean c'mon it's Dream Theater crank it up and >enjoy.
Are you implying that HUGE breasts are somehow a good thing?
~Chris
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Date: 12 Apr 2001 12:27:29 +0100 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Just a thought Message-ID: <863dbemk7y.fsf@picsel.com>
Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org> writes:
> Are you implying that HUGE breasts are somehow a good thing?
It depends on what you want to do with them.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:55:40 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: dvd stereo **Contains SPOILER** Message-ID: <009f01c0c358$42800b40$efe1f240@crp.org>
>Its a comercial product thats going to be sold, since im going to be paying > for it, i have some expectances about it... nothign wrong with that....
I agree with that, but what I'm saying is wait until you hear it before putting the sound down. Portnoy said it would NOT be 5.1 months ago and the sacrifice was in order to fit in more songs. For example:
**************************************** SPOILER ****************************************
There are more audio tracks than are listed on the tracklist!
*****************************************
SPOILER
*****************************************
joe
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:18:24 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:dt dvd Message-ID: <20010412.121825.-412399.2.kurt.hampton@juno.com>
<My other point is - why not a double DVD ;) Then we could have got all the concert on (not just a paltry two and a half hours!) and maybe some camera angle choices as well.>
Mike said Elektra gave him the smalled "dvd budget" availble. One sided, dual layered. They could have done a double sided disc, or so on.Im happy that this is even happeneing. THink about it How many bands do this:
Studio album IAW ===Live EP ===home video Studio ALbum Awake ===Special EP made possible by us ACOS Studio album FII ===Home video ===double live album Studio album SFAM ===Live DVD/Home video
It seems that after aevery studio album, we get something very special.
THe good news is its not gonna stop. Mike said that *if* sales go well on hte dvd, the label is considereing releaseing LIT and 5YIALY on 1 dvd with bonus stuff. So everyone BUY BUY BUY!
Plus dont forget about the bootleg thing he wants to do out of the DT store.
Its good to be alive
Kurt NP-ACOS 10-14-00 Soundboard!
Kurts Trade Page: www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html Ytsekurt on AOL IM "Cmon Orlando Shake you f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:42:02 EDT From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: You (U) Must (M) Be (B) Crazy (C) Message-ID: <dc.4b663ba.280742ea@aol.com>
Jason "huge middle finger as rendered in the ascii medium" Hartman cited: >>"Save the drama for your momma and PUSH!!"
Heh, I would pay good money to see YOU doing some push-ups! I can't believe you're still around on the jam...
Kevin
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:08:46 -0400 From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: You (U) Must (M) Be (B) Crazy (C) Message-ID: <001e01c0c37b$9eff5060$0300005a@kezp3800>
----- Original Message ----- ]From: <MusicSnob@aol.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:51 PM Subject: You (U) Must (M) Be (B) Crazy (C)
> > Jason "huge middle finger as rendered in the ascii medium" Hartman cited: > >>"Save the drama for your momma and PUSH!!" > > Heh, I would pay good money to see YOU doing some push-ups! I can't believe > you're still around on the jam... > > Kevin >
Heh, and I can't believe you got out of that Volvo long enough to actually read the 'jam......
Yo Snob, wassup? :)
Going to Pittsburgh?
Let me know.
Kez
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:22:38 -0600 From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5817 Message-ID: <B74BA3FD.BC1%twilightzone@mindspring.com>
on 4/12/01 2:07 AM, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
> The people that say "What's the point of a live concert in 5.1?" have > obviously never heard/seen the Eagles "Hell Freezes Over" concert in > DTS. Simply incredible.
Or Metallica's Cunning Stunts! Wow, the 5.1 on that one ROCKS!
> > Well, I guess it IS true that you can't please > > everybody. Dream Theater releases their very first > > DVD, and yet ppl still moan about how it's mixed. "Oh > > man, it's only in stereo.......WAAAAAAAAAAAH!" > > Event though they haven't even heard it yet!
I am greatful of any DT material they make for the fans. But let's face it 5.1 is the standard and we have been moaning about it since they first mentioned that they were doing a show to record for a later DVD release.
Everyone has a problem with a certain DVD released, whether it is missing a certain feature or whatnot. Just because we bitch doesn't mean we are ungrateful, it means that we want the best DVD money can buy. I haven't been reading the other posts but hopefully there some secret bonus material that will make up for the sound.
-corvin
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:18:50 +0200 From: "sdts@sdts.nu" <sdts@sdts.nu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Absence of ***SPOILER*** tags! Message-ID: <3AD637DA.99E2C088@sdts.nu>
Eric George wrote:
> completely agree. granted, if someone had gone through song by song, > special feature by special feature, and described it all to us, then i > could understand being a little pissed. but come on: audio information= , > the fact that there *is* bonus stuff, and whoa you can zoom > too........hardly worth getting your panties in a twist over.
Everyone has a different definition of what's to be considered as spoiler= s, but if people followed the rules regardless of the degree of "spoilness", we wou= ldn't have to discuss it.
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater-S=E4llskapet http://www.sdts.nu - mailto:sdts@sdts.nu
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:34:34 -0400 From: "Denis J. Lanza" <voxman@snet.net> To: <infinityminusone@yahoogroups.com> Cc: <digitalruin@yahoogroups.com> Subject: A new and interesting poll... Message-ID: <004301c0c3ca$a911cca0$730efea9@voxman>
Hey guys and gals: I have created a new and, I feel, interesting poll over at the Infinity Minus One yahoo group site. The topic is "Which of these bands do you think deserves to go farther than they already have." and there is a list of 10 bands that I have chosen to include. You can pick more than one due to the fact that one may feel that several of the bands named deserve more success than they already have. The catch is (and there always is one, isn't there ;) ), that you have to join the Infinity Minus One mailing list to vote. So you can call this listener research AND a membership drive all wrapped up into one neat little package. :) Let the voting commence!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infinityminusone/polls
Yours In Music, Denis J. Lanza Lead Vocalist - Infinity Minus One http://www.mp3.com/infinityminusone http://www.infinityminusone.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infinityminusone
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:40:32 -0400 From: "Denis J. Lanza" <voxman@snet.net> To: <digitalruin@yahoogroups.com> Subject: FW: [infinityminusone] New poll for infinityminusone Message-ID: <004401c0c3cb$7e5bd9a0$730efea9@voxman>
I forgot to include the "official" poll announcement and the choices that are there to vote for in my last email. Please accept my apologies. :(
Yours In Music, Denis J. Lanza Lead Vocalist - Infinity Minus One http://www.mp3.com/infinityminusone http://www.infinityminusone.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infinityminusone
-----Original Message----- ]From: infinityminusone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:infinityminusone@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 11:09 PM To: infinityminusone@yahoogroups.com Subject: [infinityminusone] New poll for infinityminusone
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the infinityminusone group:
Which of these bands derserves to have a bigger record deal and go much farther than they already have? YOu can vote for more than one.
o Digital Ruin o Shadow Gallery o Pain of Salvation o Fates Warning o Symphony X o Infinity Minus One o Power of Omens o Event o October Thorns o Nevermore
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infinityminusone/polls
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above.
Thanks!
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:24:21 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: <jmsouter@airmail.net> Subject: Ice Age - Liberation Message-ID: <001301c0c3d1$9cba2540$0238240a@airmail.net>
Wow. I'm really digging the new Ice Age CD "Liberation". The singer sounds very much like Dennis DeYoung of STYX. Styx was my first favorite band growing up, and I'll always love them. Picture Dennis DeYoung fronting for a progressive metal band....that's what this sounds like! Very tasty stuff. Pick this CD up !
JM
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:39:03 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ice Age - Liberation Message-ID: <3AD682E7.6ACB23AD@optushome.com.au>
Jan-Michael wrote:
> Wow. I'm really digging the new Ice Age CD "Liberation". The singer sounds > very much like Dennis DeYoung of STYX. Styx was my first favorite band > growing up, and I'll always love them. > Picture Dennis DeYoung fronting for a progressive metal band....that's what > this sounds like! Very tasty stuff. Pick this CD up !
He did actually, they were called Styx, listen to some of those mid to late 70's albums from Styx they are quite progressive. The band seemed to be remembered for the ballads like 'Babe', not the great songs on the albums that were way better.
As for Liberation, it was very disappointing and not a patch on the greatness of the their first album.
garahm
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