YTSEJAM digest 5835

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Fri Apr 27 2001 - 20:16:17 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5835

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Nightwish DVD
     by Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
      2) Re: DT News
     by Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
      3) Re: burn in hell ya stinky pirate
     by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
      4) Re: Nightwish DVD
     by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
      5) Re: DT News
     by Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
      6) legal copying?
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      7) DT DVD (spoilers) and Non-DT content
     by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
      8) RE: SPAM ....
     by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
      9) RE: burn in hell ya stinky pirate
     by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
     10) Re: legal copying?
     by Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
     11) RE: burn in hell ya stinky pirate
     by Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
     12) re-introduction
     by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
     13) a spamfree jam?
     by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
     14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5834
     by "Douglas Gray" <douglas_gray@hotmail.com>

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:10:45 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Nightwish DVD
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0104271709470.16769-100000@barrel.ecosoft.com>

    On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Graham Boyle wrote:
    >
    > The DT DVD is going to have to be something very special to top this :)
    >
    > graham

    Oh indeed it is.

    And kudos for CSNOW for shipping it to me before the release date, and 5$
    off.

    Is the nightwish dvd in english? Stupid question perhaps.

    >
    >

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    Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will"
    Escalations Manager
    Shore.net Network Operations Center
    Email:robbm@shore.net
    Phone:781-593-3110 ext181
    Cell Phone: 978-884-6423

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:27:02 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: DT News
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10104271702580.9472-100000@optical.mindstorm.com>

    On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Carlos A. Alfaro wrote:

    > yeah its true...regarding the album sound this is what mike said :
    >
    > "To give you an idea of where I want to take this record, this is the
    > stuff I brought in this time around:
    >
    > Metallica - Master Of Puppets

    See "Burning My Soul."

    > Tool - Aenima

    See "Home."

    > Radiohead - OK Computer

    See "Beyond This Life." There's a spot that's seemingly infuenced
    by Radiohead.

    > Pantera - Vulger (sic) Display Of Power

    See "The Mirror." Also see any I&W concert footage.

    > U2 - Actung Baby

    See "The Way It Used to Be."

    > Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral, Soundgarden -
    > Superunknown......and John Petrucci brought in some Bartok and Rage
    > Against The Machine"

    Was Bartok big into whole-tone stuff? I know Debussy was, which makes me
    think of all the whole-tone stuff on "Overture 1928," but I've always
    wanted to credit that influence to Michael Romeo (Symphony X), seeing as
    he's nutty about hawt, whole-tone akshun. I'm forgetting all the Bartok I
    studied in college. That'd be interesting, along with the NIN seasoning.

    Speaking of Debussy, if any of you want to hear some of the coolest techno
    ever made that happens to be strongly influenced by Debussy, pick up Art
    Of Noise "The Seduction of Claude Debussy." Possibly the best electronic
    album of 1999. I'm not kidding.

    Rick

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:20:59 -0400
    From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: burn in hell ya stinky pirate
    Message-ID: <OE22tGaaBIbLqkTdkIq00005906@hotmail.com>

    >
    > then again you could just say fuck it and go out and buy one of them
    > portable mp3 cd players, burn about 100 songs to a cd in mp3 format and
    > snub your nose at everyone..
    >
    >
    >
    >Yes I do have a cd thats all DT :)

    Hey i do too!! and I got my soul mp3 cd player today too, fuck!!! im so
    happy....

    Petrucci looks like a simpson now, heh. Althou he looks a lot like someone,
    just cant remember who.

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    Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:49:47 +1000
    From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Nightwish DVD
    Message-ID: <3AE9E97B.90825ED@optushome.com.au>

    Robert Muise wrote:

    > Is the nightwish dvd in english? Stupid question perhaps.

    If you mean the menu's etc, yes, everything is in English.

    The concert itself, nearly all the talking on stage is in English.
    The audience were told before the this, as it was being filmed for world wide release.
    The interview with Tarja is in Finnish, but has English subtitles on the screen, Tuomas
    interview is in English.
    The backstage footage is 50/50 English/Finnish and extremely funny.

    Also I have been told their will be a NTSC version of the DVD.

    graham

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:59:21 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: DT News
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0104271759120.18763-100000@barrel.ecosoft.com>

    AHhhhh ok

    Now I feel better....

    :)

    On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Rick Audet wrote:

    >
    >
    >
    > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Carlos A. Alfaro wrote:
    >
    >
    > > yeah its true...regarding the album sound this is what mike said :
    > >
    > > "To give you an idea of where I want to take this record, this is the
    > > stuff I brought in this time around:
    > >
    > > Metallica - Master Of Puppets
    >
    > See "Burning My Soul."
    >
    > > Tool - Aenima
    >
    > See "Home."
    >
    > > Radiohead - OK Computer
    >
    > See "Beyond This Life." There's a spot that's seemingly infuenced
    > by Radiohead.
    >
    > > Pantera - Vulger (sic) Display Of Power
    >
    > See "The Mirror." Also see any I&W concert footage.
    >
    > > U2 - Actung Baby
    >
    > See "The Way It Used to Be."
    >
    > > Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral, Soundgarden -
    > > Superunknown......and John Petrucci brought in some Bartok and Rage
    > > Against The Machine"
    >
    > Was Bartok big into whole-tone stuff? I know Debussy was, which makes me
    > think of all the whole-tone stuff on "Overture 1928," but I've always
    > wanted to credit that influence to Michael Romeo (Symphony X), seeing as
    > he's nutty about hawt, whole-tone akshun. I'm forgetting all the Bartok I
    > studied in college. That'd be interesting, along with the NIN seasoning.
    >
    > Speaking of Debussy, if any of you want to hear some of the coolest techno
    > ever made that happens to be strongly influenced by Debussy, pick up Art
    > Of Noise "The Seduction of Claude Debussy." Possibly the best electronic
    > album of 1999. I'm not kidding.
    >
    >
    > Rick
    >
    >

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will"
    Escalations Manager
    Shore.net Network Operations Center
    Email:robbm@shore.net
    Phone:781-593-3110 ext181
    Cell Phone: 978-884-6423

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:33:08 +0200
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: legal copying?
    Message-ID: <3AE9D784.FACF708F@mol.com.mk>

    > no, because he copies CDs that he already owns. you're
    > allowed to do that. :)
    >
    > legally you can make a backup of it if you already own
    > it. Same goes for videogames.

    Oh really? Well if that's truly the case, that this IS legal, than the
    whole system is a bunch of crap.
    And that is why these copyrights are ridiculous most of the time. That
    is why all mp3s whiners will loose their war.

    If I own it I have right to burn a copy, yadda, yadda, yadda. So I can
    decide to burn 3 copies too, just in case right? You never know. And
    than your pal REALLY begs you to let him have one of the CDRs, and then
    later the other gets stolen, and soon you have a major breaking of
    copyrights law.
    Doh.

    Conclusions I myself draw from all this:
    - I don't really care for the copyrights: I will burn whatever CD I want
    to, I will download whatever mp3 I want to, store them where I want to,
    and I will continue buying original CDs as I want to.

    ------------------------------------------------

    About that SPAM topic, what really pisses me off is the fact that once
    (and still) there were dozens of jam rules, this topic prohibited, that
    thread prohibited, ...
    While all that rules SHOULD exist, it's ridiculous with the shape of the
    jam in the last year. Breaking all those rules would be much better than
    the recent jams. :(
    Bravo for Skadz for keeping the jam going all these years, but better
    something is done fast to resolve this issue.
    Allowing anybody to post to the jam and not having anti-SPAM filters is
    equal to Mailing-List-Suicide.

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:53:42 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: DT DVD (spoilers) and Non-DT content
    Message-ID: <20010427225342.67943.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com>

    Hi all,

    Yep, the new DT DVD is pretty good. KM leads turned
    into reggae? Cool! And how about that opening footage
    featuring Mikey's last colonoscopy? You had to know
    that's what it would look like in there... ;o)

    And speaking of colons, here's a non-DT news article
    someone might find humorous (well, it's better than
    spam).

    ---------

    "In a surprise 8-1 ruling, the Supreme Court ruled
    that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights do not
    apply to ordinary citizens of the United States. "

    US Senate to Vote on Fecal Legislation

    WASHINGTON, April 25 (Rooter News) - The Senate Health
    Services Sub-Committee has unanimously recommended a
    new bill which will create the largest health
    organization in US history. The Federal Fecal
    Contamination Control Act of 2001 will be submitted to
    the full Senate for a vote within the year. The
    details of the law include new enforcement practices,
    and a variety of fines. Representatives of the Federal
    Drug Enforcement Agency have been cooperating in the
    development of the new laws.

    After months of tearful and emotional testimony,
    victims of various diseases, suspected to be caused by
    fecal contamination, have declared victory on this
    serious health hazard. Carol Brady, co-founder of
    Parents Opposed to Opportunistic Parasites (POOP),
    said that this new legislation is long overdue. "We
    have suffered long enough with this hazard, and this
    law must be passed for the sake of our children".

    "Hand washing is just the beginning of this battle,"
    said Dr. Dewey Long during sub-committee testimony.
    Dr. Long, an expert on germs and a well-respected
    authority in the field of surfactant application, is a
    senior fellow at the Procto-Ponds Institute of Soap
    Research, and has been deeply involved in this subject
    matter for years. He stated "We must get a firm grip
    on this national health hazard."

    Religious leaders from around the world were invited
    to testify, and one holy man was quoted as saying
    "cleanliness is next to Godliness, so we fully support
    the new law".
     
    While hand washing has been required of food service
    personnel for years, the new law will go several steps
    further for the public safety. The Federal Fecal
    Investigation Service (FFI) will be created as an
    offshoot of the ATF. Millions of agents will be hired
    within the year to staff the new department. Most
    agents will be assigned to Fecal Verification duty.
    The law will require that an agent be present in every
    public restroom in the United States. Toilet flushing
    will only be performed by an agent, who will verify
    the contents of the bowl, and that the patron performs
    the proper hand-washing afterwards. Hand-washing
    requirements will vary based on the content of the
    bowl. A fine of $1000 will apply to anyone who flushes
    their own bowl, and on the second offense, an illegal
    toilet flusher may be charged with destruction of
    evidence, a felony offense punishable by up to 75
    years in prison.

    Details have not been confirmed, but it has been
    suggested that Bathroom Agents (BA's) may also be
    tasked with testing the contents of the bowl for
    drugs. "A simple and inexpensive test strip will be
    dropped into the commode by the agent, who will
    observe for any evidence of drug use" said Seymour
    Brown, Director of Enforcement Tactics at the FBI.

    Additional clauses in the law will apply to proper
    diaper practices. Parents found to neglect diaper
    changing will be liable for fines, and after multiple
    offenses, children may be taken from parents and put
    into permanent protective custody.

    Within one year, all diaper manufacturers will be
    required to include a "Sanitary Timer" in all diapers.
    This high-tech device will sound an alarm when diapers
    have been contaminated with fecal material, and if
    after five minutes, the diaper is not disposed of in a
    designated receptacle, a violation notice will be
    transmitted directly to the FFI via existing cellular
    phone networks. Initial fines will be $4000, and after
    three strikes, protective custody may be implemented
    at the discretion of the arresting officer. Improper
    diaper disposal will also be punishable by fines of
    increasing amounts.

    The US General Account Office (GAO) has verified that
    the cost of the new program may run into the hundreds
    of trillions of dollars, but Senate spokesman Hart
    Leaky was quoted recently, saying that "no cost is too
    much for the safety of our families and children."
    Other backers of the new law have stated that the cost
    of enforcement will be offset by income from fines and
    fees.

    One reporter present at the sub-committee announcement
    asked if the proposed law might be considered
    unconstitutional. Senate spokesman Hart Leaky replied,
    "we have taken the unprecedented step of presenting
    this issue directly to the Supreme Court for
    pre-judgment. We are fully satisfied that the decision
    rendered by the Court will make our country a safer
    place for our families."

    In a surprise 8-1 ruling, the Supreme Court ruled that
    the US Constitution and Bill of Rights do not apply to
    ordinary citizens of the United States. In the
    majority decision, the court states, "While it has
    been a common misinterpretation that the Constitution
    applies to the average citizen, there is no statutory
    language which explicitly grants such rights. It is
    obvious that the original Founding Fathers did not
    intend the Constitution to apply to slaves, women,
    poor people or the common man. Thus the Constitution
    and the rights guaranteed therein were only applicable
    to the Founding Fathers themselves, who feared
    retribution by the British Authorities. In light of
    the fact that the Founding Fathers are now all dead,
    the US Constitution is no longer relevant." In short,
    the new law will not violate the rights of anyone, as
    those rights no longer exist.

    Expecting a slower than normal caseload, the Supreme
    Court announced yesterday that they would leave early
    this year for summer recess.

    The number of people who die each year from fecal
    related illness has not been determined, but some guy
    who wandered into the Senate hearing said that the
    number of fatalities would decrease by 117% within 4
    years of implementation of the new law. Several other
    people testified that once they started washing their
    hands after using the restroom, they felt a lot
    better. Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass), a well-known
    supporter of colorectal legislation, stated "I have
    the evidence I need, let's wipe out this problem once
    and for all!"

    The only group opposed to the Fecal Contamination
    Control Act is the American Civil Liberties Union
    (ACLU), who want assurances that the new laws will not
    be used in a discriminatory manner.

    In related news, shares of soap manufacturers
    Procto-Gambel (PGSH) were up 23.4 and shares of Diel
    Industries (DIL) were up 265.2 after the announcement
    of the tough, new hand washing laws. The biggest gains
    were seen by high-tech company Dynamicrodoody Systems
    (DUDU +472.2), the patent holder on the "Sanitary
    Timer", which will become mandatory on all sanitary
    products within the year.

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:19:41 -0500
    From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: SPAM ....
    Message-ID: <00ed01c0cf70$8a1df600$3364a8c0@klindt.org>

    One mailing list I'm on (specifically the Exchange mailing list on
    www.swynk.com) allows you to subscribe but not receive mailings. This is
    mainly so that folks can have the mailings going to a public folder, but
    they can also post from their individual account when they want to.

    Is there such an option with the Ytsejam?

    tk

    -----Original Message-----
    ]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
    Ryan P Skadberg
    Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:45 AM
    To: Multiple recipients of list
    Subject: SPAM ....

    Hi All ...

      I heard some rumors that people are complaining about the SPAM. I
    will work this weekend to get the SPAM filters in place which will cut
    down/get rid of all the SPAM.

      A number of people have asked me in the past why we do not enforce the
    subscriber only posting. The reason is that alot of people have
    multiple email addresses that they post from and only 1 is subscribed.
    Ken and I talked about this a long time ago and its easier to leave this
    off than turn it on, trust me.

      Hopefully alot of the SPAM will go away after this weekend. When you
    have problems like this, please email me and I will work on em, don't
    just get all up in arms on the list.

    Skadz

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:21:54 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: burn in hell ya stinky pirate Message-ID: <00ee01c0cf70$d95f4480$3364a8c0@klindt.org>

    I know the Kenwood Excelon line has this option. They have support for a CD changer, but if you don't have a changer, you can buy a $20 adapter that plugs into the change jack, but has RCA jacks for an external input. I've used it. It works pretty well.

    tk

    Todd O. Klindt, MCSE todd@klindt.org "Remember, the government doesn't create one dollar. When you get a dollar, that means the government took it from someone else." -Governor Jesse Ventura

    -----Original Message----- ]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of Souter, Jan-Michael Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: burn in hell ya stinky pirate

    No can do on my in-dash CD player......... It would be cool if we had RCA plugs on the front of CD players that we could plug external devices to.

    JM

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:38:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: legal copying? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0104271935130.18763-100000@barrel.ecosoft.com>

    On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, CyberDuke wrote:

    > > > no, because he copies CDs that he already owns. you're > > allowed to do that. :) > > > > legally you can make a backup of it if you already own > > it. Same goes for videogames. > > Oh really? Well if that's truly the case, that this IS legal, than the > whole system is a bunch of crap. > And that is why these copyrights are ridiculous most of the time. That > is why all mp3s whiners will loose their war.

    They will never stop trading of files.

    > > If I own it I have right to burn a copy, yadda, yadda, yadda. So I can > decide to burn 3 copies too, just in case right? You never know. And > than your pal REALLY begs you to let him have one of the CDRs, and then > later the other gets stolen, and soon you have a major breaking of > copyrights law. > Doh.

    To be honest, I've never ever had someone beg me to burn a cd for them so they could geto ut of buying it. At the very least they will download an mp3 to check it out. most of the Copyright hoohaa is from speculation, whatifs, and theories. The fact is that record sales are not declining. period.

    > > Conclusions I myself draw from all this: > - I don't really care for the copyrights: I will burn whatever CD I want > to, I will download whatever mp3 I want to, store them where I want to, > and I will continue buying original CDs as I want to.

    well yea basically. But I support every artist I listen to. It is ridiculous to think that i should buy 2 cd's if I want to keep it at work to listen to, instead of just saving mp3's there.

    > > ------------------------------------------------ > > About that SPAM topic, what really pisses me off is the fact that once > (and still) there were dozens of jam rules, this topic prohibited, that > thread prohibited, ... > While all that rules SHOULD exist, it's ridiculous with the shape of the > jam in the last year. Breaking all those rules would be much better than > the recent jams. :( > Bravo for Skadz for keeping the jam going all these years, but better > something is done fast to resolve this issue. > Allowing anybody to post to the jam and not having anti-SPAM filters is > equal to Mailing-List-Suicide. > >

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Escalations Manager Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:robbm@shore.net Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:40:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: burn in hell ya stinky pirate Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0104271939560.18763-100000@barrel.ecosoft.com>

    I've kept my in dash radio a cassete so that I have the freedom to expand.

    On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Todd O. Klindt, MCSE wrote:

    > > I know the Kenwood Excelon line has this option. They have support for a CD > changer, but if you don't have a changer, you can buy a $20 adapter that > plugs into the change jack, but has RCA jacks for an external input. I've > used it. It works pretty well. > > tk > > Todd O. Klindt, MCSE > todd@klindt.org > "Remember, the government doesn't create one dollar. > When you get a dollar, that means the government > took it from someone else." > -Governor Jesse Ventura > > -----Original Message----- > ]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Souter, Jan-Michael > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:00 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: burn in hell ya stinky pirate > > > > No can do on my in-dash CD player......... It would be cool if we had RCA > plugs on the front of CD players that we could plug external devices to. > > JM > > >

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Escalations Manager Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:robbm@shore.net Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:27:50 -0400 From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: re-introduction Message-ID: <NDBBILFDMLAOFPHHDPJIAEKNCBAA.szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>

    Hey, cool! According to the welcome message I got when I subscribed, DT has a new album coming out on October 26!!!! Wow, I can't wait. I wonder what it will be like! :P

    After about a year of absence, I'm back on the 'jam (in light of the release of the AMAZING DVD and video). After reading 2 digests, I'm already ready to unsubscribe. Reasons being: little/no interesting traffic (especially considering the video finally came out). Most/all the posts being not only from the same people, but the same people who eat up lines and lines of text by posting entire messages for a one-line reply. Or even worse, things like this:

    > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------ > > > > > Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" > > > > > Escalations Manager > > > > > Shore.net Network Operations Center > > > > > Email:robbm@shore.net > > > > > Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 > > > > > Cell Phone: 978-884-6423 > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > Robb Muise What do we want? > > > "Brains!" > > > Network Monitoring Manager When do we want them? > > > "Brains!" > > > PRIMUS Managed Hosting Solutions > > > Email:robbm@primushost.com > > > Phone:781-586-6181 > > > Pager: 1-888-995-6645 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------------------------------------------- > Robb Muise What do we > want? "Brains!" > Network Monitoring Manager When do we want > them? "Brains!" > PRIMUS Managed Hosting Solutions > Email:robbm@primushost.com > Phone:781-586-6181 > Pager: 1-888-995-6645

    To the above, I have done no editing whatsoever. THIS is the CHUNK in which it appeared in the last digest. What a waste of space. This, to me, is even worse than spam.

    Yes, I realize I just wasted that much space and more. But it was in an effort to see that we don't get FOUR instead of three stacked on top of eachother in the next jam.

    > >I dont know if any of you have seen the pics over at JP.com but check it > >out,John finally cut his hair off...Its all good in my book,hair doesn't > >matter,its all about the music... > > > >http://www.johnpetrucci.com/photos.html

    Looks good to me. Reminds me of when I cut all my hair off. I'll never look back. All I can really say is that it looks great, and it's about friggin' time.

    > No can do on my in-dash CD player......... It would be cool if we had RCA > plugs on the front of CD players that we could plug external devices to.

    I have no RCA jacks, but I do have an 1/8" input. I would get a portable mp3 player and listen in my car...if only mp3's didn't sound like total shit.

    > > A number of people have asked me in the past why we do not enforce the > > subscriber only posting. The reason is that alot of people have > > multiple email addresses that they post from and only 1 is subscribed. > > Ken and I talked about this a long time ago and its easier to leave this > > off than turn it on, trust me.

    I have great difficulty justifying why anyone would need to be subscribed on multible email addresses. If someone could explain this to me (seriously) I'd appreciate it. I mean, if you just can't bear to be without your 'jams while you're at work (or away from work), then read TCP/IP for dummies, find out what a freaking telnet session is, or just learn to wait until you can get to your damn email. I'm all for subscribers-only posting.

    As far as the spam is concerned (now that I have vented), I'm prepared to sit back and not complain anymore until we see how Skadz's spam filters do. I wish them the best of luck.

    take care, Steve Z

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    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:40:29 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: a spamfree jam? Message-ID: <3AEA036D.F0476E74@optonline.com>

    a spam-free jam would be great!

    cuz what we have now is pretty much a jam-free spam. :)

    seriously though, it seems to me my interest in the jam started to wane last year around when the spam started kicking in. But the damage may have already been done - once you've joined the portnoy community, it's hard to come back to this except for us hardcore, asskicking fans. I guess we'll see what happens.

    -josh

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    Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:05:01 -0000 From: "Douglas Gray" <douglas_gray@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5834 Message-ID: <F108utSgcOrBLSAQV6u00005850@hotmail.com>

    Graham,

    That's why after ten years in Aberdeen I moved down south - so I could attack all the drunken Glaswegians down here instead of the other way round ;)

    >Here's my tried-and-tested solution for paying off your debts: > >1. Go to the pub on a Friday night and get quite drunk. >2. Walk home from the pub. >3. Get attacked by a couple of nasty teenagers - suffer a bruised > nose and broken front tooth. >4. Report the assault to the police. >5. Go to the hospital to find out if your nose is broken. >6. Get your dentist to fix your broken tooth, and keep the receipt. >7. File an application for compensation from the Criminal Injuries > Compensation Authority. >8. Have your application rejected, due to your being "uncooperative" > with the police enquiry. >9. Appeal again the rejection, pointing out that you did in fact > fully cooperate with the police at all times. >10. Receive a cheque for £1200. >11. Pay off your credit card. :-) > >-- >Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd >graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland > >

    JM,

    A completely reactionary statement on my part to the constant debt spam with absolutely no thought/consideration whatsoever to people who actually have debts and are looking for ways to ease them (although a lot of people who offer these sevices are complete scam-merchants!)

    >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:03:34 -0500 >From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> >To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: reviews >Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33A93@ISDCRE00> > > >Sad thing is that I've read MORE reviews about the DT DVD over on the >Symphony X list (Teof) and The Black Hole (Tbh) list on YahooGroups than >the >official DT list :/ how messed up is that?? heh > >Debt is hard to avoid especially after a drawn-out divorce like I had. >blah > > JM >

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