YTSEJAM digest 5829

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Wed Apr 25 2001 - 11:52:10 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5829

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: email vs web
     by "Dark Majesty" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
      2) DVD (No spoilers)
     by IAmClay777@aol.com
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5826
     by Jean V Ramos <tazzola@juno.com>
      4) DVD question... ***semi-SPOILERS***
     by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
      5) DT has VERY bad memory...
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" <calfaro@yunque.net>
      6) Re: Band Forums == ass-kissing (ATTN: Inflamatory Post)
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com>
      7) Re: email vs forums
     by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
      8) DVD Thoughts
     by "Jack Szumski" <dtfanjack@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      9) DVD
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     10) Refill for less 24577
     by mark@umdac.umu.se
     11) Are you paying to much for inkjets?
     by acidbert@hotmail.com
     12) You Are Cordially Invited.
     by email@blizzardrecords.com
     13) Where can I get Met.2000 video?
     by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
     14) Transatlantic
     by Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
     15) G3 DATES - Joe Satriani, Steve Vai & John Petrucci
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     16)
     by TUVwebtraffic@yahoo.com
     17) Mayfair,Horizon's End
     by "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
     18) satch/vai/petrucci
     by "Niklas Thorpenberg" <031-7049409@telia.com>
     19) RE: Tunnel Vision
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
     20) What We've All Been Waiting For.......At Last 13810
     by 98degree@ireland.com

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:11:55 -0500
    From: "Dark Majesty" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: email vs web
    Message-ID: <F48euV8ZKOXotaJVVum00005177@hotmail.com>

    If I remember correctly, Skadz (or someone else in the YtseAdministration)
    said that there is no way to block people that aren't subscribed to the list
    from sending letters in, so there is really no way to block the spam. It's
    not Skadz's fault, and there's really not much he can do about it!

    --96

    ----------Original message----------
    I'm beginning to think
    that if Skadz won't get the spam off the list he either needs to give up his
    admin status to someone who will or someone needs to start up a nospam
    jam.>>>>>>snip>>>
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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:21:00 EDT
    From: IAmClay777@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: DVD (No spoilers)
    Message-ID: <be.1344a27d.28139a0c@aol.com>

    Hey guys, just got the DT DVD from CDnow, and it's fucking amazing! Without
    giving the exact contents, let me just say that the band's performance is
    totally on, probably the best ever, the direction is great, and it just looks
    great overall. Very good length and options. Most of you will get it in a few
    days anyway, so everybody will know the contents soon
    enough...Wow...incredible.

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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:35:21 -0400
    From: Jean V Ramos <tazzola@juno.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5826
    Message-ID: <20010421.133522.-364003.0.tazzola@juno.com>

    > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:44:47 -0400
    > From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
    > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5825
    > Message-ID: <3AE02F3F.4AB6C6E9@optonline.com>
    >
    >
    > it might be alarming to see us thinning out, but mike's site brings
    > so much to the table. And now that Ask Mike really works, on top of
    > the other stuff... what's not
    > to like?
    >
    > In fact I was suprised to learn that he hasn't even hit the 1,000
    > subscribers mark. But it's pretty close.
    >
    > And there's also the forum on dreamtheater.net, which seems to be
    > pretty popular.
    >
    > Hell, even james has a forum!
    >
    > Now, I don't want to turn this into some kind of epic battle, but
    > has anyone considered turning the ytsejam into a web forum? Mike's
    > page has shown what can happen if
    > you build one, and it has tons of DT info, but it does tend to
    > concentrate on portnoy a lot of the time. James' of course is mostly
    > about him...and the
    > dreamtheater.net one seems to be more of a "rest of the world" kind
    > of thing.
    >
    > Why can't we build a similar site...but with the focus on DT and us
    > the fans as a club? Hell, I 'd do it myself if I had the ability.
    >
    > -josh
    >

    Great idea, but you try doing that for the Linux kernel people, which I
    dedicate a Netscape e-mail address to!

    TONS of people are on that list...I get at least 60 to 80 messages per
    day on that list.
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    Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:39:28 -0700
    From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: DVD question... ***semi-SPOILERS***
    Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010421093737.034d9540@pop3.norton.antivirus>

    I noticed during the credits, after thanking a ton of people (including
    several people from here), there is a big "No special thanks to Terry
    Brown". I wonder what that was about? Were they mad that he wouldn't come
    out to the show to play the hypnotherapist?

    ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
    "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
    >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<<
    >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<<
    >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<

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    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:12:25 -0400
    From: "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" <calfaro@yunque.net>
    To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: DT has VERY bad memory...
    Message-ID: <3AE61669.2F258860@yunque.net>

    ******************Possible Spoilers*******************

    I was just watching the DVD, with the commentary option, and during the
    intro/strange deja vu they kept referring to the *96* version of
    metropolis... AFAIK Images was released in 93 not 96 :)
    Damn, theyre getting old or something!!

    The DVD rocks so far!!! The only gripe i have are some of the
    live action sequences that look cheesy as hell...specially the sex
    (lol!)

    Aside from that im on hell of a happy camper... this dvd is a gem.
    I loved the full ACOS ...wow.. and learning to live WOW again... simply
    awesome...

    to those who were there, did they do multiple takes of some songs? since
    they knew they were taping for the dvd and all?

    Carlos A. Alfaro
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    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:10:42 -0600
    From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Band Forums == ass-kissing (ATTN: Inflamatory Post)
    Message-ID: <005101c0cbd5$60c1cc80$414153d8@washburn>

    I dunno. Sometimes I sit back and wonder why I even still subscribe to this
    thing. The 'jam is hard to read, full of spam, full of BS posts, full of
    regurgitated crap, and I can't remember the last time I found a meaningful
    piece of information in the last couple of months. To me, subscribing to
    the 'jam is like beating a dead horse anymore. :p

    Yes, that stuff appears in the MP.com forum, too, but it's >easy< to weed
    through it. Threads usually stay on topic, there's usually not three pages
    of quotes with a one-liner comment at the bottom, and the most recent news
    always seems to end up there first. :p Not to mention alot of old-school
    jammers have defected over that way.

    Band Forums, imo <> ass-kissing in any way. Not to me. Sure, there's
    plenty of people on the Forum that get woodies when Pornoy posts anything,
    but what's different? People used to do it when he posted anything here,
    too. :p

    --
    KorgX3 blinds his slap much too wank shaft.
    

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    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:21:17 -0400 From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: email vs forums Message-ID: <OE259ny7BXx4XFKpRcT00003923@hotmail.com>

    One dumbass question coming at ya, how do I get on USENET??

    thanks bye

    ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Todd Klindt" <todd@klindt.org> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: Re: email vs forums

    > > One more vote for email as opposed to web based. Actually, for this type of > stuff, I prefer USENET, but I'll take email over a web forum any day. > > tk

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    Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:51:53 -0400 From: "Jack Szumski" <dtfanjack@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DVD Thoughts Message-ID: <77989AB403735D11EA620005B87A5027@dtfanjack.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    Hey jammers, Now that the new Dream Theater DVD is currently in your DVD player I was wondering what comments would be made. I have watched the Concert SFaM part at Full volume of course, listened to the Band narrative and enjoyed the Fan, Crew and show comments. I love the way Mike put older tracks not performed as background music during that part. So, let the feedback begin. Later, Jack

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    Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:34:38 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DVD Message-ID: <3AE36A8E.E453CF8E@mol.com.mk>

    So what's up with that, still no new relese date?

    BTW, can't figure out something. If it's region free why is there NTSC / PAL versions, and than the PAL one got messed up? Can't I play for example the DVD bought in America on my region 2 DVD player? If I can, what's all the fuss with NTSC/PAL, correct/bad versions? :(

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    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:29:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Where can I get Met.2000 video? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0104241227090.23270-100000@ux10.cso.uiuc.edu>

    I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a good place to get the Met.2000 video. All the online places I have seen only carry the DVD. Not having the resources to invest in a DVD player, I just want the video. I went to the local store where I got 5 years in a Livetime on the day of its release, and they only had the DVD, too. Can anyone help?

    Robert Taylor rctaylor@uiuc.edu http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rctaylor

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    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:11:14 -0400 From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Transatlantic Message-ID: <2.2.32.20010424171114.012a6658@gwis.com>

    Hi, folks:

    The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm>. Meanwhile here are some excerpts you might appreciate.

    Available now from Radiant Records <http://www.artist-shop.com/radiant> Transatlantic/Live in America Transatlantic/Live in America ....VHS-NTSC Transatlantic/Live in America ....VHS-PAL ]From Neal Morse (Spock's Beard), Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater), Roine Stolt (Flower Kings) and Pete Trewavas (Marillion), this double CD is the full Transatlantic live show with a cover of Genesis' "Firth of Fifth" and the Beatles "Strawberry Fields Forever" as well as most of the songs from their first CD. With an 8 page full color package, complete with liner notes from each member, this collection is sure to be a strong seller so be sure to get yours now! Also available in both NTSC and PAL format is the Transatlantic Live in America video! soundbite <http://www.artist-shop.com/radiant/america.ram>

    IQ/The Seventh House IQ's new CD "The Seventh House" - This new CD from the leaders of the British neo-progressive rock movement is another masterpeice that is sure to satisfy their legions of fans. Full stop. In the same bag as Marillion and Genesis, this fine new CD features the 16 minute epic "The Seventh House". soundbite <http://www.artist-shop.com/radiant/seventh.ram>

    Coming soon from Magna Carta <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna> Tempest/Balance The high-energy Oakland, California-based band features a Norwegian singer with a double-necked mandolin, a Cuban drummer, an electric fiddle virtuoso, an imaginative bassist, and a guitarist with a penchant for heavy rock pyrotechnics. Together, these gifted musicians sculpt uplifting sonic art equally steeped in Celtic, Pan-European and American influences. In the last 12 Tempest has released nine CD's and played more than 1,000 shows. With an approach that finds it alternating between bringing folk music to its knees and rocking like the possessed, Tempest's records and gigs receive consistent worldwide critical acclaim. Their newest release, Balance, is produced again by Robert Berry who also lends his talents on B3 Hammond organ, synthesizer and harmony vocals. soundbite <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna/balance.ram>

    Shadow Gallery/Legacy Legacy is the latest release from Shadow Gallery featuring guitarist Brent Allman, vocalist Mike Baker, bassist Carl Caden-James, keyboardist Chris Ingles, drummer Joe Nevolo and multi-instrumentalist and producer Gary Wehrkamp. While a more song oriented album than the previous Tyranny concept piece, the classic Shadow Gallery elements are all still in place, the sweeping keyboards, barrage of guitars and solid drumming. And all of it climaxes on the 34 minute epic, First Light. soundbite <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna/legacy.ram>

    Available now from Magna Carta <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna> Ice Age/Liberation Progressive rock bands seem to go through creative life cycles unparalleled outside of this inventive genre. And Ice Age are no exception to the rule, caught in a whirlwind of advancement towards that hallowed zone where craft and wizardry become honed and restrained, an astonishing leap in confidence woven into the album at hand called Liberation. soundbite <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna/liberate.ram>

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    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:12:19 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: G3 DATES - Joe Satriani, Steve Vai & John Petrucci Message-ID: <3AE597D3.1DFBB434@mol.com.mk>

    Damn you lucky bastards! :)

    Is there any chance getting later boot recordings from these gigs?

    >From Steve Vai site: ======================================================

    June 23 - Reno NV [Reno Hilton Pavilion] (indoors)

    June 24 - Las Vegas NV [House of Blues]

    June 26 - Phoenix AZ [Celebrity Theater]

    June 27 - Anaheim CA [Sun Theater]

    June 28 - San Diego CA [Humphrey's Concerts By The Bay]

    June 29 - Los Angeles CA [Wiltern Theater]

    June 30 - San Francisco CA [Warfield]

    July 01 - Kelseyville CA [New Classic Concert Showroom]

    July 03 - Denver CO [Fillmore Auditorium]

    July 04 - Santa Fe NM [Paolo Soleri Amphitheatre]

    July 05 - Fort Worth TX [Bass Performance Hall]

    July 06 - Houston TX [Aerial Theater]

    July 07 - Austin TX [Austin Music Hall]

    July 09 - Detroit MI [DTE Energy Music Theater]

    July 10 - Chicago IL [Riviera Theater]

    These are all of the dates we've confirmed so far, but please remember that everything in the world is tentative. More shows in other areas may be announced and will be posted ASAP upon confirmation. Tickets for all shows will be (or, in some cases, already are) available from Ticketmaster. ======================================================

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    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:25:31 +0300 From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Mayfair,Horizon's End Message-ID: <3AE5387A.ABB4D6B9@mail.ntua.gr>

    Anyone got cds of the above bands? Was told they were progressive,somehow different from what's already out

    there.Could use a second opinion.Thanks in advance.

    ps:Where's my digest dammit?Did the ytsejam move and someone forgot to tell me?Didn't mind when ,my family pulled that one on me but the jam? Come on party people. Fnarp!

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    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:23:24 +0200 From: "Niklas Thorpenberg" <031-7049409@telia.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: satch/vai/petrucci Message-ID: <000c01c0cc97$d5301500$3d7641d5@NiklasThorpenberg>

    Hey!

    Got this from the Vai.com newsletter:

    BIG NEWS!

    Get ye quickly to http://www.vai.com/news/updates.html! This summer, G3=20 is back with Joe Satriani, Steve Vai and John Petrucci -- go to the=20 updates page for the first wave of dates!

    How cool is that?

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    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:07:35 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> Subject: RE: Tunnel Vision Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B339E8@ISDCRE00>

    Speaking of Tunnel Vision, I have their CD. Good stuff !

    JM

    > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Needham > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:56 AM > Subject: Timo's solo CD... > > Hey X'rz...I have been sitting on this for a few weeks; Timo gave me the > go ahead to put it out, so read, and rejoice! Am I the only one who thinks > this project is going to kick WHOLE TRUCKLOADS of ass?!?!?! :-)) > > Matthew > ___________________________ > > Hi Matthew! > > How is it going ? > > I just wanted to let you know that you can release the info > about my solo album... > The list of players is: > > Guitars: Mike Romeo (Symphony X), Roland Grapow (Helloween), > Arjen Lucassen (Ayreon), Sami Virtanen (Joe Doakes) > Bass: Jari Kainulainen (Stratovarius) > Drums: Mirka Rantanen (Tunnel Vision), Gas (HIM) > Keys: Janne Warman (Children of Bodom), Mikko Harkin (Sonata Artica) > > No title yet. More info later... > > Take Care! > > Timo Kotipelto > >

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