YTSEJAM digest 5942

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Sat Aug 25 2001 - 07:34:58 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5942

    Today's Topics:

      1) Prog Rock Newsgroup wanted
     by "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
      2) Vai too rehearsed
     by Fielding Mellish <verdi777ar@yahoo.com>
      3) repetition
     by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
      4) Re: Angularity
     by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
      5) ProgDay 2001
     by The Original Irish Bastard <irish_bastard@bombshelter.ca>
      6) Vai too rehearsed
     by MAD1661@aol.com
      7) prog horoscope
     by "Bruce Forst" <bforst@peoplepc.com>
      8) Re: Angularity
     by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>

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    Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:44:00 +0300
    From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
    To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Prog Rock Newsgroup wanted
    Message-ID: <000901c12d52$da4e0940$bedf6693@----->

    Does anyone know of any good prog rock newsgroups?
    And send the angular playing mail to the list Mr Ptacek

    flower power!

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    Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:02:54 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Fielding Mellish <verdi777ar@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Vai too rehearsed
    Message-ID: <20010824160254.71224.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com>

    I think when you plan a mini tour like G3 did.(I went)
    you can't be different each day. It needs a lot of
    training to play..and noone want to make mistakes in
    this band. So the only way to feel secure is doing the
    same each night.
    I understand that..also each day was in a different
    city. If you tell me they will play 3 nights in your
    town then you can expect more..but like this no.

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    Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: repetition
    Message-ID: <20010824181711.74845.qmail@web12103.mail.yahoo.com>

    Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com> wrote:

    > What I'm trying to get across is that Vai appeared
    to be going
    > thru the motions, seeing as *everything* was exactly
    the same. I mean
    > for God's sake, he could've said something
    different/unique
    > at each show instead of the same generic blanket
    statements

    Well, there's always two sides...

    On the one hand, a "music" performer usually only says
    a few scattered things. It seems a little ridiculus
    for them to repeat the same two short "jokes" or
    phrases or gags every night.

    On the other hand, other live performers (comedians,
    plays, etc.) repeat themselves night after night. It's
    expected to be pretty much the same every time.

    I'm not sure why musicians are treated differently in
    this respect...

    my $.02, BH

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    Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:52:12 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Angularity
    Message-ID: <20010824185212.77836.qmail@web12103.mail.yahoo.com>

    Mauricio asked:

    > But if you have another way of explaining this
    angular
    > playing....i'd sure like to hear it.

    Maybe I can add to this...

    Main Entry: an7gu7lar
    Function: adjective
    1 a : forming an angle : sharp-cornered b : having one
    or more angles
    2 : measured by an angle <angular distance>
    3 a : stiff in character or manner : lacking
    smoothness or grace b : lean and having prominent bone
    structure

    Angular is often used as an adjective to describe
    music or guitar playing. It is based on definition 3a
    above. More simply, it means "non-melodic" (i.e. no
    traditional or easily accessible melody)

    my $.02, BH

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    Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:53:57 -0400 (EDT)
    From: The Original Irish Bastard <irish_bastard@bombshelter.ca>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: ProgDay 2001
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10108241453300.24190-100000@bombshelter.ca>

    Hey everybody,

            My name is Sean McFee, and I'm writing from the ProgDay
    organization. ProgDay is a festival of progressive music that has been
    taking place since 1995. This year's edition promises to be one of the
    best yet, with a line-up running the gamut of progressive styles and an
    unparalleled outdoor environment.

    WHEN: Sept. 1-2 ... only EIGHT DAYS AWAY

    WHO: Pain of Salvation (playing their only North American appearance)
            The Flower Kings
            Arsnova
            The Muffins
            Azigza
            YETI
            Sigmund Snopek III
            Polydactyl

    ALSO: Friday night pre-show, with Uncle Gut, Smokin' Granny and Man on
              Fire, and a Saturday night club gig featuring the return of
            Crucible with a live show and their new album! Also, playing
             between sets, virtuoso guitarist Shawn Persinger.

    WHERE: Chapel Hill, NC at Storybook Farm

            For more information, head to www.progday.com. Summer's almost
    over, so why not end it with a long weekend of thirteen progressive music
    acts, prog vendors (over a dozen including the Laser's Edge and
    Syn-Phonic), outdoor fun and like-minded fans?

            Hope you'll join us in just under two weeks.

    Regards,

    -- 
    Sean McFee
    

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    Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:36:23 EDT From: MAD1661@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Vai too rehearsed Message-ID: <121.334e994.28b814c7@aol.com>

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    just wanted to let you all know.... Steve spent 2 days rehearsing for the tour...

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    Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:24:48 -0500 From: "Bruce Forst" <bforst@peoplepc.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: prog horoscope Message-ID: <003501c12d0d$1eb3a900$08f73e3f@oemcomputer>

    from the onion, i thought it might apply to a few here:

    todays horoscope:

    Cancer: (June 22--July 22) Quelling the unrest in the forest will severely limit the time you can spend with your prog-rock band this week.

    Bruce

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    Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 02:48:37 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Angularity Message-ID: <00ed01c12d3a$5a064d00$3faaf094@compaq.net.mx>

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hansen" <bhansen10@yahoo.com>

    > 3 a : stiff in character or manner : lacking > smoothness or grace b : lean and having prominent bone > structure > > Angular is often used as an adjective to describe > music or guitar playing. It is based on definition 3a > above. More simply, it means "non-melodic" (i.e. no > traditional or easily accessible melody)

    I had this idea that angular playing was something like playing with very weird note groupings, or something along those lines. And once in a while, throw a couple of notes outside the center key. Like Chris said, Gilbert and Petrucci play mostly with some definite note groups: 16ths, sextuplets, etc...and make any pattern with any werid number. But people like Vai are much more expressive, i say, because of the way they play. Windows to the Soul, or Touching Tongues are VERY different than Erotomania or Hell's Kitchen. JP has some angular playing on some songs...like ToT...but he was in "Holdsworth mode", not being his usual self.

    There's gonna be a Gilbert clinic in a week here in my hometown. I might ask him about this, just to know his opinion....maybe he'll dodge my question and unacknowledge this "angularity" term!

    Mauricio

    About the definition 3a, above..."lacking smoothness or grace"? Tell them to hear Tender Surrender!

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