YTSEJAM Digest 5777
Today's Topics:
1) The final argument 'bout napster- end of story
by "Eyal Ben David" <eyalbd@yahoo.com>
2)
by "Dan Russell" <drussell@umtownship.org>
3) Re: ...
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
4) Re: ...
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <prog@yunque.net>
5) Re: ...
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
6) Re: ...
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
7) Re: TA boots
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
8) Re: ...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com>
9) Re: ...
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
10) Re: Napster
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
11) still counterfeit
by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
12) metropolis NT
by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
13) Re: ...
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@xinu.irv.concentric.net>
14) Charlie Farrell (off topic)
by =?iso-8859-1?q?Agostino=20pepon?= <agostinox@yahoo.com.ar>
15) Re: still counterfeit
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
16) DT DVD cancellation
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
17) Stupid Question Time
by MTeiper@aol.com
18) DC Cooper, incomprehensibility
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@mail.wm.edu>
19) Re: ...
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
20) Re: ...
by "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
21) Re: ...
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
22) Sticking it to the man / Soilwork
by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
23) Re: Sticking it to the man / Soilwork
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
24) New Marillion song on MP3.com!
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5776
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:09:50 +0200
From: "Eyal Ben David" <eyalbd@yahoo.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The final argument 'bout napster- end of story
Message-ID: <001d01c09dcc$36a2c4e0$53e0cbc7@w2j3t2>
My final (and second) word about Napster is this:
Whatever you shall argue, it doesn't matter.
The technology is here. There are a lot more progs (the most important one:
Gnutella) which cannot be shut down for they have no servers.
The Revolution has started, whether you like it or not. so you, and the
record companies, will have to except it. They have to learn to use the
Technology instead of sueing it.
Believe me, you can't change the course of the past, you have to look to
the future. And the future is H.E.R.E.
Chewy out
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:31:58 -0500
From: "Dan Russell" <drussell@umtownship.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c09dcf$4d247580$88c809c0@pc136>
Speaking of Delays...did anyone get their DT Easter Fan Cllub CD Yet?? Let
me know.
Daniel C. Russell
Recreation Superintendent
Upper Merion Parks and Recreation
(610)265-1071
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:41:14 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: ...
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010223124025.048a97f0@pop.tinagh.org>
> > > > ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!
> > > >
> > > > YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME.
>
>I had no idea something awful was so popular..
I just have no idea what people are talking about...
~Chris
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:05:03 -0400
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <prog@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: ...
Message-ID: <3A96D07F.1074DB90@yunque.net>
http://www.slackbastard.net/~polaris/AYB2.swf
Chris Oates wrote:
> > > > > ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!
> > > > >
> > > > > YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME.
> >
> >I had no idea something awful was so popular..
>
> I just have no idea what people are talking about...
>
> ~Chris
--Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. Box 29742 San Juan, PR 00929 Tel(787) 281-6660 Fax (787) 281-7888 =============================== Internet Solutions, Inc. - Offering quality Internet products and services Access- Dedicated and dial-up, ISDN, Web Hosting, E-commerce, Networking
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:56:08 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ... Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010223135544.0483cba0@pop.tinagh.org>
At 01:18 PM 2/23/2001, you wrote:
>http://www.slackbastard.net/~polaris/AYB2.swf
Damn, that was pretty funny!
~Chris
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:59:27 +1100 From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: ... Message-ID: <002601c09dec$4a8a6380$728336cb@PaulTadday>
WE HaVe BEEn InfilTRAtED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:09:16 -0800 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: TA boots Message-ID: <3A96ED9C.9DC83A3E@ucla.edu>
Ya know, I'm starting to think it was a mistake to say I wasn't interested when the stage manager at Progfest offered me and my friend a DAT of the show, including the performance by TransAtlantic, if we gave him our addresses. And yes, he was the stage manager, not just some weirdo perv, because he took us backstage and introduced us to Neal and the guys. D'oh.
~~Amanda
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:58:44 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: ... Message-ID: <002901c09df4$b7a922f0$2f4153d8@washburn>
TAKE OFF EVERY 'ZIG!'
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:14:30 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ... Message-ID: <3A970AF6.5AF02CAB@yunque.net>
Paul Tadday wrote:
> WE HaVe BEEn InfilTRAtED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > AAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME! --
Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. Box 29742 San Juan, PR 00929 Tel(787) 281-6660 Fax (787) 281-7888 =============================== Internet Solutions, Inc. - Offering quality Internet products and services Access- Dedicated and dial-up, ISDN, Web Hosting, E-commerce, Networking
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:24:36 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Napster Message-ID: <20010224002436.1524.qmail@web12106.mail.yahoo.com>
"Dan McCormack" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU> queried:
> what i want to know is where napster makes their money, under their > current system.... > how do they become a multi-million dollar corporation > when they have no visible means of income?
Damn, don't you know that you're not supposed to ask questions like that? The Stock Market might implode if anyone finds out...oops, too late.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:34:44 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: still counterfeit Message-ID: <3A9701A4.864D4D08@optonline.com>
>Since there is no real $200 bill made, the phony >bill passer could not be charged with counterfitting.
i don't think so. whether a real $200 bill exists shouldn't matter, it's the fact that someone is claiming something as currency. It would be just as illegal to say an orange is legal tender.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:38:57 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: metropolis NT Message-ID: <3A9702A1.727DEBC0@optonline.com>
>I guess the next delay will be to rename it Metropolis 2002...or maybe >Metropolis XP
He could call it metropols NT 4.0, and release it in 5 years.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:33:37 -0800 From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@xinu.irv.concentric.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ... Message-ID: <20010223163337.A15046@xinu.irv.concentric.net>
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 04:28:38PM -0800, Carlos A. Alfaro wrote: > > > > Paul Tadday wrote: > > > WE HaVe BEEn InfilTRAtED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > AAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > FOR GREAT JUSTICE! > > YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME! > --
MAIN SCREEN TURN ON
IT'S YOU
HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMAN?
> > > Carlos A. Alfaro > Internet Solutions, Inc > P.O. Box 29742 > San Juan, PR 00929 > Tel(787) 281-6660 Fax (787) 281-7888 > =============================== > Internet Solutions, Inc. - Offering quality Internet products and > services > Access- Dedicated and dial-up, ISDN, Web Hosting, E-commerce, Networking > >
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:22:08 -0300 (ART) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Agostino=20pepon?= <agostinox@yahoo.com.ar> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Charlie Farrell (off topic) Message-ID: <20010224012208.3411.qmail@web5204.mail.yahoo.com>
I'm looking for an old friend, Charlie Farrell. If you are still a member of this list write me.(I've lost your addy)
See ya!! Agustin.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:53:01 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: still counterfeit Message-ID: <3A97220D.A9939580@yunque.net>
yes it would still be illegal but i believe that in order for someting to be counterfeit, it has to be a copy of an original, and if there is no original 200$ bill, then technically it wouldnt be counterfeit...
Joshua Rasiel wrote
> >Since there is no real $200 bill made, the phony > >bill passer could not be charged with counterfitting. > > i don't think so. whether a real $200 bill exists shouldn't matter, > it's the fact that someone is claiming something as currency. It would > be just as illegal to say an orange is legal tender.
--
Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. Box 29742 San Juan, PR 00929 Tel(787) 281-6660 Fax (787) 281-7888 =============================== Internet Solutions, Inc. - Offering quality Internet products and services
Access- Dedicated and dial-up, ISDN, Web Hosting, E-commerce, Networking
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:32:42 -0500 From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT DVD cancellation Message-ID: <20010223.230552.-377971.1.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>
>Hey. Anyone fucking pissed because they got an email from CDNow about their order of the DT DVD >being cancelled because it is deleted from their catalog?! I am! Strangely enough....I searched CDNow >and it seems to still be available although now it's backordered (it wasn't when I ordered it) and it's >only 20% off as opposed to the 30% off it was when I ordered it. WHAT THE FUCK!!!! Anyone know >anything about this?
Although I could very well be wrong, I think there are some sort of consumer protection laws that "should" guarantee that you get the dvd for the 30% off it was orginally advertised for, assuming you ordered it prior to the price change.
If that doesn't work, bitch loud enough and anybody will cave. (you shoulda seen some of the stunts people pulled while I worked at Wal*Mart)
-Dan. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:35:09 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Stupid Question Time Message-ID: <8c.2d145d2.27c893fd@aol.com>
In a message dated 02/23/2001 6:21:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< > > > ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US! > > > > > > YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME. > > > > WHAT YOU SAY !! > > MOVE 'ZIG.' FOR GREAT JUSTICE. > > I had no idea something awful was so popular.. >>
Okay, I've been seeing stuff like this all over the place lately here and at MP.com, and I have no f**king idea what it means. :-) Can someone elighten me, please?
Thanks... Matt T.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:32:06 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@mail.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DC Cooper, incomprehensibility Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010223180909.00ae7cb0@mail.wm.edu>
. and you thought English didn't have long words!!
>Anyone else really like DC Cooper's solo album? I think its absolutely awesome... Amazing voice. He's >also a guest on Explorer's Club with JLB and a Shadow Gallery CD. (Tyranny I think)
Well, I can't say that I really like his solo album, since I've only heard two songs off it. :) I really do think he has an amazing voice... kind of ironic since I usually really love bass-baritones. But man can he sing. As it is, those two songs I did hear are awesome. I ordered the CD off CDnow, finally sent in the payment (yeah delayed paycheck!) and promptly got an email stating my payment was received, then a quick follow-up saying the DC Cooper album was on BACKORDER (sound familiar anyone?), and something to the effect of God knows when it will be delivered. Quite infuriating. Any suggestions on constructive means to vent my frustration, apart from engaging in morally and legally questionable activities in order to assuage my need for a music fix?
And finally,
>ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US! >YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME. >WHAT YOU SAY !! > >MOVE 'ZIG.' FOR GREAT JUSTICE. > > >I had no idea something awful was so popular..
What the monkey is all this ?? Someone needs to clue me in on this reference.
feeling yet again like the last to know, Alex
There are exceptions, I'm sure, but the Windows 2000 on-line community seems to have, in general, the moral and spiritual qualities of your average porn site. (c) Bryan Pfaffenberger, Linux Journal, Jan 2001.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:55:23 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0102240053110.20280-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
The thing which some of you are baffled about is from a game for Genesis called "Zero Wing." It was apparently a VERY bad translation job from Japanese to English, hence the "SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB" phrases and such. You can see a screen shot of the entire opening sequence to the game at http://oz.plymouth.edu/~a_couter/zerowing.gif
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ ------------------------------------------------- "The rule which forbids ending a sentence with a preposition is the kind of nonsense up with which I will not put." - Winston Churchill -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:05:23 -0500 From: "Matt Molite" <ytsejam11@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ... Message-ID: <399CD4797F905D11EA810005B8CC3ED3@ytsejam11.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
> > > ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US! > > > > > > YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME. > > > > WHAT YOU SAY !! > > MOVE 'ZIG.' FOR GREAT JUSTICE. > >
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING?
Matt
"Seek the hidden rhyme and there you'll find a new world order Feel the mystery - so much to see through the eyes of hope" - Symphony X Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:02:25 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ... Message-ID: <3A975C81.82E0B41@optushome.com.au>
Matt Molite wrote:
> YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING?
One line reply and a 6 line signature, plus the original text, this is getting as exciting as watching grass grow.
Please no more, even the napster debate is more exciting than this.
graham
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:09:10 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Sticking it to the man / Soilwork Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010224024844.00ac88a0@cs.millersville.edu>
Alex O'Connell wrote:
>I ordered the CD off CDnow, finally sent in the payment (yeah delayed >paycheck!) and >promptly got an email stating my payment was received, then a quick >follow-up saying the DC Cooper album was on BACKORDER (sound familiar >anyone?), and something to the effect of God knows when it will be >delivered. Quite infuriating. Any suggestions on constructive means to >vent my frustration, apart from engaging in morally and legally >questionable activities in order to assuage my need for a music fix?
Personally, I cancel just about any backordered items I get with CDNow (seems to happens every other order). The DC Cooper is pretty widely available on the web. Check out...
http://www.dreamdisc.com/ ($16) http://www.sentinelsteel.com/ ($12) http://www.lasercd.com/ ($13)
Those are all great vendors, and there's many more out there. CDNow is, generally speaking, a quality vendor, but it ain't the end-all-be-all of internet-based music distribution. Personal attention is good.
Has anyone else heard the new Soilwork album, "A Predator's Portrait" yet? Wow. Picture a slightly proggier version of In Flames, a nice combo of harsh and clean vox.
Brian
[NP...Soilwork -- A Predator's Portrait]
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:34:01 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Sticking it to the man / Soilwork Message-ID: <3A9771F9.3323A03F@optushome.com.au>
WB Henderson wrote:
> Has anyone else heard the new Soilwork album, "A Predator's Portrait" > yet? Wow. Picture a slightly proggier version of In Flames, a nice combo > of harsh and clean vox.
Yup I have and it's very good indeed. It's got a great sound, kinda like death metal meets some old fashioned thrash, but very modern sounding.
The added bonus is that some of the clean vox is supplied by no other than Mikael Åkerfeldt from Opeth.
graham
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:24:20 +0100 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl> To: "Thoughts" <thoughts@spocksbeard.net>, <Spocks_Beard@yahoogroups.com>, Subject: New Marillion song on MP3.com! Message-ID: <000c01c09e65$182f1c40$0100007f@localhost>
Hey guys,
Marillion has just uploaded a FREE eight minute MP3 of "This is the 21st Century" to MP3.com...
This song is taken off their upcoming album "Anoraknophobia", which is scheduled for release on May 7th, 2001.
You can check out the song at: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/219/marillion.html
Thought you guys might be interested... It's such a beautiful song, I can't stop listening to it. Please help spread the word... :-)
For more info on Marillion, check out http://www.marillion.com/
Mark Bredius ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.TRANSATLANTICweb.com/ Double Live Album out in March New *Exclusive* MP3 available at: http://www.PorcupineTree.com/ http://www.DreamTheater.net/ Live DVD/VHS out on April 24, 2001 The Official Spock's Beard Website: http://www.SpocksBeard.com/ http://www.HappyCoupons.com/ Coupons for your favourite stores
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:41:09 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5776 Message-ID: <20010224.084110.-344491.0.kurt.hampton@juno.com>
Random thought-
What if the internet did not exist? We would have no clue about the pre production of the dvd, release date on cd's etc etc....
Im sure there are some old timers here who remeber the days of walking into a cd store and saying "whoah, Maiden has a new cd out, lemme get it" Now if the cd comes out 2 weeks later than posted or osmething, everyone gets in an uproar.
Kurt
Kurts Trade Page: www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html Ytsekurt on AOL IM "Cmon Orlando Shake you f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00
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