YTSEJAM Digest 5746
Today's Topics:
1) Van Halen
by Jonathan.Agar@henderson.com
2) Re: advice appreciated.....
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
3) Re: Mobile melodies
by "UTWPDEHG.UTPOEHG1;.vargaa"
4) Re: cell phones....
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
5) Cell Phone Themes
by James <imroadie@yahoo.com>
6) KFC Head/VH/HGttG-NDTC
by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
7) Re: Cell Phone Themes
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com>
8) KFC Head
by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
9) Re: KFC Head/VH/HGttG-NDTC
by Robb Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
10) FW: KFC Head
by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
11) RE: KFC Head
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
12) RE: Cell Phone Themes
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
13) RE: KFC Head
by Robb Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
14) Re: Ice Age + Cairo advice...
by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
15) Re: Hitchhikers game...
by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
16) Re: Mobile Phones ...
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
17) Re: NAMM Show
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
18) Re: Mobile Phones ...
by Robb Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
19) RE: KFC Head
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
20) HitchHiker
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5744
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
22) Re: HitchHiker
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
23) Re: Ice Age + Cairo advice...
by Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk>
24) Re: Cherone in VH; Cairo or Ice Age?
by "Phil Carter" <phil@usefulware.com>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:56:58 +0000
From: Jonathan.Agar@henderson.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Van Halen
Message-ID: <002569DF.0037709A.00@mailhost.henderson.co.uk>
> >
> > > lastly why is it that Sammy still gets all the shit, has everyone
forgot
> > the
> > > disaster named Gary Cherone? I guess by that time, EVH's ego about
> > ditching
> > > band members is old hat.
> >
> > I must be the only one who liked Gary Cherone in VH. :p
>
> No, you're not. I would go so far as to say that he's second to Hagar,
> but better than Roth.
>
>
> >
> Amen to that. Once is such a powerful & stirring song. Everything about
> it (the progressions, the rhythm, vocals, the solo) reeks with emotion.
> Deffinetly the high point of the album, followed by Year To The Day and
> ]From Afar.
>
> Van Halen's best albums though, have to be Balance & OU812. F.U.C.K. is
> pretty close too. Oh, & then there's 5150.......damn.......
>
> -ryften
>
-oOo-
How many die-hard VH fans like Balance? I think it's their best album ever, but
sales weren't so great. OU812 is right up there too, but I only like In And Out
and Poundcake on F.U.C.K. And, for that matter, do occasional VH fans like
Balance? I know Derek always lists the first 5 VH albums as his greatest
influence, but let's face it, Diver Down is, to put it mildly, not their best
work.
Jonathan
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:32:32 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: advice appreciated.....
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010125022654.03b74e50@pop.tinagh.org>
At 11:51 PM 1/24/2001, you wrote:
>This is the last post for the evening, honest. I was going to redeem a
>free cd that i'm getting through cdnow, and I was wondering which one of
>these two would be better to go with.
>
> Ice Age "The Great Divide"
> Cairo "Cairo"
Cairo: Prog Rock with lots of keyboards, reminiscent of ELP with
guitars. No heavy distortion, double bass or traditional "metal"
elements. I think of them as ELP crossed with early Asia (especially in
the vocals)
Ice Age: Prog Metal with a very Styx-esque dramatic flair. Keyboard solos,
intrumental random riffage, chicken samples, high but full (i.e. not thin
and whiny) vocals with lots of vibrato.
Got em both, like em both, but I end up listening to Ice Age more. Which
is best for you depends more on what you like.
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:49:00 -0500
From: "UTWPDEHG.UTPOEHG1;.vargaa"
To: marianogil@eresmas.com, ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Mobile melodies
Message-ID: <200101251201.EAA16653@fugazi.torchsong.com>
Hi,
My collegaue has an excerpt of 'Home' as default ring on his 3310. Must have
been very difficult to write it, but it makes me smile every time I hear it
ringin'.
Andras
>>> Mariano Gil 1/25/2001 0:36:42 >>>
Hi there!!
Well, we are all prog-fans, aren't we? And many of you know a lot about
composing music, don't you?
So, why can't we all make an effort and create some good melodies for our
mobile phones? I'm tired of hearing "Livin' la vida loca" or "In the navy"
when I walk along the street. Or, what is worse, a song from a spanish
"singer", the worst I've ever listened to (Julio will definitely know of
whom I'm talking about....).
I'd really love having a melody which fitted my personality and my (our)
tastes. But I can't find any good rock melody for my Nokia 3210.
Then, why don't you experts try to develop some good melodies? Or some
impressive graphics? It would be a real pleasure having a DT logo and/or a
piece of a famous rhyme in my phone. Don't you think so?
Well, please, at least think about it.
NP: Edge of Thorns - Savatage
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:33:28 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: cell phones....
Message-ID: <20010125.073433.-20393.2.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
Hey,
I seem to remeber LTEtabs on the mp.com forum programmed his Nokia to
play the Dance of Eternity......
Kurt
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:07:51 -0800 (PST)
From: James <imroadie@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Cell Phone Themes
Message-ID: <20010125150752.1859.qmail@web5101.mail.yahoo.com>
I always thought the piano intro to Wait For Sleep
would make a great melody for a cell phone...
.and on the Douglas Adams discussion, it really
doesn't surprise me that Prog fans would be Adams
fans.
In fact, it seems almost fitting, somehow...
That's it for my semi-annual de-lurk...
Later!
Jim aka Roadie
NP: Emerson, Lake & Palmer-Then & Now
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:29:26 -0800
From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: KFC Head/VH/HGttG-NDTC
Message-ID: <001b01c086eb$fc755b80$574b010a@winstar.com>
>Now, mind you, I don't really know how many Buckethead fans there are out
>there on the 'jam, but if there are any real die-hards floating around,
>then maybe you can help me out. I'm looking for someone who has a copy of
>the disc "Dreamatorium". It goes under the name of Death Cube K (which
>was just an anagram for Buckethead), and it is, to my knowledge, out of
>print. It's supposed to be one of his most incredible solo works, and I
>would kill to find someone who had it and was willing to make a copy of
>it. Well, here's hoping.........-ryften
Rick Audet is the biggest Buckethead fan I know. Maybe he could help
you. Yo Audet, you still on the Jam?
Anyone who is expecting to hear "Colma" from any other Bhead cd is
going to be in for a big surprise. His live shows are great! I videotaped
a great two hour show here in Seattle.
Has everyone heard that he plays in G-n-R now? Like that's going to
challenge him any...
VH-Loved Sammy years, but his solo stuff since, blows.
Loved the idea of Gary in VH, but I think III suffered from
bad song writing. The concert was very good.
HGttG-Never read it.
>This is the last post for the evening, honest. I was going to redeem a
>free cd that i'm getting through cdnow, and I was wondering which one of
>these two would be better to go with.
Ice Age "The Great Divide"
Cairo "Cairo"
Buy one, get one free!
Trevor
NP-Yngwie Malmsteen-War to End All Wars
(never thought I'd hear Yngwie play Reggae!!!)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:39:00 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Themes
Message-ID: <001d01c086ed$58e6b660$0201010a@chuck>
> I always thought the piano intro to Wait For Sleep
> would make a great melody for a cell phone...
I've always thought Ytsejam would be the best. :)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:48:25 -0800
From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: KFC Head
Message-ID: <001f01c086ee$a3762020$574b010a@winstar.com>
I'm looking for someone who has a copy of
the disc "Dreamatorium". It goes under the name of Death Cube K (which
was just an anagram for Buckethead), and it is, to my knowledge, out of
print. -ryften
Well Disembodied is available at CDNow.
There are several copies of Dreamatorium on ebay and spun.com. Cheap, too.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:56:23 -0500
From: Robb Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: KFC Head/VH/HGttG-NDTC
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010125115604.0181c048@pop.ecosoft.com>
buckethead in gnr...
man...
There's a corpse rolling in its grave somwehere...
At 08:44 AM 1/25/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >Now, mind you, I don't really know how many Buckethead fans there are out
> >there on the 'jam, but if there are any real die-hards floating around,
> >then maybe you can help me out. I'm looking for someone who has a copy of
> >the disc "Dreamatorium". It goes under the name of Death Cube K (which
> >was just an anagram for Buckethead), and it is, to my knowledge, out of
> >print. It's supposed to be one of his most incredible solo works, and I
> >would kill to find someone who had it and was willing to make a copy of
> >it. Well, here's hoping.........-ryften
>
>Rick Audet is the biggest Buckethead fan I know. Maybe he could help
>you. Yo Audet, you still on the Jam?
>Anyone who is expecting to hear "Colma" from any other Bhead cd is
>going to be in for a big surprise. His live shows are great! I videotaped
>a great two hour show here in Seattle.
>Has everyone heard that he plays in G-n-R now? Like that's going to
>challenge him any...
>
>VH-Loved Sammy years, but his solo stuff since, blows.
> Loved the idea of Gary in VH, but I think III suffered from
> bad song writing. The concert was very good.
>
>HGttG-Never read it.
>
>
> >This is the last post for the evening, honest. I was going to redeem a
> >free cd that i'm getting through cdnow, and I was wondering which one of
> >these two would be better to go with.
> Ice Age "The Great Divide"
> Cairo "Cairo"
>
>Buy one, get one free!
>
>Trevor
>NP-Yngwie Malmsteen-War to End All Wars
> (never thought I'd hear Yngwie play Reggae!!!)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:56:15 -0800
From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: FW: KFC Head
Message-ID: <000001c086ef$bbada900$574b010a@winstar.com>
sorry, their on half.com, not spun.com although
spun is a great place for used cds.
-----Original Message-----
Well Disembodied is available at CDNow.
There are several copies of Dreamatorium on ebay and spun.com. Cheap, too.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:49:16 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
Subject: RE: KFC Head
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1551@ISDCRE00>
No offense but I'm not to keen on a guy who's trademark is playing guitar
with a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken upsidedown on his head. LOL
So, does he cut out little eye holes too? Mouth hole ?? Now ya got me
curious.
JM
p.s. ahhh who cares.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trevor Hoit [SMTP:thoit@winstar.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:55 AM
> Subject: KFC Head
>
>
> I'm looking for someone who has a copy of
> the disc "Dreamatorium". It goes under the name of Death Cube K (which
> was just an anagram for Buckethead), and it is, to my knowledge, out of
> print. -ryften
>
> Well Disembodied is available at CDNow.
> There are several copies of Dreamatorium on ebay and spun.com. Cheap, too.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:50:03 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Cell Phone Themes
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1552@ISDCRE00>
I'm waiting for the Nokia phones that will play Midi.........then I could
program that "Ytsejam for Classical Piano" on it...........
JM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Korg Ecksthrey [SMTP:korgx3@enchantize.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:55 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: Cell Phone Themes
>
>
> > I always thought the piano intro to Wait For Sleep
> > would make a great melody for a cell phone...
>
> I've always thought Ytsejam would be the best. :)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:32:45 -0500
From: Robb Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: KFC Head
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010125133135.01828420@pop.ecosoft.com>
Sheyit...
with the way he plays he could play wearing nothing but a hollowed out
honey baked ham and I'd listen to it...
-Robb
Who's been raping napster users of various buckethead songs so he can
groove at work today..
=)
"Look at the size of those shoes"
At 10:00 AM 1/25/2001 -0800, Souter, Jan-Michael wrote:
>No offense but I'm not to keen on a guy who's trademark is playing guitar
>with a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken upsidedown on his head. LOL
>So, does he cut out little eye holes too? Mouth hole ?? Now ya got me
>curious.
>
> JM
>
>p.s. ahhh who cares.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trevor Hoit [SMTP:thoit@winstar.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:55 AM
> > Subject: KFC Head
> >
> >
> > I'm looking for someone who has a copy of
> > the disc "Dreamatorium". It goes under the name of Death Cube K (which
> > was just an anagram for Buckethead), and it is, to my knowledge, out of
> > print. -ryften
> >
> > Well Disembodied is available at CDNow.
> > There are several copies of Dreamatorium on ebay and spun.com. Cheap, too.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:07:24 -0500 (EST)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Cc: edgeorge@geneva.edu
Subject: Re: Ice Age + Cairo advice...
Message-ID: <m14Lrjw-000IR1C@mail.interzone.com>
>
>This is the last post for the evening, honest. I was going to redeem a
>free cd that i'm getting through cdnow, and I was wondering which one of
>these two would be better to go with.
>
> Ice Age "The Great Divide"
> Cairo "Cairo"
>
>I've listened to sound clips from both, but they were off the magnacarta
>site, and the quality was pretty poor. If anyone else is familiar/into
>either one of these bands, then please let me know a little more about
>them & their sound. Private email works fine, but maybe others on the
>'jam would want to know about these bands as well. Thanks a bunch.
>
Cairo concentrates on the keyboards as the lead instrument,
kind of in the style of ELP but with fewer good melodies (though they
have an occasional good melody such as in "Silent Winter"). The CD
has some pretty cool keyboard work here and there. Overall, their sound
is fairly light. I think I'd like them better if their vocals would
improve. The vocalist just doesn't do much for me -- he has a mid-
to high-pitched voice and it comes across as a fairly soft delivery
most of the time. He occasionaly adds a bit more power (again in
"Silent Winter") which helps but it's not quite enough.
Ice Age has a somewhat heavier sound with more use of guitar
and a somewhat darker keyboard sound. The keyboard isn't used as a
lead instrument as often as on the Cairo CD. They are a bit closer in
sound to DT than Cairo, due to the melding of the keyboards and
guitar (don't expect DT here though). Their vocalist could also
be better, but I think I prefer him to Cairo's vocalist. He sings
with a bit more emotion and has a bit more of a typical prog-metal
singing style (which I'm not all that fond of really). He doesn't
try to get too annoyingly operatic or scream too much though which
is good. The songs on this CD start sounding a bit the same after
a while, and none really stand out as a classic, but it's pretty
good overall.
All IMHO of course. :)
Steve
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:13:30 -0500 (EST)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Hitchhikers game...
Message-ID: <m14Lrpq-000IR1C@mail.interzone.com>
>
>At 02:22 PM 1/24/2001, you wrote:
>>p.s. oh, just saw few replies on that post, but nevermind. Glad to see
>>so many Douglas fans.
>>BTW, what's that game you speak about? I found 1 game, with entering
>>words and questions and that's all, nothing visual, graphic ... I'm sure
>>there
>
>The hitchhiker's game was text-only, and first came out in 1984 or so. I
>remember playing it in middle school, which places it at 1983 to 1987 time
>frame. It was absolutely hilarious and very challenging, but only covers
>up to the landing on Magrathea in terms of the book continuity. Still, if
>you have a decent attention span, its 200% better than most games out there
>today, and this is coming from a 3D game programmer...
>
Yeah, I remember playing that on an Apple IIe. The Infocom games
were always fun, though frustrating at times. I never was able to get
past being on the ship and on that boat on the planet. It seemed like
it was a dead-end at that point.
What games do you program? Having played EverQuest quite a
bit I've wondered what it would be like to work on a massively multi-
player game like that. I do network programming for a living and
thought it would be cool to see how games like EQ handle optimizing
the networking stuff.
Any other EQ players out there?
Steve aka Grimmor Ravenheart aka Invicitus aka Staccato aka Sivas
35th season Cleric
Erollisi Marr + Morell Thule
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:54:48 EST
From: DTGirl2612@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Mobile Phones ...
Message-ID: <5f.1007df1d.27a1de88@aol.com>
<< From: "Mariano Gil" <marianogil@eresmas.com>
So, why can't we all make an effort and create some good melodies for our
mobile phones?
>>
I have the beginning of DT's 'Another Day' as the ringing tone on my cell
phone!
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:54:51 EST
From: DTGirl2612@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: NAMM Show
Message-ID: <96.f2b32f4.27a1de8b@aol.com>
Hey guys!
Didn't anyone here (apart from myself) go to the Ernie Ball Music Man All
Star Jam with John Petrucci, Steve Morse and Tony Levin (using his funk
fingers) etc, at the Coach House in San Luis Capistrano last Friday night? I
imagined (obviously) that there would be at least a few of you trying to
outdo each other with your reviews on that event ... ;-)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:00:39 -0500
From: Robb Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Mobile Phones ...
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010125150001.0187ecf0@pop.ecosoft.com>
you will email me the ring tone
*waves hand in jedi like fashion*
This is not the ringtone that you seek....
=)
At 12:02 PM 1/25/2001 -0800, DTGirl2612@aol.com wrote:
><< From: "Mariano Gil" <marianogil@eresmas.com>
>
> So, why can't we all make an effort and create some good melodies for our
> mobile phones?
> >>
>
>I have the beginning of DT's 'Another Day' as the ringing tone on my cell
>phone!
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:40:55 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
Subject: RE: KFC Head
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1560@ISDCRE00>
So since Mr. Buckethead wears that mask and the KFC bucket over his head, is
there any truth to the rumor that Buckethead is really George Lynch ??? and
doesn't want anyone to know ?? hAHAHAhaaha
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Doyle [SMTP:rdoyle@diabetes.org]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: KFC Head
>
> Or the chickens will take over!!!
>
>
>
> >>> Barry Marks <Bearjams@earthlink.net> 01/25 1:42 PM >>>
> I have the understanding that he has three eyes and if the Bucket is
> removed there could be devastation of cataclysmic proportions and the
> secrets of the mulitverse will be revealed :^)
>
> Bear
>
>
>
> At 10:12 AM 1/25/01 , you wrote:
>
> >Ya know, I was wondering if I was the only one who thinks this is the
> most
> >ridiculous gimmick ever? If the guy is the shredder that people say he
> is,
> >why would he need this?
> >
> >*confused*
> >
> >Matthew
> >
> >Souter, Jan-Michael writes:
> >
> > > No offense but I'm not to keen on a guy who's trademark is playing
> guitar
> > > with a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken upsidedown on his head. LOL
> > > So, does he cut out little eye holes too? Mouth hole ?? Now ya got
> me
> > > curious.
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
> > > p.s. ahhh who cares.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Trevor Hoit [SMTP:thoit@winstar.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:55 AM
> > > > Subject: KFC Head
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for someone who has a copy of
> > > > the disc "Dreamatorium". It goes under the name of Death Cube K
> (which
> > > > was just an anagram for Buckethead), and it is, to my knowledge, out
> of
> > > > print. -ryften
> > > >
> > > > Well Disembodied is available at CDNow.
> > > > There are several copies of Dreamatorium on ebay and spun.com.
> Cheap,
> > too.
> > >
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:06:00 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: HitchHiker
Message-ID: <3A706B08.2DCB7A38@mol.com.mk>
Wow, I never managed to get out of the room damn it. :)
Is there some guide about the game, ... because I really don't have a
clue how to get out of the room after waking up. I remember I was
missing the door and hitting the wall bacsue of feeling dizzy or
whatever. :)
It gets annoying when you get stuck.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:44:54 -0600 (CST)
From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5744
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.31.0101251442410.78386-100000@black.weeg.uiowa.edu>
>but seriously, that band has had more rumor, speculation, & indecision
>surround them when it comes to who's gonna' be the next singer. there wa
>talk including people from david coverdale to (get this one)....carly
>simon????? that would have been interesting.
maybe ed should've asked patty smyth of scandal again :P
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:46:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: HitchHiker
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0101251645270.16275-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, CyberDuke wrote:
> Wow, I never managed to get out of the room damn it. :) Is there some
> guide about the game, ... because I really don't have a clue how to
> get out of the room after waking up. I remember I was missing the door
> and hitting the wall bacsue of feeling dizzy or whatever. :) It gets
> annoying when you get stuck.
The newer version of the Infocom stuff (like the one I had) had a help
tips program built in. All you had to do was type hints or help and it
would pop up a window. Conversely, you could type HINTS OFF and it
wouldn't help you at all, which is good for people with no self-control.
:) I myself was never very good at the game so I used the help feature a
lot.
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
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If you try and don't succeed, cheat. Repeat
until caught. Then lie.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:51:02 +0100
From: Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Ice Age + Cairo advice...
Message-ID: <0027f0557211911PCOW035M@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> Ice Age "The Great Divide"
>> Cairo "Cairo"
>is good. The songs on this CD start sounding a bit the same after
>a while, and none really stand out as a classic, but it's pretty
>good overall.
> All IMHO of course. :)
I havn't heard Cairo, so I won't even mention it...
but I recommend Ice Age! I think this one is a really great CD, and I am
(and have been for a while) looking forward to their next release, which
will be sometime this year.
IMO, there is no bad song on TGD, all the tracks are really great! My
favourites off the album are 'Ice Age' (a really good 10-minutes piece),
'Because Of You' and the instrumental 'Spare Chicken Parts' (notice the
sample from 2001: A Space Odyssey!)
< flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://www.oddvar.org/ - ICQ: 3253879 >
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:04:45 -0500
From: "Phil Carter" <phil@usefulware.com>
To: Scenes From a Ytse <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Cherone in VH; Cairo or Ice Age?
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010125164204.00b20330@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
KorgX3 remarked:
>I remember hearing stories about him [Cherone] being able to sing
>over the band in concert without a microphone in Extreme.
They weren't just stories, either. During the "III Sides" tour (front row
seats, what a great show that was), the sound guy managed to lose mic
amplification during part of "Decadence Dance", so Gary just cranked up his
volume a bit more until he was audible again. Great set of pipes on that
guy, and an excellent frontman too.
ryften inquired:
>This is the last post for the evening, honest. I was going to redeem a
>free cd that i'm getting through cdnow, and I was wondering which one of
>these two would be better to go with.
> Ice Age "The Great Divide"
> Cairo "Cairo"
As far as I'm concerned you can't go wrong with either disc. Depends on how
you like your prog.
Cairo is built around the epic songwriting and virtuoso
keyboard/synth/piano/Hammond organ work of the multitalented Mark
Robertson, one of the best writers and keyboardists on the planet. His
Emerson influences are very obvious (bits of "The Ruins at Avalon's Gate"
sound like they were ripped off from "Tarkus", but MAN can that guy play.
And there are so many layers of keyboards that you'll hear something new
every time you listen to the disc. Guitars, bass, and drums are all
competent, but Robertson is the real standout. Vocalist Bret Douglas
irritates some people, but I think he's quite solid. High tenor voice with
very little vibrato. If there is a complaint about this band it's usually
that the songs can tend to wander a bit, musically (there are six tunes on
the first disc, and if I remember right only one of them is less than 10
minutes long). Epic stuff, in other words. Obvious influences: Yes, ELP.
Ice Age is more of a prog metal band than prog rock. The music is a lot
heavier, with blistering guitars and a crunching rhythm section. It's
difficult to pick out which of the four members is the most talented -- Hal
Aponte on drums gives Portnoy a run for his money with complex rhythms,
while Arron DiCesare on bass keeps a nimble and powerful low end going,
Jimmy Pappas (guitars) tosses off intricate solos and crunchy rhythm work,
and Josh Pincus's soaring vocals and tasteful keyboards float over it all.
Pincus has an incredible voice, somewhat reminiscent of the fellows in
Styx, but powerful as hell and with his own unique stamp. Fantastic vocals.
The band does occasionally fall into the trap of "complex music for complex
music's sake" but for the most part they write impeccably tight stuff.
Obvious influences: Dream Theater, Styx.
Honestly, I think both bands are worth listening to. Both of them are now
in the studio working on their next releases, and I'll be picking up both
when they come out. As always, your mileage may vary.
cheers,
Phil
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