YTSEJAM Digest 5869
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5868
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
2) Re: Jordan's solo (not) on the DVD
by "Rob Tameo II" <rtameo@erols.com>
3) regarding Live Album
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
4) Live DT album
by "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com>
5) Triple live
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
6) Live and new e-mail address
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
7) Live CD
by "Joe DeAngelo" <joe.deangelo@home.com>
8) new live album/ Non DT content
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
9) Quick & EZ Debt Consolidation 19052
by crane@123india.com
10) Re: Yet Another DT Live Album...
by "Metzger, Mark" <Mark.Metzger@comverse.com>
11) Re: Live is Cool but ....
by "Metzger, Mark" <Mark.Metzger@comverse.com>
12) Oh no my friend Pearl Jam are not ripping you off
by Steve & Ros Arthur <stevenros@cwcom.net>
13) 3 cd live
by rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
14) Re: Live DT album
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:23:27 -0600
From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5868
Message-ID: <B73E0CAF.ECC%twilightzone@mindspring.com>
on 6/1/01 10:53 PM, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed what Pearl Jam has done? Next time you're in a
> store that has lots of CD's for sale, take a look at the Pearl Jam
> section. They released every show on their last tour. Each one is a 2 CD
> set with barebones packaging, but the price is only $12-$15. The North
> American concerts are in brown packages, and European concerts are in
> white.
You have it backward, the European are brown packages, and US are white. 75
shows from the US's 2 legs. The last show of the tour (Seattle) being 3
CD's for $14. Not bad at all. Ingenious really.
I wish OFB would do the same. I personally didn't buy "live on 2 legs" but
when I found the show I went to this past fall, I picked it up. There is
something cool about having the actual show you were at on CD. With CD
quality sound, not bootleg quality.
I just wish someone had the DT Bogart's show in Cinci, from Feb. of last
year. The show where SFAM was played in its entirety. Any help out there?
How about Tesla at Bogart's from 3/01?
-corvin
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:11:46 -0400
From: "Rob Tameo II" <rtameo@erols.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Jordan's solo (not) on the DVD
Message-ID: <003101c0eb2a$e7fac8e0$be86fea9@sandcastle>
>> This just about makes up for Jordan's solo NOT being on the DVD
>WHAT??????????? (*&^%()@&%*@)%&@ Is that true???
At one point during the show in Boston, the whole stage went dark,
except for a light on Jordan. He had a big-ass solo, at the end of which
the TV screens humorously proclaimed "Jordan is also available for parties
and weddings" I was kind of expecting that outtake to appear on the DVD,
but maybe they thought it would break the continuity.
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:48:58 -0600
From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: regarding Live Album
Message-ID: <B73E12A9.ED0%twilightzone@mindspring.com>
So everyone is divided on this Live CD thing. I am all for it. For those
of you who aren't, think of it this way... since the new album won't be out
until around Jan. this is just something to tide you over until then.
-corvin
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:37:30 -0500
From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Live DT album
Message-ID: <007201c0eb8a$b33ff020$8184e5cf@enteract.com>
I have to kind of agree with those who are not very interested in this
album. This is what, live cd 4, 5 and 6? Not including boots. What's
next, a best of? I know that Portnoy is doing it because he believes the
show was very special, and it probably was, but this 3 cd thing is overkill,
IMO, and I know for certain that I won't be able to sit through 3 cds of DT
live anytime soon. I still love the music, but it's just too much... and
it's unnecessary. This won't sell a whole lot... it's the kind of thing
they should have made available through their web sites, so they wouldn't
have to delay the album, IMO.
With the DVD and all, this just doesn't make any sense to me at all... if it
were another band I'd think it was a money grab kind of thing, but I know
that Portnoy is the most rabid DT fan of them all, and he's doing this
because he thinks it should be done... but I don't think it will make it
into my cd collection
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:38:50 -0400
From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Triple live
Message-ID: <20010602.143850.556.0.axeman_dannl@juno.com>
>why buy something that you don't neccesarily NEED
well, we don't NEED any of our music, do we? there are plenty of people
on earth who get
by without mountains of cd's and stereo equipment. We buy things because
we enjoy them.
-Dan.
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Date: 2 Jun 2001 19:42:00 -0000
From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Live and new e-mail address
Message-ID: <20010602194200.15824.qmail@meowmix.chek.com>
>From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
>Subject: Re: Live album - voice of dissent
>besides, if you don't get it, then you truthfully won't
>have ALL their albums. :)
Damnit, you're right!! Hadn't thought about that; now I
have no choice: I really MUST buy it!! ;)
Incidentally, I'm going to have to change my Jam
subscription, folks, because Buffymail is shutting down
on monday. I think future posts will be to and from
awake@irishnation.com
Cheers,
~SJD
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:36:04 -0400
From: "Joe DeAngelo" <joe.deangelo@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Live CD
Message-ID: <001201c0ebac$073092e0$d0c90741@stcl1.mi.home.com>
>> I won't be buying it. To be honest, I don't see the need;
Well, that's the cool thing...... nobody is OBLIGATED to buy it. But for
those (myself included) who would like to, this is kick-ass news!
- Joe D.
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:41:37 -0500
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: new live album/ Non DT content
Message-ID: <20010602.164138.-306891.0.kurt.hampton@juno.com>
Im very excited about this. the fact that Elektra would let em do
something like this after releasing a DVD is incredible
I also saw Fear factory the other night. I was wondering if the drummer
was for real, he is.
I ordered the new Iced Earth cd, should be to me within the next few
days. Sweet
Kurt
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"Cmon Orlando Shake you f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:52:01 -0400
From: "Metzger, Mark" <Mark.Metzger@comverse.com>
To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Yet Another DT Live Album...
Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D3404D44376@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> I won't be buying it. To be honest, I don't see the need;
Well, the amazing thing to me is that while there will indeed be the loyal
purchases of this CD, it will HAVE to be a commercial failure. You wont be
attracting many people with a 3-CD live set.
That said I AM PSYCHED !!!!!!!!!!!!! Who cares if you have most of this
already on DVD !! The dudes are putting out more stuff for us !! Great !!
THINK ABOUT THIS !! This move is sooooo pro-serious-fan that anyone who has
anything negative to say should slap themself !!
Me does worry that this may mean that the release date for the new studio
may be way out there.....
Me also wonders how they got JB's sound from Another day. That mike was OFF
"upstage". And, Mr. JB flubbed the ending. Wonder if that will be on the
live CD ?? Maybe they bumped into him at Beartracks ..... ;)
Mark Metzger
mark.metzger@comverse.com
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:52:39 -0400
From: "Metzger, Mark" <Mark.Metzger@comverse.com>
To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Live is Cool but ....
Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D3404D44377@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> So I guess there's no point in ever going to see them
>> live either... After all, you've already heard all of
>> the songs so what's the point??
>> Why "waste" your money???
Well, this one strikes a nasty chord with me. It used to be that if you
caught two shows in a row, you could count on different setlists. In fact,
when they played two shows at that firetrap down in CT somewhere, I think
that there may have only been 2-3 songs that were repeated. Sadly, they are
not nearly as fun or spontaneous as they used to be !! I know (from
reliable sources) that MP would love to go nuts !! It is the other TOADS in
the group that want "same-old-same-old". And the story line of Jordan
having to pre-program his keys to match the setlist makes me PUKE !!
Oh well, will probably get the shit flamed out of me by Mr. 420 for saying
this, but what the hell.
Mark Metzger, who HIDES LIKE A MAN behind his Internet account .....
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 23:06:38 +0100
From: Steve & Ros Arthur <stevenros@cwcom.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Oh no my friend Pearl Jam are not ripping you off
Message-ID: <3B19636E.755D2C0A@cwcom.net>
Am i alone or does anybody else agree that Pearl Jams official bootlegs are a totally cool idea
The jerk who mailed about having to be rich to buy 80 double cd's has missed the plot totally...
It's to allow you to get the gig you may have gone to on CD...COMPRENDE ??
OK I didnt go to see them live but fancied the Seattle 'homecoming' gig on triple cd
Its absolutely amazing.....but beleive it or not i dont feel compelled to buy the full set
Weird heh ?!
Steve ' Sensible' UK Triple Jammer
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:52:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: 3 cd live
Message-ID: <20010602225241.1226.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com>
"So I guess there's no point in ever going to see them
live either...
After all, you've already heard all of the songs so
what's the point??
Why "waste" your money???"
I agree! I would love to have the new live discs
because I prefer to practice to live cd's, and all the
live ones from this tour are mp3's with 2 second gaps
in between songs which is a pain to practice to
(especially SFAM and medleys). That is worth the
money alone. Plus the clarity of the songs as opposed
to the boots would be a bonus.
=====
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:53:46 +1000
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Live DT album
Message-ID: <000901c0ebc7$a5b9a440$4f4636cb@PaulTadday>
Christopher W. Ptacek thus stated...
> I have to kind of agree with those who are not very interested in this
> album. This is what, live cd 4, 5 and 6? Not including boots. What's
> next, a best of? I know that Portnoy is doing it because he believes the
> show was very special, and it probably was, but this 3 cd thing is
overkill,
> IMO, and I know for certain that I won't be able to sit through 3 cds of
DT
> live anytime soon.
No one's asking you to sit through 3cd's from start to finish!
Ever heard of the track selection button?? ;)
Besides... no one is forcing you to buy it anyway!
But for those who would love to have it, we have the choice to buy it, so
great!
> I still love the music, but it's just too much... and
> it's unnecessary. This won't sell a whole lot... it's the kind of thing
> they should have made available through their web sites, so they wouldn't
> have to delay the album, IMO.
Who says that releasing the live cd's is delaying the studio album??
Wouldn't other side projects such as the G3 tour be doing that already??
Paul.
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