YTSEJAM Digest 5875
Today's Topics:
1) Re: PoS (pun intended)
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
2) Re: fan club rants
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
3) Re: PoS (pun intended)
by "Jenny Kim" <echolucretia@hotmail.com>
4) Re: PoS (pun intended)
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
5) YTSEWHINE
by Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca>
6) cell ringtones
by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
7) 3CD audio
by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
8) EXPLOSIVE STOCK ALERT !!!!!
by newspicks@post.almac.co.uk
9) Re: PoS
by Mike Patrick <mikeepatrick@yahoo.com>
10) pain of salvation
by Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
11) Guitarist Update
by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5874
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
13) "Apology accepted, Captain Needa"
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
14) re: PoS (pun intended)
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
15) Re: PoS (pun intended)
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
16) Re: PoS (pun intended)
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5874
by Andreas Skarin <sdts@sdts.nu>
18) Perfect Father's Day Gift - FREE Satellite T.V.! 11865
by jaa10@hotmail.com
19) Re: PoS (pun intended)
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
20) Re: PoS (pun intended)
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
21) Xmas CD 2000: The Making Of Scenes From A Memory
by "Tom White" <tmwhi@hotmail.com>
22) HEllo!!
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@hydra2.gmsnet.com>
23) testing...
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@hydra2.gmsnet.com>
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:41:48 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: PoS (pun intended)
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010606143018.00b0a440@pop.business.earthlink.net>
At 12:51 PM 6/6/2001, you wrote:
>Nothing inspired; nothing caught me off guard. Music like this is SUPPOSED
>to catch you off guard.
I dunno. I like it because even though they are playing heavy and
progressive, it doesn't sound too progressive on the first listen, but it
opens much deeper the more you do listen to it. Listen to the first few
minutes of "Home" (the PoS song on One Hour...) -- You've got bass & drums
repeating a riff in 5, while the piano plays a melody in 7 over it and
drives the chord changes. That simple pulse in 5 is the same as the
opening guitar riff in "Water" (the previous song) and also appears in a
few other places. That kind of thing happens all over the place on this
album., and that's why I thing PoS is a great band.
Oh, and just so your flamesuit doesn't feel wasted, you're a complete
fucking moron. You dare do disagree with me, therefore you have the brains
of an ass (not the animal, the body part) :) (yes, this was a JOKE)
The production is better on "The Perfect Element" but if you don't like
Daniel's voice, you're kind of out of luck. He sings, plays guitar and
(pretty much) writes all of the music and lyrics, so he's the main force of
the band.
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:27:30 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: fan club rants
Message-ID: <3B1EAE52.9126EAB6@mol.com.mk>
> From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
> Subject: Re: fan club rants
>
> I apologize for: 1. being stupid enough to continue this thread
> and 2. for not knowing enough to turn off the fucking HTML.
> DOH!
>
> ---- Begin Original Message ----
> Sent: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:09:17 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: Re: fan club rants
>
> <html><head>.....
Add and HIGHLIGHT 3) For leaving the whole previous HTML mail below! :)
Geez
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:28:31 -0700
From: "Jenny Kim" <echolucretia@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: PoS (pun intended)
Message-ID: <F290gRlIqKwAw2bE3Uo0000d3c6@hotmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 08:32:14 +1000
David Dixon wrote:
> <flamesuit>
Your gonna need it...
> I popped in OHbtCL and, after listening for a good 30 minutes, I must say I
First off this kind of music needs more than one listen, just like all great music.
Second, if you'd bothered to listen properly and for more than 30mins you hear
> These guys sound like
Actually Entropia is a great album and a lot of PoS fans like it better than Concrete Lake.
Bottom line you are entitled to not like PoS, but you haven't really given them a chance.
> Now, Soilwork's disc is an entirely different story - these guys are tight!
They sound nothing like Nevermore, try In Flames, but they are a tade more trashier.
graham
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:41:02 -0600
So 'dis guy, Brian Hansen, he sez ta me...
>>That would be ironic. My guess is that you're not
Well, I definitely aimed that at those who used the fact that they
>>Agreed. I'm not a boot fan (as opposed to a booty
Actually, one of my ex's had a nice looking *and* sounding ass. She
>>Hmmm. I think you're right there. If "fan" is really
I was using the term "fan" rather loosely, so yeah, I guess I meant
Greg-o
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:46:52 -0400
>So gang, where can I get some Dream Theater ringtones for my cell
There's a thread or two on this at mp.com. I haven't read it myself, but
If it's not on the first page, try a subject search for "nokia".
-josh
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:52:36 -0400
>Why mix music in DD 5.1? *snip* My only complaint
Well, I guess that's the main part of what I was saying. People keep
-josh
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:23:08 -0700 (PDT)
>I haven't listened to "Entropia" yet, but I'm
Well, you may not like Gildenlow as a singer, and
1) Entropia is one of the greatest things ever
2) All the more stunning since it's their first album
3) I've to say, I love Entropia and TPE, but I DON'T
4) What's with me numbering everything?
5) PoS is NOT my favorite band, but I have NEVER seen
Anyway, DON'T trade Entropia until you listen at least
Mike
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:41:34 -0700
its good to hear a lot of positives about POS.
i recommend all to check out track one from the perfect element too.
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:15:37 -0400 (EDT)
hey there jammers,
now moving on to tony palacios. for those of you that have never
that's my review for the week. enjoy. in the next couple of
-ryften
NP - Tony Palacios "Epic Tales of Whoa!"
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 01:59:24 -0600
on 6/6/01 3:20 PM, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
> Tho it appears that I am in the minority, I pay the $25 for the fanzines! I
Yes, but the $25 price tag is new as of '99. Before that it was $15 and
Corvin
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 03:56:45 -0400
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:09:00 -0400
Uh, you forgot
3. being stupid enough to RE-quote the entire offending passage of HTML
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:01:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: PoS (pun intended)
Message-ID: <20010607150127.14678.qmail@web12106.mail.yahoo.com>
David Dixon <dixon@iis.com> wrote:
> Pain of Salvation - "One Hour by the Concrete Lake"
> I popped in OHbtCL and, after listening for a good
30 minutes, I must
> say I am pretty disappointed. Many of you guys
hailed PoS like they were the
> goddamn second coming of DT.
They are like DT in that everyone seems to have a
different opinion of their various releases! I think
the "The Perfect Element" is one of the best
recordings ever, a pure 10/10. As for OHBtCL, I would
probably be disappointed if that was my first listen
to PoS. It's the least accessible of their recordings,
IMHO. I tend to appreciate OHBtCL, but I don't love it
like TPE.
As for Entropia, that would be my second favorite PoS.
Much easier to get into. You better pop that puppy in,
and take out OHBtCL right now!
> Shame on you - not even close!
Well, if you're taking about TPE, I like it just as
much as I&W and Awake.
> The production is bad (listen to that snare!),
Ah, a drum fanatic. Sorry, I never paid any attention
to the miking or mix of the drummer. I hadn't noticed
any production problems. I tend to listen more to the
guitar and vocals.
> I haven't listened to "Entropia" yet, but I'm
not expecting much.
That's good. You were probably suffering from overhype
before your first listen to OHBtCL anyway. Better to
not know what to expect, than to hear everyone rave
first.
> Soilwork's disc is an entirely different story -
Now I may be suffering from overhype! I better check
these guys out asap...
my $.02, BH
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Date: 07 Jun 2001 16:26:55 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: PoS (pun intended)
Message-ID: <86wv6opayo.fsf@picsel.com>
Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> writes:
> They are like DT in that everyone seems to have a different opinion
> of their various releases! I think the "The Perfect Element" is one
> of the best recordings ever, a pure 10/10.
I bought this recently, and was very disappointed. I suppose I was
also a victim of excessive hype.
These guys are nowhere near DT, either in terms of musicianship or
songwriting ability. Not even close. The guitar playing is sloppy and
the songs all blur together and sound the same. Too repetitive.
--
Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd
graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: 07 Jun 2001 16:51:35 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: PoS (pun intended)
Message-ID: <86pucgp9tk.fsf@picsel.com>
David Dixon <dixon@iis.com> writes:
> > These guys are nowhere near DT, either in terms of musicianship or
> > songwriting ability. Not even close. The guitar playing is sloppy and
> > the songs all blur together and sound the same. Too repetitive.
>
> Dammit! Now I'm getting you two Grahams mixed up! You're all confusing me
> - one of you likes PoS, one of you doesn't - AHH! ;)
It's not the first time. I'm the "normal" Graham from Scotland who
doesn't like PoS. The other Graham is the one from Australia who likes
PoS, dresses in pink, and goes by the name of "Daisy" at weekends.
--
Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd
graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:05:44 +0200
From: Andreas Skarin <sdts@sdts.nu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5874
Message-ID: <3B1FB468.1600387F@sdts.nu>
Chris Elder wrote:
> The $25 for just the fanzines is fucking ridiculous. I mean you can ge=
t a
> subscription to any magazine $5-$10+ less for a 12 months.
> Anyway...
Do you mean to say that you can get a 12 month subscription for $15-$20? =
No
offense but what kind of shitty magazines are you reading? :-)
--
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Svenska Dream Theater-S=E4llskapet
http://www.sdts.nu - mailto:sdts@sdts.nu
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 05:08:03 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: PoS (pun intended)
Message-ID: <3B1FD113.70D1B66@optushome.com.au>
> > Dammit! Now I'm getting you two Grahams mixed up! You're all confusing me
> > - one of you likes PoS, one of you doesn't - AHH! ;)
It's quite easy to tell us apart, really...
I live in sunny Australia.
He lives in miserable Scotland.
He likes the Backstreet Boys.
He is also president of the George Michael international fan club.
He showers once a month.
He goes by the name of 'Brucie' on weekends and dresses up in Rob Halford's
old leather stage gear.
Other than that we are very similar :)
graham
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Date: 07 Jun 2001 20:24:45 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: PoS (pun intended)
Message-ID: <86zobknldu.fsf@picsel.com>
Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> writes:
> > > Dammit! Now I'm getting you two Grahams mixed up! You're all
> > > confusing me
> > > - one of you likes PoS, one of you doesn't - AHH! ;)
>
> It's quite easy to tell us apart, really...
>
> He showers once a month.
No I don't! Damn liar. :-P
--
Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd
graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:47:16 -0000
From: "Tom White" <tmwhi@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Xmas CD 2000: The Making Of Scenes From A Memory
Message-ID: <F233mNEYnkZvLQET7ff0000f866@hotmail.com>
In Issue 20 of ToD, Mike Portnoy Wrote:
"Right now, I'm going through all the tapes of the making of the CD
(Scenes...) because right now I'm working on this year's Christmas fanclub
CD which will be the 'Making Of Scenes From A Memory'."
Personally I would have much prefered that to the CD we just got, unless of
course there wasn't enough material to put on a CD, or Mike was too busy
with a DVD, Transatlantic CD and two kids. Who knows...
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:01:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@hydra2.gmsnet.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: HEllo!!
Message-ID: <200106072001.NAA24805@hydra2.gmsnet.com>
Hello folks, this is a test...
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:02:50 -0700
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@hydra2.gmsnet.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: testing...
Message-ID: <20010607130249.A24812@hydra2.gmsnet.com>
Hello, this is a test...
Yeah...
-The Doc
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<P>I've always kind of agreed about OHbtCL, but was too chickenshit to say anything about it. Everyone built it up so much that I thought I couldn't possibly go wrong buying it. Well I did. The songs just seem to wander around. Production horrible, yes. The only redeeming element (but not by much) I thought was the keyboardist. Some really crazy technical craziness...but I'd rather hear it coming from a guitar.</P>
<P><BR> </P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: David Dixon <DIXON@IIS.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
<DIV></DIV>>To: Multiple recipients of list <YTSEJAM@TORCHSONG.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: PoS (pun intended)
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I was very excited to see that my shipment from CDNow came today, containing
<DIV></DIV>>the following:
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>* Pain of Salvation - "Entropia"
<DIV></DIV>>* Pain of Salvation - "One Hour by the Concrete Lake"
<DIV></DIV>>* Soilwork - "A Predator's Portrait"
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>><FLAMESUIT>
<DIV></DIV>>I popped in OHbtCL and, after listening for a good 30 minutes, I must say I
<DIV></DIV>>am pretty disappointed. Many of you guys hailed PoS like they were the
<DIV></DIV>>goddamn second coming of DT. Shame on you - not even close! The production
<DIV></DIV>>is bad (listen to that snare!), and the singer's voice, which was raved
<DIV></DIV>>about by pretty much everybody, is nothing special. These guys sound like
<DIV></DIV>>they are playing progressive and heavy JUST TO PLAY PROGRESSIVE AND HEAVY.
<DIV></DIV>>Nothing inspired; nothing caught me off guard. Music like this is SUPPOSED
<DIV></DIV>>to catch you off guard. I haven't listened to "Entropia" yet, but I'm not
<DIV></DIV>>expecting much, especially because it predates OHbtCL, therefore the
<DIV></DIV>>production will probably be worse. I don't doubt the talent of these guys,
<DIV></DIV>>but the singer and engineer need to get their shit together before I will
<DIV></DIV>>listen again. How is the production on their latest album?
<DIV></DIV>></FLAMESUIT>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Now, Soilwork's disc is an entirely different story - these guys are tight!
<DIV></DIV>>Very impressive. They sound very much like Nevermore TRY to sound like...
<DIV></DIV>>:)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>So, anyway, for those of you still interested, my two PoS discs are up for
<DIV></DIV>>sale - $9 a pop. Brand new today...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Thanks,
<DIV></DIV>>Dave Dixon
<DIV></DIV>>dixon@iis.com
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From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: PoS (pun intended)
Message-ID: <3B1EAF6E.F99E35A6@optushome.com.au>
> am pretty disappointed. Many of you guys hailed PoS like they were the
> goddamn second coming of DT. Shame on you - not even close! The production
> is bad (listen to that snare!), and the singer's voice, which was raved
> about by pretty much everybody, is nothing special.
PoS are not immediate band, you time to spend more time with the CD's.
that the production is very good indeed. And that there are different snare sounds
throughout the album. With a number of songs having a different snare sounds to suit the song.
> they are playing progressive and heavy JUST TO PLAY PROGRESSIVE AND HEAVY.
> Nothing inspired; nothing caught me off guard. Music like this is SUPPOSED
> to catch you off guard. I haven't listened to "Entropia" yet, but I'm not
> expecting much, especially because it predates OHbtCL, therefore the
> production will probably be worse. I don't doubt the talent of these guys,
> but the singer and engineer need to get their shit together before I will
> listen again. How is the production on their latest album?
So again before mouthing off, at least give it a chance.
They play a different kind of prog metal, so maybe you just aren't used to their style.
> Very impressive. They sound very much like Nevermore TRY to sound like...
> :)
Great album though.
From: Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: YTSEWHINE
Message-ID: <3B1EB17E.51A35471@ucalgary.ca>
talking about the same people though. People who love
boots will probably pick up the official, live release
too. On the other hand, maybe someone will want to
argue the "fuckwit" case.
owned boots with similar setlists to justify not buying the official
release. We all know why that is unacceptable, so no need in rehashing
it here. I myself enjoy boots that offer something out of the ordinary.
I have the Scenes From Connecticut boot, which is identical to what was
played the following night at the Roseland, but in no way could that be
a viable substitute to the official live album. My balls tingle in
anticipation...
fan). And you're correct, I'd much rather see a
beautiful ass than hear it...
could fart the entire Mikado on request. Heh, heh...I always had her
beat with my hyper-lethal Dutch Oven, though.
short for "fanatic", some of us must not be fans. But
we still like them a lot. ;)
to say "for people who like them a lot..."
From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: cell ringtones
Message-ID: <3B1ECEFC.BC3FCBDA@optonline.com>
phone?
I'd certainly check that out.
From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: 3CD audio
Message-ID: <3B1ED054.B628A8E5@optonline.com>
>with the mix is that the level seems really low.
complaining about the inexplicably low sound quality on this DVD, and
I'm wondering if Atlantic *planned* that to insure sales of the live
triple CD. That's the only reason I personally might buy it.
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From: Mike Patrick <mikeepatrick@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: PoS
Message-ID: <20010607022308.50576.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com>
>not expecting much, especially because it predates
>OHbtCL, therefore the production will probably be
>worse.
that'll probably whisk you right out of PoS land
altogether, but...
recorded.
(and, yes, I too make the assumption that bands get
better with time, so I shied away from Entropia at
first too). Big mistake.
like Concrete Lake. It's simply too dark and brooding
to me. Entropia's got all the funk and jazzy stuff,
and so, really, does their latest, but OHbtCL just
seems to be the band at a reall, dark, low place.
Can't blame you there at all.
a live performance from anyone like the one they
pulled off at ProgPowerUSA. DT's very good live, but
they're not even in the ballpark, and I think that
others that were there might back me up on that.
once. It hit me like a ton of bricks and that was
after I'd already been let waaaay down by OHbtCL.
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From: Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: pain of salvation
Message-ID: <3B1EE9DE.24055DB1@home.com>
this is a great prog band, definately in the top 5 IMO.
its no wonder why fans outside of prog like this group.
a tune like that just never seems to get boring. not even close.
From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
To: "The 'Jam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Guitarist Update
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010606231729.5809A-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>
the time has come to bring to your attention two fantastic guitar
albums that i recently picked up. Michael Schenker's "The Odd Trio", and
Tony Palacios' "Epic Tales of Whoa!" first, let's start with the
schenker......
"The Odd Trio" appears right off the bat to be something totally
uncharacteristic of what we've come to expect from michael over the past
several albums. it, like the last few, is completely instrumental.
however, whereas the last couple of albums, namely "Adventures Into the
Imagination" & "Dreams and Expressions" were very lead-oriented (meaning
lots of riffage & crazy soloing, weird breaks & times, etc.), this album
tends to lend itself more to a groove-feel, with schenker holding back on
some of the more extrenuous soloing for the sake of layering some really
nice melodies & harmonies, both acoustic & electric. as before, it's only
a trio (hence the name), with Harry Cobham on bass (never heard of him,
but he's fantastic), and Kathy Brown on drums. this album is just a solid
rock 'n roll instrumental, and shows a more groove-oriented, rhythm
playing style of schenker. very tasty.
heard of him, you NEED to check him out. he is by far one of the most
inspired players i have ever heard, and "Epic Tales of Whoa!" displays
this inspiration with flying colors. this album is a collection of so
many different styles of playing, ranging from jazz, blues, ballad, world,
to some Vai & Satch influences as well. i would say there's several
glimpses of Steve Morse here as well. for you guitarists out there, as
well as those that just eat guitar-instrumentals up at every chance, this
is one of the most passionately played, inspired, and heartfelt collection
of notes i've heard in a long, long time. this comes from one who owns
every satch, vai, johnson, schenker, moore, schon, beck, & sheetz album
out there. i haven't heard anything this refreshing in years. get up
from the computer, get in the car, and get this now. you'll never regret
it, promise.
days, i'll be snagging the new Sherinian disk, "Inertia". i've heard a
couple tracks off of it, and it impressed the shit out of me. it's
nothing like the previous two solo efforts. the line-up on the album is:
Sherinian - Keys
Zakk Wylde - Guitar
Steve Lukather - Guitar
Tony Franklin - Bass
Simon Phillips - Drums
and i say again, holy shit. has anyone else on the jam checked
this disk out yet? what's it like all the way through? it really sounds
like it explores a TON of different styles, but wondered if there were any
other thoughts on it before i get it. that, as well as the "Niacin"
project, with:
John Novello - Hammond B3
Billy Sheehan - Bass
Dennis Chambers - Drums
can't wait to see what they're all about. there will most
certainly be reviews once they've been good & listened too. peace out.
From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5874
Message-ID: <B744907B.F5F%twilightzone@mindspring.com>
> have ever since I started subscribing to the fanzine all the way back to
> when Awake was first released in 94 (well before the Xmas CDs were thought
> of). So stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
>
> Scott
probably cheaper early on. I would be satisfied with a $12-$15 fanzine.
That is about $4 a pop.
The $25 for just the fanzines is fucking ridiculous. I mean you can get a
subscription to any magazine $5-$10+ less for a 12 months.
Anyway...
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: "Apology accepted, Captain Needa"
Message-ID: <3B1F33BD.2E86@atl.mediaone.net>
> From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
> Subject: Re: fan club rants
>
>
> I apologize for:
> 1. being stupid enough to continue this thread and
> 2. for not knowing enough to turn off the fucking HTML.
back to the Jam. Thanks SO much; it was so much more fascinating
reading the second time around. :rolleyes:
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