YTSEJAM digest 5885

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Date: Thu Jun 28 2001 - 15:44:36 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Ihre Mail an / Your message to : st.behr@gmx.de
     by autoresponder@gmx.de (Autoresponder)
      2) Essential Prog
     by etrautmann@amslog.com
      3) Back Online ...
     by Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com>
      4) Re: Essential Prog
     by "Shadow Mage" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
      5) Re: Essential Prog
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
      6) New Braindance album...
     by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
      7) Re: Essential Prog
     by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      8) Zero hour
     by LaxBoy329@aol.com
      9) Re: Essential Prog
     by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
     10) Re: Zero hour
     by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
     11) welcome back
     by "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
     12) Re: Zero hour
     by Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
     13) Re: Essential Prog
     by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
     14) AudioGalaxy
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
     15) Marcel Coenen News
     by Marcel.Coenen@Libertel.nl

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    Date: Wed, 27 Jun 01 19:36:40 GMT
    From: autoresponder@gmx.de (Autoresponder)
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Ihre Mail an / Your message to : st.behr@gmx.de
    Message-ID: <20010627193640.504vac1@mx04.gmx.net>

    Folgende Nachricht wurde fuer Sie hinterlassen:
    Please find below a message for you:

    Hallo ihr lieben.
    Ich bin leider für zwei Wochen in der Dominikanischen Republick meine letzten Schulstressreste kurieren!
    Ich komme am 4.7 wieder.
    Also ich melde mich bei allen sobald ich wieder da bin!
    In diesem Sinne Pippi in die Rinne.
    -Stephan 

    -- 
GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet.
http://www.gmx.net

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    Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:51:37 -0400
From: etrautmann@amslog.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Essential Prog
Message-ID: <2BC39A26EB95D31194F3009027D602CE446253@proxy.amslog.com>

    This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

    Wow, we're back up! Let's see if I can start a thread.....

    Hello All,

    I'm a long time subscriber, but rarely post. I'm kind of like the JM of the
'jam.

    Anyway, the "Prog" bug has come over me hard lately. Mostly due to some
great MP3s I got off of Napster(RIP). I'm a big fan of Spock's Beard, Fates
Warning, Symphony X and, of course, DT. I want to learn more about the roots
of Prog. Along the lines of Genesis, King Crimson, Yes, etc. Tell me the
most essential CDs I need to have in my collection.

    I know this subject has been covered many times in the past. If you prefer,
you can e-mail me privately or point me to somewhere on the Internet.

    Thanks,
Eric
etrautmann@amslog.com

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    Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:01:47 -0400
From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Back Online ...
Message-ID: <20010627160147.J4040@mindstorm.com>

    Hi All ...

      The Ytsejam Mailing List is back and better than before :)  We are
now on a new server which is much more up to date and a whole
lot faster :)

    Skadz
Ytsejam Moderator

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    Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:04:00 -0500
From: "Shadow Mage" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Essential Prog
Message-ID: <F264Odutox7nyeKzGZu000187c3@hotmail.com>

    ><I want to learn more about the roots
of Prog. Along the lines of Genesis, King Crimson, Yes, etc. Tell me the
most essential CDs I need to have in my collection.><

    Well, I'm not very up on the older Prog either, but I can point you to two 
very essential albums: King Crimson's 'In The Court Of The Crimson King' and 
Yes's 'Close To The Edge.'  Yes's 'Fragile' is also good.  I haven't really 
listened to any King Crimson, but I've heard from several long-time Proggies 
that ITCOTCK is THE album to have, by that group anyway.  As far as the Yes 
stuff, I really like "Siberian Khatru" from 'Close To The Edge,' and the two 
aforementioned albums are safe bets.  Of course, there's also Rush's old 
stuff, if you're into that, I would probably recommend 'Permanent Waves' 
myself.  Happy Progging, and good luck!

    --The Other Christopher
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    Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:54:43 -0400
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Essential Prog
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010627175310.00a47ec0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

    OK, let me try. From Yes, you need the Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the 
Edge and maybe Relayer. From Genesis, Foxtrot, Selling England by the 
pound, The Lamb Lies down on Broadway and Trick of the Tail. From King 
Crimson, the first album, discipline, and a few others, not a big kc fan. 
 From ELP, the self titled one, Tarkus, Pictures at an Exhibition, Trilogy, 
and Brain Salad Surgery, plus the Welcome back live album. RFor Rush, you 
need 2112, Farewell to kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves and Moving 
Pictures, and exit STage Left. That's all I can think of.

    At 04:05 PM 6/27/2001, you wrote:
>This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
>this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
>
>
>Wow, we're back up! Let's see if I can start a thread.....
>
>Hello All,
>
>I'm a long time subscriber, but rarely post. I'm kind of like the JM of the
>'jam.
>
>Anyway, the "Prog" bug has come over me hard lately. Mostly due to some
>great MP3s I got off of Napster(RIP). I'm a big fan of Spock's Beard, Fates
>Warning, Symphony X and, of course, DT. I want to learn more about the roots
>of Prog. Along the lines of Genesis, King Crimson, Yes, etc. Tell me the
>most essential CDs I need to have in my collection.
>
>I know this subject has been covered many times in the past. If you prefer,
>you can e-mail me privately or point me to somewhere on the Internet.
>
>Thanks,
>Eric
>etrautmann@amslog.com
>
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    --
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Band sites: Awake: http://www.geocities.com/awake6am: Mystify: 
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"All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars,
All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars,
Turn around and walk the razor's edge."--Neil Peart of Rush, The Pass

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    Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:08:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: New Braindance album...
Message-ID: <m15FNTm-000JlzC@mail.interzone.com>

    Hi,
        Just saw that Braindance has finally released their latest CD:
Redemption.  Check out http://www.progressivedarkwave.com where they
have some samples.  I'm looking forward to getting the CD.

    				Steve

    -- 
Steve Chew - schew@interzone.com - http://www.interzone.com
"Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."

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    Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:45:21 -0400
From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Essential Prog
Message-ID: <570E1E6834B65D11EAF30005B88C77AC@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    To add to this thread, I am a big old school (1970s) progger myself and here are my essentials in order under the artist:

    King Crimson- "Red", "Starless And Bible Black", "Larks' Tongues In Aspic"
Yes- "Close To The Edge", "Relayer", "The Yes Album", "Going For The One"
Gentle Giant- "In A Glass House", "Free Hand", "The Power And The Glory", "The Missing Piece"
Starcastle- "Fountains Of Light", "Starcastle", "Citadel"
Rush- "A Farewell To Kings", "Hemispheres", "2112"
Genesis- "Selling England By The Pound", "Trick Of The Tail", "Wind And Wuthering", "Foxtrot"
ELP- "Brain Salad Surgery", "Tarkus"
UK- "Danger Money", "UK", "Night After Night"
Pink Floyd- "Wish You Were Here", "Animals", "Dark Side..."

    There are so many more though...

    ---- Begin Original Message ----
 From: etrautmann@amslog.com
Sent: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:05:57 -0700 (PDT)
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Essential Prog

    This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

    Wow, we're back up! Let's see if I can start a thread.....

    Hello All,

    I'm a long time subscriber, but rarely post. I'm kind of like the JM of the
'jam.

    Anyway, the "Prog" bug has come over me hard lately. Mostly due to some
great MP3s I got off of Napster(RIP). I'm a big fan of Spock's Beard, Fates
Warning, Symphony X and, of course, DT. I want to learn more about the roots
of Prog. Along the lines of Genesis, King Crimson, Yes, etc. Tell me the
most essential CDs I need to have in my collection.

    I know this subject has been covered many times in the past. If you prefer,
you can e-mail me privately or point me to somewhere on the Internet.

    Thanks,
Eric
etrautmann@amslog.com

    ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment

    ---- End Original Message ----

    Dream Theater : The Official Site - http://www.dreamtheater.net/
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    Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:01:29 EDT
From: LaxBoy329@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Zero hour
Message-ID: <77.16c3daa4.286c0619@aol.com>

    Anyone have any information about them albums n things.... i havent heard 
anything from this band in a looonng time

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:51:46 -0400
From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Essential Prog
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010628013359.02186b70@cs.millersville.edu>

    Rob Pociluk wrote:

    >To add to this thread, I am a big old school (1970s) progger myself and 
>here are my essentials in order under the artist:
>There are so many more though...

    I'm all for most of the ones Rob mentioned.  Here's some other quality 
vintage prog to try:

    Jethro Tull - "Songs From The Wood", "Thick As A Brick", "Minstrel in the 
Gallery", "Heavy Horses", "WarChild"
Le Orme - "Felona e Serona", "Uoma di Pezza"
Camel - "The Snow Goose"
Wishbone Ash - "Argus"
Clearlight - "Forever Blowing Bubbles"
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - "Io Sono Nato Libero", "Darwin!"
Eloy - "Inside", "Floating"

    ..and, of course...

    Frank Zappa - "One Size Fits All", "Over-nite Sensation", "Joe's Garage", 
"Hot Rats"

    Brian

    [NP...Nexus -- Metanoia]

    =============================================
WB Henderson [wbhender@cs.millersville.edu]
Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/
Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/
WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/
WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/
=============================================

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:24:44 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Zero hour
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010628012322.043f0c30@pop.business.earthlink.net>

    At 09:22 PM 6/27/2001, you wrote:
>Anyone have any information about them albums n things.... i havent heard
>anything from this band in a looonng time

    Well, their second album "Towers of Avarice" came out a few months 
ago.  While there's not the cool keyboards of Matt Guillory on it, in many 
ways it is a stronger and better album than their self-titled.  I'd 
recommend it if you liked the first one.  Other than that, I'm not sure 
what info you are looking for.

          ~Chris

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    Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:40:24 +0200
From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: welcome back
Message-ID: <003901bad963$4f0aaf80$6ddf6693@----->

    Did napster just die?
Haven't downloaded anything in some time so what do 
you people use nowadays?

    see yeh when i see yeh

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:34:37 -0400
From: Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Zero hour
Message-ID: <3B3B164D.BC5C2009@bellatlantic.net>

    The released their 2nd CD called Towers of Avarice.  YOu can find more
at:

    http:/www.zerohourweb.com

    Coldie

    LaxBoy329@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Anyone have any information about them albums n things.... i havent heard
> anything from this band in a looonng time

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:49:57 -0400
From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Essential Prog
Message-ID: <25E03A2C6BB65D11EA040005B8CC3ED3@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    I can't believe I forgot "Joe's Garage"!!!  Or Camel!!!  See, this is very difficult.

    A few more?
ELO- "A New World's Record", "Eldorado"
Crack The Sky- "Safety In Numbers"

    ---- Begin Original Message ----
 From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
Sent: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Essential Prog

    Rob Pociluk wrote:

    >To add to this thread, I am a big old school (1970s) progger myself and 
>here are my essentials in order under the artist:
>There are so many more though...

    I'm all for most of the ones Rob mentioned.  Here's some other quality 
vintage prog to try:

    Jethro Tull - "Songs From The Wood", "Thick As A Brick", "Minstrel in the 
Gallery", "Heavy Horses", "WarChild"
Le Orme - "Felona e Serona", "Uoma di Pezza"
Camel - "The Snow Goose"
Wishbone Ash - "Argus"
Clearlight - "Forever Blowing Bubbles"
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - "Io Sono Nato Libero", "Darwin!"
Eloy - "Inside", "Floating"

    .and, of course...

    Frank Zappa - "One Size Fits All", "Over-nite Sensation", "Joe's Garage", 
"Hot Rats"

    Brian

    [NP...Nexus -- Metanoia]

    ============================================
WB Henderson [wbhender@cs.millersville.edu]
Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/
Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/
WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/
WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/
============================================

    ---- End Original Message ----

    Dream Theater : The Official Site - http://www.dreamtheater.net/
____________________________________________________________
Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com.

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:20:04 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: AudioGalaxy
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A05A8A4F2@ISDCRE00>

    Nick.  Try out AudioGalaxy.   It is web-based and has many features that put
Napster in the dust.  AudioGalaxy.com

     JM

    > -----Original Message-----
> From:	Nicholas Sakkos [SMTP:el00144@mail.ntua.gr]
> Sent:	Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:31 AM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	welcome back
> 
> Did napster just die?
> Haven't downloaded anything in some time so what do 
> you people use nowadays?
> 
> see yeh when i see yeh

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    Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:12:12 +0200
From: Marcel.Coenen@Libertel.nl
To: test@test.nl
Subject: Marcel Coenen News
Message-ID: <6E6EB6B3B108D511A4AD00306E0248A4098D74@SMTR-EXH8.LIBERTEL>

    Hello all !!
I have good news about my upcoming instructional video for guitar: I will
start recording the lessons at the end of july, it will take some weeks
after that to make the video ready and then we will release it, I am talking
to a distributor at the moment who has connections all over the world. There
will be NTSC copies as well as PAL ones. the video will take about an hour
and a half, there will be lessons, videosamples from Sun Caged rehearsals, a
videoclip by a SC song (Killer Banshee), some Lemur Voice footage and maybe
even some Stormrider or other footage. the lessons will have techniques
(advanced as well ;-), composing, improvising, creating a good sound, rhythm
guitar exercises, dynamics and ofcourse SHRED. 
I will update my site soon with the new information. 
I am also in the progress of transcribing a long piece out of the song
"Childhood Facade" by Lemur Voice, I got a lot of questions about the clean
parts and the progressive parts in the song. The song itself is downloadable
from mp3.com (http://www.mp3.com/lemurvoice) 
I will put it at my website under "instruction" pretty soon. 
In the meanwhile I am working with my band Sun Caged on new material and the
vocals for the existing songs, we are ready to go on stage already, just
keep on watching the gigs section at my website (will be updated tonight)
for Sun Caged gigs, one has been planned: Friday, November 2nd -> Vagant,
Echt (Netherlands)
Cheers 
Marcel
"Want to be off the mailinglist ? send a REMOVE email to:
marcel.coenen@libertel.nl"

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