YTSEJAM digest 5797

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YTSEJAM Digest 5797

Today's Topics:

1) Where's the Jam??
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
 2) WANTED !!! SINGER (MALE OR FEMALE) FOR PROGRESSIVE BAND SUN CAGED
by "Coenen, Marcel" <marcel.coenen@libertel-vs.nl>
 3) m2000 trailer
by Robb Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
 4) the ancient ones
by Eric Marlett <emarlett@mygthome.com>
 5) Inspiration Corner for the new DT!
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
 6) Re: Inspiration Corner for the new DT!
by Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk>
 7) Re: your Business!
by e-commerce2000@yahoo.com
 8) Re: your Business!
by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
 9) Re: your Business!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com>
10) Lurkers Rule
by slash@zebra.net (Wade Caudle)
11) Re: your Business!
by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
12) Re: tri ryche in space
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
13) Re: how to make a ytseshirt
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
14) Re: Where's the Jam??
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
15) Older jammer than I was back then
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
16) Cookie monster
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
17) RE: the ancient ones
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
18) RE: Where's the Jam??
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
19) RE: DT m2000 trailer
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
20) RE: the ancient ones
by "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
21) Re: Inspiration Corner for the new DT!
by "sdts@sdts.nu" <sdts@sdts.nu>
22) Old YTse-Farts - ANOTHER ALL YOUR BASE site
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
23) re: Old timers
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
24) more memorythingies
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:41:41 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Where's the Jam??
Message-ID: <005e01c0b037$46b300c0$263a36cb@PaulTadday>

I haven't had any mail from the jam for almost a week...
If it's just me can someone please mail me privately and let me know???
Maybe I've been un-subbed or something?!?!?

--Paul.

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:21:28 +0100
From: "Coenen, Marcel" <marcel.coenen@libertel-vs.nl>
To: "'test@test.nl'" <test@test.nl>
Subject: WANTED !!! SINGER (MALE OR FEMALE) FOR PROGRESSIVE BAND SUN CAGED
Message-ID: <7B91E207F265D311866F0008C7F3785C69F070@iris.libertel-vs.nl>

Hello all, Important Message:

The progressive metal band Sun Caged is a band based in the south of the
Netherlands (near Venlo), the band will be on a Dream Theater tribute CD
pretty soon with the song "Caught In A Web (sang by Forever Times female
singer "Laura v Driel"). Though the band does not have a full time singer at
the moment, so the band is eagerly looking for a singer !!!

Male or Female doesn't really matter, we would love a combination of both
(so maybe two singers) but one of those would be fine too, we can write the
songs the way that it will be compatible with the voice we will get.

The style we are looking for though vocalwise is somewhere in between
Nevermore, Faith No More, Dream Theater, Fates Warning, The Gathering, Pain
Of Salvation, Marillion etc. This is also the way the band sounds, with some
experiments to thrash metal (Meshuggah kinda riffs) to Fusion.

We have recorded a demo-CD in the past with three guestsingers, that demo we
also used grunt vocals but we don't need a vocalist who does this since we
will not use the grunts anymore, though if you want to check those songs out
they are on mp3.com:

http://www.mp3.com/suncaged

If you are interested or know a good singer for the band then please email
me at: mcoenen@home.nl
or give me a call: +31 650 206 206

The band has ex-members of the bands Lemur Voice and Within Temptation, and
is a professional band, so no beginners please.

A CD will be recorded later on this year, and plans are discussed with
recordlabels right now.

You can also view the band's official website at: http://www.suncaged.com

I am hoping for a lot of reactions !!

Marcel Coenen
Guitarist Sun Caged
http://www.marcelcoenen.com
icq: 22168027
mcoenen@home.nl

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:23:33 -0500
From: Robb Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: m2000 trailer
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010319112254.0181d608@pop.ecosoft.com>

I think i just wet my pants...

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Date: 19 Mar 2001 09:12:49 -0800
From: Eric Marlett <emarlett@mygthome.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: the ancient ones
Message-ID: <20010319171249.24999.cpmta@c017.sfo.cp.net>

I might be one of the all time lowest profile ytsejammers, but I'm still here. Signed on in mid '95 also. Still remember when Mike Bahr's Subconscious was for sale......and when hitting jam #1000 was an event. I've had a good time.

Till #10,000.

Eric Marlett

-------------------------------------------
"Building your life long connection to Georgia Tech",
visit http://www.myGThome.com.

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:22:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Inspiration Corner for the new DT!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103191619020.21754-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

At the Ask Mike section of MP.com, Mike listed this album's "Inspiration
Corner" and I thought it would be neat to compare with SFaM's:

Inspiration Corner CDs for SFaM: The Wall, Operation: Mindcrime, Misplaced
Childhood, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Tommy, The Lamb Lies
Down on Broadway, etc.

Inspiration Corner CDs for new DT: Master of Puppets, Aenima, OK Computer,
Vulgar Display of Power, Achtung Baby, The Downward Spiral, Superunknown,
and Petrucci brought in some Bartok and Rage Against the Machine.

Interesting how the differences may influence the sound of the next album!

-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
-------------------------------------------------
Save Water - Take a bath with your neighbor's
daughter.
-------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:02:32 +0100
From: Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Inspiration Corner for the new DT!
Message-ID: <040401706001431PCOW029M@blueyonder.co.uk>

hmm that's cool, will be interesting

>Inspiration Corner CDs for SFaM: The Wall, Operation: Mindcrime...

just one thing, OK computer was one of the cds we can see in the beartracks
clips, so add that one to the SFAM list.

< flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://www.oddvar.org/ - ICQ: 3253879 >

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:39:47 -0200
From: e-commerce2000@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: your Business!
Message-ID: <3AB2C01500008676@marstarhub.shindong.com> (added by marstarhub.shindong.com)

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:03:11 -0400
From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: your Business!
Message-ID: <OE5yxJMXehYSoOZzHZl000001fa@hotmail.com>

MY BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!

FUCK ME IN THE ASS BICH

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: your Business!

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:35:56 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: your Business!
Message-ID: <003501c0b0ee$e2403e60$dd4053d8@washburn>

> FUCK ME IN THE ASS BICH

No.

--
KorgX3 isn't like that.
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:02:08 -0600
From: slash@zebra.net (Wade Caudle)
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Lurkers Rule
Message-ID: <001501c0b0f2$896a6780$7c450cd1@wade>
Unlike others - Hey Mark :)   -   I only chime in when certain subjects come
up or some fool(e) has posted that I know.  I hate for people to send in
dumb, mindless shit like this just to clog up your e-mail :)
CLOG!
Still waiting for my DVD,
Wade
about 4.5 years-a-lurking
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:21:18 -0400
From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: your Business!
Message-ID: <OE21Ee4zadTMVwVn20l000000ec@hotmail.com>
Damn, i was hoping Korg would fuck me in the ass.
Dont you just hate when you dont know the spam came from the jam hehe
> No.
> --
> KorgX3 isn't like that.
> 
 
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:14:55 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: tri ryche in space
Message-ID: <003401c0b0fc$b44d8400$b44436cb@PaulTadday>
hehehe....
that's brilliant!!
who should QR sue for copyright breach though???
;-D
--Paul.
----- Original Message -----
]From: Chris Sparks <sparky@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:19 AM
Subject: tri ryche in space
>
> Found this recently, check out the third image down (Vela)... spooky, neh?
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/space/06/08/chandra.discoveries/index.html
>
> cheers,
> Chris
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:19:13 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: how to make a ytseshirt
Message-ID: <004401c0b0fd$4d843ba0$b44436cb@PaulTadday>
*LMAO*
Welcome to the wonderful world of screenprinting Josh!!
Some of us have made full time careers out of it!
--Paul.
----- Original Message -----
]From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:28 AM
Subject: how to make a ytseshirt> of course it's not quite what i had put on
the site, so we had to do a
> little re-adjusting of the inkcolors. Screenprinter's ink is thick gooey
> stuff that gets on you just by looking at it, so after 10 minutes of
> mixing inks, i remembered why I like designing 'em, not printing them.
>
> You'll also need the solvent to get the adhesive, the ink, and the
> dust,and the crap, off  your hands, arms, eyes, shoes, other shirts, and
> the rest of the tri-state area.
>
> -josh
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:32:46 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Where's the Jam??
Message-ID: <006801c0b0ff$33d7bea0$b44436cb@PaulTadday>
About friggin' time too!!!
I was startin' to lose my mind!!
----- Original Message ----- 
]From: Paul Tadday <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:43 AM
Subject: Where's the Jam??
> 
> I haven't had any mail from the jam for almost a week...
> If it's just me can someone please mail me privately and let me know???
> Maybe I've been un-subbed or something?!?!?
> 
> --Paul.
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 03:11:15 -0600
From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Older jammer than I was back then
Message-ID: <3AB71EB3.4B4E65E0@earthlink.net>
Hey all - I was one of the first to get net access when it was offered
in my rural Alabama town back in March/April 1996. The first thing I did
was subscribe to the jam. I actually printed one out that first week so
I could read it while I was away from the computer. What a geek!
from: "Backdraft \(Mats Rydstrom\)" <backdraft@elrancho.com>
> Get the new Opeth (prod by Steven from Porcupine Tree)!
I did ($13 at Best Buy, Tallahassee, FL). I love the music. But why, oh,
why do so many people insist on the cookie monster vocals? This guy can
sing very well. Those stupid fucking growls are the only blemish on
Blackwater Park, IMO.
Take care,
Mark Peters
epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:16:19 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Cookie monster
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33473@ISDCRE00>
Yeah, cookie monster vocals turn me off...   I went through a phaze back in
high school (84-87) where I liked that stuff but that's been a while.  I
really wanted to get into After Forever but the cookie monster turned me
off.   Opeth has some fantastic music but I can't listen to the cookie
monster. 
The only cookie monster I like is the actual Cookie Monster singing "I did
it all for the COOKIE"....  grabbed that parody from Napstah
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mark Peters [SMTP:epididymisle@earthlink.net]
> Sent:	Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:23 AM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Older jammer than I was back then
> 
> 
> Hey all - I was one of the first to get net access when it was offered
> in my rural Alabama town back in March/April 1996. The first thing I did
> was subscribe to the jam. I actually printed one out that first week so
> I could read it while I was away from the computer. What a geek!
> 
> from: "Backdraft \(Mats Rydstrom\)" <backdraft@elrancho.com>
> > Get the new Opeth (prod by Steven from Porcupine Tree)!
> 
> I did ($13 at Best Buy, Tallahassee, FL). I love the music. But why, oh,
> why do so many people insist on the cookie monster vocals? This guy can
> sing very well. Those stupid fucking growls are the only blemish on
> Blackwater Park, IMO.
> 
> Take care,
> Mark Peters
> epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:35:53 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: the ancient ones
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33477@ISDCRE00>
Hitting 'Jam #1000 was great, and even better 'Jam # 2112.  Everyone was
posting one-liners to see if they could get in that 'Jam digest..   heh
those were the days.  Speaking of Bahr, I have all of his original DT
releases. 
 JM
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Eric Marlett [SMTP:emarlett@mygthome.com]
> Sent:	Monday, March 19, 2001 4:46 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	the ancient ones
> 
> 
> I might be one of the all time lowest profile ytsejammers, but I'm still
> here. Signed on in mid '95 also. Still remember when Mike Bahr's
> Subconscious was for sale......and when hitting jam #1000 was an event.
> I've had a good time.
> 
> 
> Till #10,000.
> 
> Eric Marlett
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:38:39 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Cc: "'dreamryche@bigpond.com'" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
Subject: RE: Where's the Jam??
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33478@ISDCRE00>
When you don't get a "Digest" in a while, that means the individual postings
are down. 
If you are subscribed in individual message mode, you'll see the messages
individually right when they get posted..  
It's been slow on the 'Jam lately............but the Symphony X list
(teof-subscribe@yahoogroups.com) is doing great.
Discussing lots of other Progressive Metal/Rock bands. 
 JM
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Paul Tadday [SMTP:dreamryche@bigpond.com]
> Sent:	Monday, March 19, 2001 4:45 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Where's the Jam??
> 
> 
> I haven't had any mail from the jam for almost a week...
> If it's just me can someone please mail me privately and let me know???
> Maybe I've been un-subbed or something?!?!?
> 
> --Paul.
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:40:12 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: DT m2000 trailer
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33479@ISDCRE00>
Yeah that VHS/DVD is going to kick some ass.  I don't have a DVD player but
will be buying one just for the DT release      heh 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Robb Muise [SMTP:robbm@primushost.com]
> Sent:	Monday, March 19, 2001 4:46 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	m2000 trailer
> 
> 
> I think i just wet my pants...
> 
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:46:38 -0600
From: "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: the ancient ones
Message-ID: <004201c0b14c$9223bb60$3364a8c0@klindt.org>
I've been around since I saw DT in Minneapolis supporting the Awake tour.
They'd just grabbed this new guy, Derek.
I don't know if I have all of Bahr's originals, but I think I have four or
five.  Too bad about him.
tk
-----Original Message-----
]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
Souter, Jan-Michael
those were the days.  Speaking of Bahr, I have all of his original DT
releases.
 JM
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:31:32 +0100
From: "sdts@sdts.nu" <sdts@sdts.nu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Inspiration Corner for the new DT!
Message-ID: <3AB785E4.EE991C49@sdts.nu>
Andrew Coutermarsh wrote:
> At the Ask Mike section of MP.com, Mike listed this album's "Inspiratio=
n
> Corner" and I thought it would be neat to compare with SFaM's:
I just wish they would've brought some Meshuggah albums too. I want somet=
hing
heavier this time around :o)
Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater-S=E4llskapet
http://www.sdts.nu - mailto:sdts@sdts.nu
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:53:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Old YTse-Farts - ANOTHER ALL YOUR BASE site
Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.10103201152020.4432-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>
Been here since the kbibb days as well........mostly lurking as well (too
old to type, with the arthritis kickin' in.....  :)
anyway, found another site from that game that was all the rage on here a
few weeks ago....if anyone's interested....
http://opticnerve.dhs.org/~prag/AYB2.swf
Later,
Al Balkiewicz
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Joshua Rasiel wrote:
> 
> I was part of the wave to join after ytsejam got a nod in the ACoS
> liner. So...late '95.
> 
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:27:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: Old timers
Message-ID: <20010320172712.9664.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com>
Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> wrote:
> I have been on the jam for a very long time, and I
am very well-known and popular.
Rotflmao!
<In scratchy old man voice>:
"I've been on the jam since 1964. I had to walk 50
miles in the snow, uphill both ways, just to reach the
good ole' IBM Model 204. We wrote the jam back then in
Assembly language on paper tape, and read it from
punch cards. Put them together into a digest using an
ancient dialect of JCL. Yeah, dem were the days. You
whipper-snappers don't know how well you got it
today!"
my $.02, BH
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:44:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: more memorythingies
Message-ID: <20010320184425.17804.qmail@web3406.mail.yahoo.com>
Steve Chew: Your ytsejam archive kicks all manner of
butts. It appears I joined the ytsejam list on or
about March 14th, 1995, just in time for Digest 748,
which would make this the 5,048th digest I've received
(or maybe not, what with number skipping, and
temporary unsubs, whether intentional or not)(and I
can't claim to have read 'em all, either) 
Anyway, back in those days, Mike Bahr was a good thing
on this list....    :)
Partha
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