YTSEJAM Digest 5796
Today's Topics:
1) Here's another old fart!
by Babs <babs4_b@yahoo.com>
2) Re: switching tracks
by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
3) Boost Your Windows Reliability!!!!!!!!!!
by fulvia@kickhigher.com
4) Old timers...
by "Steve Johnson" <Steve.Johnson@MSLpr.com>
5) RE: old ytse-farts
by Mike Patrick <mikeepatrick@yahoo.com>
6) Re: old-timers
by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
7) Re: old-timers
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
8) old jammer
by "Backdraft \(Mats Rydstrom\)" <backdraft@elrancho.com>
9) old ytse-farts
by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
10) Re: old-timer Ytse-lurkers
by "Jennifer" <jenibear@usa.net>
11) Re: old ytse-farts
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com>
12) Allan Holdsworth Fans on the Jam
by JEFF GUTENBERG <aurakle@earthlink.net>
13) Re: old-timers
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
14) Re: old-timers
by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
15) tri ryche in space
by "Chris Sparks" <sparky@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
16) DVD in Europe
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
17) >5 year lurker
by "Wes Foll" <wesfoll@hotmail.com>
18) Financial Freedom!
by carlos2576@aeroplan.cl
19) CDs for sale
by "Metzger, Mark" <Mark.Metzger@comverse.com>
20) Re: old-timer Ytse-lurkers
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
21) RE: ytse old-farts
by "Timothy Lodge" <lodge13@home.com>
22) TEST MORT 21777
by alfn89@Flashmail.com
23) Xmass CD...
by "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net>
24) how to make a ytseshirt
by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
25) Long timers and Luke
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
26) old timer
by "Eric Barker" <barkere1@us.ibm.com>
27) Guitar Solo / Gladiator
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:26:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Babs <babs4_b@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Here's another old fart!
Message-ID: <20010313162622.22031.qmail@web9609.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello everyone, it's BABS (remember my famous line?)
Yes, I joined the ytsejam back in November of '94.
Man, talk about walking down memory lane. I met so
many cool people here!
BABS
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:51:37 -0500
From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: switching tracks
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010313110843.00a91510@cs.millersville.edu>
Carlos Alfaro:
>I dont consider myself a high profile user, but i joined the list just about
>the time Acos was released...
Likewise, but a few months after the ACoS release for me. I bet there's a
ton of us 5+ year veterans here, we're just not the post-every-time-we-fart
variety (though at one point I was in the top-20 MFP).
Album recommendation:
Nordream "Memories Progression" (Metal Agen/Valiant)
A young Russian progmetal band with some killer hooks. Their slow-as-hell
website:
..which may or may not feature MP3s -- I haven't been patient enough to
wait for the thing to load up. They're a good band, at any rate, and
actually quote Kevin Moore on the inner tray liner (for those of you
looking for a DT-connection).
Brian
[NP...Napalm Death -- Enemy of the Music Business]
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:15:13 -0500
From: "Steve Johnson" <Steve.Johnson@MSLpr.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Old timers...
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I have been on since 1994...I think was still in the #400s or somthing. =
Way back when, we tried organizing a Ytse-con in Chicago, but it didn't =
happen. Those were the days of Bafu, technical talk, tab notations and =
EOJs.... (sniff)
Steve
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<DIV><FONT size=1>I have been on since 1994...I think was still in the #400s or
somthing. Way back when, we tried organizing a Ytse-con in Chicago, but it
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:30:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Patrick <mikeepatrick@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: old ytse-farts
Message-ID: <20010313173009.25293.qmail@web1306.mail.yahoo.com>
My first 'jam was #32 after learning about it in one
of the forums on CompuServe. Jeez, that was a long
time ago. I have, however, unsubbed several times
over the years, and this is in NO WAY meant to sound
elitist, but this really isn't the place I go to get
the skinny on bands, and hasn't been for about three
years. I really get the 'jam more out of habit than
anything else.
The best board on the net, IMHO, is still Perpetual
Motion:
http://www.mindcage.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
Come to the dark side...
Mike
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:52:16 -0500 (EST)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: old-timers
Message-ID: <m14cuq8-000IR1C@mail.interzone.com>
>
>Speaking of which, I wonder how many true old-timers are still left on the
>'jam. I mean, I wouldn't consider myself a true old-timer, since I only
>joined in '97, but I have a feeling that there aren't very many of us
>left. There's what, Korgy, Pellaz, Partha, Ptacek, Al, Coldie's back...
>but who else is around that's been a high-profile user (sorry, I obviously
>don't know you five-year lurkers, heh) for several years?
>
I don't know that I'd be high profile but I've been around
since ytsejam #320 (Feb 1994). Visit my Ytsejam Digest Archive if you
want to look up some old timers: http://interzone.com/Music/Ytsejam/
Steve
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Date: 13 Mar 2001 18:52:23 +0000
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: old-timers
Message-ID: <861ys11oyg.fsf@picsel.com>
I have been on the jam for a very long time, and I am very well-known
and popular.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland------------------------------
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:12:48 +0100 From: "Backdraft \(Mats Rydstrom\)" <backdraft@elrancho.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: old jammer Message-ID: <001501c0abf9$fb30a710$2a01a8c0@fanglobe.local>
Hi there!
I joined in the winter of 93/94, I think, mostly lurking nowadays... = last time I saw DT was at the Roseland Ballroom in Sept.
Get the new Opeth (prod by Steven from Porcupine Tree)!
/Mats - lordrosse@yahoo.com - backdraft@elrancho.com
BACKDRAFT - righteous hard rock for the shag-lined custom van ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the official home page: http://www.backdraft.web.com
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:19:47 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: old ytse-farts Message-ID: <3AAE9D03.5F193D9@optonline.com>
I was part of the wave to join after ytsejam got a nod in the ACoS liner. So...late '95.
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:34:30 -0800 From: "Jennifer" <jenibear@usa.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: old-timer Ytse-lurkers Message-ID: <000a01c0ac16$26d93140$099b0818@scrmnt1.ca.home.com>
I joined some time in '94. I did take a couple breaks from the list, particularly during the height of Michael C.'s waaay off-topic religious posts. :P
Speaking of old timers, Zach, are you back out there? ;)
Jen
{~._.~} Feel like an ( Y ) astronaut in a submarine... ()~*~() KEVIN MOORE (_)-(_)
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:32:26 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@enchantize.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: old ytse-farts Message-ID: <001901c0ac1e$413f55c0$ed4053d8@washburn>
> I was part of the wave to join after ytsejam got a nod in the ACoS > liner. So...late '95.
Argh. Don't make me feel old. I was here to sign the petition for that thing back in the day. heheheh. Of course, I did go on about a year-long hiatus after that. So I guess I've been here since Nov. '94 minus a year. Jeez... life still eludes me... -- KorgX3 hasn't found anything better to do in 6 years.
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:06:18 -0500 From: JEFF GUTENBERG <aurakle@earthlink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Allan Holdsworth Fans on the Jam Message-ID: <B6D42E3A.130B%aurakle@earthlink.net>
Hi all...
I'm sure there are more than a few Allan Holdsworth fans here, and I count myself among them. He's actually my all-time favorite musician; hearing "Three Sheets to the Wind" off the "Road Games" mini-album changed my world completely. And don't forget, John Petrucci and Alex Lifeson (among many others) have stated that they are major AH fans as well.
-- Jeff :^)
(aka the artist formerly known as AURACLE@aol.com)
> From: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:23:50 -0800 (PST) > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: YTSEJAM digest 5795 > > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:50:35 -0500 > From: "Chris Calabrese" <dissident_agressor@hotmail.com> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Derek Sherinian - Jimmy Johnson? > Message-ID: <F57D6UW6tUcZSVFBUj0000095d9@hotmail.com> > > > Whoever posted about Derek's new CD...there is a guy named Jimmy Johnson who > played bass with Allan Holdsworth's I.O.U. band. Could this be the same > guy? If so, he's an INCREDIBLE bass player. > > ~Chris > > PS - Any other Allan Holdsworth fans here?
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:07:34 +1100 From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: old-timers Message-ID: <001101c0ac44$b0151860$c14236cb@PaulTadday>
Me too!!! I'm popular, good looking, great in the sack and a reaaaal legend!! Especially in my own lunch hour! *LOL*
--Paul. ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:04 AM Subject: Re: old-timers
> > > I have been on the jam for a very long time, and I am very well-known > and popular. > > -- > Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd > graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland > >
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:31:45 -0500 From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: old-timers Message-ID: <588181FC17815D11EA820005B88C77AC@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
On YtseJam since early 1994. Old timer then? Not sure.
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:46:55 -0600 From: "Chris Sparks" <sparky@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: tri ryche in space Message-ID: <50F0B18FF0815D11EA910005B8CC3ED3@sparky.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Found this recently, check out the third image down (Vela)... spooky, neh?
http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/space/06/08/chandra.discoveries/index.html
cheers, Chris
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Date: 14 Mar 2001 17:29:07 +0000 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DVD in Europe Message-ID: <86pufkcl98.fsf@picsel.com>
The Region 2 version Dream Theater DVD will be available from http://www.play247.com/ - the price is £14.99, with free delivery anywhere in Europe. This is £3 cheaper than Blackstar.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:45:17 -0800 From: "Wes Foll" <wesfoll@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: >5 year lurker Message-ID: <F15zbAUfKRfcjcMzfoV00002f61@hotmail.com>
>left. There's what, Korgy, Pellaz, Partha, Ptacek, Al, Coldie's >back... >but who else is around that's been a high-profile user (sorry, >I obviously >don't know you five-year lurkers, heh) for several years?
LURK MODE = OFF
I know you don't know me, but I've been on this list since about spring or summer of 1996. I used to be more talkative but I guess I'm just lazy. I think Pellaz knows who I am though hehe. I used to be known as "the guy with the huge Anthrax sig file," until Skadz told me to stop using it.
So, anyways, I just thought I'd make my yearly post today. See yaz,
LURK MODE = ON
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:22:49 -0500 From: "Metzger, Mark" <Mark.Metzger@comverse.com> To: "'Thoughts (SBEARD)'" <Thoughts@spocksbeard.net>, Subject: CDs for sale Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D3404D43DE9@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
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> Marillion - Real to Reel (official live CD) > Godsmack - Awake > Pantera - Official Live 101 Proof > Incubus - Make Yourself > Apocalypsis - No > Stratovarius - Forth Dimension > Creed - My Own Prison > The Quiet Room - Reconceive
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:20:38 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: old-timer Ytse-lurkers Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010314201941.03fb0c98@pop.tinagh.org>
At 03:40 PM 3/13/2001, you wrote: >I joined some time in '94. I did take a couple breaks from the list, >particularly during the height of Michael C.'s waaay off-topic religious >posts. :P > >Speaking of old timers, Zach, are you back out there? ;)
Hey, I remember you! I think we even met at the DT/FW show, 12/01/94...
Another old fart from 93 or so over here...
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:05:58 -0500 From: "Timothy Lodge" <lodge13@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: ytse old-farts Message-ID: <NEBBICCKCLCDIHDHAHBNCEJMCEAA.lodge13@home.com>
This is a good thread! Actually I've been on the 'jam give or take 2-4 week absences while changing ISP's since the tour for "Images and Words"...probably right after PMU hit bit on MTV...so that would be...1992? early 1993?
What a long strange trip it's been!
Tim Lodge
ps: BAFU VAI IS DA MAN!
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:41:47 +0100 From: "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Xmass CD... Message-ID: <003001c0ac62$9be013e0$0600005a@si.arnes.si>
Do you think it's still time to subscribe to fanclub and get this years Xmass CD? It's been a busy year and I got my priorities mixed up :P
Matej
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:17:36 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: how to make a ytseshirt Message-ID: <3AB1A1F0.865E31EA@optonline.com>
The screenprinter had me in yesterday to approve the color of the yellow shirts. Black is black, but yellow mustn't be trifled with. So it's down to Jersey for a looksee. They look nice. It's going to be a bit more of warmer yellow than i'd hoped but it looks good. Not schoolbus yellow(which is orange), certainly not "gold", just a nice rich yellow.
of course it's not quite what i had put on the site, so we had to do a little re-adjusting of the inkcolors. Screenprinter's ink is thick gooey stuff that gets on you just by looking at it, so after 10 minutes of mixing inks, i remembered why I like designing 'em, not printing them.
And that's just the ink. This isn't the easiest of the craft trades by far. So in case anyone was curious, let me explain a bit about the process of making t-shirts.
Basically, you rub color onto the shirt using a stencil. of course if there's more than one color, you need more than one stencil. And ofcourse, when you remove the first stencil and place down the second one, you have to line it up perfectly. And the color from the first stencil can't touch anything(like your hands) or it will get all over everything. And, the stencil itself might have tiny imperfections that you could never possibly see, but you'll seethe little holes and dots on your shirt just fine as the result. So you have to go brush stuff over the holes in the stencil for where there's dots in the shirt, and for where there's holes in the shirt, you have to take a pin and poke the itty bitty piece of stencil that shouldn't be there. And, you have to lay the color down with a squeegee type device. In fact, it is a squeegee. you squeegee a blob of color across your stencil and where it's poked through, color will be on your shirt. But of course, you can't do it to slow or the color will be all lumpy and streaky. Too fast and it won't go down right either. wrong angle? start over. lift up squeegee during swipe? start over. sneeze? ha! gotta fart? that's no problem, the solvent fumes will hide the smell.
See, you need to stretch the shirt across a little platform so it's flat when you rub the color across. And of course if it moves, start over. So you have to spray the little platform with adhesive spray, and then when you take the shirt off, there's a little film of shirt material still glued on. And, if there happens to be any molecules in the air just then, those will be stuck as well. By the 4th shirt you'll have a 1-inch think layer of crap adhered to your platform so you have to get it off. BUT IT'S ADHESIVE. So you have this huge vat of solvent(the one that's hiding your fart) by your side and the whole time you're printing, you're breathing it, especially when you open it every fourth shirt to clean your platform off.
You'll also need the solvent to get the adhesive, the ink, and the dust,and the crap, off your hands, arms, eyes, shoes, other shirts, and the rest of the tri-state area.
So anyway, i approved the yellow shirt, and i should have a final prototype soon, and then mass-production starts in earnest. Thankfully I won't be there for that part. I'll let you all know.
-josh
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Date: 16 Mar 2001 15:48:24 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Long timers and Luke Message-ID: <20010316154824.32217.qmail@meowmix.chek.com>
>Speaking of which, I wonder how many true old-timers are >still left on the 'jam. I mean, I wouldn't consider >myself a true old-timer, since I only joined in '97,
I've been here since the fall of 1998, by various e-mail addresses (new one in about three weeks!! woo!); I wouldn't call myself an old timer by any definition, but I'd say that I'll be here for the long haul!
>Hmm... what do people think of Steve Lukather. The only >stuff of his I have is this instructional video he did >and a concert with Jeff Beck and Santana both >of whom completely wipe the floor with him. What's he >been doing recently?
I think Luke's a fantastic player; I don't like his tone so much, 'cos I'm one of the purists who still believe that EMG is the work of the devil (even if I do have them in one of my jazz basses, bwa ha ha!). But his command of dynamics, his arrangements, his compositional skills (both in terms of music and solos) and his singing are absolutely fantastic. If I could see G3 or Luke, I'd see Luke (although I'm still surprised that he never joined that gig). In fact, I think that the only band I'd have to skip a Luke show for would be Dream Theater - and on this list, that should go without saying!
I still maintain that he's a far mroe interesting player than any of your Joe Vais or Steve Satrianis, or your Wngyies or Romeo Montagues or whatnot.
But then, I like Toto; so I obviously know jack about music. ;)
~Simon Who is awaiting his copy of "Inertia" with quite some expectation!
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:02:40 -0700 From: "Eric Barker" <barkere1@us.ibm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: old timer Message-ID: <OF5439ECFC.25D857A4-ON87256A11.007E7400@LocalDomain>
I prefer to be called a Ytse-Voyeur
Been around since 96-97.
Eric
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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:25:46 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Guitar Solo / Gladiator Message-ID: <3AB41CAA.7558AA7F@mol.com.mk>
Yo how come nobody mentioned this guitar solo from 16 August 2000, San Francisco, CA (LITS site) contains Zeppelin's HeartBreaker solo snippet?
I demand Zeps to be acknowledged. :) hehe
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