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YTSEJAM Digest 5849

Today's Topics:

1) DT font and schism
by "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
 2) = The Truth About Bankruptcy
by jenny33436@iVillage.com
 3) Re: DT font and schism
by "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
 4) fun with email
by "gloom gloom" <gloomchen@anada.net>
 5) spamadoo
by "gloom gloom" <gloomchen@anada.net>
 6) Re: DT font and schism
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
 7) RE: fun with email
by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
 8) Re: spamadoo
by "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
 9) superman III
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
10) re: spamadoo
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
11) Re: DT font and schism
by "Dan McCormack" <demccor@clemson.edu>
12) Work with a winner
by qwest2001@angelfire.com
13) Re:fakes and Lateralus spoilers
by "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
14) BUSINESS CONSULTANTS WANTED!
by ophrea123@excite.com
15) FII Japanese release
by WhoFooldU@aol.com
16) Schism/Lateralus
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
17) Government Grants Are For Real!!!!!!!!!! 31311
by mikeee1029@theteleonline.com
18) Re: Schism/Lateralus
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:03:30 +0300
From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT font and schism
Message-ID: <006001c0d9e8$7d239d60$82df6693@el00144>

Can anyone tell me where i can find the DT font Andrew Coutermarsh had
designed some time ago ? (sorry if i mispelled the name)
Is it different than another one that's out there from a guy name Cloak?
Thanks in advance

And btw,anyone listened to schism by Tool yet?It was on www.desense.com
yesterday.Opinions? Not what i expected :)

later

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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:30:35 -0800
From: jenny33436@iVillage.com
To: jenny33436@usa.net
Subject: = The Truth About Bankruptcy
Message-ID: <1hchstpl2a4s0xe51m0i.5nyn8v@hotmail.com>

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:59:45 -0400
From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT font and schism
Message-ID: <003501c0da09$7dda6740$0300005a@kezp3800>

----- Original Message -----
]From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:05 AM
Subject: DT font and schism

>
> Can anyone tell me where i can find the DT font Andrew Coutermarsh had
> designed some time ago ? (sorry if i mispelled the name)
> Is it different than another one that's out there from a guy name Cloak?
> Thanks in advance
>
> And btw,anyone listened to schism by Tool yet?It was on www.desense.com
> yesterday.Opinions? Not what i expected :)
>
> later
>

Andrew = Cloak

Same person, same font.

You're welcome. :)

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:59:57 -0500
From: "gloom gloom" <gloomchen@anada.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: fun with email
Message-ID: <000601c0da11$e5f7dee0$c02d0b18@dubuq1.ia.home.com>

> "Summer Schissel" <summer@anada.net> writes:

> > I am one of those people that needs to post from any address.

> Why?

See how that says "summer@anada.net"? It wasn't supposed to come from that
address. I run about 7 email accounts through this one Outlook, and they
all serve different purposes. I have some set up to nab from work or other
places, some not.

I think I'm subscribed here at phairgirl@hoe.nu, or maybe
phairgirl@anada.net, I honestly don't know anymore because I have literally
hundreds of email aliases and many of them I don't use anymore. I can check
the headers and find out, but then I'd have to set up a new version of an
old account in order to unsubscribe, and then delete that old account and
sign it up with something else. More than likely at this stage in the game,
because of all the variables, I'd create a new email account specifically
for the 'jam just to avoid any switching in the future, and it's just damned
annoying.

But if I have to, I will do it. See, I'm flexible :)

`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
Anada e'zine: http://anada.net
The Anada Music Project: http://music.anada.net
e-mail: gloomchen@anada.net
AIM: demonicpikachu

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:15:08 -0500
From: "gloom gloom" <gloomchen@anada.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: spamadoo
Message-ID: <000701c0da14$04e6a780$c02d0b18@dubuq1.ia.home.com>

> > I'm actually amused how up in arms everyone is about the spam
considering
> > it's not like we don't all get spam ANYWAY and just completely ignore
it.
> > Ahhhh well. I suppose I could mess around and screw with my email and
blah
> > blah blah just to stop the complaining. That is, of course, if SKADZ
CAVES.

> I take many measures to keep from getting spam. I own my own domain, so I
> give explicit email addresses when I have to sign up for things.
Addresses
> like cdnow@klindt.org, ebay@klindt.org, usenet@klindt.org. I had to get
rid
> of my previous email address, pendragn@netins.net, because of the
> unmanageable amount of spam it received. The YtseSpam just adds to an
> already unnecessary pain in my ass.

I own a couple of my own domains. I, too, use specific email addresses,
many of which point to null after I am finished with them. But those aren't
the problem at all! My email address is ALL OVER the internet because of
projects I run and such, to the point that every spider online that nabs
emails from web pages hits a goldmine with mine. I often get 4-5 of the
exact same spam mail sent to 4-5 different addresses of mine. It's a joy.
But I can't kill those addresses because I need to be able to respond when
people contact me.

This is actually the perfect month for my example, because I decided during
May to not permanently delete my spam, just to see how much I receive.
Don't you know that by the 8th I'd gotten almost 100 spam emails? I've been
known to get over 20 on a bad day. And as much fun as it would be to just
kill 'em all, I can't because I run a magazine and a music site among other
things, and if people have problems finding the right, working address, they
won't bother, and that's just not cool.

So after years of this, spam does not bother me in the least anymore. I'm
handy with the delete key. So now you know... the rest of the story.

And now, just to make this post worthwhile:

Why is it that I can put on "Awake" and fall asleep before CIaW is over, but
if I put on Pink Floyd's "Animals," I absolutely CAN NOT FALL ASLEEP?

--summer

`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
Anada e'zine: http://anada.net
The Anada Music Project: http://music.anada.net
e-mail: gloomchen@anada.net
AIM: demonicpikachu

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:42:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT font and schism
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105110941240.21278-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

On Fri, 11 May 2001, Nicholas Sakkos wrote:

> Can anyone tell me where i can find the DT font Andrew Coutermarsh
> had designed some time ago ? (sorry if i mispelled the name) Is it
> different than another one that's out there from a guy name Cloak?
> Thanks in advance

Nope, Cloak and I are the same person. :)

You can get the font at http://cout.dhs.org/dtlogofont.zip

-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
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Never pet a burning dog.
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:54:25 -0500
From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: fun with email
Message-ID: <011201c0da21$e4558640$3364a8c0@klindt.org>

Many list server packages will allow you to subscribe without receiving any
email. You could subscribe six of your seven accounts to not receive email.
The seventh subscribe normally. That way you get one copy of all the
YtseJams, without the YtseSpams, and you can post from any of your
addresses. Not that big of deal really. Unless of course you need to know
"The Truth About Bankruptcy". The latest YtseSpam.

-----Original Message-----
]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
gloom gloom
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:08 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: fun with email

> "Summer Schissel" <summer@anada.net> writes:

> > I am one of those people that needs to post from any address.

> Why?

But if I have to, I will do it. See, I'm flexible :)

`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
Anada e'zine: http://anada.net
The Anada Music Project: http://music.anada.net
e-mail: gloomchen@anada.net
AIM: demonicpikachu

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:58:29 +0300
From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: spamadoo
Message-ID: <001101c0da2a$d7d1b3e0$9bdf6693@el00144>

> Why is it that I can put on "Awake" and fall asleep before CIaW is over,
but
> if I put on Pink Floyd's "Animals," I absolutely CAN NOT FALL ASLEEP?
>
> --summer
>

The "Awake phenomenon" is been known for some time in the DT community.
I'm told it has to do with reverse psychology.As for animals,do you consider
yourself a vegeterian?If not,it's simple,your belly button is screwed all
backwards.

see yeh

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: superman III
Message-ID: <20010511150309.10243.qmail@web3403.mail.yahoo.com>

>There's a new discount coupon at CD Now, 15% off -
>minimum purchase 9.955 dollars. Expires May 22.

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one, but I sawthat line
above, with the 9.955, and my mind jumped right to
Superman III, where Richard Pryor programs the
computers to delivers all the fractions of pennies
straight into his bank account.....and for some
reason, I felt the need to share.

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: spamadoo
Message-ID: <20010511160243.86872.qmail@web12103.mail.yahoo.com>

"Summer Schissel" <summer@anada.net> writes:

> I am one of those people that needs to post from any
address.

Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> asks:

> Why?

Let's take a guess... Summer uses multiple computers,
and multiple e-mail systems. Some of those belong to
other people, or she doesn't use them enough to
actually subscribe to the jam on all of them. But she
still needs to be able to send a message to the jam at
any time from any where, as there's no telling when
some DT content will pop into her head...

On the other hand, maybe she actually IS one of the
spammers, and wants to be able to pass on all these
wonderful opportunities to you...

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:23:23 -0400
From: "Dan McCormack" <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT font and schism
Message-ID: <018301c0da36$b381eee0$6b312ac4@clemson.edu>

]From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
Subject: DT font and schism

> And btw,anyone listened to schism by Tool yet?It was on www.desense.com
> yesterday.Opinions? Not what i expected :)

i think its pretty good. sounds sort of like he is mixing tool with perfect
circle, but i like both a lot so i dont mind :) have you heard any of the
fake versions out there? some of them are really funny :) my personal
favorite (of the fake ones) is the one that is 8,088,679 bytes. if i was on
a modem and had just downloaded that big 8 meg file i would be pissed when i
heard it :) the other one i like is the one that is 4,220,928 bytes. if you
are on a fast connection i recommend you download as many of them as you can
find. i imagine they will become collectors items down the road :) anyways
they are interesting to listen to at least. moo.

*** END OF TRANSMISSION ***

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:14:51
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To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Work with a winner
Message-ID: <200105111912.FAA23380@suna1.>

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 23:16:27 +0300
From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re:fakes and Lateralus spoilers
Message-ID: <002901c0da57$cf884c80$d8df6693@el00144>

The Cowgod wrote

> have you heard any of the
> fake versions out there? some of them are really funny

Nope,just got a humble 56k connection.One other favorite fake is
a song called Nirvana_cover_by_metallica(rare-rare-rare).mp3.
Just 28 sec long :)

Anyway,the intro-main riff sounds kind of proggy (to me at least)
but it tends to get kind of repetitive throughout the song.
Different production than their other releases for sure.
And now some interesting Lateralus info very few people know
and i really need to share with you guys....

------------S P O I L E R---------S P O I L E R---------------

In the beginning of the songs "Grudge" and "Bridge of Ticks" there is
a drill-type noise that can also be heard at 11:08 of "Third Eye" of
the Salival boxset. (no sh*te!)

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Till next time

np:Dario Mollo-Tony Martin: The Cage (anyone know who Mollo is?)

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:55:39 EDT
From: WhoFooldU@aol.com
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: FII Japanese release
Message-ID: <46.14868338.282dabcb@aol.com>

If anyone is looking for a brand new copy of it, I happen to know a store that has one is stock locally. I think it was priced for $26.99. Shoot me and e-mail and we can work out the details.

Glenn

NP: Jane's Addiction - Nothing Shocking

back to lurking...

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Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:11:38 +1000
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Schism/Lateralus
Message-ID: <000b01c0da80$81418e00$224436cb@PaulTadday>

I think Schism is awesome.
It was pretty much what I would have expected as a single from Lateralus.
It's definately got a Forty Six and Two feel about it with a touch of Third
Eye and APC thrown in also.
I can't wait to get my hands on the cd on Monday!

The dj on JJJ here in Oz mentioned that Tool will be doing shows with King
Crimson and made the comment that it's "the prog rock gods from the 70's
teaming up with the prog rock gods of today!"
A pretty profound comment to make I would have thought. ;-P

What are the "fake" versions that are floating around on Napster of?
Aren't they just earlier Tool tracks disguised with the new titles?

-Paul.

----- Original Message -----
]From: Dan McCormack <demccor@clemson.edu>

> have you heard any of the
> fake versions out there? some of them are really funny :) my personal
> favorite (of the fake ones) is the one that is 8,088,679 bytes. if i was
on
> a modem and had just downloaded that big 8 meg file i would be pissed when
i
> heard it :) the other one i like is the one that is 4,220,928 bytes. if
you
> are on a fast connection i recommend you download as many of them as you
can
> find. i imagine they will become collectors items down the road :) anyways
> they are interesting to listen to at least. moo.

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Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:10:39 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Schism/Lateralus
Message-ID: <3AFC9B9F.84832BA0@optushome.com.au>

Paul Tadday wrote:

> I think Schism is awesome.
> It was pretty much what I would have expected as a single from Lateralus.
> It's definately got a Forty Six and Two feel about it with a touch of Third
> Eye and APC thrown in also.
> I can't wait to get my hands on the cd on Monday!

Well it's out there if you look, I have had the whole album in mp3 for a week now.
I am not a big fan of the band, but it's pretty impressive.

> The dj on JJJ here in Oz mentioned that Tool will be doing shows with King
> Crimson and made the comment that it's "the prog rock gods from the 70's
> teaming up with the prog rock gods of today!"
> A pretty profound comment to make I would have thought. ;-P

Speaking of touring, if Planet X can manage to find a promoter to bring them out to Oz
then why the hell can't DT ?
If anyone is going to the PX show at the Metro in Sydney and wants to meet up before the show
then send me an email.

graham

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