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Date: Sat May 26 2001 - 00:14:22 EDT

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YTSEJAM Digest 5861

Today's Topics:

1) becker and friedman
by Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
 2) RE: becker and friedman
by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
 3) Need Money? Quick Approvals!
by yvonne21@info.stillnet.com.br
 4) I'm back...
by acey20@hotmail.com
 5) DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
by "Charles Farrell" <Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>
 6) Not Seen on TV!
by wala32a6260@ematic.com
 7) Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
 8) Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
 9) Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
10) Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
11) Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:07:13 -0700
From: Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: becker and friedman
Message-ID: <3B0E20C1.64FA623@home.com>

lot of talk about marty and jason lately.
imo, both among the best shred, phrasing guitarists of all time.
becker was just so amazing for someone who was so young.
and still, up to this date, deserves more credit than received.

so we over here wanted to know...
what songs of theirs do you "the fans" like? and why?
megadeth and cacophony material included.

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 08:52:11 -0500
From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: becker and friedman
Message-ID: <011501c0e521$e61bb1b0$3364a8c0@klindt.org>

Desert Island off of Speed Metal Symphony has always been a favorite of
mine. As well as most of Becker's Perspective. Awesome disk. The liner
notes nearly make me cry.

Todd O. Klindt, MCSE
todd@klindt.org
"Remember, the government doesn't create one dollar.
When you get a dollar, that means the government
took it from someone else."
-Governor Jesse Ventura

-----Original Message-----
]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
Dyne
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 4:41 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: becker and friedman

so we over here wanted to know...
what songs of theirs do you "the fans" like? and why?
megadeth and cacophony material included.

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 23:37:26 +0100
From: "Charles Farrell" <Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
Message-ID: <NDBBINHLDLPJGIMLBOPGGEPEDJAA.Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>

First posted on Monday - but 4 days later it doesn't seem to have made it to
the list, so here goes again.

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Just back at work after a weekend in Paris watching some cool bands and
attending the convention of the French fanclub at which Mr Portnoy himself
was present.

Due to some technical problems, it wasn't possible to show a video which
Mike had prepared on the current recording sessions. However there was a
long question and answer section with Mike in French and English) during
which he gave some details about the disks they have been listening to while
in the Studio (NIN, Pantera, Tool, Radiohead etc) and explained that the new
disk was darker, describing it as a mix of Awake and LTE.

[NB IT apears that the correct video player wasn't used. IT was viewed
yesterday on a SONY and the guys were able to explain on the Your Majesty
list, what it contained. The viedo will be available for download from
websites soon - when a suitable site is found and the files are converted
etc.]

During the Q and A sessoin, a guy who used to live in Australia, once again
raised the famous 'Australian Question'. Mike patiently explained that the
band would like to visit that part of the world, as they had already been to
most other places, but at the end of the day it was down to the local
promoter to arrange something. Maybe the Australian fans should organise a
'tour fund' along the same lines as the American fans did for Marillion.
More and more fans seem to be branching out and promoting events to feature
their favourite bands, so maybe now is the time for a fan to pick up and run
with the project if the promoters wont. I realize that the airfares alone
would represent a considerable cost, but I'm sure that other fans would also
chip in. I'm sure that its not quite that simple and that there are other
considerations, but I just wanted to mention that the question was raised
and that Mike, as ever, would like it to happen.

Anyway overall the Q and A was pretty cool. Following that, there was time
to buy fanzines, gorge at the CD stalls and try out one of those guitars
which JP plays. Just about everyone who tried it out played part of
Metropolis or The Silent Man. Are these the first tunes that most DT fans
who are guitarists learn to play?

After the convention, there was a gig featuring French band 'Regency' who
played some interesting Instrumental metal - more interesting to my ears
than the LTE disks anyway *Flame shields up*. Then 30 minutes of ARK, who
were amazing - especially their awesome vocalist Jorn Lande and finally,
after some technical problems some band called Pain of Salvation. I didn't
much care for them the first time I saw them, but this time they were
great - despite the problems they had with their equipment. Both ARK and Pos
were really cool with the fans and it seemed like a good part of the
audience joined them after the gig in a pizza restaurant.

The metal weekend ended last night with an awesome gig from the dutch band
Within Temptation, which was, for me, even better than PoS. Brilliant stuff.

Charlie

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:43:17 -0400
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Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:15:48 +1000
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
Message-ID: <000601c0e589$c84020a0$aa3536cb@PaulTadday>

That's great to hear!
I think I may have to start trying to make a few contacts down here to show
the local promoters that there is huge interest in seeing DT live downunder!

Paul.

----- Original Message -----
]From: Charles Farrell <Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>

> During the Q and A sessoin, a guy who used to live in Australia, once
again
> raised the famous 'Australian Question'. Mike patiently explained that the
> band would like to visit that part of the world, as they had already been
to
> most other places, but at the end of the day it was down to the local
> promoter to arrange something. Maybe the Australian fans should organise a
> 'tour fund' along the same lines as the American fans did for Marillion.
> More and more fans seem to be branching out and promoting events to
feature
> their favourite bands, so maybe now is the time for a fan to pick up and
run
> with the project if the promoters wont. I realize that the airfares alone
> would represent a considerable cost, but I'm sure that other fans would
also
> chip in. I'm sure that its not quite that simple and that there are other
> considerations, but I just wanted to mention that the question was raised
> and that Mike, as ever, would like it to happen.

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Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 13:18:06 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
Message-ID: <3B0F206D.AB24AE87@optushome.com.au>

Paul Tadday wrote:

> That's great to hear!
> I think I may have to start trying to make a few contacts down here to show
> the local promoters that there is huge interest in seeing DT live downunder!

That's the problem, there isn't huge interest and the promoters know this.
It's been tried already, a petition was sent to a couple of promoters a couple years
back and they weren't interested, they even spelt DT name Dream Theatre....
When they replied, that says it all.

graham

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Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 13:37:31 +1000
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
Message-ID: <008301c0e595$32a780e0$aa3536cb@PaulTadday>

Then explain to me why bands such as Cradle Of Filth, Morbid Angel, Voi Vod,
Nevermore, and heaps of other lesser known bands tour here and play shitty
pubs and clubs?? The same shitty places that I play with my "unknown" band!!
Are you telling me that they arre more popular than DT???
Not likely!!

Paul.
----- Original Message -----
]From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>

> That's the problem, there isn't huge interest and the promoters know this.
> It's been tried already, a petition was sent to a couple of promoters a
couple years
> back and they weren't interested, they even spelt DT name Dream
Theatre....
> When they replied, that says it all.
>
> graham

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Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 13:44:13 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
Message-ID: <3B0F268D.D98CC71C@optushome.com.au>

Paul Tadday wrote:

> Then explain to me why bands such as Cradle Of Filth, Morbid Angel, Voi Vod,
> Nevermore, and heaps of other lesser known bands tour here and play shitty
> pubs and clubs?? The same shitty places that I play with my "unknown" band!!
> Are you telling me that they arre more popular than DT???
> Not likely!!

You'd be better off asking the promoter of the above bands this and not me.
Well obviously the promoters taht bring these types of bands out must know something
that you and I don't.
I ask myself the same thing, like Planet X touring here...
And I would certainly hazzard a guess that sales wise, Cradle Of Filth and Nevermore
do more than DT here.

graham

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Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:00:23 -0400
From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: DT Convention + The AUSTRALIAN Question
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010525234657.01df7060@cs.millersville.edu>

>Then explain to me why bands such as Cradle Of Filth, Morbid Angel, Voi Vod,
>Nevermore, and heaps of other lesser known bands tour here and play shitty
>pubs and clubs?? The same shitty places that I play with my "unknown" band!!
>Are you telling me that they arre more popular than DT???

Maybe these bands want less money/support than DT does? I've no real idea,
but $$ is always a possibility.

Brian

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