YTSEJAM Digest 5949
Today's Topics:
1) RE: Vai/Petrucci
by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
2) DS/royal hunt
by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@home.com>
3) Mullmuzzler2
by BillBishmn@aol.com
4) Re: DS/royal hunt
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
5) Re: Vai @ G3 (last post - I hope)
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
6) Iced Earth
by "Joe DeAngelo" <joe.deangelo@home.com>
7) Vai @ G3 (last post - I hope), concerts.....
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
8) Re: Vai @ G3 (last post - I hope), concerts.....
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:01:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Vai/Petrucci
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010831100017.13862A-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 fredrik@kilander.com wrote:
> It looks as if this discussion has ended up in a personal argument between two
> fans. I find this quite uninteresting, so I'll ask you: "Can't we all just get
> along", and accept that while different people act differently on stage - which
> is GOOD - both Vai and Petrucci are among the gods of guitarplaying, and let
> them continue being that?
"Amen."
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:01:25 -0700
From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DS/royal hunt
Message-ID: <004801c1323e$91f99a60$4a63f818@sttln1.wa.home.com>
> Derek was
> playing a stationary keyboard, but it was positioned as if it was one of
> those keyboards that you carry around like a guitar. Pretty
> weird... Why would he do something like that?
Who knows, maybe to show off. That would be like him, no? :)
Seriously though, I think that would be cool too see what he was doing.
I like his set up with DT. I like it when keyboarders use unique set-ups.
I've seen players with keyboards that looked like they were on a giant
spring
so it would bend down to the right and left, and the new guy in Styx has his
board on a 360 degree spinning platform.....
> Changing topics, I received a mailing informing me that the new Royal Hunt
> album was out. It's called Mission. Any reviews or opinions about this
> album? Any info would be appreciated.
I have it. It's in the car player. First thing I noticed was the bad sound.
Had to
turn the treble way down and crank the bass. I'm only on the second song,
but
it sounds pretty good. John West is back on Vocals........I'll send a better
review
when I drive somewhere.......
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:11:43 EDT
From: BillBishmn@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Mullmuzzler2
Message-ID: <12d.3ef88bc.28c1497f@aol.com>
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This is an AWESOME piece of music. Very much
like Dream Theater musically. I feel it is much better
that the first one. This is a must have for DT and James
LaBrie Fans.
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 06:37:38 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: TREVOR HOIT <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DS/royal hunt
Message-ID: <19429482599.20010901063738@optushome.com.au>
TH> I have it. It's in the car player. First thing I noticed was the bad sound.
TH> Had to
TH> turn the treble way down and crank the bass. I'm only on the second song,
TH> but
TH> it sounds pretty good. John West is back on Vocals........I'll send a better
TH> review
TH> when I drive somewhere.......
Great album, full of some of the best Royal Hunt songs I've heard.
Way heavier than the previous keyboard dominated RH sound.
Only let down, as Trvor says, by the lack of bass and way too much
treble in the sound.
Apart from that it' one of the year's best and great to RH doing
something a little different.
-- Best regards, Graham mailto:gjboyle@optushome.com.au------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:44:28 -0700 From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Vai @ G3 (last post - I hope) Message-ID: <B7B5615C.24CD%schansen@cts.com>
Rob Denni states: > the responses. And Scott(I do mean Scott), I just > think your Vai bashing, considering the only multiple > shows you don't complain about involve bands that > don't move around alot i.e. Satch, Rush, DT/Petrucci.
Think what you want - all I did was express what *I* saw and what my opinion of it was. I wasn't bad-mouthing him, slamming him, whatever. I will continue to see his shows when I can and continue to listen to his music - does that sound like someone who likes "Vai bashing"?
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Frederik sez: > It looks as if this discussion has ended up in a personal argument between two > fans. I find this quite uninteresting, so I'll ask you: "Can't we all just > get > along", and accept that while different people act differently on stage - > which > is GOOD - both Vai and Petrucci are among the gods of guitarplaying, and let > them continue being that?
While I'll agree that this thread has become uninteresting - especially since I've tried to re-state my whole viewpoint (unsuccessfully I might add), I wouldn't call this a personal argument. Trust me, me and Chris have gotten into heated debates before - this is nothing compared to that. And in all honesty, I'd like to think that this topic has come to an end - I've said my piece, Chris has said his and Rob Denni's got his opinion. ;o) 'Nuff said...
Scott
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:58:17 -0400 From: "Joe DeAngelo" <joe.deangelo@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Iced Earth Message-ID: <004201c13270$6c287040$d0c90741@stcl1.mi.home.com>
<<Iced Earth - Horrow Show 2CD limited edition>
>You just lost all my respect. That cd owns.
Personally, I was HUGELY disapointed with it. I LOVE Iced Earth, they're one of my favorite bands......but Horror show was just weak IMO.
- Joe D.
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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:40:37 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Vai @ G3 (last post - I hope), concerts..... Message-ID: <005501c132b1$19848540$15a8f094@compaq.net.mx>
NOO!!! I won't let this thread die now!!!! Keep the flames comin' guys!!!
Nahh, i was kidding on this one (or being an asshole....take your pick).
I just wanted to communicate here, that after some 2 or 3 years of not having more than 1 really worthy concert a year in my hometown (Monterrey, MX), this season is shaping up good in that sense. And better yet: with good guitar players! (scrap Wankwie..)
Today, there was a Paul Gilbert Ibanez clinic. He had his hair short.....that was a shocking sight! He's very tall as well....and a very funny guy, with very diverse music tastes. He played everything...from shred, to blues, to a spice girls song (with the solo of Stairway to Heaven at mid tempo right in the middle!), to Hendrix, to Bach, to Puffy (a japanese Beatles-like band)...you name it! He also jammed with 6 local guitarists...and boy, they all did well, i wasn't expecting that!......but one started flashing a little too much, and Paul crushed him doing the same thing but much better and faster! He played a seven string on a solo song called "Let the computer decide", and was doing some mean arpeggios, aided by some weird tuning that allowed him to play that easier than it would have been with standard tuning. He also played "Mt. Fuji Christmas" and "Down to Mexico" (what a shocker....), and "Scarified". Well...as you may judge now...it was more of a concert than a clinic...but there was a couple of Q&A sessions. And, of course...an autograph session. Cool! It was a diverse audience...mostly non-guitarists....but there was a lot of guitarists and musicians....I think there were like 1500 people in the venue.
Yngwie is coming as well...but for a concert. As you may have already heard, he's got Derek on the keys. That means that i'll have to dust off my FII tourbook, which he and JP didn't sign.
Then, i was reading the newspaper (or just glancing at it...) and noticed a big G3 concert ad! YAY!!! I thought that i would have to go to Mexico city again (i saw DT there...), but this time they are coming! I got my tix already! ALMOST on the front...that'll do. I'll stalk him until he signs my FII tourbook...that photo is SOOO great. Shite..i'm so excited! Vai rocked on the first G3 (i have only seen the first G3 concert), and his band is amazing. I'll check them wankers out and decide who was wrong or right on this "showman...bal blah" thread. Yeah right...
Mauricio
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 00:16:19 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Vai @ G3 (last post - I hope), concerts..... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010901001412.02820c50@pop-server.san.rr.com>
At 11:42 PM 8/31/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> Today, there was a Paul Gilbert Ibanez clinic. He had his hair >short.....that was a shocking sight! Ah, you should have seen him at the end of the G3 show in LA... no shirt, lime green sequined spandex pants, big pink guitar... hehe
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