YTSEJAM digest 6164

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Sun Apr 07 2002 - 15:17:59 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 6164

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Oldtimers!!!
     by "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>
      2) Re: Oldtimers!!!
     by "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>
      3) Memory Lane
     by Barbara Battaglia <babs4@frontiernet.net>
      4) Re: Entombed
     by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
      5) Re: Entombed
     by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
      6) Re: Oldtimers
     by "Dave Neff" <nerf1@erols.com>
      7) Another Old One...
     by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
      8) VH1 Classic is my new hero
     by "gloom gloom" <gloomchen@anada.net>
      9) Re: Another Old One...
     by Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
     10) Re: Oldtimers unite!
     by "Jennifer" <jennifer@jenniebear.com>
     11) Britney Spears naked...
     by Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
     12) Re: Oldtimers
     by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
     13) Re: Old times...
     by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
     14) Re: Rush single
     by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
     15) Re: Rush single
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net>
     16) Re: Oldtimers unite!
     by Graham Borland <graham@moonbog.net>

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    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:41:18 -0500
    From: "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Oldtimers!!!
    Message-ID: <000001c1dda3$1d84ba50$6501a8c0@duron>

    Hi everyone,

    I've been around since about May of 1995 too, right around the time I.
    Little did I know that obsession would continue THIS long <g>.

    I bought a couple of silver discs from Mike Bahr and had absolutely no
    problem with him or his service. Glad to see he's starting to redeem
    himself in some fans' eyes.

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    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:48:02 -0500
    From: "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Oldtimers!!!
    Message-ID: <000101c1dda4$08c3cfb0$6501a8c0@duron>

    Hi everyone,

    I've been around since about May of 1995 too, right around the time I.
    Little did I know that obsession would continue THIS long <g>.

    I bought a couple of silver discs from Mike Bahr and had absolutely no
    problem with him or his service. Glad to see he's starting to redeem
    himself in some fans' eyes.

    I saw DT for the first time in November 1997, in Washington D.C. I met
    up with a group of Ytsejammers who congregated in the basement of some
    guy's house in Bethesda. Wish I had gotten there earlier so I could
    have jammed with you all! It was outside that show at the Capitol
    Ballroom, where the "Bafu" shout began. (We actually *were* looking for
    Bafu Vai!)

    The next time I went to see DT, I also was desparately looking for Bafu.
    I was a college student without a car, and he was supposed to give me a
    ride to the show in Baltimore. He was supposed to pick me up at a train
    station in DC, but he accidentally told me to go to the wrong one! I
    waited there for an hour, and finally decided he must not be coming. So
    rather than do the responsible thing (go home) I took a commuter train
    up to Baltimore, took a $40 taxi to this SHITHOLE bar in the boonies,
    and saw a great DT show.

    After the show, it was 1AM and I really had no idea how I was gonna get
    home! Fortunately, I met up with Bafu and Kez and a couple other
    jammers, and met the band for the first time. I got a free dinner out
    of it from Kez :)

    Ryan

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    Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 14:55:40 -0500
    From: Barbara Battaglia <babs4@frontiernet.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Memory Lane
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020406145540.007ffe80@pop3.frontiernet.net>

    It has been fun going down memory lane. I think we should all try to post
    here a little more often and try to keep life into this list. I've been
    absent for a long time because for a while the 'jam had turned into a huge
    whine-fest (LOL). This was actually the very first mailing list I was ever
    on. I think the very first person I ever spoke via email on from here was
    Tom Tubbiola. Tom, if you're still here, say hello!!!! I've been very
    fortunate, most of the people I started yakking on here with I've kept in
    touch with over the years :)

    Ah the ytsejam, I think I'll try to dig out one of my boots that has that
    exact same tune on....

    BABS

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    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:56:29 -0600
    From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Entombed
    Message-ID: <20020406.135630.-436377.5.kurt.hampton@juno.com>

    <Entombed are supposed to be touring the States next month, along with
    Hypocrisy, Immortal, and Scar Culture. I'm thinking this may have been
    nixed, however, since I haven't heard anything about it in a few weeks
    (and
    it'll be May soon enough).>

    I thought Hypocripsy and scar culture were booked on the upcoming Arch
    Enemy/Soilwork tour.

    I would dig a more lenghty review of the cd, I have always wondered about
    those guys.

    Speaking of Soilwork though, I got the new cd in the mail yesterday.
    Amazing stuff. THose guys are really writing some great hooks.

    Kurt
    NP-Testament 1990 live (some boot)

    Kurts Trade Page:
    www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html
    Ytsekurt on AOL IM
    "Cmon Orlando Shake your f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00

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    Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 15:41:30 -0500
    From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Entombed
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20020406152758.01983fa8@cs.millersville.edu>

    >I thought Hypocripsy and scar culture were booked on the upcoming Arch
    >Enemy/Soilwork tour.

    May well be true -- I got my info from a Century Media press release, but
    it was sent a couple weeks ago, so could be plans have changed since
    then. Last I heard Soilwork wasn't touring the US until the fall, and then
    with In Flames, and Arch Enemy, as far as I know, was only set to play the
    two festivals this weekend (neither of which I am at, dammit). There
    aren't dates on any of the bands' websites, so I really can't verify anything.

    >I would dig a more lenghty review of the cd, I have always wondered about
    >those guys.

    Check out http://www.entombed.net/ They've got a bunch of reviews posted
    for the album, as well as several downloadable MP3s.

    Brian

    =============================================
    WB Henderson [wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu]
    Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio, 10-11.30pm Wed): http://ahp.musicpage.com/
    Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio, 11.30pm-1am Wed):
    http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/
    WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/
    WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/
    =============================================

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    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 18:07:49 -0500
    From: "Dave Neff" <nerf1@erols.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Oldtimers
    Message-ID: <000b01c1ddbf$dfb72ba0$a2dbfea9@oemcomputer>

    >From: <bduester@mindspring.com>
    > Shout out - to my buddy back in PA - Dave Neff!!!
    Duester bud! I knew you'd chime in sooner or later! :)
    Sorry you missed the Philly show, but Tom and I had kinda
    crummy seats (2nd & 3rd from the wall, row KK [11] or so).
    The show was great; the sound wasn't so great where we were.

    >From: ponte@epix.net
    > Philly show was amazing! Drove from Allentown to Philly..
    Glad to see a growing number of Lehigh Valley fans aboard!
    P.S. I'm a Nazareth boy. Maybe DT could do Musikfest sometime
    soon! ... speaking of which, Kansas will be there this year
    as well as Blue Oyster Cult and Live, among many others.
    http://www.musikfest.org

    >From: Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com>
    > Home For the Holidays Tour (and meeting a bunch of
    > other 'old timers' at the Fantazia Diner as we were
    > all getting kicked out...E-Man, Hairball, etc....)
    Did you mean D-Man as in (Chris?) Digital Man, or Elliott Kim?
    Either/or, both were there, as I recall.
    I sat at a table at the Fantazia with D-Man, Skadz, and ...
    somebody else. Who were you??

    I have a terrible secret to admit. I signed the ACOS petition.
    Soon after, I got an email from an unfamiliar addy saying
    something like "Thanks for being a fan, [signed] John".
    I foolishly deleted it and never forwarded it here. John
    who I don't know. Might have been a hoax but I doubt it.
    Some seven years later, Thanks, Either-John, or whoever you were.

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    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 18:18:19 -0500
    From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
    To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Another Old One...
    Message-ID: <NFBBLDJBELFOGJCLHDCBOELBGKAA.dthomas@best.com>

    OK, you brought me out of my cave for a moment...

    Been here since right after Awake came out or so. I don't remember exactly.
    That was about five computers and seven or so mailfiles ago...

    I miss the old #ytsejam channel. I wish I had transcripts of some of the
    nonsense that went on there.

    I've met a lot of people on this list, or that used to be on this list,
    anyway. I still have that pic on my hard drive where we had a gathering at
    our house before a DT show in SF. That was a fun day.

    I ran a website for awhile that some of you might have visited occasionally.
    It's still out there, but hasn't been updated in about two years. I still
    think about updating it from time to time. We'll see.

    I live in Baltimore now with my two cats. I'm divorced (not my idea or
    really anything I did, but other than financially, probably a good thing for
    me) and trying really hard to find a better job. I'll probably go to The
    Flower Kings show at Jaxx next week, though will likely have to leave before
    the show is over (stupid Thursday night shows) so I can get some sleep
    before work the next day. I'll wear either a Spiral Architect shirt or some
    sort of roller-coaster related shirt. Come yell at me if you like (I'm sure
    someone will).

    OK, back to my cave...

    Dave Thomas
    DaveT@pixelplanet.com

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    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:23:11 -0600
    From: "gloom gloom" <gloomchen@anada.net>
    To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: VH1 Classic is my new hero
    Message-ID: <003101c1ddc2$04d757a0$7664db0c@mchsi.com>

    So, I'm sitting in my living room reading the Rolling Stone Encyclopedia of
    Rock (I'm such a nerd) with VH1 Classic on in the background. They'd just
    finished up a set of 80s teen movie songs (you know, stuff by Orchestral
    Manoevres in the Dark, Simply Red, Michael Sembello) and were starting into
    the 5:00 hour (central time). It appeared to be a hard rock block, as they
    started out with Motley Crue's "Wildside." Then, they played...

    PULL ME UNDER.

    Absolutely no shit. I marked out like a little bitch, I turned the TV up to
    11, I ran and jumped around, sang along, and experienced that same initial
    reaction I'd felt when I first saw them on Headbanger's Ball way back in the
    way back days.

    So, uh, anyway, I'm a big nerd as I mentioned before, and I tend to watch a
    lot of VH1 Classic. I happen to know from experience that they repeat all
    of their videos in 8-hour blocks. This means that you can see PMU played
    again at approximately 1:05am CST tonight/tomorrow morning. Not that a
    bunch of us don't have it on the Live in Tokyo video or something, but it's
    so much BETTER seeing it played over live stream where you just know that
    someone else is seeing it possibly for the first time.

    And if you do catch the video, you'll be oh so excited to see a Faster
    Pussycat video immediately afterwards... hahahaha.

    But even if you don't get the channel, or you missed it due to this being in
    a late digest or something, you can rest assured that someone out there in
    VH1 land knows that OFB exists. And that makes me even happier than
    watching the video again.

    --summer

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    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 20:15:29 -0500 (EST)
    From: Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Another Old One...
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10204062008200.29715-100000@optical.mindstorm.com>

    On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Dave Thomas wrote:

    > OK, you brought me out of my cave for a moment...
    >
    > Been here since right after Awake came out or so. I don't remember exactly.
    > That was about five computers and seven or so mailfiles ago...
    >
    > I miss the old #ytsejam channel. I wish I had transcripts of some of the
    > nonsense that went on there.
    >
    > I've met a lot of people on this list, or that used to be on this list,
    > anyway. I still have that pic on my hard drive where we had a gathering at
    > our house before a DT show in SF. That was a fun day.

    And I was "too cool" to show up because I was busy
    drinking beer with Dr. Mosh before the show.

    Dave Thomas, by the way, is fully responsible for
    turning me onto sushi, and introducing me to one
    of the greatest sushi restaurants on the planet:
    Tokie's in Foster City. Thanks Dave.

    Rick Audet
    San Francisco

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    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:18:01 -0800
    From: "Jennifer" <jennifer@jenniebear.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite!
    Message-ID: <000501c1ddd2$0faab180$0802a8c0@WorkGroup>

    Okay, how about another de-lurking old timer? <g> I think I joined the list
    around '94, though I did take a break at some point after way too much Michael
    C. cr*p. Ytse and the Jam stuff, yes, I like remembering that, but not stuff
    like misplaced religious dialogues! :P Anyway, speaking of blasts from the
    past, when we were at the S.F. show last month, I was wearing the classic "Let
    the Let Surround You" Ytsejam sweatshirt. We were waiting for the show to
    start and I overheard some guy talking about my sweatshirt - it ended up he
    was the one who designed and coordinated the whole thing at the time. He was
    pleased to hear that, yes, after all of these years, it still glows in the
    dark!

    BTW, Babs, I think you owe me e-mail! ;)

    Jen

    {~._.~} There's a great big beautiful
     ( Y ) tomorrow shining at the end
    ()~*~() of every day...
    (_)-(_) SHERMAN & SHERMAN

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    Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:30:19 -0500 (EST)
    From: Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Britney Spears naked...
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10204070028530.29715-100000@optical.mindstorm.com>

    Hey, look who submitted the fantasy at the very
    bottom of last week's episode of Savage Love. ;)

    http://www.sfweekly.com/savage/2002-03-27/index.html

    Rick Audet
    San Francisco

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    Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:43:19 -0500 (EST)
    From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Oldtimers
    Message-ID: <m16u6OW-000JluC@mail.interzone.com>

            Holy crap -- I don't read my email for a few days and come back to
    3 digests of 800+ lines?!? What year is this, 1995? It's very cool to see
    all of the posts from new and old-timers... This has definitely been *the*
    list for me -- it's a great community. While I came in around digest
    64 back in the spring of 1993, I have to say that I'm annoyed to see others
    claim even earlier digests! ;-) Do you expect to outlast me??
            OK, to mark the occasion I got off my butt and placed the past 6
    months worth of digests into the Ytsejam Digest Archive. You can find it
    at http://www.interzone.com/Music/Ytsejam -- It's a searchable archive
    so you can do all kinds of fun things, like find old Bafu posts. Or, find
    out how many times "irregardless" has been used (it was first used on the
    Ytsejam in 1997). 8^}
            BTW, I'm still missing the digests from #1 - #319, 4264-4834, and
    5053-5422 if any of you oldtimers happen to have them sitting around
    (preferably in mailbox format).

                            Steve
                            schew@interzone.com
                            aka invictus@interzone.com
                            aka schew@tis.com

    P.S. Resurrecting (this once) an old .rsig (requires a fixed width font):

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    Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:53:38 -0500 (EST) From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Old times... Message-ID: <m16u6YU-000JluC@mail.interzone.com>

    Hey, Speaking of "oldtimers" and stuff, isn't it hard to believe that the Ytsejam precedes the explosion of the World Wide Web? It wasn't really until around 1994 that the WWW really started to take off. Before that we pointed people to ftp or archie sites (at best) but mostly we traded tapes via USmail. The original Mosaic web browser was maybe a year or two old when the first Ytsejam digest came out and AOL was just moving onto Windows 3.11. These days it's so much easier and faster to point people to new music -- I love how the WWW and computers in general (anyone have a DVD burner yet?) have revolutionized how we access our music (not to mention Napster). We can log onto Bernd's web site in Germany and order Superior's CD without thinking twice. And the Ytsejam community has lived and evolved through it all. What do you think is coming next?

    Steve

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    Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:56:09 -0500 (EST) From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Rush single Message-ID: <m16u6av-000JluC@mail.interzone.com>

    I heard the new Rush single, "Victory", on the radio today. Kudos to WDVE in Pittsburgh for playing it. :-) I have to say that I liked it quite a bit. I'd heard the song via the web but it sounded much better through a real stereo -- some great rhythms and decent vocals. I think it will grow on me. Hopefully the rest of the CD will be as good or better.

    Steve

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    Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 01:55:52 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Rush single Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020407015526.00a28ec0@mail.comcast.net>

    Steve. I heard it too, thanks to 105.5 WDHA, and also 104.3 is playing it here in New York. I do like it, but man, I really miss the keyboards. At 01:02 AM 4/7/2002, you wrote:

    > I heard the new Rush single, "Victory", on the radio today. >Kudos to WDVE in Pittsburgh for playing it. :-) I have to say that >I liked it quite a bit. I'd heard the song via the web but it sounded >much better through a real stereo -- some great rhythms and decent vocals. >I think it will grow on me. Hopefully the rest of the CD will be as >good or better. > > Steve

    -- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email dfibraio@comcast.net aol instant messenger screenname: nhblive MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio@home.com Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f, coHost of No Holds Barred Radio: see http://www.nhbradio.com for details Band sites: Awake: http://www.geocities.com/visions692000: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com "If I die tomorrow, I'll be all right, because I believe that after we're gone, the spirit carries on."--Dream Theater, in dedication to those who lost their lives on 09/11/01 God Bless the U.S.A.

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    Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 11:30:56 +0000 From: Graham Borland <graham@moonbog.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: <20020407113056.6ea43c05.graham@moonbog.net>

    > Anyway, speaking of blasts from the past, when we were at the S.F. > show last month, I was wearing the classic "Let the Let Surround You" > Ytsejam sweatshirt. We were waiting for the show to start and I > overheard some guy talking about my sweatshirt - it ended up he was > the one who designed and coordinated the whole thing at the time. He > was pleased to hear that, yes, after all of these years, it still > glows in the dark!

    I wore mine to the special show in Barcelona in February. And it does indeed still glow in the dark. :-)

    -- Graham Borland graham@moonbog.net

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