YTSEJAM Digest 6098
Today's Topics:
1) Re: JP's Wild Stringdom
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
2) update and thanks for help so far
by Kevin Loechner <loechner@eecs.tulane.edu>
3) my meager 6 degrees review
by Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
4) Re: FED UP WITH POOR QUALITY!!!
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
5) Re: 6DOIT Comments (SPOILERS!) - LONG!
by Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk>
6) RE: FED UP WITH POOR QUALITY!!!
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
7) Re: FED UP WITH POOR QUALITY!!!
by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
8) Australian DT promoter petition
by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
9) Overture/Final Fantasy???
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
10) Classic Rock
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
11) Re: Australian DT promoter petition
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
12) Re: Australian DT promoter petition
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
13) 6DoiT
by WoodyTJ34@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 18:38:41 -0800
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: JP's Wild Stringdom
Message-ID: <B87DEE31.3146%schansen@cts.com>
In a mind-blowing e-mail sent on the extremely historic date of 1/30/02 6:09
PM, Neil Evans thusly spaketh:
> "Guitar World Presents John
> Petrucci's Wild Stringdom". It's a nice neat collection of his columns with
> some good information. It also comes with a CD which has him playing all
> the examples slowly.
I don't have the source to direct you to, but if my memory serves me
correctly, that is *not* JP who's doing the playing on the CD...
Scott
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:14:58 -0600 (CST)
From: Kevin Loechner <loechner@eecs.tulane.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: update and thanks for help so far
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1020130210424.29443A-100000@juno>
Just wanted to thank the Jam for their support so far, with all the
headaches I've been having with this CD. I'm ready to just get all this
stuff working, so I can just enjoy the CD.
Got it working in winamp, by using the right click, play audio cd method,
which isn't usually required for audio cds (usually i can just load the
directory into winamp). Got it working in linux, i guess only one of my
cdrom drives is configured for the linux cd player. One is an LG
32x4x4x Cd-RW drive, the other is a Liteon 16x DVD-ROM drive.
Next problem is seeing CD audio tracks. I'll try the right click on
the disc and see if session options come up. Then ripping, I'll try the
fix for EAC next, since it does show promise in ripping the discs. Once
again thanks for all the pointers, although I think it is ridiculous to
have to go through all these steps when I've had no problem with CDs in
the past (something is fishy here, I agree the lack of a Compact Disc
Digital Audio logo makes me somewhat suspicious). Even says it won't play
properly on all CD-ROM drives, which is completely ludicrous. I hope the
band (especially Mike) hears about what Elektra is doing to us.
Still gotta admit, this album is growing fast on me, even though I can't
enjoy it in its full capacity.
Thanks,
Kevin Loechner
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:07:33 -0800
From: Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: my meager 6 degrees review
Message-ID: <3C562005.AF2B1A52@home.com>
The cd is awesome! while my pals and i dont like all the songs, we do
like most. we'll say 8.5 out of 10! the tune we really cant shake is
"goodnight kiss"?! this song blew us away. Such a surprise to us
considering we usually enjoy the much heavier tracks. Very moving tune.
Cant say enough of the whole "overture" composition either. I think
prog should be looking for songs such as this to set a lot of new
standards. Rudess uses his patches like he should, i wish he'd use them
more often. the tune made us laugh out loud while listening to certain
parts. especially with all the unpredictable bells and whistles etc.
That is fun music. One jammer was dead on- it really sounds like a movie
score. Tons of magical moments. Not only that, but did anyone else think
there were many similarities to any fantasy based vid games?
Breathtaking keyboarding.
The voice fx used with Labrie are great! about time! There was some
great experimenting on this album. Not gonna get into all that "great
debate" voice over stuff here. say what u will, the tune is intense. i
think it was created to raise eyebrows and get people to remember it.
maybe even talk about it, and hey - looks like its working. strikingly
intense tune. Shorten it up, make it into a radio single and youre in
there like swimwear. it already has moments of Tool, Godsmack and a lot
of whatever else is getting played on the air these days. Ofcourse most
of us could care less if they get airplay or not. Then again...the
controversial lyrics may be too intelligent for many out there.
as usual lots of the tunes may not be appreciated the first time
around, but then play em now and then, and u may be hooked. happened to
me with the very last song - "losing time" DT always closes there albums
out nothing short of epic. This song sounds very BIG. Great album -
great band etc etc etc. you already know that.
one more thing - goin back a bit - The guitar solo in "Lines in the
sand"...you're right! live or studio, that was a beautiful peice of
work!!
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:18:49 -0800
From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
To: "Erik 'StarBlazer' Stearns" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: FED UP WITH POOR QUALITY!!!
Message-ID: <6145081603.20020130201849@ivorygate.com>
Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 4:09:32 PM, Erik wrote:
ESS> Now the real kicker here is that I replaced "Scenes from NY" twice
ESS> with no real luck. The end of "Silent Man" is still fucked to a certain
ESS> degree. Now "Blind Faith" is doing the same thing to me on "6
ESS> Degrees." Am I the only one noticing this or is there really some
ESS> manufacturing bullshit going on here.
hmmm... I'd start to suspect your CD player. Either your CD
player if "off" a bit, doesn't have adequate error correction, or
something else...
I knew a friend who had a 5 disc player that was scratching the
CDs in the same spot (a small circle near the middle of the disc)
that would cause them to mess up eventually...
-- ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." < www.ivorygate.com > Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream < www.fateswarning.info > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NP: Dream Theater - "Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (IV. The Test That Stumped Them All)" (from the album: Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (Disc 2))------------------------------
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:59:48 +0000 From: Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: 6DOIT Comments (SPOILERS!) - LONG! Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020131094837.023a6008@mail-server-1.cee.hw.ac.uk>
>From: "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com> >[Lyrics] >The Great Debate (JP) - I am disappointed with the topic, the treatment, and >the largely awful samples in this song. [...] >- The emotional plea by a woman who says if stem cell research can help her >son, she's for it. Emotional pleas have no place in a moral discussion.
But silly arguments are still being produced in public debates; so it's just as authentic as the rest. I don't think they (DT) picked the best arguments available, rather just a statistically random chunk of arguments, some for, some against, some just silly. (I find myself provoked by some of the silliest)
Anyway, I really like this kind of selection, becasue I think it perfectly describes a debate in the media.
ps. great review! That was one really interesting read!
< flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://geheb.com/flail - ICQ: 3253879 >
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 06:55:17 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: FED UP WITH POOR QUALITY!!! Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A733D77@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
None of my DT (or any other) CDs skip or are scratched. Sounds like a CDPlayer issue. Sorry you are having probs, but it's not widespread.
JM
> -----Original Message----- > From: Erik 'StarBlazer' Stearns [SMTP:stearns@realtime.net] > > Hi guys, > Sorry to be such a pisser on the parade, but this has happened to me > at least twice now. Both incidents occurred with "Scenes from NY" and > "6 Degrees". It seems that I can't get a decently pressed CD at all. I > put it in, thinking it's okay, usually into my portable first cause I > love to walk and listen to tunes. Then in certain spots, I get this > cutting out like it can't read it. I take it out, no apparent scratches > or anything that I can see. It's as if the coding is fucked up. So I > try it in other players and it's just as bad, if not worse!!!!!! > > >
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 05:42:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: FED UP WITH POOR QUALITY!!! Message-ID: <20020131134210.70593.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com>
Sucks to be you dude...
- Ilia.
--- Erik 'StarBlazer' Stearns <stearns@realtime.net> wrote: > Hi guys, > > Sorry to be such a pisser on the parade, but this has happened to > me > at least twice now. Both incidents occurred with "Scenes from NY" > and > "6 Degrees". It seems that I can't get a decently pressed CD at all. > I > put it in, thinking it's okay, usually into my portable first cause I > love to walk and listen to tunes. Then in certain spots, I get this > cutting out like it can't read it. I take it out, no apparent > scratches > or anything that I can see. It's as if the coding is fucked up. So > I > try it in other players and it's just as bad, if not worse!!!!!! > > Now the real kicker here is that I replaced "Scenes from NY" > twice > with no real luck. The end of "Silent Man" is still fucked to a > certain > degree. Now "Blind Faith" is doing the same thing to me on "6 > Degrees." Am I the only one noticing this or is there really some > manufacturing bullshit going on here. > > This is a real big fucking inconvenience to me especially when I > love the band so much. > > I'd really appreciate some answers and solutions here. > > Erik. > > > -- > An Open mind is the thriving of a society while > the closed mind is the downfall of the same. For > in Saroks's words, "The spear in the other's heart > is the spear in your own. You are he." > > -- From the "Freedom" Speech to Larion's Congress > > Erik Stearns > StarBlazer Enterprises Inc. > Synergy Research Consortium > (512)834-9480 > Fax: (512) 834-9547 > eFax: (707) 924-0319 > mailto:stearns@bga.com > mailto:stearns@realtime.net > mailto:starblazer@geocities.com > http://www.starblazer.com > http://www.synergy-research.com > http://www.realtime.net/~stearns > http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1740 > >
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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:24:14 +1100 From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Australian DT promoter petition Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMOEGNCAAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
I don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but for any Aussies that haven't seen this yet, go to:
and sign the online petition. Hopefully we can convince a promoter to get DT down here, and we can rock this joint! :P
Cheers,
Niall
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:53:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Overture/Final Fantasy??? Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0201311449110.21420-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Dyne wrote:
> Not only that, but did anyone else think there were many similarities to > any fantasy based vid games? Breathtaking keyboarding.
Actually, yes. I know quite a few people who found "Overture" to be very strangely reminiscent of the theme music from everyone's favorite RPG-based video game, Final Fantasy. This is deffinetly not a bad thing. :) -eric
-- "The least important things in life seem to get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough."
-me
drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org IM screename - Ryften13 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
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Date: 31 Jan 2002 15:00:15 +0000 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, Thoughts <thoughts2@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Classic Rock Message-ID: <86zo2uva4g.fsf@daffy.picsel.com>
The new Classic Rock is in the shops now. It includes a lengthy review of 6DOiT (giving it a very favourable 4 out of 5) and an interview/feature with Mike Portnoy.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 04:12:12 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> To: Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Australian DT promoter petition Message-ID: <17620041.20020201041212@optushome.com.au>
NC> I don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but for any Aussies that haven't NC> seen this yet, go to:
NC> and sign the online petition. Hopefully we can convince a promoter to get DT NC> down here, and we can rock this joint! :P
Unless there is a new promoter on the scene it's a waste of time. We did the same thing a couple years back and no interest, they even spelt DT's name wrong when they replied to the petition :(
-- Best regards, Graham mailto:gjboyle@optushome.com.au
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Date: 31 Jan 2002 18:33:47 +0000 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Australian DT promoter petition Message-ID: <86lmee9xpw.fsf@daffy.picsel.com>
Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> writes:
> Unless there is a new promoter on the scene it's a waste of time. > We did the same thing a couple years back and no interest, they even > spelt DT's name wrong when they replied to the petition :(
If you read what it says on the site, it hints that they're in discussions with the band's UK promoters.
Sign the petition anyway; it can't do any harm.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:56:20 EST From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 6DoiT Message-ID: <87.16d6b1e4.298b41b4@aol.com>
The magazine "Illinois Entertainer" has a Rolling Stone music store ad featuring 6DoiT. It is paired with Britney Spears as the two highlighted albums to purchase this week. And they are selling it for $19.99. Too bad I got mine for $24. Pretty good for a "no name band." This album really grows on ya. I like it better after my 10th listen. The "scratches" on Glass Prison are very interesting. Immediatly after them is an interesting tempo change. Again the song writting is amazing. Thanks to all for not bitching this time around with set list & spoilers. Very mature of the group. I also like Mike's Lead Drummer comment. Very clever. See ya, Todd
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