YTSEJAM Digest 6253
Today's Topics:
1) Soilwork Comments
by kurt.hampton@juno.com
2) KX, NIghtwish, Engine
by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
3) Re: Best of 2002 (so far)
by Metzger Mark <Mark.Metzger@comverse.com>
4) Re: King's X, which album?
by "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net>
5) Re: Best of 02 so far
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
6) Re: King's X, which album?
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
7) Re: Best of 02 so far
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
8) Re: Best of 2002 (so far)
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:38:36 GMT
From: kurt.hampton@juno.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Soilwork Comments
Message-ID: <20020711.113908.28257.173801@wm4.nyc.untd.com>
Kinda weird, this list is the only place I have ever seen negative comments on NBC. Everyone loves it ;) I think Soilwork finally has the ability to write good songs with catchy hooks, and not just death metal that sounds like every other band out of Gothenburg. Predators Portrait is just as good IMO. \m/
Kurt
I MUST ORDER SUPERIOR, JESUS THOSE SOUND CLIPS ARE GOOD.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:47:33 -0700
From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: KX, NIghtwish, Engine
Message-ID: <001f01c228f2$45f25020$7244e40c@attbi.com>
>Subject: King's X, which album?
>If you were to suggest one King's X album to a fan going to see them
Aug.
>31, which one would you suggest20
Best of, Gretchen, Dogman or Ear Candy, definitely NOT the new one...
They are great live, too, so don't worry about it...
>From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
>1. Nightwish - Century Child
When did this come out and where do I get it?
Did they ever come out with a NTSC region 1/0 DVD?
>7. Engine Superholic
>No comment :)
None here either. Well, ok.
Not as good as the first one or any Fates material.
IMO, sorry Doc. :)
Trevor
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:46:46 -0400
From: Metzger Mark <Mark.Metzger@comverse.com>
To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Best of 2002 (so far)
Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D34076B2D90@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
3. DT 6DOIT
>> 1st is brilliant, 2nd I really think is close to their
>> worst material ever.
So well put. The Emperor has no clothes. Saw CD2 live on the last tour and
it still left me unimpressed (seeing stuff live usually helps out a lot for
me for reasons I cannot explain). I know that the side projects are
probably what keeps these guys sane nowadays BUT it has to dilute all of the
end products. Although few may admit it publicly, are there others like me
who listen more to Mulymuzziler Two more than CD2 of 6DOIT ????
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
5. Vanden Plas Beyond Daylight
>> One big yawn for me, they've made the same album
>> again and are sounding generic and stale.
>> This is the band that has lost their balls I think.
Uuuuuggggghhhhh .... different opinions are healthy but I have loved VDP
ever since the beginning. To me this is far and wide better than anything
that they have ever done (more mature, still intense and oddly more
accessible all at the same time). Charlie, feel free to admit that you are
wrong at any time ... :)
Marky Mark, who YEARNS for the new SX .......
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:06:43 +0200
From: "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: King's X, which album?
Message-ID: <003b01c228f4$f33bf7c0$0ad6fea9@PIII1GHZ>
Chris wrote:
If you were to suggest one King's X album to a fan going to see them Aug.
31, which one would you suggest? I just paid a high Canadian price for
their latest, and while I can't say there's necessarily anything wrong with
it, it didn't excite me at all either! I was hoping to have discovered
another great band after hearing so many positive things about them over
the years ... Is their latest release just a sleeper?
Chris, underwhelmed and disappointed
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Chris,
allow them and they'll suck you in like there's no tomorrow.
I agree, their latest album wouldn't be my first choice to introduce
KX to someone either. Go grab Dogman (their heaviest and genuinely
angry album - they were pissed at their label) or Tapehead and
I'm sure they'll blow your socks off. And while you'r at it, get their
Greatest Hits, not a bad collection of their best songs at all.
Welcome to the groove machine!
Matej
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:47:16 -0500
From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Best of 02 so far
Message-ID: <3D2DB694.A59474BC@earthlink.net>
> > 2. Soilwork Natural Born Choas
> > One of the year's BIG disappointment's, too lightweight, smoochy and
> > not enough balls.
>
> This is kinda true, if you compare it to their other stuff, but I think
> the new stuff does have it's high-points. Less technical, more straightforward
> and trying to be too melodic. I still prefer Steelbath Suicide
Damn! I pick up a Soilwork CD (this one) last week after hearing lots of
good things about them. I really like it. Now I hear it's a
disappointment? I can't wait to hear the others. I picked out Natural
Born Chaos over the other two because it says "Produced by Devin
Townsend" on the back, btw.
Thanks,
Mark Peters
epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:15:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: King's X, which album?
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0207111913240.23188-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Zalozba Izolit wrote:
> Welcome to the groove machine!
> Matej
holy shit, Matej!!! there's a name i haven't seen grace any jams in quite
sometime!! good to see you're still out there bud. nice salutation, by
the way. peace.
-eric
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:29:50 -0700
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Best of 02 so far
Message-ID: <200207112229.g6BMToT22787@zero.corp.publichost.com>
> > 2. Soilwork Natural Born Choas
> > One of the year's BIG disappointment's, too lightweight, smoochy and
> > not enough balls.
>
> This is kinda true, if you compare it to their other stuff, but I think
> the new stuff does have it's high-points. Less technical, more straightforward
> and trying to be too melodic. I still prefer Steelbath Suicide
> Damn! I pick up a Soilwork CD (this one) last week after hearing lots of
> good things about them. I really like it. Now I hear it's a
> disappointment? I can't wait to hear the others. I picked out Natural
> Born Chaos over the other two because it says "Produced by Devin
> Townsend" on the back, btw.
Well, don't get me wrong, I'm probably not as big a metal snobhead
as Gaz is but I do think the album is attempting to be commercially much more
accessible (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). But if yer yearning for the
more powerful and technical stuff, you'll have to look on the older albums.
That said, I like Natural Born Chaos... especially songs like As We Speak,
The Bringer, Flameout.
Listen to songs like Skin After Skin, My Need, Grand Failure Anthem, I think those
songs are really what Soilwork did best. There's really nothing like those songs
on NBC.
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:32:46 -0700
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Best of 2002 (so far)
Message-ID: <200207112232.g6BMWkc23054@zero.corp.publichost.com>
> 5. Vanden Plas Beyond Daylight
>
> >> One big yawn for me, they've made the same album
> >> again and are sounding generic and stale.
>
> >> This is the band that has lost their balls I think.
>
> Uuuuuggggghhhhh .... different opinions are healthy but I have loved VDP
> ever since the beginning. To me this is far and wide better than anything
> that they have ever done (more mature, still intense and oddly more
> accessible all at the same time). Charlie, feel free to admit that you are
> wrong at any time ... :)
>
> Marky Mark, who YEARNS for the new SX .......
I dunno Mark, take any song from Beyond Daylight and play it next to something
like Inside Of Your Head or You Fly and you'll notice the difference.
-The Doc
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