YTSEJAM Digest 6259
Today's Topics:
1) RE: Satriani
by "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
2) Re: Avantasia lineup
by "Phil Carter" <phil@usefulware.com>
3) Re: Avantasia lineup
by Jax <jax@ytseradio.com>
4) LSFNY @ HMV for only $13.99 CDN
by Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@cout.dhs.org>
5) RE: Avantasia lineup
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
6) short review of Mcgill-Manring-Stevens (some DT content)
by "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
7) Re[2]: Avantasia lineup
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
8) Re: Over the Rhine
by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
9) RE: Over the Rhine
by "Daniel J. Temmesfeld" <dtemm@yahoo.com>
10) Hey Mike Shetzer
by "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com>
11) Re: Satriani
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
12) RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named....
by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
13) Re: Satriani
by "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com>
14) Re: Satriani
by "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.net>
15) Gordian Knot
by "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
16) RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named....
by "Sakkos Nikolaos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
17) RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named....
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
18) Re: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named....
by "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" <calfaro@yunque.net>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:26:22 -0500
From: "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Satriani
Message-ID: <005601c22dae$b0c81fe0$4164a8c0@klindt.org>
I'm going to be catching the Milwaukee show. I'm pretty stoked to see
Mr. Satriani in concert. I've seen DT six or seven times, so that's a
little less exciting.
Anyone else going to the Milwaukee show? Al?
tk
-----Original Message-----
From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of
Sebastian Keil
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:07 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Satriani
the new satch album is different why?
its like a blend of the extremist and the straighter stuff on the
self-titled album. very catchy melodies, three listens will do to sing
along. he uses 7string at times. I saw the show two nights ago, and
wasn't too keen on Matt Bissonette, but apart from that it was cool, and
the new songs were really cool live. Try it out, it's not as fancy as
crystal planet. sab
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:39:02 -0400
From: "Phil Carter" <phil@usefulware.com>
To: Scenes From a Ytse <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Avantasia lineup
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020717123509.00a079b0@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Alexis remarked:
>Avantasia - This is a power metal supergroup, with quite a few singers
>(including probably my favorite singer of all time Michael Kiske)
Michael Kiske doesn't appear on the first Avantasia disc, unless you know
something I don't. Are you talking about the second to-be-released one? I
haven't yet seen a lineup for that.
Tobias Sammet does sound a lot like Kiske in some of his finer moments,
though. P'raps that's what you're thinking of.
cheers,
Phil
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:04:32 -0500
From: Jax <jax@ytseradio.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Avantasia lineup
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020717120319.00a3bb50@mail.ytseradio.com>
At 11:53 AM 7/17/02, Phil wrote:
>Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
>
>Alexis remarked:
> >Avantasia - This is a power metal supergroup, with quite a few singers
> >(including probably my favorite singer of all time Michael Kiske)
>
>Michael Kiske doesn't appear on the first Avantasia disc, unless you know
>something I don't. Are you talking about the second to-be-released one? I
>haven't yet seen a lineup for that.
Kiske appears on the first cd as "Ernie", I'm told (I don't know his voice
well enough to be sure myself, but have been assured by more than one
person that "Ernie" is Kiske).
Jax :)
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:05:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@cout.dhs.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: LSFNY @ HMV for only $13.99 CDN
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207171304460.32121-100000@hanoi.nortaac.com>
I just bought a copy of LSFNY at www.hmv.com for about nine bucks
American, and it came out to about thirteen bucks total, including
shipping. Not bad for a triple-disc album, eh?
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andrew@cout.dhs.org
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If it's raining, a cute thing to tell a child is
"God is crying." If they ask why, another cute
thing to say is, "Probably something you did."
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:10:04 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Avantasia lineup
Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A01444277@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
No, Michael Kiske definitely sings on Avantasia.
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Carter [mailto:phil@usefulware.com]
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Alexis remarked:
>Avantasia - This is a power metal supergroup, with quite a few singers
>(including probably my favorite singer of all time Michael Kiske)
Michael Kiske doesn't appear on the first Avantasia disc, unless you know
something I don't. Are you talking about the second to-be-released one? I
haven't yet seen a lineup for that.
Tobias Sammet does sound a lot like Kiske in some of his finer moments,
though. P'raps that's what you're thinking of.
cheers,
Phil
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:36:23 -0400
From: "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: short review of Mcgill-Manring-Stevens (some DT content)
Message-ID: <757DAAB5CD7E934CBF86345BF0CD5DF755AAB5@mailserver.vivienda.local>
Hey! The other day I finally got the cd Addition by Substraction by the trio made up of Scott McGill on guitars, Michael Manring on bass and Vic Stevens on drums, with special guest Jordan Rudess on keys on 3 songs, if I remember correctly. The music could be labeled as fusion, with a sound quite similar to Attention Deficit (probably my favorite fusion band). The cd is very good, with excellent bass solos and excellent drumming. The guitar playing is very good as well, but I have to say that I don't like McGill's soloing style that much. IMO, he needs to add more melody into his solos, since it seems like most of them are just flurries of dissonant notes. It also seems like he overdoes the dissonance aspect of the notes he plays. He should get together with Scott Henderson in order to learn more about beautiful soloing in the fusion genre. Jordan's interventions are very good, with solos using a variety of sounds, including piano. Recommended.
Alexis
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 05:22:07 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: Phil Carter <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Avantasia lineup
Message-ID: <311407489.20040718052207@optushome.com.au>
PC> Michael Kiske doesn't appear on the first Avantasia disc, unless you know
PC> something I don't. Are you talking about the second to-be-released one? I
PC> haven't yet seen a lineup for that.
He does and his voice is very easy to tell.
He sings on quite a few songs under the guise of 'Ernie'.
He didn't want his proper name mentioned because of his dislike for
metal these days.
PC> Tobias Sammet does sound a lot like Kiske in some of his finer moments,
PC> though. P'raps that's what you're thinking of.
Nope take a closer listen, in the booklet it says where he is singing
:)
-- Best regards, Graham mailto:gjboyle@optushome.com.au------------------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Over the Rhine Message-ID: <m17Uvdy-000JltC@mail.interzone.com>
Steve wrote: > Another fantastic female singer is Rose Polenzani. She has a >somewhat dry vocal style with an amazing voice. The music uses a lot >of acoustic guitar and builds a great atmosphere. The lyrics are very >good with a poetic style. I'd recommend starting with her self-titled >CD which is superb. I think you can only find her stuff at her web site >(www.rosepolenzani.com). There are samples there (check out "Fell" or >"Whatever Remains"). I happened to see her live at the Rosebud in >Pittsburgh when she opened for another band and was hooked. >
Dan wrote: >a great female-fronted band... > >Over the Rhine (neo-alternative acoustic-folk pop) > >http://www.overtherhine.com/ > >great band! > A funny coincidence -- the band that I referred to above that Rose Polenzani opened for was Over the Rhine. I liked them but I have to say that I enjoyed Rose's music more.
Steve
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:34:07 -0400 From: "Daniel J. Temmesfeld" <dtemm@yahoo.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Over the Rhine Message-ID: <000501c22dd9$b06d4720$8f6f5acf@temmesfeld>
Steve Chew wrote: >>a great female-fronted band... >> >>Over the Rhine (neo-alternative acoustic-folk pop) >> >>http://www.overtherhine.com/ > >A funny coincidence -- the band that I referred to above >that Rose Polenzani opened for was Over the Rhine. I >liked them but I have to say that I enjoyed Rose's music >more.
i have one of Rose's album, plus saw her twice... she didn't do much for me... i dig Over the Rhine a *whole* lot more...
but that's just IMO...
Dan
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:30:48 -0400 From: "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Hey Mike Shetzer Message-ID: <3D362853.47139F3E@mindspring.com>
I have my slight eBay integrity to maintain, and successfully it seems! Geez, word gets out, eh? LOL! Maybe I know someone on the inside or somethin'...
- Your Friendly Neighborhood Allroundniceguy Scott Mosher - The VIRTUALITY CD http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:50:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Satriani Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0207180443380.29121-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
hmmmm, interesting description. haven't heard the album myself as of yet, but i do have EVERY intention of getting it (have them all, save for "Flying In A Blue Dream"). his self titled was deffinetly different from his other stuff. it was more rough, gritty, bluesy, & stripped down bare-bones than his other ones. "Crystal Planet" however, happens to be one of my absolute favorites, right along with "The Extremist" & "Surfing With The Alien" (no particular order). be interesting to hear what this new one is really all about. guess i'll know soon enough.
-eric
P.S.- by the way, any Pittsburgh jammers going to the Sept.7th show?? any other jammers for that matter?? Kez, what about you bro? maybe we'll have better luck finding jammers than we did at the D.C. show!! drop a line, guys (& gals).
On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Sebastian Keil wrote:
> the new satch album is different why? > its like a blend of the extremist and the straighter stuff on the self-titled album. very catchy melodies, three listens will do to sing along. he uses 7string at times. I saw the show two nights ago, and wasn't too keen on Matt Bissonette, but apart from that it was cool, and the new songs were really cool live. Try it out, it's not as fancy as crystal planet. > sab >
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:55:58 +1000 From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMGEBLCGAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
> ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:43:48 +0000 (UTC) > From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... > Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0207171240100.1292-100000@sdf.lonestar.org> > > On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Niall Connaughton wrote: > > > <warning: Geek humour> > > > > OSI? Oh no! You mean there will be 7 instruments, each more > abstract than > > the last, to form a group that everyone loves to talk about, but never > > listen to? > > > > Perhaps the layered model could be a new way for bands to write music! > > > > .......yikes........ > > *proceeds to go and set fire to all MCSE, Networking, and Telecom books, > manuals, & certifications for fear of the same thing happening to me* > > frightened, > eric
Gee thanks!
Niall
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:04:14 -0400 From: "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Satriani Message-ID: <09fa01c22e4a$da640200$6401a8c0@amd1>
> hmmmm, interesting description. haven't heard the album myself as of yet, > but i do have EVERY intention of getting it (have them all, save for > "Flying In A Blue Dream").
Wow, you don't have FIABD? I consider that Satch's BEST CD. You may want to correct that ASAP.
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:38:02 -0400 From: "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Satriani Message-ID: <001c01c22e4f$933c4590$6401a8c0@amd14>
> -eric > > P.S.- by the way, any Pittsburgh jammers going to the Sept.7th show?? any > other jammers for that matter?? Kez, what about you bro? maybe we'll > have better luck finding jammers than we did at the D.C. show!! drop a > line, guys (& gals).
If you're referring to the Pier 6 show in Baltimore, I will most certainly be there. Being on a Saturday, we really should have some sort of get together. I know I-Man will also be there, as well as a few other locals. Let's hook up somehow.
Kez
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:26:31 -0400 From: "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Gordian Knot Message-ID: <757DAAB5CD7E934CBF86345BF0CD5DF755AAB6@mailserver.vivienda.local>
Does anybody know when the new album by Gordian Knot will be released? The clips sounded good as hell, so I'm pretty anxious to know when this baby will be delivered :-)
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:12:20 +0300 From: "Sakkos Nikolaos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... Message-ID: <MBBBKHLJFJPJBAMJHLCECEOACAAA.el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
Isn't anyone just a little bit disappointed that yet another group is gonna sound "a bit tool-ish" ? I was expecting something different from a line-up like that . As great as Tool is , it seems that everything comes down to tool-tool-tool lately . Oh excuse me . Tool - ish .
Later
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:20:38 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A014443C4@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
Disappointed? No, not really. Tool had some good chops in their time. The new group should have some great stuff.
-----Original Message----- From: Sakkos Nikolaos [mailto:el00144@mail.ntua.gr]
Isn't anyone just a little bit disappointed that yet another group is gonna sound "a bit tool-ish" ? I was expecting something different from a line-up like that . As great as Tool is , it seems that everything comes down to tool-tool-tool lately . Oh excuse me . Tool - ish .
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:20:08 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... Message-ID: <004501c22e7f$5e0c1690$024c48d8@carlosbook>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:34 AM Subject: RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named....
> Disappointed? No, not really. Tool had some good chops in their time. The > new group should have some great stuff. > >
"in their time" ? I think tool is their "time" right now! Lateralus IMO is genius work... of course its my opinion, but the way you expressed it made it sound like tools chops are a thing of the past :) which (imo of course) they seem to be getting even better with time...
and to the original poster : what else has been labeled as tool-like? 1 song on 6doit? wow! would you rather the project was described as sounding LTE like or DT like or "prog" like? i usually hate it when a band describes an upcoming project naming another band , it always ends up creating misconceptions about how the music is going to be like...
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