YTSEJAM Digest 6605
Today's Topics:
1) Re: ear ringing
by "Dave Leon" <dleon@cfl.rr.com>
2) Orgasm of the century
by cheryl <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
3) DT/QR shows - busy?
by Graham Borland <graham@moonbog.net>
4) Re: Orgasm of the century
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
5) Re: DT/QR shows - busy?
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
6) RE: DT/QR shows - busy?
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
7) Subject: ear ringing and loud concerts
by James <imroadie@yahoo.com>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:35:25 -0400
From: "Dave Leon" <dleon@cfl.rr.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: ear ringing
Message-ID: <008301c3523c$42070ea0$d7e45f18@Computress>
>
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:17:25 -0700
> From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Subject: Re: ear ringing
> Message-ID: <20030724101725.A24176@zero.corp.publichost.com>
> > >
> > > Why do the sound engineers insist upon blasting the
> > > music to such level that
> > > earplugs are required? > >
> >
> Well, all truth be told, most sound engineers are deaf.
>
> A lot of them have been in the industry so long they
> themselves can't hear to begin with.
>
> -The Doc
I always assumed it was a macho thing. ACDC always wanted to be "the
loudest" band in the world.
I also think there is a belief that "the louder it is, the better it
sounds,"
-Dave
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 00:36:02 -0700
From: cheryl <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Orgasm of the century
Message-ID: <3F20DDE2.9080308@earthlink.net>
Dream Theater + Queensryche = Comfortably Numb
Oh my FUCKING god....life can now cease to exist.
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Date: 25 Jul 2003 12:49:55 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@moonbog.net>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT/QR shows - busy?
Message-ID: <m3k7a66d24.fsf@fry.local>
What size of venues and crowds have DT and QR been playing to on this
tour?
-- Graham Borland graham@moonbog.net------------------------------
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:43:25 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Orgasm of the century Message-ID: <004101c352c3$7c58a370$9b00a8c0@mike>
that good huh?
----- Original Message ----- From: "cheryl" <cherylcat@earthlink.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 3:45 AM Subject: Orgasm of the century
> Dream Theater + Queensryche = Comfortably Numb > > Oh my FUCKING god....life can now cease to exist. > >
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:45:26 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT/QR shows - busy? Message-ID: <005901c352c3$c468f8e0$9b00a8c0@mike>
The DT/QR/FW opening with I Mother Earth show I saw on July 5th in Montreal was in an old hockey arena and held about 8000 people, plus the crowd on the floor.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Borland" <graham@moonbog.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:08 AM Subject: DT/QR shows - busy?
> > What size of venues and crowds have DT and QR been playing to on this > tour? > > -- > Graham Borland > graham@moonbog.net >
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:46:46 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> Subject: RE: DT/QR shows - busy? Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC2438014DA7AF@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
Wow... I bet that was slippery as shit !!! lol
jm
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Shetzer [mailto:echo26@videotron.ca]
The DT/QR/FW opening with I Mother Earth show I saw on July 5th in Montreal was in an old hockey arena and held about 8000 people, plus the crowd on the floor.
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:51:01 -0700 (PDT) From: James <imroadie@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Subject: ear ringing and loud concerts Message-ID: <20030725185101.79882.qmail@web40101.mail.yahoo.com>
As an amateur sound man I thought I would weigh in on this subject...
Sometimes the main reason that a concert is loud is the size of the venue. You have to get the sound to the "nosebleed" cheap seats, but in doing so the people under the stacks sometimes get blasted.
If you want to see how thingsa really sound, stand near the FOH(Front Of House, the sounboard) position. If its loud, shrill, or distorted there, then the soundman is either losing his high end hearing and doesnt realize how it sounds, or, they just arent good at their job.
Also, I have seen people comment that the sound at a concert wasnt very good right in front of the stage. Well, its not going to be unless the venue or PA company has "fill" speakers aimed at the front of the stage. In most cases, if you are right in front of the stage, the sound is blowing past you, and all you are hearing is stage volume, not the "mix".
After attending the Styx/REO/Journey concert last Sunday in Ft. Wayne, IN I had a slight "buzz" in my ears for a couple days. I usually know better, I keep ear plugs in my truck "just in case", and stupidly left them behind.
I urge anyone that goes to a loud concert on a regular basis to wear earplugs...and for God's sake, if you take young children, PLEASE make them wear ear plugs! Young ears are very easily damaged by loud sound.
Sorry for the long post.....
James aka Roadie
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